View Full Version : A blacksmith's near the Lyceum


MadSnail
19-06-2007, 11:39
This is going back a bit.
Around 1950 there was a fairly steep cobblestone street leading down from Arundel St, near the Lyceum to Flat St. Near the top was a smithy and about half way down on the other side was a shop where you could get slices of bread and jam for a penny each.
On my way home from the Art School I used to stop to watch those great shire horses being shod, and then I'd buy a jam sandwich to eat on the way to the tram.
Anybody old enough to remember this?
What was the name of that street?

alankearn
19-06-2007, 11:43
This is going back a bit.
Around 1950 there was a fairly steep cobblestone street leading down from Arundel St, near the Lyceum to Flat St. Near the top was a smithy and about half way down on the other side was a shop where you could get slices of bread and jam for a penny each.
On my way home from the Art School I used to stop to watch those great shire horses being shod, and then I'd buy a jam sandwich to eat on the way to the tram.
Anybody old enough to remember this?
What was the name of that street?

Could it have been Milk Street ? And i'm not telling you how old I am.

lazyherbert
19-06-2007, 11:53
i think you are right it was Milk St,& I am 69.Iremember the Adelphi or Arundel pub at the top of the street also.

alankearn
19-06-2007, 16:13
i think you are right it was Milk St,& I am 69.Iremember the Adelphi or Arundel pub at the top of the street also.


Walking up and turning right at the top of Milk St. I seem to remember a pub just round or possibly on the corner. Or is my memory playing tricks with me.

MadSnail
19-06-2007, 23:10
First of all, I'm amazed that I could forget a name so memorable as Milk Street. And when two of you named it, I thought it must be so.
But now I've seen a bit of info that tell me it was Sycamore Street and that rings loud bells.
I was a bit young to take much notice of pubs, but the Wikipedia article on Sheffield pubs tells me this:
The Adelphi Hotel was on the corner of Sycamore and Arundel and that pub was where both the Yorkshire Cricket Club and the Sheffield Wednesday Cricket Club were founded (1863 and 1867 respectively).
How about that !
The thing is, can anyone remember the smithy?
And, if it was Sycamore Street, where was Milk Street?

lazyherbert
20-06-2007, 13:46
First of all, I'm amazed that I could forget a name so memorable as Milk Street. And when two of you named it, I thought it must be so.
But now I've seen a bit of info that tell me it was Sycamore Street and that rings loud bells.
I was a bit young to take much notice of pubs, but the Wikipedia article on Sheffield pubs tells me this:
The Adelphi Hotel was on the corner of Sycamore and Arundel and that pub was where both the Yorkshire Cricket Club and the Sheffield Wednesday Cricket Club were founded (1863 and 1867 respectively).
How about that !
The thing is, can anyone remember the smithy?
And, if it was Sycamore Street, where was Milk Street?

I have a 1969 Sheffield street guide which says Sycamore St. ran from 13 Tudor Way Sheffield 1.Tudor Way ran from 73 Norfolk St. to Surrey St. There is no mention of Milk St.

alankearn
20-06-2007, 15:45
I have a 1969 Sheffield street guide which says Sycamore St. ran from 13 Tudor Way Sheffield 1.Tudor Way ran from 73 Norfolk St. to Surrey St. There is no mention of Milk St.

I think Milk Street came out on Flat Street somewhere near the back of the Odeon cinema and Pond Hill
As I remember there was a road from Norfolk St. to the Lyceum that ran passed the top of Milk St. on to just pass the side of the Lyceum and then was a dead end (cul de sac?), could this be Sycamore street. (I certainy remember the name).

MadSnail
20-06-2007, 16:09
Hang on, Herb,
It was you that agreed on Milk Street. Where did you and alankearn get that memory from?
Your description Of Tudor Way is a bit puzzling because Norfolk Street is at right angles to Surrey Street. I think there was a Tudor Street which ran from Surrey Street alongside the Graves Art Gallery and the Lyceum and ended in Arundel St opposite the top of Sycamore Street. I can't place Tudor Way.
Looking at a modern map, I see all there is now is a Tudor Square.
I'm coming over next month and I'm going to stand on the Lyceum corner and try to recapture the picture.

hazel
21-06-2007, 07:41
I remember the blacksmiths on Sycamore St.

I used to come that way home from school in the 40s. I can remember seeing the sparks flying from the anvil. We used to see the buffer ladies too near the lyceum with cardboard round their legs. We either went down the 100 steps to Pond St or used Sycamore St. Sycamore St had a sweetshop at a the bottom which very occasionally had sweets to sell. Thats if we had any money.
hazel

hazel
21-06-2007, 07:46
Milk St went off the bottom of Sycamore St witch led into Norfolk St just across from Change Alley. Change Alley led into High St where Walshs was a pile of rubble. On Milk St was the Postmans Club.
hazel

MadSnail
21-06-2007, 08:35
Good One, Hazel,
I think you're exactly right, and I'm glad someone else can remember the blacksmith's.
Which school did you go to?
I went to the College of Arts and Crafts on Arundel Street,
opposite the bottom of Surrey Street. When I started there I lived in Attercliffe, so I used to walk down Sycamore Street to catch a tram in Fitzallan Square.
Before I left we'd moved to Middlewood, but I would still go down Sycamore and then cut through Milk Street and Change Alley to go down Snig hill to the Bridge street bus station.

alankearn
21-06-2007, 09:11
Milk St went off the bottom of Sycamore St witch led into Norfolk St just across from Change Alley. Change Alley led into High St where Walshs was a pile of rubble. On Milk St was the Postmans Club.
hazel

I wish I had a memory as good as yours.

hazel
21-06-2007, 10:47
My memory comes and goes which is quite frustrating at times.
But I travelled that route for years and wandered among the bombed buidings.
I went from Arbourthorne Rd to St Vincents School on Solly St and later on to Notre Dame. So knew all the streets in between as we varied the journey.

Pond St, Pond's Hill, ( at the top of Pond Hill was a newspaper stand that sold Captain Marvel comics ) Sycamore St, Milk St, Change Alley, across the rd to Cockaynes ( think there was a policeman to help cross the rd ), round the back of the Telegraph and Star, St Pauls Close, Paradise Square, down by the Tram Sheds, and up Solly St and always late for school.

hazel

lazyherbert
21-06-2007, 11:21
Is this of any help to any one?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/streetrelated/1890smap.htm

lazyherbert
21-06-2007, 11:27
Or these?http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl

crookesey
21-06-2007, 12:19
I remember when the Odeon (now the bingo hall) was built using the existing steel work that was supposed to house the new Joseph Rodgers works. Behind it was Milk Street housing the Post Office club and the B&C Co-Op's staff canteen was at the bottom of Sycamore Street. Going up Sycamore Street there was the rear door to Wilks ironmongers and the Adelphi at the top at the corner with Tudor Way.

Where are all the photographs, there must be some?

lazyherbert
21-06-2007, 13:15
If you go to the web page, Sheffield in pictures, you can see all the pictures of every street in Sheffield. I have tried to put them on to this thread but no success.

multiparvo1
21-06-2007, 19:50
I remember when the Odeon (now the bingo hall) was built using the existing steel work that was supposed to house the new Joseph Rodgers works. Behind it was Milk Street housing the Post Office club and the B&C Co-Op's staff canteen was at the bottom of Sycamore Street. Going up Sycamore Street there was the rear door to Wilks ironmongers and the Adelphi at the top at the corner with Tudor Way.

Where are all the photographs, there must be some?

You will find all the photographs and evidence you need in David Richardson's book 'Remember Sheffield in the 50's, 60's, 70's'. You will perhaps find this in the Central Library, Surrey Street.