Does anyone have any old pictures of broomhall flats apart from the one outside the domino pub?

Don't have any piccies but my great grandma used to live there. I remember running up the ramp to her door. I think there was a sweet-shop beneath. I got locked in grannie's loo along with my brother.

That was an awful building IMO. Always had the smell of urine and disinfectant. And yet, curiously, I was sad to see the bugger bulldozed. Strange huh?

Yeah it was a pretty rough place, i lived there for about 10 years when i was young, it was a good place to play.

I remember there was a thread a few months ago, with a black-and-white picture of the Broomhall Flats , just before demolition (they were standing empty).

I will see if I can find the link to them, or alternatively, you could try "picture Sheffield" on the net. they have a wealth of pictures from drawings, in the 1800s to photographs from the 1850's onwards to virtually the present day.

PT

Thanks Plain Talker, would be V grateful if could find the link, i've had a good look through picture sheffield & cant seem to find any.

Gezmark, here you go, my ducks, I knew there was a photo on the forum somewhere...

this was from a thread called "Cinerama", back in May2004...
here's the URL

http://www.swineherd.free-online.co.uk/lostpubs/setfour/dominoa.jpg

this should bring up the picture I mentioned before, of the BHFlats standing empty, prior to their demolition, with the domino Pub standing in the foregrgound. (it's also been demolished, and is now student flats, called something daft, like "Domino House" or "Domino Point".)

Hope that helps...

PT

Thanks again Plain Talker but that one i already have & cant find anymore, if anyone as anymore there is a reward of £1000000!

Hi, i remember the flats, we lived on them for about 15yrs when i was a kid! remember the vere jolly nursery? the chippy and the newsagents was run by Fiona, a woman with a big wart/spot thingy on the end of her nose, reminded me of the witch in the wiz. of oz!! a bag of scraps please............ (free of course!)ahhhhhhh the good old days, wellington row was were we lived.i could go on and on.........

also i remember the schools, mrs lydamore was the headmistress at springfield infants and mr carter was the head at the juniors. my nan used 2 be the lollipop lady at the hanover crossing, on the dual carriageway, near the church,(mrs cartwright, anyone remember her...) she did it for years, sadly, she passed away, god rest :-((

the bin chutes were always "bin" set on fire too, wernt me guv, honest, also there was the Hills, the Elliots, the Kemptons, the Massers, oh yes, and can any one remember "the polish woman", she lived on the ground near the springfield juniors entrance..........

I used to live on Monmouth gardens across from viners, I also went to school with the hills & the Kempton's & the polish woman lived around the corner from the hills opposite the adventure playground, remember when that was first built, the monorail was cool but they removed it cause someone died on it I heard. I never went to Springfield school, don't remember the nursery but used to go to the chipy for scraps!

are they the ones built by shepards in the sixtys?if they are i worked on them putting in the windows couple of poor souls died on them when the precast concrete fell on them when they were erecting them.

I think they were built in the sixties, concrete jungle it was called.

Originally posted by gezmac
I used to live on Monmouth gardens across from viners, I also went to school with the hills & the Kempton's & the polish woman lived around the corner from the hills opposite the adventure playground, remember when that was first built, the monorail was cool but they removed it cause someone died on it I heard. I never went to Springfield school, don't remember the nursery but used to go to the chipy for scraps!

i think i remember the polish woman your on about if its the same one iim thinking she used to use the phone box across from the school i lived on the flats from july 82 -august 84 i was then rehoused to page hall:suspect: :suspect: :suspect:

Hate to sound thick, but where were the old flats? I've only lived in Broomhall 18 months, so am too new to remember them, but I can't picture where they might have been. Were they on the town side of the dual carriageway? I've always wondered what used to be there before they built the modern estates.

Only time I ever seen the polish woman was when she came out of her flat to shout cause kids used to always torment her which was bad but you know what kids are like. The flats are where the new estates are now, not to far from Devonshire green. I lived on there 1974 untill they were knocked down which i think might have been about 1984.

I guessed they must be there, thanks a lot for the info. I'm really interested in the history of Broomhall, but it's difficult to find out much! It's changed so much, with the flats built in the 60s, then replaced with the new houses; but then, you also have the old houses like the one I live in. If anyone has any info, I'd love to hear some history, especially from before the dual carriageway was built, if possible! :)

Originally posted by gezmac
Only time I ever seen the polish woman was when she came out of her flat to shout cause kids used to always torment her which was bad but you know what kids are like. The flats are where the new estates are now, not to far from Devonshire green. I lived on there 1974 untill they were knocked down which i think might have been about 1984.

It was a little later than 1984, Gez, when the flats were razed to the ground.

It was more 1986/7. The flats were still occupied in 1985, although they were increasingly unpopular by then: I knowit had to be about 85, because my mother did not pass away until nearly the end of 84, and my father was courting a woman who lived on there just over a twelve-month after that.

Most tenants had been moved out by about the end of '86, and I seem to recall they stood empty for a while, before they were demolished.

Because the flats were the "lightweight" prefabricated panel construction, the same building method as the Ronan Point Flats, in London (the ones which went up in a gas explosion) It was decreed that the flats should be "all-electric", to avert the danger posed by a high-pressure gas supply, which would be needed.

Mr PT was a tenant on the Broomhall flats, until about 1984, and he well recalls getting an electricity bill for the astounding amount of £400 for a SUMMER (!!!!) quarter.

the construction was cheap-and-nasty:- that was the "long-and-the-short " of it, and the under-floor heating system was poor, and uneconomical to run, at best. the metal window frames were ill-fitting and draughty, cancelling out what little heat the under-floor system could push out.

I don't think that there are many who lived on the development who weren't glad in some way to be shot of the flats. (i don't know what the flats were like for community spirit, etc.)

About the only thing that the flats had going for them, I think, was their proximity to town, being just a few hundred yards from the bottom of The Moor.

PT

Elyndys,

when the Picture Sheffield site is back working properly again ( www.picturesheffield.com ) which I fevently hope won't be too long, you can search for that area on there.

There are lots of pics on there of just about every area of Sheffield, including Broomhall.

PT

Yeah it was a right dump come to think of it & when I was getting a little older while living there I was glad to move. It's always good to remember where you came from though & the spirit was fantastic if you were from there if not you stood out like a sore thumb. There were bits of concrete falling of the building so the materials that were used must have been useless. I've lived all over Sheffield well in about 15 different areas & broomhall is the only place I haven't any photos of apart from the one outside the domino, suppose it will have to do. :mad:

The materials used in the Broomhall Flats were not so much substandard, as innapropriate for the UK climate, really.

That, coupled with the inevitable corner-cutting when the flats were being constructed was the cause of them being in such poor condition.

The material used was reinforced concrete precast blocks/slabs, which were bolted together.

Now, because of our damp climate, the metal reinforcing bars contained within the concrete became rusted, and expanded within the concrete, causing a phenomenon called "spalling". This is where the concrete fractures, and breaks away from the main block, exposing the metal rods. You can see an example of this, very plainly on the sills and ledges of the Park Hill Flats. The PHF are also reinforced concrete construction, and the same spalling has happened there. The construction method used was probably more suited to a dry, warm mediterranean climate.

Another contributing factor (as I have mentioned) was the sloppy construction. the slabs of concrete were supposed to be anchored together, securely, by a large number of bolts. Unfortunately, as happened during the construction of London's Ronan Point flats. the number of bolts-per-slab were skimped on.

Where there should have been 12 bolts, or more, per slab, there might only have been four, or six bolts, bearing the entire weight of these slabs. this is one of the reasons why Ronan Point collapsed, like playing cards, when the gas explosion happened there, back in the 1960s.

PT

Wow,
so when i come to build a house or block of flats i can count on you to help?

yea, the polish woman lived under the bit near the phone box on the corner. (smokey joe ...??)anyone remember im?
according to my grandad, the flats were bulldozed september '86 (i think thats not correct..??)
and it took about 2yrs to bring the lot down completely.
then there was the wooden ramp behind the shops, and the playgroound behind the nursery, oh and them big rocks in the middle near wellington and egerton. and an old bloke who only had 1 hand and drove a blue minx., oh yeas , and the flowers lived there too, remember them??

Yeah i remember them too, what high school did you go to?

this is my 4 th post, so i need a fifth to send a reply!!!
can u tell me about the flowers, i kinda new them a little!!

this is now my fifth, gezmac, i went to silverdale school, was born in 1970, lived on broomhall till around '84.

I never really knew them, just heard of them was one called Paul? Don't understand you need so many post's to reply, i've heard someone else on about that??

yeah, apparently you need to have posted 5 times b4 u can reply to private messages, somet to do with spam......
yeah, i knew paul, had a brother john, and a sister jayne!!
so tell me abit bout u

I used to live near the Harrison's D, M & k

yeah, i remember them, and the west's, but i dont think they lived on the flats!! we lived near thr holdens,, J, M and C

No they lived on the square, don't recall the Holdens

the holdens used to live on wellington row, next door to us and the kemptons, i think it was thier nan, lived on the other side to us

hi, i just want to thank the 2 kind gentlemen who have given me info on the old flats, Chris Todd, and Ian Canning.
hopefully i can copy the photo and have it enlarged, then get it posted on the net shortly.
Thanx again.
(whether or not they will read this post is not certain, but thanx again!)

Iremember it was full of ''people'' from the third world. HORRIFIC

Hi, just to say, i know have an aerial photo of broomhall flats, unfortunately, i have no way of uploading it onto my pc, so cannot post it on the net, if anyone has any ideas..........
(maybe some would like to borrow it to scan in on their pc to uplooad it ........?
email me john_p_flower@hotmail.com if you can help
:help:
:bigsmile:

managed to take a photo of the photo, if anyone would like a copy (or knows of somewhere to post it on the net for all to see) i can send a copy thru email

now uploaded 3 photos of broomhall flats for those who were interested!!

http://img.animeotaku.info/flats.bmp

http://img.animeotaku.info/broom.JPG

http://img.animeotaku.info/flats.JPG

wow! jonluvs...

I had forgotten how densely those flats were packed together!

That high aerial shot makes them look so crowded and forbidding!

Thanks for sharing those photographs with us!

PT

I agree Plain Talker, can't you just smell that cocktail of urine, vomit and dissinfectant?!

The design of the flats was so flawed, simply boxes plonked on top of each other. As I posted earlier, my great grandma lived in the Concrete Jungle in the seventies and I recall running up the ramp to her front door.

From what I can remember, her flat was quite nice, but fortunately being aged about 4 I can't quite remember what standard of living - if any - it offered.

Council housing and planning at its very worst, methinks.

Originally posted by jonluvsnique
now uploaded 3 photos of broomhall flats for those who were interested!!

http://img.animeotaku.info/flats.bmp

http://img.animeotaku.info/broom.JPG

http://img.animeotaku.info/flats.JPG

wow:) i can see my old flat there the first one on the left at the top:) :) :)

Originally posted by Elyndys
I guessed they must be there, thanks a lot for the info. I'm really interested in the history of Broomhall, but it's difficult to find out much! It's changed so much, with the flats built in the 60s, then replaced with the new houses; but then, you also have the old houses like the one I live in. If anyone has any info, I'd love to hear some history, especially from before the dual carriageway was built, if possible! :) Hi Elyndys.
My grandmother lived all her married life in the same house on Clarence Street, which is now the ring road. There were 4 or 5 crossroads between whee Waitrose now stands and the new flats at the top, and every crossroads had at least 1 and most had 2 or 4 pubs on the corners! My Gran lived in a corner house, with one room on each floor, and only the front door for access. To go to the outside toilet you had to walk 4 houses up the road and down a passageway into a large communal yard where there were two rows of lavatories back to back. She lived in that house until it was demolished to make way for the ring road, then moved over the way to Sunny Bank, to a house that was demolished after she died to make way for the little park between Sunny Bank and Ecclesall Road. My uncle lived with her, and worked all his life as a silversmith at Viners near where the dept of Work & Pensions building now stands. :)

Originally posted by Ousetunes
I agree Plain Talker, can't you just smell that cocktail of urine, vomit and dissinfectant?!. i dont remember this. iwas only a kid, but at least you could leave your front door open without the risk of getting burgled, how many estates WITHOUT some sort of securit boast this today. the best years of my life were spent on this estate

I remember Broomhall flats. I lived there from 1969 to 1979 from the age of 2 to 12. To me it was a giant playground. While the structure wasn't much to be desired, in between each square block of flats was somewhere where your imagination could run wild. Like the big wooden climbing frame in the middle (was this supposed to be a map of the flats?). We had such adventures as kids. I went to St Silas school & know all the families mentioned Hills, Masses, Kemptons & many more. We were the first family to occupy our flat on High Monmouth. If anyone remembers me or my family our surname is Hancock. Most may remember my older brother nicknamed Hank. We were famous on the flats for our vicious black & white collie dog.

i think there's one in stephen mcclarence's book of photos of sheffield. there's usually copies in waterstones.

steve once told me when he went to broomhall flats to take some pictures, a bloke came up and tried to take his camera, because he thought he was a spy from the dhss!

as a compromise, steve stood and opened the camera to destroy the film rather than lose his camera, which was an old worthless roll-film type but was a present off his dad.

Lived on there for about a year in the 70s, when we moved in there was a vile smell in the place which we put down to it being unoccupied for a while so had all windows open for ages, finally tracked it down to a used Sanitary towel in the cistern!

Moved out after me and brother in law set upon by about 15/20 blacks one night, they ran off after he was pushed through the glass in our front door slicing open his neck.

i cant believe there were so many flats!

i didnt even realise that there were ever flats there...

it is lovely to hear people reminiscing about the olden days - more stories pls!

Thanks empea for being the first person to refer to my childhood in the 70's as the olden days.
God I feel old now, I'm only 38. lol.

oops! soz! i err meant days before i lived in sunny sheff (this any better?!)

xx

Came across this thread by accident. My memories of the flats are this

1.the square
2.playing kick can caught
3. hot summers
4 bloody freezin winters
5 broken lifts
6. bouncing the lifts
7.the polish woman r.i.p(made her live hell)
8. the bins
9.growin up fast
10.apple scumpin

Hi, i remember the flats, we lived on them for about 15yrs when i was a kid! remember the vere jolly nursery? the chippy and the newsagents was run by Fiona, a woman with a big wart/spot thingy on the end of her nose, reminded me of the witch in the wiz. of oz!! a bag of scraps please............ (free of course!)ahhhhhhh the good old days, wellington row was were we lived.i could go on and on.........

I have just come across this thread. I also used to live on Wellington Row too. My mum lived there from them first being built to moving out just before they were demolished. We lived on the ground floor in the first maisonette just after the lift shaft.

We often used to go into the Washington pub.

We had some really happy and sad times whilst we lived there. Both myself and my sister got married whilst living there. Unfortunately my mum was made a widow whilst living there when my dad got killed in a car accident in 1974.

It was a really lovely place to live. We thought we had moved into a palace after living at Parkwood Springs in a 3 roomed back to back house and then a two bedroomed maisonette on Norfolk Park. There was a large front room, large kiitchen, a downstairs loo (very posh!), and three bedrooms (two upstairs and one downstairs - my bedroom!) plus a bathroom.

I know that my mum was very sad to leave Broomhall as the maisonette was really nice and the location was excellent, very convenient for shopping - all the shops on West Street, Division Street and of course easy access into town - no buses were needed just used to walk into town and also handy when on nights out as we could walk it back home.

I very often used to walk home in the evening after a night out, although I remember once having a scare when a car pulled up on Washington Street and asked if I was doing business - I was only 16 at the time and I was absolutely petrified - I'd never run home so fast!! Needless to say I avoided walking on Washington Road in the evenings after that.

Gezmark, here you go, my ducks, I knew there was a photo on the forum somewhere...

this was from a thread called "Cinerama", back in May2004...
here's the URL

http://www.swineherd.free-online.co.uk/lostpubs/setfour/dominoa.jpg

this should bring up the picture I mentioned before, of the BHFlats standing empty, prior to their demolition, with the domino Pub standing in the foregrgound. (it's also been demolished, and is now student flats, called something daft, like "Domino House" or "Domino Point".)

Hope that helps...

PT

Hi Plain Talker can't get that link to work, any ideas how I can? Cheers :)

Hi Plain Talker can't get that link to work, any ideas how I can? Cheers :)

that post was from early 2004, (almost 3 yrs ago) the site may no longer be "live", I linked to it, as an outside source, so I cannot tell you what's happeningthere. sorry, :(

I never knew these flats existed (I came to Sheffield in 1989 so a bit before my time) and as I'm kind of fascinated by stuff that's no longer there, these interest me. I can't work out exactly where they were though - can someone tell me what street/building is there now. I've even looked at the photo-links but can't get any bearings.
I'm also interested in what the inner ring road (St Mary's Gate/Arundel Gate etc) replaced - someone above mentioned houses where the "Waitrose" roundabout is now?? I also read somewere that Surrey St used to go all the way down to the bus station - true?

search "picturesheffield" for "napier st", Benson, there's a picture of a cobblers shop beside a bridge; that's where waitrose is now, and the Thai restaurant in the old bank.

also look for roundabouts, and the Lansdowne pub. they will show you what it was like there. (ooh and "view from st mary's church bramall lane" will also give you a nice aerial view of the area from about the 1930's/ 50s-there's three pic, of theat, looking up ecclesall, up the moor and along abbeydale IIRC)

Hope that helps? (other streets to search for are "pearl street", "Cliff street", "summerfield street" and "club garden road", which are nearby roads)

Thanks PT - can't see no cobblers shop or view from St Mary's, but am I right in thinking that the flats ran down the side of Hanover Way, between there and Fitzwilliam Street?

I lived at the Fitzwilliam Street side of Broomhall Flats. I used to get off the bus on West Street at the top of Fitzwilliam Street and walk down Fitzwilliam Street. We were also opposite Washington Street. As you came down Fitzwilliam Street there was two companies Surmanco (who made surgical equipment) and on the corner Ernest Hill.

Hope this helps.

Thanks PT - can't see no cobblers shop or view from St Mary's, but am I right in thinking that the flats ran down the side of Hanover Way, between there and Fitzwilliam Street?

yes they sort of were on a square, of Fitz' st, across by ernest hills, doen the dual carriageway and back along milton st ish see where the red circle is on this map
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=434750.046005379&Y=386750.727952571&width=700&height=400&gride=434771.046005379&gridn=386949.727952571&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=GB&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=true&zm=0&scale=5000&up.x=288&up.y=6

I will have another search on Picture sheffield, and see if I can find the pics for you, I deffo know there is one of napier st... back later

ok, the housing on napier st, (back of old ecclesall co-op) looked like this:-

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s18222

if it won't open the picture itself, you can search by pic number on the site.
this is the number of the picture to search for it s18222

Thanks PT - can't see no cobblers shop or view from St Mary's, but am I right in thinking that the flats ran down the side of Hanover Way, between there and Fitzwilliam Street?

here is the pic, I said "cobbler shop" and I was almost right, it was a bootmaker (!!!! :rolls eyes: )
http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s10660

ok you can see the housing behind the gap in the bridge, the building on the very right of the pic as you look at it, is the thai restaurant, now (was a bank) the cobblers:rolleyes: bootmakers is where the car park is directly behind the restaurant just before the waitrose building

Thanks PT for your sterling research work. I find all this fascinating. The trouble is, answers just lead to more questions (in my case :thumbsup: ). So, were St Mary's Gate, Hanover Way, Furnival Gate, Arundel Gate etc all there as streets before and just widened for the dual carriageway we have now, or were some created by pushing through old streets and buildings as the new section of the inner ring road has been around Shalesmoor and Nursery Street?
Also, when was the bottom of the Moor blocked off by the (Manpower Services?) building, and, before that, could you drive straight down the Moor and onto London Road?

yes, before manpower was built, london road and the moor were almost one continuous line, with a roundabout, on which stood the bank which is now the Thai restaurant, (will have to look if there s a piccy of that)but the manpower was built approx 30 yrs ago. The planner's original idea was to have the traffic continue to drive in a straight line through an arch/ tunnel (now covered, and built across) but it was decided that the security risk was too great, to have traffic driving through a government building. so it was scapped.

the section of the Moor, in the 1970s (from where the buses cross cumberland st, up to pinstone st) was a proper road, which had buses running along it right up until the very late 1970s. it was pedestrianised just before I left school. (so it must have been late '78 ish?) there was a bus stop right outside Woolworths(!!??!!) where I used to catch my bus to school of a morning.

if you "picture sheffield" (the SF quivalent of the act of googling :hihi: lol lol) the bottom end of norfolk st, and the old pond street, You'll see how much was demolished for the underpasses and dual carriageways along eyre st/ arundel gate etc. Although, to be fair, a heck of a lot of the buildings in the city centre were "Coventrised" during the blitz/ wwII, particularly the bottom end of the moor area, round where Atkinsons etc are now.

I'll see what I can find on Picture sheff, and do a linky, later. (also, have a peek in your library/ the central library's Local studies library at the shedloads of "old-sheffield books" with the pictures of bygone sheffield, some of them do comparisons of "then-and-'now'" - fascinating stuff!)

here you are, this

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s22561

is atkinsons department store, before the pedestrianisation of the moor..

(more to follow)

Grateful thanks to Picture sheffield:-

view showing construction work going on in city centre of Arundel Gate; Flat Street and Pond Street, right
http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s14387

Construction of Arundel Gate at Norfolk Street

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s14388

Elevated view of Sycamore Street area looking towards Milk Street during the construction of Arundel Gate

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s14400

this is the very bottom of Ecclesall Road including Nos 16/20, A. Shapero Ltd, House Furnishers; No 10/14, J.A. Stacey Ltd., Motor Car Agents; Nos 6/8 & 10/14, W.E. Franklin (Sheffield) Ltd., Patent Carpet Beating Works

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s15170

Amazing stuff - I'm living on PictureSheffield at the moment!! I think it's all the more fascinating as I wasn't here when it was like this. Saying that, there's always been major (re)development in my time here - Meadowhall, Student Games facilities, Supertram etc etc. Isn't it strange that almost as soon as something is built, you can't remember what was there before.

Thanks again PT for your research and memories.

benson,

Isn't picsheff a fantastic source?

I've gone through it, and through it, and thought on so many of those pics "My God! I remember being at that place when ______ happened"

or "OOh i remember going there with ______!!"
or Ahhh, so THAT'S what _____ street looked like when my grandma lived there!" etc.

It really is the most wonderful resource.

Funnily enough, at work, yesterday, I was chatting to an elderly lady customer, about old cinemas, and certain palces in sheffield. I had the computer on, and was able to bring this site up and show her the places she was talking about.

She was absolutely rapt! (I think it made her day!)

i lived on there as a kid aswell it was a rite jungle we use to play knock door run with my brother and sister when we got bored i remember the old polish women aswell and the chippy we lived on high monmouth on the end i remember my brother falling over the doorstep and banging his head

Yeah it was a pretty rough place, i lived there for about 10 years when i was young, it was a good place to play.

I never found it a rough place to live. We moved in there when it was brand new (I think it was about 1967) and mum didn't move out until 1986 when they were being pulled down. We all loved living there - it was one of the best places we ever lived. Mum is always saying that she wished that she was still living there.

the holdens used to live on wellington row, next door to us and the kemptons, i think it was thier nan, lived on the other side to us

I lived on Wellington Row too - no.13. First maisonette under the archway. We used to go into the Washington on Wellington Road quite regularly.

I work right next to where Broomhall Flats were. They were emptied in about '86 and fenced off, as the council didn't have the money to either refurbish them or demolish them. I have a couple of pictures of them, which you can have. Might take a while for me to find 'em though. Ok if I PM you with them?

wow what memories that brings back we used to live on mamouth on the top floor boy we used to love playing on the park in the middle of the flats cant remember what yr it was i think it was mid eighties i remeber getting stuck in the lift with my brother and sister i was sat on the floor playing with a sindy dolls :hihi: also remeber the rubbish chutes boy they stunk

spent a lot off good times growing up on the flats me and all my brothers..THE HILLS..

Good to see that you're all well... different breed those of us that were dragged up in the concrete jungle.

I remember quite a lot about the flats and it's brilliant to read all the posts and remind me of those things again:)

I was the youngest of the HILL family so i can't be blamed for many of the problems that my big brothers may have caused:) It seems like a life that belonged to someone else but i agree with what others have wrote... it was a massive playground, i can't ever remember being bored.

I tried a few of the links to pictures and they didn't work... if you put up pics, could you please just check that they still work so that i can check them out... thank you!!!!

I tried a few of the links to pictures and they didn't work... if you put up pics, could you please just check that they still work so that i can check them out... thank you!!!!

some of the links are very old, dezill, so it might not be helped that you can't access them :(

I lived on these flats. Was just thinking of them just last night. The rooms were massive plenty of space to play. Used to go play on the green area behind the fitzwiliam block and also were the electicity generators across from The Wellington pub at footie with me Dad. I dont remember em looking ugly at the time but thinking back they were very grey bit like a prison. Loved living there tho and wouldnt mind doing so now if they were still there.

I lived on these flats. Was just thinking of them just last night. The rooms were massive plenty of space to play. Used to go play on the green area behind the fitzwiliam block and also were the electicity generators across from The Wellington pub at footie with me Dad. I dont remember em looking ugly at the time but thinking back they were very grey bit like a prison. Loved living there tho and wouldnt mind doing so now if they were still there.
I remember my mum making us a guy and us kids sitting outside the generator guying.
Gosh, looking back now its about 25 years ago, still remember it like it was yesterday!
We used to make a fortune, and it was a proper guy, not like the kids make these days, a lot of time and effort went into it.
Loved them flats.

hi, here are some more pics of broomhall flats http://www.flickr.com/photos/noiseheatpower/

I never lived in the flats myself but my gran lived in exeter place ( across the road) and I remember driving past them on the way to visit her

I remember my mum making us a guy and us kids sitting outside the generator guying.
Gosh, looking back now its about 25 years ago, still remember it like it was yesterday!
We used to make a fortune, and it was a proper guy, not like the kids make these days, a lot of time and effort went into it.
Loved them flats.

Me too bobs, doesn't seem like 2 mins ago. God how time flies. My family left in '79 into a brand new house with big garden and even tho our flat didnt have one I much prefered the flats. We had a massive verander which in summer me Mum would fill with water & we paddled in it.

Many thanks to Plain Talker for her documentary work--I remember the flats although I never lived there, or even close to them. A builder friend of mine, a Sheffielder although he now lives elsewhere, told me he worked on the demolition and one man was fataly squashed betweeen two of the concrete slabs when a whole set of them collapsed in domino fashion--everyone ran for their loves but one chap was not so fortunate. It was a very messy death, but I suppose very fast and possibly painless.

Many thanks to Plain Talker for her documentary work--I remember the flats although I never lived there, or even close to them. A builder friend of mine, a Sheffielder although he now lives elsewhere, told me he worked on the demolition and one man was fataly squashed betweeen two of the concrete slabs when a whole set of them collapsed in domino fashion--everyone ran for their loves but one chap was not so fortunate. It was a very messy death, but I suppose very fast and possibly painless.

I seem to recall my dad speaking of somthing like that when I was little, I think someone was crushed as they were built also. My dad was a fireman and attended the incident

Hi

I saw that you were looking for images around the domio pub.
I'm also looking for photos of the area, old and new. If you managed to get any, would I possibly be able to use them as well??

Thanks

Hi Algy,
Glad to see someone has mentioned Clarence Street. What memories do you have of the road. My Great Great Grandparents had a beerhouse on there,I was searching info for ages for the name of their pub but then found out it was a beerhouse which could mean they just sold beer etc from their front room. I know there was a lot of pubs on there but the only name I've come up with up to now is Lincoln city arms,on the corner of Clarence Street and Hodgson Street.There's a painting of this pub by George Cunningham,shown in his book called "By George", if you're interested, it shows H.Lazenby fruit shop next door.My G.G.Grandparents address was 109 and their name was Dunn. I believe Clarence Street was a long road and would like to know how far 109 was from Lincoln City Arms and I'd like to know if there are any photos and if you could tell me the names of the other pubs. Many Thanks

I've only just fallen over this site by accident and was gob smacked to find interest in Broomhall. I lived here for many years and was upset by the news that we were to leave there and move to another area of Sheffield. (Never forgiven my parents for that)
We lived on High Fitzwilliam opposite the Wellngton pub, all us kids used to go in there to get sweets by knocking on a little window at the side of the bar. The Landlord as I remember was always a miserable sod !
Great place to be when you're a kid, all the hidey places and adventures we all had. Brings back wonderful memories !!!:)

I lived on Wellington Row which was also opposite Washington Pub on Wellington Street.

I moved from there in 1972 when I got married. My mum lived there until 1986when she was 'forced' to move out.

We were in a ground floor maisonette and my bedroom was on the ground floor next to the kitchen (could sneek in and out through the bedroom window without the parents knowing! :hihi:)

I have lots of fond memories of the flats both living and visiting.

didn't live on the flats, but a lot of my friends did. We lived on William street nr the Hanover pub. Used to go to the Domino pub even though wasn't strickly of age to do so. the flats may have been an eyesore and they were poorly made but a lot of the familys that moved onto them came from far worse places and loved living on there, i know we had some great times there when we used to go babysitting, most people looked out for others, it did have a sense of community. Easy for people who never lived on or nr them to judge.

I've only just fallen over this site by accident and was gob smacked to find interest in Broomhall. I lived here for many years and was upset by the news that we were to leave there and move to another area of Sheffield. (Never forgiven my parents for that)
We lived on High Fitzwilliam opposite the Wellngton pub, all us kids used to go in there to get sweets by knocking on a little window at the side of the bar. The Landlord as I remember was always a miserable sod !
Great place to be when you're a kid, all the hidey places and adventures we all had. Brings back wonderful memories !!!:)
I lived underneath you on Fitzwilliam Row. Me Dad used to go in The Washington and my mum worked there doing the meals. The landlord was called Bill and his wife Barbara. Many happy times we did have on the flats :)

I also lived on Broomhall Flats
Egerton Gardens!

I love reading about old Sheffield and this post is fascinating reading with the pictures.

It got me thinking when people have mentioned about the Broomhall flats ending up as being not very well constructed and certain undesirable smells etc, does anyone else feel that in so many years time that the West One development will end up the same? West One seems to be on such a similar scale and at the moment all super-modern etc.

I love reading about old Sheffield and this post is fascinating reading with the pictures.

It got me thinking when people have mentioned about the Broomhall flats ending up as being not very well constructed and certain undesirable smells etc, does anyone else feel that in so many years time that the West One development will end up the same? West One seems to be on such a similar scale and at the moment all super-modern etc.

I have said that very thing, many times, on here, that these "apartments" will be the slums of the future.

yes, the flats were poorly constructed... yes the heating bills were astronomical, even in summer... but, as lizaD said, there was a good sense of community, like on Hyde Park Flats.

Broomhall flats was my stomping ground from the age of 2 to 12, leaving in 1980.
This place was absolutely massive, excellent for hiding and you could ride your bike for hours without ever being on the ground floor.Loads of playing areas,adventure playground next to Springfield School. I lived at monmouth gardens then up to High Headford, i remember some of the names that have been mentioned in this thread and i'm sure my last name or my brothers M,D,A Bramhall may jog some memories.Always wondered what happened to the flats after leaving Sheffield, also remember hanging outside Viners and waiting for the steam to come up from the street grates and just laughing my head off as i stood over the grates.

i use3d to live on a block of flats the same as the broomhall ones in nottingham in 1972-1974. called balloon wood. i was only a kid and they were massive and lots of places to hide etc. both the sheffield ones and the nottingham ones were built by the same company and they were both pulled down at the same time bad construction etc . i always remeber the ones in nottingham as they has 2 bedrooms and bathroom as you walked in the door then downstairs was the other bedroom and kitchen and lounge with a massive balcony. i had friends who lived on the ones in sheffield and i noticed howe much the same they were.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamiewoodward/2640391544/

did anyone get stuck in the lifts they where always breaking down

Well to be honest, i confess 30 years later that i was one of the kids that would jam up the lift doors to myself and others, seemed funny at time.

Millsands: the room set up you gave was the same as what we used to live in, me and my brothers would be in the top part of the flat and dad had his bedroom in the lower section,seemed a decent size place.

Well to be honest, i confess 30 years later that i was one of the kids that would jam up the lift doors to myself and others, seemed funny at time.

Millsands: the room set up you gave was the same as what we used to live in, me and my brothers would be in the top part of the flat and dad had his bedroom in the lower section,seemed a decent size place.

you bad lad:D.....

i bet i know you all .do you remember the domino bar lady. angie ..val ...jean.. anne.. xx

any one remember . fiona at the newsagents/gt news/..?

I Loved Broomhall. Xx

Well to be honest, i confess 30 years later that i was one of the kids that would jam up the lift doors to myself and others, seemed funny at time.

Millsands: the room set up you gave was the same as what we used to live in, me and my brothers would be in the top part of the flat and dad had his bedroom in the lower section,seemed a decent size place.
i think they were the same as the ones in nottingham and when i went to visit friends on broomhall i wanted one of the flats there but ended up on parkhill. i am just laughing at you messing with the lifts there as i did the same to the ones in nottingham

All i remember of the shops was buying 2 blackjacks or fruit salad sweets for a penny and that i'd have to save all my weeks pocket money to get a count dracula lolly. Money was made by getting the empty pop bottles from the workers at Viners across the road and trading them in for cash at the shop then we would go next door to the chippy and get a bag of scraps for nowt.I was to young to go into the domino but it didn't stop us sitting and messing about on the garage roof that was opposite the shops.

skutch. is your name mick

No, but my dad is

I have lived on Broomhall flats twice the first time for 10 years 1971-81 and then 1983-85 approx. I have some photos of my daughters playing on the flats, I lived on Egerton Row & High Cavendish the kids went to the nursery there and to St Silas school.
The flats were built of the wrong material and needed to come down but during my first period of living there it had a brilliant atmosphere and people looked out for each other it was a real 'community'.
I was involved through The Broomspring centre and local Tenants group when what was going to happen to the flats was under discussion. When I visit that area it looks Soooo different its hard to believe I am in the same place!!

[QUOTE=Skutch;4021443]No, but my dad is[

does your dad know jean ..?

i know your dad .thinking back he looked liked freddie mercury. but he was a nice guy .and iam sure he still is tell him i have seen chuck.. his friend back then in the 70s.
loverly times.x

Broomhall flats was my stomping ground from the age of 2 to 12, leaving in 1980.
This place was absolutely massive, excellent for hiding and you could ride your bike for hours without ever being on the ground floor.Loads of playing areas,adventure playground next to Springfield School. I lived at monmouth gardens then up to High Headford, i remember some of the names that have been mentioned in this thread and i'm sure my last name or my brothers M,D,A Bramhall may jog some memories.Always wondered what happened to the flats after leaving Sheffield, also remember hanging outside Viners and waiting for the steam to come up from the street grates and just laughing my head off as i stood over the grates.

Skutch
Did you move to Clackton?
if so i think we knocked around together?

There are now some pic of the flats on

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl

i use3d to live on a block of flats the same as the broomhall ones in nottingham in 1972-1974. called balloon wood. i was only a kid and they were massive and lots of places to hide etc. both the sheffield ones and the nottingham ones were built by the same company and they were both pulled down at the same time bad construction etc . i always remeber the ones in nottingham as they has 2 bedrooms and bathroom as you walked in the door then downstairs was the other bedroom and kitchen and lounge with a massive balcony. i had friends who lived on the ones in sheffield and i noticed howe much the same they were.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamiewoodward/2640391544/

I have just come across this site about the old Broomhall Flats and seeing your entry really stirred a memory for me.
I lived at Broomhall from 1969 to 1973 and this time was quite traumatic for me and my marriage.
In 1974 I went to work in a Steel Foundry in Hertfordshire and I think it was about twelve years later I was back in Sheffield for some reason or other, anyway I was going back to Hertford on a Sunday afternoon by train but there was some problems with the rail system to St. Pancras and for some reason the train from Sheffield was diverted to Nottingham.
Because of the delays I had a few drinks in the Buffet in Sheffield and when the train got going I fell asleep.I was awoken when the train stopped,not at a station but just outside the flats at Nottingham the same as Broomhall!
Well it must have been the effects of being tired or a few drinks,but I thought I was in a trance or something, I was back at the Broomhall flats.
For a few moments I was in a panic I didn't know where I was or what had happened, I was in a time warp or something!
It wasn't until the train started to move again that I realised what was going on. The experience gave me quite a stir.Very scary!

The houses before the flats were built were condemned around 1960,
Most of the houses were known as 'back to back't they had one room downstairs one bedroom and an attic.The toilets were in the backyards and shared with at least one other family,
They were occupied with large families .How they managed beats me!
There were lots of little shops and pubs in the area.There was a little shop on Bath street next to Viners run by a lady called Alice Froggat/Hudson .She was born in that house in 1895 and ran the shop after her mother died until the houses came down in the early 60's

anymore pics on this place anyone, especially the insie of the flats.

anymore pics on this place anyone, especially the insie of the flats.
Hiya hun did you look on picturesheffield.com? Put in search Broomhall Flats and theres some there. I have some of us as kids inside our flat but you cant see much.

i miss the old flats and the domino,great people and times ,lived there from 67 to 82,high egerton,i still see quite a few of the lads and characters from there,john hil,ronnie harris,browny ,bob heathcote, bob anderson,havent seen chuck for a while but see their steve now and again,bring back the domino!!

yes it would be great if only ..

i miss the old flats and the domino,great people and times ,lived there from 67 to 82,high egerton,i still see quite a few of the lads and characters from there,john hil,ronnie harris,browny ,bob heathcote, bob anderson,havent seen chuck for a while but see their steve now and again,bring back the domino!!

My Nannan worked at The Domino:) We lived on Fitzwilliam Row from 70-79ish

she'll have served me with the best drink in sheffield, a pint of wards,nectar,bless her,

what did they call your nan loopylass...?

she'll have served me with the best drink in sheffield, a pint of wards,nectar,bless her,
Lol i fink she cleaned it... the pub tht is not the beer.

what did they call your nan loopylass...?
Beatty Pearson Jenny:)

i used to live on broomspring lane and went to broomspring school till 1966, the houses were in yards with outside toilets, we used to keep a parrafin lamp lit in the winter to stop the pipes from freezing. i remember when blackjacks and fruit salads were 4 for a penny. remember the circus coming to town set up on what is devonshire green now. i used to go to glossop road baths for swimming lessons on a wednesday then coming home and having tomato soup. happy times.

i cant recall her name.but i bet i will know
here..do you remember who the landlord was then ..

i cant recall her name.but i bet i will know
here..do you remember who the landlord was then ..
i dont know but my mum prob will. im sure she cleaned for them aswell. my mum used to work in the newagents there too. she had really ginger hair then. did you go to springfield?

I took these around 1987. Can't remember exactly. Domino Pub in the foreground. In the days you could when you could get a real pint of Wards, made in Sheffield.

Flats 1 (http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/lostrider/domino.jpg)

Flats 2 (http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/lostrider/dom2.jpg)

wot a shame .iworked there a few years.my children went to springfield.

I wa bout 15 wen we lived on broomhall an i loved it, we lived at at no:1 Thomas Gardens just in front of us was a circle play area were we`d hang with mates,lived with my mum an dad and my uncle Tom he was always in the bookies, my parents used ro work with the homless at Beth an Conway House witch was ideal as was just up the road, was a great place to live.

the concrete slabs for the flats were made on what is now devonshire green there was an accident there when a tower crane came down killing the driver

I lived at 13 headford row n remember the polish woman n her daughter all u could hear was her shouting at her n hitting her hard,they were good time on the flats,my nan used to work with fiona in the newsagents and l8er my auntie worked there when her friend bought it,we moved in 85 just after my grandad died,l8er on we did a school project bout broomhall which would have bin around 87-88 would b great 2 hear frm anybody who remembers me im jason oadley remember 1 thing neva 4get where u come frm

i also went 2 silverdale left in 89 remember the flowers john and paul i still c 1 of em about there on facebook i lived 13 headford row good times

I Loved Broomhall. Xx

do u remember my nan shirley oadley she worked in the sweet shop with fiona

yes i think i do although i cannot put a face to her.do you remember jowitts that lived on monmouth then moved to broomspring row .who are you then jayblabe ..

yeah, i remember them, and the west's, but i dont think they lived on the flats!! we lived near thr holdens,, J, M and C

i remember the harrisons moved on chippinghouse road with em i was m8s with john roach, and a kid named julian and andy who live in the corner house of edgerton gardens i remember the wests think i used to knoxck about wiv em can also remember the holdens i seem 2 think i lived at 13 headford row ne body remember the billards or china?

yes i think i do although i cannot put a face to her.do you remember jowitts that lived on monmouth then moved to broomspring row .who are you then jayblabe ..

hiya im jason oadley who r u?the name rings a bell

robert debbie kathryn.jowitt.. paul . alan bennet. iam jean used to work at domino

cant place ur jason ..

cant place ur jason ..

my mum remembers the jowitts my great grandad lived round the corner mick quirke he was always in the domino wwe used to play footy outside sat dinner with workers frm the area

yea remember mick luv . loverly days remember me to him..x

I lived underneath you on Fitzwilliam Row. Me Dad used to go in The Washington and my mum worked there doing the meals. The landlord was called Bill and his wife Barbara. Many happy times we did have on the flats :)
Barbara died a couple of months ago.

sorry to here that kidorry.it was nice in washington.bill was bit of a misery ..oh bless .x

yea remember mick luv . loverly days remember me to him..x

he passed away not long after moving of the flats,but he could b an old rat bag at time,but i used to taument his life out

oh so sorry to here that luv.nobody wanted to move off flats. we all loved it on there ..xx

ye we had good times on there still speak 2 people who lived on there most r on facebook aswell

do u remember my nan shirley oadley she worked in the sweet shop with fionaMy mum worked in the sweet shop in the 70's

Barbara died a couple of months ago.Oh dear thats sad. The last time I saw her was at my Dads funeral in 2004:sad:

My mum worked in the sweet shop in the 70's

what is your mums name?my nans name was shirley oadley,she passed away in 95

what is your mums name?my nans name was shirley oadley,she passed away in 95Her names Janet Pearson.

Her names Janet Pearson.

the name rings a bell,does she remember my nan,where did u live on the flats

the name rings a bell,does she remember my nan,where did u live on the flatsI will ask her when I see her. Yep we lived on Fitzwilliam Row until 1979/80.

Broomhall flats was my stomping ground from the age of 2 to 12, leaving in 1980.
This place was absolutely massive, excellent for hiding and you could ride your bike for hours without ever being on the ground floor.Loads of playing areas,adventure playground next to Springfield School. I lived at monmouth gardens then up to High Headford, i remember some of the names that have been mentioned in this thread and i'm sure my last name or my brothers M,D,A Bramhall may jog some memories.Always wondered what happened to the flats after leaving Sheffield, also remember hanging outside Viners and waiting for the steam to come up from the street grates and just laughing my head off as i stood over the grates.


Hey Skutch, I know this reply is about 2 years later but thought I'd respond anyhow, I remember your brothers well, M being the oldest then D then A. A was in my year, I remember him leaving to live with his mum on the coast if my memory serves me right, I can't remember you though, I thought it was just the 3 of them, hope you guys are all doing well.

Hey Skutch, I know this reply is about 2 years later but thought I'd respond anyhow, I remember your brothers well, M being the oldest then D then A. A was in my year, I remember him leaving to live with his mum on the coast if my memory serves me right, I can't remember you though, I thought it was just the 3 of them, hope you guys are all doing well.
I remember a Paul Bramhall.

I used to live on Monmouth gardens across from viners, I also went to school with the hills & the Kempton's & the polish woman lived around the corner from the hills opposite the adventure playground, remember when that was first built, the monorail was cool but they removed it cause someone died on it I heard. I never went to Springfield school, don't remember the nursery but used to go to the chipy for scraps! I was born at jessops hospital and was brought up on broomhall flats i went to vere jolly nursery.They were the best days of my life ,i was there that day on the adventure play ground when that old woman was killed on the monarail she'd come straight from the wellington pub she was in a mess.My name is Lee Fauvel all my family lived on there we lived at 10 gel row .

I used to live on Monmouth gardens across from viners, I also went to school with the hills & the Kempton's & the polish woman lived around the corner from the hills opposite the adventure playground, remember when that was first built, the monorail was cool but they removed it cause someone died on it I heard. I never went to Springfield school, don't remember the nursery but used to go to the chipy for scraps!my name is Lee fauvel i went to vere jolly nursery then springfield school all my family lived on broomhall flats most of my family worked at viners,i was there the day that lady died on the monarail she had come sraight out of the wellington pub sraight on to the adventure play groung me and my cousins saw her die it just stuck in my mind i dont think i will ever forget that poor lady.

I and my family lived on the flats for years they were the best days of my life.My name is Lee fauvel all my cousins lived on there both sets off grandparents it was a real comunity spirit,every summer we would have the carnival just across the rd on the square.If anyone remebers allan jones carl pearce nichola pearce brett johanne and loraine pearce these are all my cousins,then there was my mum and dad tom Fauvel and Jenny fauvel it would be great to hear from people who new them or me.

where was these flats, were they round where west1 is now?

where was these flats, were they round where west1 is now?

They were on the land opposite west one, Ian, where the new low-rise flats and houses are, on the other side of Broomhall Street.

Ernest Hill's factory (surgical blades mainly) was where the bottom corner of W1 is, at the junction of Broomhall St and Fitzwilliam street. There was a chapel (?Fitzwilliam Chapel?) and a fairly good pub further up, before you get to the "old" shops above W1.

They were on the land opposite west one, Ian, where the new low-rise flats and houses are, on the other side of Broomhall Street.

Ernest Hill's factory (surgical blades mainly) was where the bottom corner of W1 is, at the junction of Broomhall St and Fitzwilliam street. There was a chapel (?Fitzwilliam Chapel?) and a fairly good pub further up, before you get to the "old" shops above W1.

The flats were directley behind west st and glossip rd baths .I know the swimming baths arn't there now,i think there flats and pub now.Lee Fauvel

I lived there as a kid when I was 2-3 years old.I lived with my nan on Gell Street(or Gell Row?) It was the first block next to Hanover Way and she lived on the bottom so she had a garden at least.I visited alot during the late 70's as a kid,I remember the chippie as my nan always went there. My memories are abit hazy but I remember her flat well going to a nursery around there.

I lived on Victoria St from 77 to 81 and went to 'Springfield School' all my friends lived on the flats. I remember the 'Harrisons' and 'Wayne and Darren Wests' i used to knock about with 'Steven Dodds' (Doddsy) during the Mod revival and play on the adventure playgound.
Also hung round with 'Darren Wrigly'
I remember the 'Kemps' and 'Alan Bulby' he had a chopper bike like mine and we used to ride round the flats together.
The flats were rough but a great place to play as a kid when it rained. I remember pressing the lift button so it 'bounced' at ground and went back up.
Also watching the 'prossies' on havalock sq and counting 'jonnies' we could find.
ahh happy days

wow what memories that brings back we used to live on mamouth on the top floor boy we used to love playing on the park in the middle of the flats cant remember what yr it was i think it was mid eighties i remeber getting stuck in the lift with my brother and sister i was sat on the floor playing with a sindy dolls :hihi: also remeber the rubbish chutes boy they stunk

You know what I have a feeling i used to know you. I lived their around 84 as I remeber watching return of the jedi at the cinema when I lived in sheffield. The only reason why I think I knew you is because i remember a girl I used to play with who owned a big sindy house and she lived on the top of monmouth I think.

Don't know what made me look up the old broomhall flats I only lived their a short time before moving back to Birmingham. I would have been 10 then, now I feel so old.

did anyone get stuck in the lifts they where always breaking down

You could slide a twig in the bottom of the doors as they closed causing them to get stuck. I seem to remember this being a fun activity. I remember one time my and a friend i had there (Shaun maybe?) kept playing with the lift and the milkman got so annoyed he gave us 50p to get some "spice". When we told the other kids they didn't believe us as they said he wouldn't call sweets spice.

my name is Lee fauvel i went to vere jolly nursery then springfield school all my family lived on broomhall flats most of my family worked at viners,i was there the day that lady died on the monarail she had come sraight out of the wellington pub sraight on to the adventure play groung me and my cousins saw her die it just stuck in my mind i dont think i will ever forget that poor lady.

Why do I remeber this? When did this happen, I didn't remember it until I read your post but now I seem to be able to remebember it or maybe I was told about it when I lived there. It's odd because i can picture a crowd of people gathering around and an ambulance turning up and just standing there watching it.


Spingfield school, that had that victorian thing going on IIRC. They used to sell dundee biscuits at break, they were fantastic.