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hi all
in tandem with the major undertaking of trying to record all sheffield born men and women who died in the great war, i am also recording and photographing all known ww1 war memorials in sheffield. i am looking for volunteers who are prepared to photograph and list the names on their local memorial and send them on to me.
here are the type of memorial i am recording :
public war memorials
works rolls of honour
school rolls of honour
college rolls of honour
church rolls of honour, you will also find individual memorial plaques in churches.
i am also photographing all ww1 soldiers headstones in sheffield cemeterys, if you want to tackle a cemetery i can provide you with grave references to make your task easier. while you are in cemeterys you will also find inscriptions on family graves of men lost in the war, i am also recording these.
i have already quite a few memorials etc in my data base but there are a lot more out there.
if any one is interested in helping out i can provide details of churches etc where i know there is a memorial to record. i will also let you know which memorials i have already recorded.
all contributions will be credited.
many thanks in advance
Dean
I'm sure that this will be a huge project, but I'm sure that it will make the process of tracing graves and memorials to relatives much easier once it is completed.
Good luck in ever reaching your goal.
There's a roll of honour for fallen Central Technical School boys on the wall in Bannerdale Education Centre reception. Can't remember whether it's for WWI or WW2 though.
hi saxon
not got that one on my list
anyone want to check it out?
Dean
There's a roll of honour for fallen Central Technical School boys on the wall in Bannerdale Education Centre reception. Can't remember whether it's for WWI or WW2 though.
There was a similar one in the main entrance of the old Firth Park Grammar. I wonder if they saved it before the demolition?
fox20thc 17-06-2007, 19:12 There was a similar one in the main entrance of the old Firth Park Grammar. I wonder if they saved it before the demolition?
They did! I saw it on a forum somewhere..
Hi algy hi fox
they did save it but its 2nd world war im afraid
thanks anyway
Dean
Hi Dean.
Just remembered that the one in Bannerdale is definitely 1939-45. Sorry about that.
hi all
in tandem with the major undertaking of trying to record all sheffield born men and women who died in the great war, i am also recording and photographing all known ww1 war memorials in sheffield. i am looking for volunteers who are prepared to photograph and list the names on their local memorial and send them on to me.
here are the type of memorial i am recording :
public war memorials
works rolls of honour
school rolls of honour
college rolls of honour
church rolls of honour, you will also find individual memorial plaques in churches.
i am also photographing all ww1 soldiers headstones in sheffield cemeterys, if you want to tackle a cemetery i can provide you with grave references to make your task easier. while you are in cemeterys you will also find inscriptions on family graves of men lost in the war, i am also recording these.
i have already quite a few memorials etc in my data base but there are a lot more out there.
if any one is interested in helping out i can provide details of churches etc where i know there is a memorial to record. i will also let you know which memorials i have already recorded.
all contributions will be credited.
many thanks in advance
Dean
That's a very worthwhile project, good luck with it.
Have you thought of contacting Sheffield Archives on Shoreham Street. They may well hold records to add to your database, and are usually very helpful.
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/?pgid=2929&fs=n
There may also be records held at the local studies Library in the main library in town. I think they have 25,000 images of which something like only 10,000 are available online at picture sheffield.com. My great great grandfather Harry Foers was killed Friday 12 November 1915 in France. PM me if you want to add his details and medal record to your list.
no probs saxon
hi zoso
yeah been using those places for years, they're excellent.
this is what i have got on 945 Corporal Harry Foers,1st/4th Battalion York and Lancs. Buried in Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery. He also appears on the Sheffield Roll of Honour. Anything else you could add would be very much appreciated.
Dean
This is a fantastic idea.
There's a nice well kept memorial at Eckington which I visited yesterday (currently working out there). Do you have that one?
Also, there's a roll of honour in one of the entrances to the Co-op on King Street / Castlegate.
And Walkley has one too.
no probs saxon
hi zoso
yeah been using those places for years, they're excellent.
this is what i have got on 945 Corporal Harry Foers,1st/4th Battalion York and Lancs. Buried in Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery. He also appears on the Sheffield Roll of Honour. Anything else you could add would be very much appreciated.
Dean
Hello Dean,
I've PM'ed you a list of what I have for him.
I've no idea which theatre he died in. Just France (or Belgium). I'd love to know where he actually fell and did make enquiries a couple of years ago. I was told military death certs (never seen one) usually recorded very little info apart from name, rank and serial number. I suppose our boys were dropping so fast that they didn't have time to record much else.
My grandmother was 3 when he was KIA. Her mother later remarried, then my grandmother had the misfortune to lose a half brother in WW2. I do have more details about my great uncle though, who fell during the North Africa Campaign.
I'd be interested to know what you know about death certs for soldiers killed in the great war.
This is a fantastic idea.
There's a nice well kept memorial at Eckington which I visited yesterday (currently working out there). Do you have that one?
Also, there's a roll of honour in one of the entrances to the Co-op on King Street / Castlegate.
And Walkley has one too.
Hi Joep
got the one in co-op, got the walkley one too. have'nt got the eckington one, would love photos and a list of inscriptions. also need any other wording inscribed on it. eckington is outside the sheffield boundaries im using for the project at the mo, but i have a data base for such areas for probable inclusion later, so again it would be very much appreciated.
regards
Dean
Hi zoso
thanks for the additional info on Harry.
i will PM you later with what i can do for you re Harry's war.
Dean
Eric_Collins 19-06-2007, 17:14 cracking idea,
* on a sad note * some low life b****rds removed a war grave Plaque from a tomb around our area as it was made of bronze. The thives only dragged t so far due to the weight and left it propped against a wall.
I hope this dose get done as our last of the last English soldiers will soon be gone forever.
Hi eric
this is the reason that i am wanting to do this.
so the men and women who died so we could live are commemorated as they should be.
regards
dean
eric
would you be able to photograph the said plaque?
thanks in advance
dean
There is a memorial in the community hall at Worrall but I haven't any details.
There was another one in bronze that used to be on the wall of the main entrance to the River Don Steelwork's offices but it was taken down and stored in the offices basement.
I don't know where it is now but I guess the works security would know.
I wonder if anyone out there can tell us any details of these two?
Not So Happy Days!
Hi PopT
really nice to meet you in local studies last friday, sorry we couldn't stop and have a proper chat. i have Worral on my list of memorials, but not river don, thanks for that, i'll check it out.
where are you now Pop, this hemisphere or the other?
regards
Dean
Albert T Smith 19-06-2007, 21:02 Hi PopT
really nice to meet you in local studies last friday, sorry we couldn't stop and have a proper chat. i have Worral on my list of memorials, but not river don, thanks for that, i'll check it out.
where are you now Pop, this hemisphere or the other?
regards
Dean
First:- I'll give you a ring next week PopT.
Second:- Its ordered and it is on its way. Dean1.
I'll cover the Dore and Totley area memorials, or better still, I'll ask someone who is better than myself to take some photographs of the memorials that the writing on them is readable.
Hi Albert
on my list for Totley i have -
a memorial in all saints church
a memorial in Totley rise methodist church
a memorial at Cherrytree orphanage
Totley war memorial-baslow road
there might be individual memorial plaques inside the churches as well.
for Dore i have -
a memorial inside christ church
a memorial at St Johns Rooms (it was a VAD hospital during the war)
Dore war memorial - vicarage lane
thanks Albert
regards
Dean
Hi Albert
got one more addition for you which is
Dore & Totley united reform church on totley brook rd
also Albert the st johns room memorial is now situated in the post office sorting office abbeydale road south we think.
help on any of the above is much appreciated
regards
Dean & Donna
Dean
I don't know if you know about the memorials in the former gas company offices in Commercial Street, now the Chinese buffet restaurant? I think they are in the entrance or hallway and were covered up when the building was converted into a restaurant. I have been told recently that they have now been uncovered again, though I haven't looked myself.
Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)
Hi There used to be a War Memorial on Effingham Road, just a few yards from where it starts on Attercliffe. I think it is to some civilians that were killed in one of the first air raids(a zepplin) in the 1st World War. I spoke to someone at the Library and they didn't know anything about it.
hi dean !
I'm here in Sheffield but leave for denmark tonight, will return mid July.
I'll sort some ww1 details out for you when I return.
It was good to put a face to a name the other day.
It was good talking to you, you are doing a really worthwhile job, good luck to you.
All the best
PopT
Dean
I don't know if you know about the memorials in the former gas company offices in Commercial Street, now the Chinese buffet restaurant? I think they are in the entrance or hallway and were covered up when the building was converted into a restaurant. I have been told recently that they have now been uncovered again, though I haven't looked myself.
Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)
HI HUGH
thanks for that, definately check that one out.
i'll be up walkley this saturday, hope to see you.
Dean
Hi There used to be a War Memorial on Effingham Road, just a few yards from where it starts on Attercliffe. I think it is to some civilians that were killed in one of the first air raids(a zepplin) in the 1st World War. I spoke to someone at the Library and they didn't know anything about it.
Hi Gemini
got that one last week,just before Bacon Lane. thanks for the input though.
Dean
Hi Dean
I've got some info on the All Saints memorials. I tried to PM you but it wouldn't allow me. Can you get in touch please?
Algy (DISREGARD, JUST FOUND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS!)
Hi Dean1
I have tried unsuccessfully to send you a private message about the WW1 war dead but unfortunately your private message facility on this forum has been blocked.
Look up the following site if you haven't already http:www.stannington.webitsmart.co.uk
the author is Robert Smith.
Hope this helps you.
PopT
In the King Edward's School on Glossop Road there all the names of the fallen and those who served from the WW1 on wood panels near the main entrance.
If you haven't already recorded these I'm sure if you gave the headmaster Mr Lewis a ring he would allow you to view them at a less busy time.
Hope this helps.
TheRedWizard 22-07-2007, 10:06 Dean,
Same thing, I've tried to PM you but it has been bounced back.
Red
i will also let you know which memorials i have already recorded.Hello Dean. How do we get to know which memorials etc. you have already recorded?
hi all
in tandem with the major undertaking of trying to record all sheffield born men and women who died in the great war, i am also recording and photographing all known ww1 war memorials in sheffield. i am looking for volunteers who are prepared to photograph and list the names on their local memorial and send them on to me.
here are the type of memorial i am recording :
public war memorials
works rolls of honour
school rolls of honour
college rolls of honour
church rolls of honour, you will also find individual memorial plaques in churches.
i am also photographing all ww1 soldiers headstones in sheffield cemeterys, if you want to tackle a cemetery i can provide you with grave references to make your task easier. while you are in cemeterys you will also find inscriptions on family graves of men lost in the war, i am also recording these.
i have already quite a few memorials etc in my data base but there are a lot more out there.
if any one is interested in helping out i can provide details of churches etc where i know there is a memorial to record. i will also let you know which memorials i have already recorded.
all contributions will be credited.
many thanks in advance
Dean
My uncle who was killed in 1917 (I sent you a picture with some details) ,Thomas Wright of the 2/4 York and Lancs ,is commemorated on a plaque (with others) on the outside wall of a church on Carver Street near Division Street in the centre of Sheffield.
hillsbro 23-07-2007, 22:36 I can photograph and list the Stannington war memorial if need be, next time I go (I am in the area about once a fortnight). There is a photo of the Stannington memorial on the site that PopT linked, but it's a fairly distant shot. Also there's no list of names as they are given on the memorial (my great-uncle was Charles Cecil Betts [known as Cecil] but he is shown as Cyril Betts on the memorial).
Hi all
i have PM'ED every one from post 29 - 35.
thanks
Dean
Hi all
here with list of memorials i have recorded.
james dixon & son
anns road primitive methodist, now chinese christian church
all saints, burngreave, now st peters. memorial now in St Georges, brookhill.
arundel ex-service men's club,city road
bannerdale methodist church
beighton methodist church,robin lane (recorded by forummer cat 631)(ww2 memorial stolen)
binfield road (row of memorial trees, only 5 left)
bradfield wesleyan sunday school
cemetery rd baptist church
cherry tree orphanage - totley
clifford school, sharrow
dolphin street memorial
ecclesall all saints church - memorial plaques
ecclesall co-op, heritage museum
ecclesfield church roll of honour and personal memorials
endcliffe methodist church- ecclesall road
firth park methodist church - firth park road
fulwood christ church (now been recorded by forumer algy)
old cresenters, hallam uni, collegiate cresent ( on the stairs to mary badland library)
gleadless methodist church
green social club - darnall
grimesthorpe wesleyan reform church and sunday school (sent in by forunner algy)
hillsborough baptist church-taplin rd
hillsborough united gospel & mission church
hollowmeadow's methodist church,manchester road
kingfield synagogue
loxley methodist chuch & sunday school
methodist chapel on hatfield house lane/winkley terrace ( memorial plaque to four men who were killed, afixed to organ) roll of honour in porch i beleive no lomger there.
meersbrook park united reform church
oughtibridge parish church
oughtibridge wesleyan reform chapel
oughtibridge zion church
park weslyan church, now at victoria methodist church, fitzwalter rd
ranmoor methodist church, now in hallam methodist, fulwood road
sharrow vale wesleyan reform church
st andrews united reform church, upper hanover street
st barnabas church highfield
st bartholomews primrose view - langsett road
st chads - linden ave
st clement's - newhall (large memorial window, now a ww2 memorial in All Saint's Church, Canberra, Australia) im attributing this find to forummer Walt
christ church - pitsmoor
greenhill methodist church
totley rise methodist church
grenoside methodist church memorial stones
bannercross methodist church
christ church - dore
all saints - dore
st augustines - brocco bank
st cuthberts firvale
st hildas windmill lane
st james - norton
st john's - chapletown
st johns - deepcar
st john the evangelist - ranmoor
st lawrence - tinsley
st luke(hollis croft) now in st georges,brook hill
st maries norfolk row
st margaret's , jenkin road (recorded by forumer Cat631)
st marys st marys gate/ bramall lane
st marys hansdworth road
st marys walkley
st matthews methodist church carver street
st oswals'd -bannerdale road
st thomas holywell road grimesthorpe (memorial now in st margarets jenkin road) recorded 29/7/07 by forumer cat361
st timothy's, slinn st, crookes
st nicholas bradfield
stannington parish church
thos.w.ward roll of honour
stocksbridge west end primitive methodist church
underbank chapel stopes road stannington
upper chapel unitarians norfolk street/channing hall
upper wincobank chapel
victoria hall methodist church - norfolk street
victoria methodist church, fitzwalter rd
wadsley parish church - worral road
wadsley war memorial (recorded by 27/7/07)
wadsley methodist church & wesleyan church (now in john fairest funeral home)(recorded 27/7/07)
walkley reform club
warren lane methodist - chapletown
wharncliffe school
wincobank primitive methodist church roll of honour
wortley church wortley
sheffield cathedral -
memorial to officers of 12th bn y&l
memorial to nco's of the y&l
3rd northern general hospital memorial
memorial to officers of the hallamshires
fire & police war memorial
memorial to freemasons & lewis's
memorial pews
british gas, transco house, effingham road (recorded by forummer cat361)
cammel laird roll of honour cyclops works - kelham island
james dixon & sons
Loosmoore Drive - plaque to Sgt Arnold Loosemoore VC (recorded by forummer cat361)
manor park social club,city road
tyzacks - kelham island
rutland hall settlement guild - rutland road (no longer there,STOLEN)
peace gardens
sanderson brothers and newbould, newhall road,now Latrobe Speciality Steel Company(recorded by forummer cat 361)
sheffield city hall
sheffield companions club
sheffield masonic lodge - shore lane
sheffield postal service - castle house
sheffield solicitors,Law Society Hall, Campo Lane. (2 rolls of honour, Solicitors Clerks and Solicitors and Articled Clerks, located on the stairs )
sheffield telegraph
sheffield town hall
sheffield university, firth building
somme barracks - west street
samuel osbourne & co ltd (served)
samuel osbourne & co ltd (died)
hadfields (no names)
arthur balfour & co ltd
vickers - brightside lane
sheffield forge masters -rescued from their sports club at shirecliffe. (now along side the Vickers one's at gate 1)
weston park - york & lancs memorial & ramc
central school for boys, leopold st. now in high storrs school library
great central railway - holiday inn
bolsterstone war memorial
bradfield war memorial
chapletown war memorial
dore war memorial
ecclesfield war memorial
ecclesall war memorial
fulwood war memorial (now photographed and recorded by forumer algy)
gleadless war memorial
grenoside war memorial
hackenthorpe war memorial
halfway war memorial (now recorded by forumer cat361)
norton war memorial
park war memorial
ranmoor war memorial
stannington war memorial
stocksbridge war memorial(clock tower)
tinsley war memorial (in graveyard)
tinsley nursery infants school (recorded by forummer cat 361)
totley war memorial
walkley war memorial
woodhouse mill,fence and junction road war memorial (recorded by forummer cat 361)
woodhouse war memorial - market place (recorded by forummer cat361)
zeppelin war memorial
CWGC headstones and inscriptions on family graves photographed in these cemeterys
wadsley parish church
abbey lane
birtin cemetery oughtibridge
bradfield st nicholas churchyard
brightside (st thomas) churchyard
bolsterstone
burncross cemetery
burngreave
city road
clifton chapel loxley (long lane)
crookes
darnall cemetery
ecclesfield churchyard
ecclesfield jewish cemetery
gleadless christ church churchyard, hollinsend road
handsworth old cemetery
handsworth new cemetery
intake cemetery (mansfield road)
loxley united reform chapel yard
norton cemetery derbyshire lane
rivelin (st micheals cemetery)
sheffield general
sheffield (rivelin jewish) cemetery
stannington weslyan methodist chapelyard
stannington parish church
stocksbridge united reform church
st thomas's churchyard, holywell road
tankersley (st peters) churchyard (outside area but a lone sheffield casualty buried there)
tinsley (st lawrence) churchyard
tinsley park cemetery - barleywood road
wadsley churchyard
walkley (st mary) church cemetery
wardsend cemetery
wisewood cemetery - loxley road
woodhouse cemetery
also at city road the two screen walls for men buried in ths sheffield general cemetery and (st phillip) wards end cemy's.
also the screen wall at burngreave cemy.
Dean
hi all again
memorials that are still needed
dore parish church (ww1 memorial lych gate, and plaque.
methodist church? corner of sharrow lane / south view road
st johns - ranmoor - plaque in bell tower
st johns evangilist - abbeydale road south
st johns methodist - sharrow
trinity united reform church - eccesall road
woodhouse mill church - retford road
atlas works - attercliffe road - now special melted products
middlewood hospital (memorial window)also the roll of honour,20' by 6' high in oak.
sheffield education dept leopold street - now bannerdale centre
st johns room dore - now abbeydale sorting office abbeydale road (being covered by forummer albert t smith)
kelham island
william hutton & sons
i will update the two lists as and when the memorials are recorded. if you can think of any i have missed would you please let me know.
Regards
Dean
Hello Dean
I have been trying to locate the WW1 memorial that used to be in St Thomas's Chuch Brightside on Holywell Road in Grimesthorpe. Not to be confused with St.Thomas's Wincobank.
The building is now a Circus Training school and I suspect the memorial may have been relocated to St.Margarets Chuch on Jenkin Road, Brightside, when the two parishes merged.
I should be grateful if anyone could confirm its whereabouts. I believe my great grandfather is named on it.
Hello Walt. I was told they had been taken to St Thomas's Wincobank but when I met Christine Crossey a while ago, she said they were at St. Margarets. I will go and have a look and hopefully take some photos.
Hi Walt
nice bit of new infomation.
i'll add it to my list's.
hope you track it down.
Dean
the lodger 26-07-2007, 11:34 I seem to remember that there is a memorial in Thorncliffe Hall at Chapeltown. The old 'Whitehouse' that used to be the HQ of Newton Chambers. Not sure whether it was for WW1 or WW2 though. I think it was halfway up the main stairs.
I seem to remember that there is a memorial in Thorncliffe Hall at Chapeltown. The old 'Whitehouse' that used to be the HQ of Newton Chambers. Not sure whether it was for WW1 or WW2 though. I think it was halfway up the main stairs.
Hi
thank you for that info
i'll definately check it out as i have 'nt got it on my list's.
cheers
Dean
TheRedWizard 28-07-2007, 00:46 Hi Dean,
Cheers for the message. Just thought I'd ask about whether you've seen the directory site http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/
There might be bits to help but it's far from exhaustive and you'll be able to add loads from Sheffield.
I'm in touch with the history project over at Kiveton, which historically is considered part of Sheffield, and know that they've had volunteers and local enthusiasts researching all the men who fell from the village - with photos, objects, diaries, etc.
Hope all is well,
Red
TheRedWizard 28-07-2007, 00:49 PS do you still need the memorials recorded as listed on the previous page? I'll root out my camera and get busy this weekend or next if so.
Hi Red
yeah im aware of that web site red, gleaned a bit off it. i will submit all the others from sheffield sometime in the future.
Kiveton is outside the boundaries im working within at the mo, but i do have areas such as kiveton that are for probable later inclusion.
Yes, the lists are still current. im editing the lists as and when they get recorded. in also putting a note against the ones people have volunteered to record.
so yes please, dig your camera out and get snapping!
regards
Dean
Just for clarity,
i need to be able to read all the details from your photographs. if its a large roll of honour then one main photograph of the memorial and lots of close ups of the names on them is fine.
also any makers marks are also important.
thanks all
Dean
Dean, where do you want us to send photos and info?
Hi cat 631
i'll pm you my e-mail
regards
Dean
Does anyone know the location of the war memorial at Halfway please?
Hi Dean
Is Rawmarsh on your list or out of boundary for now? I have a great uncle killed in ww1
Marion
Does anyone know the location of the war memorial at Halfway please?
I think its within 50 yards of the big island at the tram terminus on the right hand side heading towards Beighton
Hi Dean
Is Rawmarsh on your list or out of boundary for now? I have a great uncle killed in ww1
Marion
Hi Marion
outside the boundary i'm working on at the mo, but would like the details on your great uncle for probable inclusion later.
regards
Dean
It was nice to meet Albert T Smith in Dore church this morning.
I hadn't read this thread then and hadn't realised exactly what he was looking for.
I didn't point out that the lychgate is a war memorial and has a small plaque on it.
I showed him a couple of graves of young lads who died in France but there are a few others.
When I've located them I'll contact you again Albert if you want to come back to photograph them.
Hi Dick
glad you bumped into Albert, wonderful man. He has been a MASSIVE help with this project. Hi Albert.
a nice bit of new information about the Lychgate and plaque Dick. just wondering if anybody know's of other Lychgate's as war memorial's? the only other one i know of is at Wortley church.
Dean
Thanks Biker, I will get the camera and find it. I've asked the following question on the Grimesthorpe thread too. Does anyone know if there was a memorial in the Wesley Hall at the bottom of Wincobank Lane, Grimesthorpe? I think it is a mosque now.
Albert T Smith 08-08-2007, 16:50 My wife and I have almost finished Dore - Totley.
What format do you want the name list sending?
Thanks
good evening Albert
how are you?
just send it in whatever format it comes word or works processor whatever.
thanks in advance
Donna
Albert T Smith 08-08-2007, 18:55 good evening Albert
how are you?
just send it in whatever format it comes word or works processor whatever.
thanks in advance
Donna
Elaine should finish what we have done tonight or tomorrow then I'll send it. - The board in the Post Office on Abbeydale Road,South. That was previously a hospital and the one at Cherry Tree Home were not to be found.
Have you got any information about them please?
Albert.
hi albert
we only have the information we have sent i am afraid but we will try to find out more.
regards
Dean & Donna
Hi Dean1
Are you interested in individual Sheffield men who served in WW1.
I know of several family members who served and survived.
If you are interested I'll send you as much info as I can but I do not want to waste your time.
If you do I'm sure that many Sheffield forummers could do the same.
Happy Days!
Albert T Smith 09-08-2007, 11:54 Is the Bradway, Dronfield Woodhouse, Holmesfield areas covered or are they to be included? and is Whirlow, Millhouses, Beauchief Areas been attended to?
If not we will cover those.
Anyone reading if you know where any reminder of the first world war is which I could photograph for this project in the Dore - Totley Area please let me know. - Thank you.
hi pop t
how are you? hope you are well. we are ok.
any information on any soldier that served in ww1 that has a sheffield connection wether he died or not is gratefully received.
regards Dean & Donna
hi albert
how are you and your wife?
me and Dean are fine just working away at our project!
to start with, the areas bradway is definately included the others are out of the area.
regarding millhouses, beauchief and whirlow these are not being covered as yet.
regards
Donna
Arfer Mo 09-08-2007, 20:18 Hi Walt
nice bit of new infomation.
i'll add it to my list's.
hope you track it down.
DeanHi dean Where did the memorial plaques get to that were round the flagpole in Barkers Pool Arthur.
Arfer Mo 09-08-2007, 20:32 hi pop t
how are you? hope you are well. we are ok.
any information on any soldier that served in ww1 that has a sheffield connection wether he died or not is gratefully received.
regards Dean & DonnaMy uncle Albert Fearnehough fell in the great war and my late father-in-law Walter Hydes served in that war i don't have any details such as regiments but they were both born and bred in Sheffield Arthur.
Albert T Smith 09-08-2007, 20:37 hi albert
how are you and your wife?
me and Dean are fine just working away at our project!
to start with, the areas bradway is definately included the others are out of the area.
regarding millhouses, beauchief and whirlow these are not being covered as yet.
regards
Donna
Dean. Please send me any detail which you have of the Millhouses, Beauchief and Whirlow areas.
Do we have another volunteer to cover any one of these areas?
All you need is a paper and pen.
PopT. I'll be in touch shortly if you are back in the U.K.
Hi dean Where did the memorial plaques get to that were round the flagpole in Barkers Pool Arthur.
hi Arthur
i do not remember any plaques around the flagpole at barkers pool!
if anybody else can help with this one it would be greatley appreciated.
as for your relatives arthur if you want to send me what information you have got and i will have a look what i can find out for you.
regards Dean
good morning albert.
we do not have any details regarding what needs recording in millhouses beauchief whirlow or bradway all that we do is just go into the churches in that area and see if there are any memorials in them.
regards Dean & donna
Albert T Smith 10-08-2007, 06:27 good morning albert.
we do not have any details regarding what needs recording in millhouses beauchief whirlow or bradway all that we do is just go into the churches in that area and see if there are any memorials in them.
regards Dean & donna
Will do the same.
TheRedWizard 10-08-2007, 11:56 Hi gents (Dean and Albert),
Are you doing that this weekend (Beauchief, Millhouses, etc.)? Myself and a friend are going to spend a couple of hours tomorrow searching out memorials and as we're at that end of town it might be a good place for us to start.
What do you think? Otherwise, we'll pick another few from the list and start there.
JT
ps Albert, have you got any good photos of your Grandad, preferably in the 1920s? I could do with a good one for an article being published next year and at the moment I've only got grainy ones from the Independent and possibly an election leaflet.
TheRedWizard 10-08-2007, 11:59 pps Are you photographing buildings of interest too. Albert's post reminded me about the hospital/convalescence home opposite Dore station in Totley.
capricorn_11 10-08-2007, 12:35 hi pop t
how are you? hope you are well. we are ok.
any information on any soldier that served in ww1 that has a sheffield connection wether he died or not is gratefully received.
regards Dean & Donna
Hi, Dean & Donna,
Here are details of my Uncle if its of any interest to you. :-
Private Arnold Middleton No.32511
9th. Service Bn., York & Lancs.
died Mon. 24 September 1917 aged 22.
Battle of Menin Road
Memorial:- Panel 125/128 Tyne Cot,
Zonnebeke, Belgium
regards Capricorn_11
Albert T Smith 10-08-2007, 16:02 Hi gents (Dean and Albert),
Are you doing that this weekend (Beauchief, Millhouses, etc.)? Myself and a friend are going to spend a couple of hours tomorrow searching out memorials and as we're at that end of town it might be a good place for us to start.
What do you think? Otherwise, we'll pick another few from the list and start there.
JT
ps Albert, have you got any good photos of your Grandad, preferably in the 1920s? I could do with a good one for an article being published next year and at the moment I've only got grainy ones from the Independent and possibly an election leaflet.
I'm busy tomorrow and I've got a walk on Sunday. The Stanage-Moscar-Low Bradfield bit of the Sheffield Walk. You are welcome to join.
We have done the Dore - Totley Memorials and you are welcome to fish out any others around Beauchief, Whirlow, Millhouses area. If you do any please let me know so that the works not duplicated. I'll do the same for you in future.
I try to photograph each memorial to enable us to read the writing on it. We can then refer to it for cross checking.
I then take a general photo of the memorial.
All the photos will be usefull to someone at some later date. We'll have to find away to sign away, our own individual copywrite of them somehow. This would solve any future problems.
I can see that, Dean will soon be asking for double time rate, to cover all the feed back he'll be having to co-ordinate.
I'll see if I've got a photo of my late granddad and come back to you.
My wife has got the family tree.
Although this all Depends on what my mother knew!!!
'Be cos', Daughter-in-laws don't know ever thing!!.
Thank's capricorn _11
now added to the database.
regards
Dean
Hi Red, i'll be in the burngreave, norton and abby lane(cemetery) area's this weekend. yes building's and structure's are covered that were built as memorial's.
triple time Arthur! stuff is flying in!!
best regards to you all
Dean
Hi Dean
This is the 1st time using the Forum
I am recording all the names of the fallen listed on the Rotherham Memorial in Clifton Park. I have written some 40000 words so far & still going
I am also doing the same for the Chapeltown Memorial in the Chapeltown Park
Feel as though I can give you a lot of info
How can I get in touch with you to send info
Regards & good luck to your project
ARG21
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I went to photograph the wall plaque to Sgt A Loosemore VC only to find it has been stolen from it's rightful place on Gleadless Common/Loosemore Drive. How sad that someone can stoop so low.
Hello ARG21. If you have a digital camera, photograph the memorial and names then email them to Dean.
Albert T Smith 11-08-2007, 14:22 [QUOTE=cat631;2527167]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o130/cat631/DSCN4367.jpg
I went to photograph the wall plaque to Sgt A Loosemore VC only to find it has been stolen from it's rightful place on Gleadless Common/Loosemore Drive. How sad that someone can stoop so low.
When Dean and Co have finished or co-ordinated all the work.
I think that we are to learn a great deal more regarding such as the above.
If Sgt Loosemore VC. was still alive today, I wonder what he would think?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Loosemore
This tells us about the man and how he won his VC.
While at Loosemore Drive, I met a resident who told me Sgt. Loosemore's sister lives there.
Hi Albert
upset me too, Arhur's life is anther facet of the ww1 project.
i'd like to know what his 6 brothers would have thought as well !!
all 7 Loosemoore brothers served in ww1, a massive contribution from one family, to give us and the moron's who have taken the plaque the freedom's we now have.
i think this is a long running saga, as i have heard of the plaque going missing before.
i am in touch with a direct decendent of Arnold who live's in Devon. she has been researching the Loosemores for 30 yrs and is in the process of forwarding all her research to me. i think there are more decent people about than the people who stole the memorial.
i'd also like to know who decided to help themselve's to the memorial inside Rutland Hall Settlement Guild ?
and while im at it, has anyone seen the state of the war memorial at chapletown? covered in graffiti ! the memorial is in a really nice setting but it is out of the way, just the sort of place the young one's hang about. if i lived in chapletown i would start a campaign to get it sited in a more public setting.
Chapletowner's ? are you up for it ?
Dean
Hi Dean
This is the 1st time using the Forum
I am recording all the names of the fallen listed on the Rotherham Memorial in Clifton Park. I have written some 40000 words so far & still going
I am also doing the same for the Chapeltown Memorial in the Chapeltown Park
Feel as though I can give you a lot of info
How can I get in touch with you to send info
Regards & good luck to your project
ARG21
ARG21
I will pm you
regards
Dean
hi cat361
all i have is a reference to parkgate iron & steel company from a website saying there is a ww1 memorial roll of honour but it does not state where it is, just Sheffield area.
if anybody know where it is located please let us know
many thanks
Dean & Donna
hillsbro 11-08-2007, 18:18 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Loosemore
This tells us about the man and how he won his VC. While at Loosemore Drive, I met a resident who told me Sgt. Loosemore's sister lives there.
I have a few notes on the Loosemore family, as we lived about 100 yards from them at Woodland View. Arnold was badly injured in the war and was partially disabled; I can't be sure but I imagine that he died from the long-term effects of his injuries, as he was only 27. He married Amy Morton in 1920, and they had a son, also Arnold, born the following year. In the late 1950s Arnold junior and his wife Audrey took over the nearby off-licence shop in Stannington Road. I seem to recall that he sold his father's Victoria Cross via a London auction firm in about 1966-67; there was an article about it in The Star and it caused a bit of ill-feeling locally. They sold the shop and moved to the Shirecliffe/Southey Green area; as far as I know Arnold and Audrey are still alive in their 80s.
Hi Hilsbro
i downloaded his attestation papers from ancestry.com last week and they give the full details of his injuries. he was shot through both leg's. losing on of them. the family were left in dire strait's as he didn't qualify for a war pension, because he married after his war service had ended. sheffield rotary club did provide him with a pony and trap though! there is an excellent book written by Douglas Lamb, entitled LEST WE FORGET. there is a good amout about Arnold in there. (sorry mod's if that is advertising)
Dean
Hi Dean
The roll of honour names of employees of the Parkgate Iron & Steel Co who have joined His Majestys Forces European war is located in the Archives Section, Central Library, Walker Place, Rotherham.
I have a list of names that were transcribed on the memorial
The transcription was done by Mr F Westwood & Mr A Featherstone
I have a copy of monuments in the Rotherham area & location, also names etc on them
If you want any look ups please ask
Hi Les
thank's for the infomation.
the parkgate memorial is outside the boundarie's im using for this project. i included it tentatively because of a reference i noted a few month's back. i would still like the list of men that appear on there, if that is possible? as i would then cross reference them with SDGW.
a big thank you for the list's you sent me, although i already have them.
Re St John's churchyard at chapletown, i spoke to the ex vicar a few month's ago and he said that there were memorial's inside the church but some of them had bee removed.
a company of builder's have bought the church and i do have a name and number for possible access, so i need to chase that one up.
again, many thank's Les
regards
Dean
My great grandfather Walter Rawson who was killed in the first world war lived in the Newhall Road area of Attercliffe. This would have been in the parish of St.Clements which was demolished in 1963. Is anyone aware if the church had a war memorial listing the dead, and if so where it would be located ?
One interesting fact about St.Clements that I have found on the web, is that the original stained glass window from the church was preserved and is now itself a war memorial to the Second World War dead of Australia in Canberra.
http://www.skp.com.au/memorials2/pages/00025.htm
Hi Walt
the only thing i can add is this :
St Clement, Paget Street, Newhall.
originally referred to as the Eyre memorial church,st clements hall,sanderson street was erected in 1886. the parish was created in 1907 from St thomas,brightside. Consecrated 1914, demolished 1961.
Description of war memorial :
The War Memorial to 154 men who fell in the Great War consist's of an extremely beautiful stained "Kempe" window at the east end, erected at a cost of £600. The main subject is the Great Sacrifice on the Cross. in the central light is represented the Crucifiction; on the two adjacent light's are St Clement, the Patron Saint of the Church, with his emblem, an anchor; and St Peter with the emblematic key's and an open book with the text St Mathew xvi, 16, "Thou art the Christ," &c. In other part's are smaller figure's representing St Michael and the Dragon, David, Isaiah, Zechariah, and Daniel, each with a scroll on which is a text referring to the Great Sacrifice. There are also subordinate figure's of the Prohet's Joel, Micah, Amos, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Malachi. In the base appear's the inscription, "Remembering ye with thanksgiving and all honour before God and man those who went forth from Newhall to the Great War 1914-1919, and returned not again."
Sheffield Archive's have ;
Baptism's 1886-1961
Marriage's 1914-1961
Held in PR 35.
For St Clement's.
So the window in oz you found is the memorial! Well done Walt.
Might be worth an e-mail to oz for a close up of the window to see if there is a list of name's on there? although the description above doesn't mention one.
regard's
Dean
PS just found a close up of the window on the All Saint's website, cant see a roll of Honour.
Does anyone know if there was a Memorial/Roll of Honour in Jessops on Brightside Lane?
Hi all
Re post 80:
passing the war memorial at Chapletown the other day, i now notice it is spick and span! cleaned and repointed. i gather then that the council? or some other body are on a maintainence spree of all war memorial's in sheffield, as every one i have visited recently is looking pristine.
anyone enlighten me?
my challenge to Chapletowner's still stand's!! Get it moved!
regard's
Dean
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Memorial for the casualties of the Zepplin raid on Sheffield in 1916.
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Memorial for the casualties of the Zepplin raid on Sheffield in 1916.
Can you please tell me exactly where these people were killed.Apparently my grandmother was hanging washing out on Lovell street near Princess Street when she thought it had suddenly started raining.It was paraffin,not rain being poured from a Zepplin ,who was trying to light it !
Hi
On the night of 25th September 1916 a lone Zeppelin dropped thirty-six bombs between Burngreave Cemetery and Darnall before heading home without any resistance. The total loss of life was twenty-eight. A hotel, a chapel and many houses were damaged, including Lyons Street and Cossey Street but the industrial targets were totally missed.
You may find further information in the Local Studies
Tuppie
When I worked in the steelworks all the drawings of the Steelwork's areas had the route of the Zeppelins drawn across them with notes in the margins giving the dates.
Where they had dropped their bombs were also marked on.
I often wondered what happened to those maps.
Happy Days!
hi biker, tuppie, pop t
try this excellent website! zeppelins over sheffield. think i am right in saying that all but three casualties were buried in burngreave cemetery
the other three must be these three from a grave in abbey lane cemetery
in affectionate rememberance of
levi hames
aged 23 years
also his loving wife
beatrice
aged 22 years
and their beloved son
horace william
aged 14 months
who was killed at 10 cossey road sheffield
september 26th 1916
in the midst of life we are in death.
we do have a photo of this headstone as well if anyone would like a copy emailing to them let us know.
hello pop
hope you are ok!
yes it would be great if we could find the maps of where the zeppelins bombs dropped in sheffield, i do know there is a map for where the bombs dropped in second world war.
regards dean
When I worked in the steelworks all the drawings of the Steelwork's areas had the route of the Zeppelins drawn across them with notes in the margins giving the dates.
Where they had dropped their bombs were also marked on.
I often wondered what happened to those maps.
Happy Days!
Which steelworks did you work in?
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While looking for the British Gas memorial on Effingham Road, I took this photo of a footbridge over the River Don and the debris trapped on it during the recent flood.
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One of the more difficult to get to memorials on the moors between Bleaklow and Longdendale in the Peak District. It's not WW1 and I think, just before the start of WW2, to commemorate the the crew of two who died when their Blenheim Bomber crashed.
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The photo of the Zeppilin memorial posted by cat631 shows a new memorial.
There used to be an old cast iron one.
Does anyone know what happened to it?
I know it was very rusty and uncared for but but I presume it dated from the time of the first war.
It's a pity if it's been destroyed.
Hi Biker
I worked at the River Don works on Brightside Lane and the Grimesthorpe Works on Carlisle street.
In my job I did move around and worked at most of the steelworks owned by the British Steel Corporation.
Happy days Indeed!
The photo of the Zeppilin memorial posted by cat631 shows a new memorial.
There used to be an old cast iron one.
Does anyone know what happened to it?
I know it was very rusty and uncared for but but I presume it dated from the time of the first war.
It's a pity if it's been destroyed.
Hi Dick
that's intriguing, not heard of an original one.
i suppose it got chucked out when the new one was made, shame if it did. but if there's anyone out there that does know what heppened to it ?
Dean
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Beighton Parish Church memorials. The WW1 Roll of Honour inside the church is in excellent condition but the WW2 plaque outside the church has been stolen.
I don't know if it was at the same time but a lot of the lead roof was stolen too.
Hi Cat631
thank's again for another contribution.
regard's
Dean
(hope the ww2 one can be found) !!!!!
Hi Cat631
thank's again for another contribution.
regard's
Dean
(hope the ww2 one can be found) !!!!!
There are several memorial plaques in Saint Georges Church on Mappin Street.The church is now flats and a lecture theatre owned by Sheffield University and kept in good condition.
Hi Biker, thank's for the tip, but i managed to get those about 3wk's ago.
on one of the memorial's ( St Luke's, use to be on South Street, Park) is an A.Dale.
my great grandfather was Albert Dale, killed in action 1918. He lived one street down from st luke's on granville street. not 100% sure it's him, but a good bet it is !
regards
Dean
Zeppelins
I have a boy's book full of Zeppelin true stories with Photos and one story is the bombing of Sheffield.
The book is called 'Zeppelin Adventures' if anyone is interested.
I know this does not aid Dean in his task of finding WW1 Sheffield sevicemen but I thought it may create some further interest in another side of the WW1.
Not so Happy Days!
Hi Biker, thank's for the tip, but i managed to get those about 3wk's ago.
on one of the memorial's ( St Luke's, use to be on South Street, Park) is an A.Dale.
my great grandfather was Albert Dale, killed in action 1918. He lived one street down from st luke's on granville street. not 100% sure it's him, but a good bet it is !
regards
Dean
I remembered seeing them a few years ago and several of the names could be family connections as they lived in that area.I realise that you have taken on a massive task but I wondered if you have any pictures of them that you could forward to me at stuartb47@yahoo.com. Thanks for your interest in this very important research
Hi Biker
no prob's.
i'll sort it now.
regard's
Dean
now sent Biker
Zeppelins
I have a boy's book full of Zeppelin true stories with Photos and one story is the bombing of Sheffield.
The book is called 'Zeppelin Adventures' if anyone is interested.
I know this does not aid Dean in his task of finding WW1 Sheffield sevicemen but I thought it may create some further interest in another side of the WW1.
Not so Happy Days!
Hi Pop
hope your ok mate
wouldn't mind a copy of that book, sound's great! where you get it Pop?
regard's
Dean
Dean
I was given the book when I was a lad in short trousers.
I'll fish it out and get the author's name, to see if I can locate a copy for you.
Bearing n mind it is only a boy's adventure book but it ias based on true life events.
Happy Days!
Hi Pop
thank's for that.
still love to see a copy.
regard's
Dean
Hi Dean,
Try this link to WW1 Cemetaries.
http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/ww1frenchextension/visenartois.htm
Scroll down to the bottom and you will see the picture and listing for my Great Uncle Harry. I have loads of info including his battalions war dairies.
My older brother and myself are going over to France in November to visit the memorial and pay our respects before attending the rememberance service at the Menheim Gate on the Sunday the 11th November.
Regards
Gary
Hi Gary,
i have PM'D you.
Regard's
Dean
Arfer Mo 20-09-2007, 14:23 Hi all
Re post 80:
passing the war memorial at Chapletown the other day, i now notice it is spick and span! cleaned and repointed. i gather then that the council? or some other body are on a maintainence spree of all war memorial's in sheffield, as every one i have visited recently is looking pristine.
anyone enlighten me?
my challenge to Chapletowner's still stand's!! Get it moved!
regard's
DeanHi Dean1 Re;the clean memorials , Iworked at the surveyors depot 1971 era, and just before the end of the financial year end if any cash allocated to the depot;was left , it was to be spent on various projects, the renovations of all memorials was one, and I got the job to visit and place orders to swd for any work required, so if this procedure has not been altered thats where to contact if any of your helpers see any defects. Good Luck in your worthy cause, Cheers Arthur.
Arfer Mo 20-09-2007, 14:36 Hi all
Re post 80:
passing the war memorial at Chapletown the other day, i now notice it is spick and span! cleaned and repointed. i gather then that the council? or some other body are on a maintainence spree of all war memorial's in sheffield, as every one i have visited recently is looking pristine.
anyone enlighten me?
my challenge to Chapletowner's still stand's!! Get it moved!
regard's
Dean Hi Dean1Should have added all in
the depot's juristriction.
thank's for the info Arthur
who ever it is doing the work, they have made a grand job of the memorial at St Mary's, Handsworth.
ANOTHER MEMORIAL STOLEN!!
i heard it first on the radio on monday, then the story appeared in last night's Star.
the memorial plaque to the men who laid down their live's for US, in the two world war's, has been stolen from St Mary the Virgin Church on Church lane, Beighton.
although just outside of my project area, it still suck's!!!
MORON'S.
Dean
TheRedWizard 20-09-2007, 21:14 Hi Dean,
Sorry I haven't found time to contribute a photo yet. I have got an interview with someone who watched the Zeppelin flying in from the east: we've got the copyright on it and it'd be fine for you to include it on the site.
Shall I try and zip it and email it across? The only unfortunate thing is that it's in a rubbish format as I recorded it before we got our wav recorder. Might pop around and record it again.
All the best, things are looking great!
TheRedWizard 20-09-2007, 21:18 yes it would be great if we could find the maps of where the zeppelins bombs dropped in sheffield, i do know there is a map for where the bombs dropped in second world war.
regards dean
I've got a copy of the WWII map if you want an image of it.
Hi Red
would love a copy of the Zeppelin interview, that would be great.
no worrie's about a memorial photo Red, there's load's still out there to cover!!
i'll be out again this weekend as ever!
i have seen a copy of the WW2 bomb map, but i havn't got a copy , so yes would like an image of that too please.
regard's
Dean
Blackbeard 02-10-2007, 12:47 Cornish works
I was at a meeting of The Hallamshire Historic Building Society last night and the Chair asked if anyone knew the whereabouts of the War Memorial at James Dixon & Sons - Cornish works Cornish street? It seems there used to be an annual commemoration service and wreath lying. The memorial has gone missing after the building was converted into flats but they would like the tradition to continue. Anyone any ideas??
While recording and photographing a few memorials for Dean, I have been pleasantly surprised to find some of them have been given a good clean. This one is tucked away in a corner of the playground in Tinsley Junior and Infants School and could do with a scrub. Havlng said that, when I asked permission to take a few pics, the lady in the school office informed me that recently, someone had been to examine the moss. Apparently, it's quite rare.
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Dean,
With reference to your project, I have one great uncle who was a WW1 casualty:
Harold Norton (Details to follow if you require them)
Walter Wildgoose (Ditto) not a direct relative but, husband of a relative.
I'll not post details in case you already have them. I'll post them to you or pm them to you if you require.
Regards,
Duffem
St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church ( Hanover Way)
Dean, have sent 2 emails on this.
Granma.
suesmith 07-10-2007, 18:41 Hi Dean
Do you know where the memorial that once stood in Holy Trinity Church Darnall went to when it was demolished?
We know that it was last seen mid 80's by quite a few people, including me, at the vicarage on Mather Road but was moved to somewhere, not sure where.
We have had confirmation from Nat Inventry War Memorials, Kelham Island and Weston Park Museum that it is not in there possesion but where did it go to?
If anyone has any suggestions of where to look next please PM me.
Sue
Hi all, apologies for the lack of responce to your post's, but i have been snowed under at that place they call work!!
Duffem's, please post Harold and Walter's detail's if you will.
Sue, im afraid i have no knowledge of where the memorial from Holy Trinity is now located. hope some one can help out here to try and locate it.
regard's
Dean
Do you want me to post them on the board or pm them please?
Duffem
Do you want me to post them on the board or pm them please?
Duffem
Hi Duffem
please PM me please
regards
Dean
Hi Dean !
I was searching for a family grave in Burngreave Cemetery the other day and came across a WW1 soldier's grave who had died in France
Here is the inscription if you haven't got his details carved on this military white gravestone¬
4278 C. Sergeant Major
GS Warneford
Machine Gun Corps (Int)
11th August 1916 Aged 25
'GREATER LOVE THAN THIS HATH NO MAN'
How poignant are those few words. There must be a story behind this tragic death as very few bodies were returned to be buried in the UK.
Does anyone know of this man's life?
Unhappy Days!
Insidestory 15-10-2007, 21:57 Hi Dean
I know you've got the Gen Cem down as being complete. Would you mind getting in touch though. We have a list of soldiers that we rely on when we get enquiries. It ranges from veterans of the Napoleonic wars and the Crimea to a number of soldiers who died at the Battle of the Somme. It would be good to double check this with you to see if we have anything missing, and vice versa.
I assume you've not including blitz victims in your survey of war dead ? We have several.
PM me, or you can ring us on 268 3486 weekdays
Regards
Sheffield General Cemetery Trust
hennypenny 15-10-2007, 22:14 Hi Dean !
I was searching for a family grave in Burngreave Cemetery the other day and came across a WW1 soldier's grave who had died in France
Here is the inscription if you haven't got his details carved on this military white gravestone¬
4278 C. Sergeant Major
GS Warneford
Machine Gun Corps (Int)
11th August 1916 Aged 25
'GREATER LOVE THAN THIS HATH NO MAN'
How poignant are those few words. There must be a story behind this tragic death as very few bodies were returned to be buried in the UK.
Does anyone know of this man's life?
Unhappy Days!
This is what is on the war graves commission website:-
Name: WARNEFORD, GEORGE IREDALE
Initials: G I
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Company Serjeant Major
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Unit Text: 56th Coy.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 11/08/1916
Service No: 4278
Additional information: Husband of Elsie Warneford, of 8, Argyle St., Mexborough, Rotherham.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: T4. "C." 41.
Cemetery: SHEFFIELD (BURNGREAVE) CEMETERY
During the First World War there were two substantial war hospitals in Sheffield, the Wharncliffe, in the Wadsley Asylum, and the 3rd Northern General, housed in 15 separate buildings. The city, a centre for war industry during the Second World War, suffered heavy enemy air-raids during the Blitz with 600 people killed in a single raid in December 1940. Sheffield (Burngreave) Cemetery contains scattered war graves of both wars. Behind the Cross of Sacrifice in plot JJ is a Screen Wall commemorating those First World War casualties whose graves could not be marked by headstones, most of them buried in the plot of ground immediately in front of it. In front of the Screen Wall are a number of Special Memorial headstones for Second World War casualties buried elsewhere in the cemetery whose graves could not be marked. In all, the cemetery contains 235 Commonwealth burials of the First World War and 57 from the Second.
Hi Hennypenny
Thanks for the info it is very interesting.
Look forward to seeing you on Sunday at the Geneaology Fair at Bradfield.
Happy Days!
Hi all
Pop, i have made 5 visits to record all the ww1 military graves, and personal headstone inscriptions at Burngreave, but i dont seem to have recorded George's headstone !!
any chance you have a grave reference or rough idea where his grave is so i can record it?
Henny Penny, thanks for the extra info.
Inside story, i will PM you.
regards
Dean
Blackbeard 17-10-2007, 07:05 Hi, do any of you have any information about
Name: COOPER, FRANK JOHN
Initials: F J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Army Veterinary Corps
Unit Text: Depot
Age: 34
Date of Death: 31/01/1917
Service No: SE/24748
Additional information: Son of Frank Cooper, of 28, Hallcar St., Sheffield.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Screen Wall. R1. "C." 29.
Cemetery: SHEFFIELD (BURNGREAVE) CEMETERY
Did he die in Sheffield??
I took the information from the CWGC database, I did not know about his death until my cousin turned up with his bronze death penny a few weeks ago
Thanks
Hi Blackbeard,
the SOLDIERS DIED GREAT WAR disc has Frank down as died at home.
wether he was wounded at the front and brought home and died i dont know.
a copy of his death cert would throw a lot more light on it, as seeing as he died at home the exact cause of death will be on there.
hope this help's
regards
Dean
hi again Blackbeard, just checked my photograph's and i have an image of the panel on the screen wall with Frank's inscription if you want a copy?
Blackbeard 17-10-2007, 07:29 Many thanks Dean, once again your help is much appreciated
Hi PopT.
Look forward to seeing you on Sunday at the Geneaology Fair at Bradfield
Also come and say "Hello" to us.
www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk
Regards
Tuppie.
Hi Dean 1
I do not know the reference number but the grave is easy to find.
It has a white military headstone same as the one's you see in France etc.
If you enter the cemetery from the Scott Road entrance, go forward and take the first right roadway.
There is a 90* bend turning left at the top.
The grave is about the 4th row from the roadway and about 25yds before you reach the bend on the right hand side of the roadway as you travel up the incline.
The headstone is in very good condition with a clear inscription.
The inscription is exactly how I wrote it on the earlier entry on this posting.
I hope you find it OK.
Happy Days!
Hi Pop,
thanks for the directions.
Dean
TheRedWizard 10-11-2007, 08:25 Hi Dean,
I was chatting in local studies yesterday and was shown a wonderful scrapbook with hundreds of the Sheffield men who died detailed in there, from the original newspaper reports. It was waiting for someone - I guess this may be you; if not, it would be a great addition to your research.
All the best,
Red
Hi Red,
yeah, the book is for me !
i 'discovered' this scrapbook months ago, and have been refering to it over the weeks.
the main interest in it is the photograph of Arnold Loosemoore VC, and his six brothers who all served during ww1. this i was able to pass on to one of Arnold's relatives in Devon last week, she was "over the moon" to receive a copy.
regards
Dean
TheRedWizard 10-11-2007, 18:56 Hi Red,
yeah, the book is for me !
i 'discovered' this scrapbook months ago, and have been refering to it over the weeks.
the main interest in it is the photograph of Arnold Loosemoore VC, and his six brothers who all served during ww1. this i was able to pass on to one of Arnold's relatives in Devon last week, she was "over the moon" to receive a copy.
regards
Dean
I bet she was chuffed to bits, you're really doing some amazing stuff with this research!
thanks for the comments Red.
the project grows daily !
just found another 500 or so sheffield men who served with the australians,canadians etc.
regards
Dean
These are a couple of names from a Sheffield scrap book,
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee164/pick110/cprlmacklean.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee164/pick110/rfmawilliams.jpg
Hi Retep, excellent material.
your source ?
regards
Dean
Hi Dean
Please see my thread below on Grenoside Post Office for details of a family member who was killed in WW1
Hi Retep, excellent material.
your source ?
regards
Dean
I have some scrap/autograph books with quite a few references to ww1 but these two are the only ones with name and reg.
Found another one and one of Sheffields finest,
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee164/pick110/chapmanlcpl-1.jpg
Hi Daven, i have Charles jnr in the data base, but thanks for the input and what a great photo.
Dean
Retep, brilliant bit of source material you have there.
Dean
seems like H. Chapman survived the war as he's not on my casualty list for the Sheffield Bn.
Hi Dean1
My great grandfather was kia 18.5.1915 aged 33 .not sure of the battle but his details are Private Harry Savage Service No 3/3391 1st Bn Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry . He is buried in Leige (Robermont) Cemetery Belgium. Grave Ref 13.
He lived in Martin Street Sheffield.
If anyone else has anymore info on him i would be very grateful.
KivWaHistory 14-12-2007, 07:23 Feel free to take any of the information from http://www.kivetonwaleshistory.co.uk/#sections/ourhistory/kivetonatwar/firstworldwar
and re-use it how ever you need. Let me know if you want any of the photos in hi-res without copyright identifiers.
John
Hi John, thank you for your very kind offer.
i will get back to you soon re the photos.
thanks again John
Dean
[QUOTE=gracie;2929806]Hi Dean1
My great grandfather was kia 18.5.1915 aged 33 .not sure of the battle but his details are Private Harry Savage Service No 3/3391 1st Bn Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry . He is buried in Leige (Robermont) Cemetery Belgium. Grave Ref 13.
He lived in Martin Street Sheffield.
If anyone else has anymore info on him i would be very grateful.[/QUOTE
Hi Gracie, thank you for sending in Harrys details, much appreciated.
1st KOYLI were part of 83rd Brigade, 28th Division. They landed in France in January 1915, then up to the Front. After lots of casualties at 2nd Ypres reinforcements were needed, and 1st KOYLI found themselves in Belgium. The reinforcement group was dissolved on the 19th of May, a day after Harry died.
hope this is of some help.
Dean
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