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Beamish
17-06-2007, 20:32
the Sheffield 'poet' John Cooper Clark? Roundabout late 70's early 80's.

Beamish

JoeP
17-06-2007, 20:34
If it's THE John Cooper Clarke, he was the Bard of Salford, not Sheffield.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cooper_Clarke
http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/

"Keith Joseph smiles and a baby dies,
In a box on Beasley Street"

When I was a student I lived in Moss Side / Whalley Range in Manchester in Darnley Street. That poem fitted Darnley Street excellently!

http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/beasley.html

Oh....and I think he lived with Nico (of Velvet Underground fame) for a while in the 1980s?

drinkingman
17-06-2007, 21:38
John Cooper Clarke is a brilliant poet, if only for "Beasley Street" alone. "A Love Story In Reverse" is another favourite of mine. He's appeared at the Boardwalk a couple of times in the last couple of years.

If I remember rightly, the "Sheffield Poet" of the time was a guy called Mark Miwurdz. Anyone know what he's doing now?

segasonic
17-06-2007, 21:47
Is John Cooper Clarke responsible for Psycle Sluts 1 & 2? I think he's from Manchester.

jake
17-06-2007, 21:58
If I remember rightly, the "Sheffield Poet" of the time was a guy called Mark Miwurdz. Anyone know what he's doing now?


I'm pretty sure Mark Miwurdz was from Bolton...

Did Sheffield have any punk poets?

Draggletail
18-06-2007, 00:10
I'm pretty sure Mark Miwurdz was from Bolton...

Did Sheffield have any punk poets?

He was originally 'Marx' Miwurds as postered in and around West St. Nice bloke, used to drink in the Hanover, Broomhall.

Buggered of to London and did a bit of TV and stuff.

As said by others here (John cooper Clarkes) Beasley Street was brilliant, slowly building and increasing in energy, so many lines in the lyrics still come to mind.

FAR FROM CRAZY PAVEMENTS

...THE TASTE OF SILVER SPOONS

A CLINICAL ARRANGEMENT

...ON A DIRTY AFTERNOON

WHERE THE FECAL GERMS OF MR. FREUD

...ARE RENDERED OBSOLETE

THE LEGAL TERM IS NULL AND VOID

IN THE CASE OF... BEASLEY STREET



IN THE CHEAP SEATS WHERE MURDER BREEDS

SOMEBODY IS OUT OF BREATH

SLEEP IS A LUXURY THEY DON'T NEED

...A SNEAK PREVIEW OF DEATH

BELLADONNA IS YOUR FLOWER

MANSLAUGHTER YOUR MEAT

SPEND A YEAR IN A COUPLE OF HOURS

ON THE EDGE OF BEASLEY STREET



WHERE THE ACTION ISN'T

THAT'S WHERE IT IS

STATE YOUR POSITION

VACANCIES EXIST

IN AN X-CERTIFICATE EXERCISE

EX-SERVICEMEN EXCRETE

KEITH JOSEPH SMILES AND A BABY DIES

IN A BOX ON BEASLEY STREET



FROM THE BOARDING HOUSES AND THE BEDSITS FULL OF

...ACCIDENTS AND FLEAS

SOMEBODY GETS IT

WHERE THE MISSING PERSONS FREEZE

WEARING DEAD MEN'S OVERCOATS

YOU CAN'T SEE THEIR FEET

A RIFF JOINT SHUTS - OPENS UP

RIGHT DOWN ON BEASLEY STREET



CARS COLLIDE, COLOURS CLASH

DISASTER MOVIE STUFF

FOR A MAN WITH THE FU MANCHU MOUSTACHE

REVENGE IS NOT ENOUGH

THERE'S A DEAD CANARY ON A SWIVEL SEAT

THERE'S A RAINBOW IN THE ROAD

MEANWHILE ON BEASLEY STREET

SILENCE IS THE CODE



HOT BENEATH THE COLLAR

...AN INSPECTOR CALLS

WHERE THE PERISHING STINK OF SQUALOR

...IMPREGNATES THE WALLS

THE RATS HAVE ALL GOT RICKETS

THEY SPIT THROUGH BROKEN TEETH

THE NAME OF THE GAME IS NOT CRICKET

CAUGHT OUT ON ...BEASLEY STREET



THE HIPSTER AND HIS HIRED HAT

DRIVE A BORROWED CAR

YELLOW SOCKS AND A PINK CREVAT

NOTHING LA-DI-DAH

O-A-P

MOTHER-TO-BE

WATCH THE THREE-PIECE SUITE

WHEN ****STOPPER DRAINS

AND CROCODILE SKIS

ARE SEEN ON ...BEASLEY STREET



THE KINGDOM OF THE BLIND

...A ONE-EYED MAN IS KING

BEAUTY PROBLEMS ARE REDEFINED

...THE DOORBELLS DO NOT RING

A LIGHT BULB BURST LIKE A BLISTER

THE ONLY FORM OF HEAT

WHERE A FELLOW SELLS HIS SISTER

...DOWN THE RIVER ON BEASLEY STREET



THE BOYS ARE ON THE WAGON

THE GIRLS ARE ON THE SHELF

THEIR COMMON PROBLEM IS

...THAT THEY'RE NOT SOMEONE ELSE

THE DIRT BLOWS OUT

THE DUST BLOWS IN

YOU CAN'T KEEP IT NEAT

IT'S A FULLY FURNISHED DUSTBIN

...SIXTEEN BEASLEY STREET



VINCE THE AGEING SAVAGE

BETRAYS NO KIND OF LIFE

...BUT THE SMELL OF YESTERDAY'S CABBAGE

AND THE GHOST OF LAST YEAR'S WIFE

THROUGH A CONSTANT HAZE

OF DEODORANT SPRAYS

HE SAYS ...RETREAT

ALSATIANS DOG THE DIRTY DAYS

DOWN THE MIDDLE OF BEASLEY STREET



PEOPLE TURN TO POISON

QUICK AS LAGER TURNS TO ****

SWEETHEARTS ARE PHYSICALLY SICK

EVERY TIME THEY KISS

IT'S A SOCIOLOGIST'S PARADISE

EACH DAY REPEATS

UNEASY, CHEASY, GREASY, QUEASY

...BEASTLY, BEASLEY STREET



EYES DEAD AS VICIOUS FISH

LOOK AROUND FOR LAUGHS

IF I COULD HAVE JUST ONE WISH

I WOULD BE A PHOTOGRAPH

ON A PERMANENT MONDAY MORNING

GET LOST OR FALL ASLEEP

WHEN THE YELLOW CATS ARE YAWNING

AROUND THE BACK OF BEASLEY STREET

LYRICS © JOHN COOPER CLARKE

Alastair
18-06-2007, 02:29
JCC became a heroin addict is what I heard, maybe still is. He still performs from time to time.

Merry_Legs
18-06-2007, 07:27
He entered the dragon, and exited Jonny Claaarke

paulcrofts
18-06-2007, 18:22
Mark Miwurdz is now plain Mark Hurst i think, and doing stuff on radio 4.
Saw him several times in the early eighties, and he was always good.

Seen JCC a few times as well over the years, and he's always been entertaining. and funny.
He's playing the Boardwalk 25th Oct for anyone interested.

Altogether now..
"what kind of creature bore you, was it some kind of bat
they can't find a good word for you, but i can....."

melthebell
18-06-2007, 18:42
we had graehme fellows
also known as john shuttleworth :)
and also jilted john :D

http://www.shuttleworths.co.uk/home.html

segasonic
18-06-2007, 18:46
we had graehme fellows
also known as john shuttleworth :)
and also jilted john :D

http://www.shuttleworths.co.uk/home.html

'She is cruel and heartless to pack me for Gordon
Just cos he's better looking than me
Just cos he's cool and trendy
'ere we go ... two three four'

Class :D

carcrash
18-06-2007, 19:53
Chicken Town was my favorite Of JCC's. I was watch an episode of the sopranos the other day and Chicken town was on the closing credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEWT6pdjON8

carcrash
18-06-2007, 19:58
Beasley Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37QUUwp9xIs)

sparkyfred
18-06-2007, 20:34
Is John Cooper Clarke responsible for Psycle Sluts 1 & 2? I think he's from Manchester.

He is from Manchester. In my student days in the 70's I lived for a year in Sedgley Park, north Manchester, the same area he did at the time, and used to see him around quite a lot - in the street, in the laundrette, and in the local pub (the George I think it was).

The best of his stuff that I've heard is T**T - brilliant!

melthebell
18-06-2007, 20:57
'She is cruel and heartless to pack me for Gordon
Just cos he's better looking than me
Just cos he's cool and trendy
'ere we go ... two three four'

Class :D

#GORDON IS A MORON



wonder if any gordons did get offended by that song, wish i still had that 7" now
think i bought mine from the 10p section outside kennys records once, or it couldve been hitsville

segasonic
18-06-2007, 21:05
wonder if any gordons did get offended by that song, wish i still had that 7" now
think i bought mine from the 10p section outside kennys records once, or it couldve been hitsville

I had 'Gordon is a Moron' as my MSN tag for a while, one of my mates then informed me that his Grandad is named Gordon ... :D

melthebell
18-06-2007, 21:11
I had 'Gordon is a Moron' as my MSN tag for a while, one of my mates then informed me that his Grandad is named Gordon ... :D

then you changed it to "grandad gordon is a moron"??

segasonic
18-06-2007, 21:21
then you changed it to "grandad gordon is a moron"??

If only I'd have thought of that at the time ... He'd have been so upset that he'd have cried all the way to the chip shop.

melthebell
18-06-2007, 21:24
If only I'd have thought of that at the time ... He'd have been so upset that he'd have cried all the way to the chip shop.

is that the one elvis works in?

Albatross
18-06-2007, 21:25
His wife left him to live in 1999 with her new boy friend a blob of slime.

Anj1364
18-06-2007, 21:32
My brother was a fan of him in the 70's he had one of his LP's (what the heck are they?) One of my favourite bits of a poem I can remember was one which I think was aimed at an ex which went:

Like a death at a birthday party
You spoil all the fun
Like a sucked and spat out smartie
You're no use to anyone.

and a bit that went:

You make life a fairy tale
........Grim!
(funny to those of us who remember Grimms fairy tales of course)

e3sa934
18-06-2007, 21:48
JCC is alive and well, and playing at the Boardwalk in October

Hear him on the b-side of Reverend and the Makers' current single (Heavyweight Champion of the World), 'duetting' with the Rev on 'The Last Resort'

nomme
18-06-2007, 21:49
More JCC tour dates @ http://www.johncooperclarke.com/Pages/current.htm

paulcrofts
18-06-2007, 23:18
Actually John Shuttleworth is on tour at the moment. Saw him last week at Buxton Opera House - fantastic!
Best of the new songs is "Can't go back to savoury now" about missing out on leftover shepherds pie. It's on his myspace page, worth a listen.

melthebell
19-06-2007, 18:10
somebody asked about sheff punk poets, i think the closest we have is mi old mate mixmiff from slopdosh bobbar and ivan crump
http://myspace.com/hummingbobbar

TinaTina
19-06-2007, 20:43
I think Henry Normal is from Sheffield/Chesterfield. He's of a similar ilk.
He later co wrote hit shows including the royal family & Mrs Merton show with Caroline Aherne.

Ant
19-06-2007, 21:01
I was always a Linton Kwesi Johnson man, myself.

Inglan is a bitch
dere's no escapin it
Inglan is a bitch
y'u bettah face up to it

melthebell
19-06-2007, 21:13
benjamin zephania?
atilla the stockbroker
wild willy barret
john otway
rory mcleod (sort of)
joolz

Gingerbarf
21-06-2007, 15:09
Have just read in a national rag that Alex from Arctic Monkeys is teaming up with John for the lyrics for a single???

paulcrofts
21-06-2007, 21:07
Have just read in a national rag that Alex from Arctic Monkeys is teaming up with John for the lyrics for a single???

Makes sense. I've seen something about him being influenced by JCC.
Here's a quick bit of Johnny Clarke from his website.

Tom Jones

Back in town in a black Rolls Royce
The funky hunky housewive's choice
In one fact he can rejoice
His trousers don't affect his voice.

Vasquez Rich
23-06-2007, 10:37
Have just read in a national rag that Alex from Arctic Monkeys is teaming up with John for the lyrics for a single???

John Shuttleworth more like.... a lot of their stuff sounds like Jilted John to me hahahahaha