View Full Version : What do you think about children in pubs?


Blacksheep
06-06-2007, 01:46 PM
What do you think about people bringing kids into pubs?
Do you take your kids in pubs?

My view - When i was a kid my dad would only take us to a pub like the Holly Bush in the summer where we would finish off a walk up rivelin with a drink in the beer garden. He would only allow me into the pub to the toilet and then he had to go with me.
I know it was different when i was a nipper but we were seen and not heard.
I am sick to death of kids in pubs, shouting, running around and being generally in your face with parents who don't seem to care.
Not wishing to generalise about all kids / parents but it does seem to be the case.
Same goes for people bringing dogs into pubs.
Pubs aren't 'playgroups' and they aren't zoo's.
Oh and i don't go in places such as Wacky Warehouse etc, i'm talking about local pubs.

bladesufc1
06-06-2007, 01:48 PM
i dont mind children in pubs as long as they use their pocket money and stop asking me to buy them drinks

sultana
06-06-2007, 01:50 PM
I am of a similar mind to you Blacksheep. We only ever went to a pub with our kids if it was for a meal, and even then usually only in the summer when we could sit outside away from the smoke. They were the well-behaved sort who never ran about or shouted by the way!

Carmine
06-06-2007, 02:03 PM
I have the exact same memories of the Holly Bush!

A walk down Rivelin, a glass of shandy and a packet of crisps if your luck was in.

Some people seem to expect the same self-sacrificing attitude from strangers that they adopt in relation to their own kids.

In a family environment I won't swear or come out with rude comments, but if someone brings a kid into a pub, they made that choice and not me.

My wife and I have a gay friend up in Edinburgh and he has a hell of a time dealing with people who take their kids into what are marketed and run as gay pubs and then look daggers at anyone who dares to show affection to their boyfriend...and that's mad!:roll:

Meaks
06-06-2007, 02:15 PM
I'd say that if you can't cope without going to a pub for 15 years then you should keep your legs shut.

Blacksheep
06-06-2007, 02:33 PM
I agree Carmine - they make the choice to bring them in, so tuff!
I'm not saying is right to sit there swearing etc but a pub is a pub, the last bastion of adults, a place where the man doesn't own your ass and you can do what adults do without having to worry about the odd swear word offending families.
Not that i f and blind constantly -there's a time and place.
And the other thing is that people who complain about pubs being smokey boisterous places are the ones that don't patronise pubs all that often.
I've been going in a local for 22 years and on Thursday its quiz night.
The 'quizers' come in bang on 8.55 for a 9 o'clock start and leave at 10:45 when its finished.
And we get started at coz we want to talk!
Grumble , grumble.
Pubs are pubs not freakin maternity wards.

nick2
06-06-2007, 02:33 PM
I have the exact same memories of the Holly Bush!

A walk down Rivelin, a glass of shandy and a packet of crisps if your luck was in.


Yes, a bottle of coke and a bag of nibbits then the promise that your parents would "only be an hour" which you knew meant "most of the day", luckily at The Holly Bush there was endless entertainment to be had nearby in the river.

scoop
06-06-2007, 02:40 PM
I think it depends very much on the pub.

If the landlord promotes it as family friendly and welcomes children, then all the customers be they tolerant of children or not have to drink there accepting that, like it or not.

If you dont like drinking where there are children, dont go to pubs where children are welcomed by the landlord.

Tanya T 1
06-06-2007, 02:52 PM
I dont think children should be allowed in the pubs. It is an adult place, my Mum & Dad never took us to the pub, we were not allowed mainly because my Dad didnt like people swearing in front of us, so their choice was not to take us there!

BudLover
06-06-2007, 03:10 PM
Pubs are not for children imo.

Similar experiences when I was kid to those that have already posted.
We used to go sometimes in the summer to a few places that had a beer garden.

Pubs that cater for children.....I don't particularly like them, to me a pub is a pub, a childrens play area is just that, etc etc

Jonny5
06-06-2007, 03:14 PM
Kids should only be allowed in if the pub has a specific area for eating (and of course if the kid is eating!). And even then only prior to 8:00 and only if they are well behaved.

Don't mind them in the beer garden as long they are under control.

littlestarshine
06-06-2007, 03:18 PM
if we go to a pub we either sit in the beer garden and let them run ragged or if we have having a meal they will sit and be good!

samc
06-06-2007, 03:58 PM
I have taken our little boy to pubs with restaurants that allow children to go in. Not once has he misbehaved but from days old we took him to cafes, coffee shops etc so he's used to eating out. I also go prepared with things to entertain him. I'd be ashamed if his behaviour upset other people trying to enjoy their meal out.

I don't think all pubs should let children in - If I have the chance of an evening out with my partner we love going for a drink knowing there won't be kids about.

I hate to see kids running round pubs. I don't think they should allow them in after 9pm. Good to have adult time as well as family time.

Meaks
06-06-2007, 04:31 PM
I had to endure some kids running around screaming in the otherwise peaceful garden of the University Arms last Friday, while their idiot parents sat at the other end of the garden looking over occassionally (I assume to check we weren't molesting them or something).

They could have least let them run around in their own space instead of mine - but then I suppose they were wanting to go and relax at the pub.

A woman on an adjacent table to ours clearly wasn't too impressed either, and proceeded to blow smoke over the little horrors. :D

samc
06-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Did you resist the urge to stick your foot out and trip one one these little 'darlings' up?

Tricky
06-06-2007, 04:47 PM
I don't think pubs are suitable places for children in the evenings. The exceptions being pubs with clearly defined kids play areas but even then they should be cleared out by 8 o'clock.

I can't see the problem with dogs though, I always find they add a bit of friendliness to a pub.

Meaks
06-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Did you resist the urge to stick your foot out and trip one one these little 'darlings' up?

It was tempting, but you can't risk even looking at kids these days. :|

samc
06-06-2007, 04:56 PM
It was tempting, but you can't risk even looking at kids these days. :|

All the fun in life has gone....:o

Meaks
06-06-2007, 04:59 PM
All the fun in life has gone....:o

Except for pubs! :)

Rich
06-06-2007, 05:02 PM
The "Waaa! I'm gonna get me Dad on you!" Brigade has a lot to answer for IMO. These days you can't even look sideways at a kid without they claim abuse! :loopy:

On topic, I don't mind kids in pubs, if there's a cute little babby to coo over, all the better (and no, I am not into them like THAT!).

GazB
06-06-2007, 05:06 PM
In family friendly pubs yeah, but not local boozers. I openly admit that I swear way more than I probably should, and I sometimes don't realise I'm doing it which leads to a few annoyed parents looking at me because they brought their kids to the pub where we're having a bit pints and generally being a bit loud... Go home then!

Meaks
06-06-2007, 05:09 PM
Nothing wrong with a bit of foul language in a boozer. :)

Rich
06-06-2007, 05:12 PM
Nothing wrong with a bit of foul language in a boozer. :)

Actually there is, I remember one Sunday night last year, Dev Cat fetched the coppers on robbie_lovin cos he was swearing profusely and singing loud United songs.

Obviously he'd scarpered by the time they arrived though.

sufc_tom
06-06-2007, 05:35 PM
On topic, I don't mind kids in pubs, if there's a cute little babby to coo over, all the better (and no, I am not into them like THAT!).

Why on earth would you think so pre-emptively defensive?


I think differant pubs harbour differant attitudes. For example, if your taking your children into the Bankers Draft, I strongly doubt you will be offended if your children are present or alternatively out robbing TJ Hughes.

Rich
06-06-2007, 06:07 PM
Why on earth would you think so pre-emptively defensive?


I think differant pubs harbour differant attitudes. For example, if your taking your children into the Bankers Draft, I strongly doubt you will be offended if your children are present or alternatively out robbing TJ Hughes.

I am pre-emptively defensive because I have to be.

Otherwise the trolls start and I end up getting pee'd off and doing something that gets me exiled.

jayne67
06-06-2007, 09:56 PM
What do you think about people bringing kids into pubs?
Do you take your kids in pubs?

My view - When i was a kid my dad would only take us to a pub like the Holly Bush in the summer where we would finish off a walk up rivelin with a drink in the beer garden. He would only allow me into the pub to the toilet and then he had to go with me.
I know it was different when i was a nipper but we were seen and not heard.
I am sick to death of kids in pubs, shouting, running around and being generally in your face with parents who don't seem to care.
Not wishing to generalise about all kids / parents but it does seem to be the case.
Same goes for people bringing dogs into pubs.
Pubs aren't 'playgroups' and they aren't zoo's.
Oh and i don't go in places such as Wacky Warehouse etc, i'm talking about local pubs.

Are you testing the water for your new pub?

Jayne

Grim Reaper
06-06-2007, 10:06 PM
On the rare occasion I get to the pub these days I frequent non kid friendly places.

If I go to the pub I need to relax, and don't want kids running around me. If I wanted that I'd stay at home.

If I do choose to take them for a meal, it is in the daytime in a pub with a kids menu, and they don't stray from the table unless they have to (toilet etc)

Grim Reaper
06-06-2007, 10:07 PM
Also, I don't like seeing kids outside pubs at all hours. They don't need to see the drunks rolling home.

Blacksheep
08-06-2007, 04:40 PM
Are you testing the water for your new pub?

Jayne

Not really, i just hate kids in pubs :)
I guess its the way things are changing and because a lot of pubco's decided to compete on price and food and the family environment people beleive it has become the norm.
I like adult environments where people can enjoy themselves.
If i go in a place and everyone is swearing and dogs are barking i leave, simple as that.
But i don't mind lads being a bit loud and swearing and getting a bit drunk.
And i like dogs, really i do, but not in a pub - even if a boozer only serves beer it is still classed as a food environment and as such animals shouldn't be present.
I once saw a lovely dog who's owner was a local, bite a little girl who was goading it and the dog got the blame coz no one was watching when it happened.
That wouldn't have happened if both rules applied - no kids no animals.

slimsid2000
08-06-2007, 05:00 PM
What do you think about people bringing kids into pubs?




Don't have a problem with it if they are well behaved and don't smoke.

Ousetunes
08-06-2007, 05:20 PM
My wife and I eat out in one of our locals quite often (usually once a week, maybe more) and nearly always take our two girls. Both pubs have a kid-friendly policy which we always adhere to and whenever we are out and go to a pub we're not familiar with, one of us will go in and ask what their policy with children is.

Wherever we are, we have our own rules and that is that our children sit still, or if they wish to play outside they can so long as they don't run in and out of the pub and don't make a nuisance of themselves. We make sure that they are out of the pub by 7 (although in our main local they can stay till 9 - but I think that's too late).

I believe, firmly, that they know how to behave. They are 7 and a half and 4 and a half. I've seen many kids older than them left to run riot by their parents. I won't let my children do that.

One reason why is because the pub is still the place to go to to get away from the kids. When that opportunity arises, my wife and I love that freedom.

As I've said before, sometimes it's the adults who don't know how to behave in public (houses).

happyhippy
09-06-2007, 02:30 AM
I agree Carmine - they make the choice to bring them in, so tuff!
I'm not saying is right to sit there swearing etc but a pub is a pub, the last bastion of adults, a place where the man doesn't own your ass and you can do what adults do without having to worry about the odd swear word offending families.
Not that i f and blind constantly -there's a time and place.
And the other thing is that people who complain about pubs being smokey boisterous places are the ones that don't patronise pubs all that often.
I've been going in a local for 22 years and on Thursday its quiz night.
The 'quizers' come in bang on 8.55 for a 9 o'clock start and leave at 10:45 when its finished.
And we get started at coz we want to talk!
Grumble , grumble.
Pubs are pubs not freakin maternity wards.

I'm the handler of three wonderful girls, and, occasionally, I'll take them to pubs (well, my eldest goes after every match, but ......), and I've always had the same theory.

I choose to take them in (if they're allowed), so why the hell should I expect others to moderate their language/behaviour/drinking habits/politics/shirt colour/newspaper choice/whatever, just because my offspring are there?

It's nice that people do cut some stuff out, and it's appreciated, but to me it's not necessary; the pub is a place for ADULTS to relax, not chabbies. But some people start having a go at people because their kids are about? Well if you don't want to hear some agricultural language, or navvy humour, etc., don't take them to a pub, locals especially.

My offspring also know how to behave, as others have said about theirs, because they're used to eating out, or going to a pub, basically being around adults, but if I do take them out, I choose my adult company carefully ........ so I don't just end up being a babysitter .........

happyhippy
09-06-2007, 02:31 AM
My wife and I eat out in one of our locals quite often (usually once a week, maybe more) and nearly always take our two girls. Both pubs have a kid-friendly policy which we always adhere to and whenever we are out and go to a pub we're not familiar with, one of us will go in and ask what their policy with children is.

Wherever we are, we have our own rules and that is that our children sit still, or if they wish to play outside they can so long as they don't run in and out of the pub and don't make a nuisance of themselves. We make sure that they are out of the pub by 7 (although in our main local they can stay till 9 - but I think that's too late).

I believe, firmly, that they know how to behave. They are 7 and a half and 4 and a half. I've seen many kids older than them left to run riot by their parents. I won't let my children do that.

One reason why is because the pub is still the place to go to to get away from the kids. When that opportunity arises, my wife and I love that freedom.

As I've said before, sometimes it's the adults who don't know how to behave in public (houses).

100% spot on, in every respect.

Ghosthunter
09-06-2007, 05:39 AM
I think its very bad to have children in pubs.......their hands are way too small to carry more than one pint back from the bar!!

Meaks
09-06-2007, 03:07 PM
I was horrified last night when visiting a pub in the Valley of Beer area.

Not only was there a little girl (I'd guess about 4 or 5) in the pub with her drunk father at 10pm, but he actually took her into the gents with him where he seemed happy to let her to run around by the urinals that people were busy using! He told her not to touch anything and even asked her what she was looking at when he was having a slash... :o :mad:

Having had a drink I made my disgust quite clear (telling him that it was a public house) and fortunately they left shortly after.

Completely out of order.

fox20thc
09-06-2007, 03:09 PM
Hmmm, I was in one of our real ale establishments the other week and a similar small girl seemed to rule the roost in the bar area, bloody annoying it was aswell.

As a parent I do occasionally take my kids to pubs but they know the rules, if they want to be in a grown up environment they behave accordingly.

Cyclone
09-06-2007, 03:12 PM
I think they're very rude. Never once has a kid offered to get this round in. What's that all about, eh?

What do you think about people bringing kids into pubs?
Do you take your kids in pubs?

My view - When i was a kid my dad would only take us to a pub like the Holly Bush in the summer where we would finish off a walk up rivelin with a drink in the beer garden. He would only allow me into the pub to the toilet and then he had to go with me.
I know it was different when i was a nipper but we were seen and not heard.
I am sick to death of kids in pubs, shouting, running around and being generally in your face with parents who don't seem to care.
Not wishing to generalise about all kids / parents but it does seem to be the case.
Same goes for people bringing dogs into pubs.
Pubs aren't 'playgroups' and they aren't zoo's.
Oh and i don't go in places such as Wacky Warehouse etc, i'm talking about local pubs.

Cyclone
09-06-2007, 03:14 PM
I once saw a lovely dog who's owner was a local, bite a little girl who was goading it and the dog got the blame coz no one was watching when it happened.


You saw, so I hope you stood up for the dog.

Blacksheep
12-06-2007, 05:40 PM
You saw, so I hope you stood up for the dog.

I did indeed, but i also commented to the dog owner that it wasn't a good idea to bring the dog in as it will do that sort of thing instinctively.
He told me it was none of my F'in' business.
So there you go. Charming!

Cyclone
12-06-2007, 06:37 PM
The "Waaa! I'm gonna get me Dad on you!" Brigade has a lot to answer for IMO. These days you can't even look sideways at a kid without they claim abuse! :loopy:


How many kids have claimed abuse against you then Rich? Must be a few at least if it's as common as you say.

Cyclone
12-06-2007, 06:38 PM
I did indeed, but i also commented to the dog owner that it wasn't a good idea to bring the dog in as it will do that sort of thing instinctively.
He told me it was none of my F'in' business.
So there you go. Charming!

Did you tell the parent that he shouldn't being ill mannered and dog teasing offspring into the pub as they clearly weren't civilised enough?

Blacksheep
13-06-2007, 07:21 PM
Did you tell the parent that he shouldn't being ill mannered and dog teasing offspring into the pub as they clearly weren't civilised enough?

Nah, one F off is enough for me thanks.
I think thats the thing with most parents or dog owners (not ALL before you all start defending yourselves :) ) they think that we all understand when a dog barks or a kid screams or cries but i couldn't care less why they do it and i don't see why i should be tollerant about it, i can't stand it and i'm not on my own.
To be honest i try to frequent places where it is strictly over 18's and no chabs or animals allowed.

Rich
13-06-2007, 08:18 PM
Nah, one F off is enough for me thanks.
I think thats the thing with most parents or dog owners (not ALL before you all start defending yourselves :) ) they think that we all understand when a dog barks or a kid screams or cries but i couldn't care less why they do it and i don't see why i should be tollerant about it, i can't stand it and i'm not on my own.
To be honest i try to frequent places where it is strictly over 18's and no chabs or animals allowed.

You'd like it in the Top House in Stannington then (Crown and Glove in Village), you can't get through the door if you haven't lived in the area for at least 20 years.

It's a proper Pub as well, no pool tables or chav infested tap room like the Sportsman (although there's nothing wrong with pool, snooker's annoying cos it takes too long cos you have to pot all the balls in the right order and stuff).

Meaks
14-06-2007, 01:02 AM
you can't get through the door if you haven't lived in the area for at least 20 years.

Utter nonsense.

Blacksheep
28-06-2007, 12:36 PM
Utter nonsense.

They do stare at you a bit though don't they Meaks?
Its like going in the slaughtered lamb!

I used to work in the Hare & Hounds 20 years ago and it was real friendly.
Staff are nice in the top house but the locals can be right ignorant.

We were in there one night and there was no one in the top room and a couple came and sat so close to us the women was sat on our lasses coat!
Inbreds.
So i sparked up a fag and chugged away merrily :)

Another night people came in stared at us in that 'your in my seat' kinda way and then preceeded to lean over us and place their coates on the window sill behind our table and went and sat across the room and constantly glared at us. We were going for a walk around but decided to stay put for the night to **** em off!

whisper
28-06-2007, 12:59 PM
I think pubs ought have a kids room seperately.We used to sit outside the local (forty foot) as kids in the summer.The wall used to be full of families and we all knew each other.It never did us any harm,we had some great fun.Just because you have kids doesn't mean you should have to stop in for 15 yrs if you haven't got a babysitter.But I know it can be annoying for people who go for a night out to find kids running round screaming.That is why It would be nice for more pubs to have a seperate family room like at the sea-side..
We have occ took ours to meadowfarm for sunday lunch and then stayed for a couple of drinks after that,not stayed late tho.It has always been buzzing.
I am lucky that I can get out without mine when I go out, but I do feel sorry for people that can't.:)

Powerage
28-06-2007, 05:19 PM
I think pubs ought have a kids room seperately.We used to sit outside the local (forty foot) as kids in the summer.The wall used to be full of families and we all knew each other.It never did us any harm,we had some great fun.Just because you have kids doesn't mean you should have to stop in for 15 yrs if you haven't got a babysitter.But I know it can be annoying for people who go for a night out to find kids running round screaming.That is why It would be nice for more pubs to have a seperate family room like at the sea-side..
We have occ took ours to meadowfarm for sunday lunch and then stayed for a couple of drinks after that,not stayed late tho.It has always been buzzing.
I am lucky that I can get out without mine when I go out, but I do feel sorry for people that can't.:)

I agree why should you have to stay in for 15 years just because you have kids!

Normally the people who moan are the people with no kids when you have them you learn to be more tolerant.

mat flannery
24-03-2008, 12:06 AM
i never usually respond to any of the chat in here .. but this has peed me off

i bet none of the people winging about kids in pubs actually have kids !

you see I could be one of those dads who doesnt spend time wih my kid but works all week hands some money to the missus and then goes to the pub all weekend to get bladered.I dont ,i spend as much time as possible with my kid .... if that means that i fancy a couple of pints down my local then i usually go with my boy and wife .. hes 3

ive got another idea ,,,, if you dont like kids in pubs ...dont go the pub !

its not the 1970's anymore .. kids are not something to be ignored and not heard !!! .. get a grip ....... i usually ask my son to behave when hes in the pub and he does ... the landlords usually encouage kids ...... they are good money

anyway next time im in the pup with my boy im going to break the habit of a lifetime and tell him to be as noisy as possible ...hopefully when one of the anti children people in here will be sat next to me

watch me smile !!!

Cyclone
24-03-2008, 01:00 AM
So you thought you'd respond to a thread that was last posted on 9 months ago?

But to respond, you could spend time with your child at home, or in a child friendly environment.

Watch you smile? As the landlord asks you to leave maybe.

mat flannery
24-03-2008, 01:32 AM
lol ...........

happyhippy
24-03-2008, 04:19 AM
you see I could be one of those dads who doesnt spend time wih my kid but works all week hands some money to the missus and then goes to the pub all weekend to get bladered.I dont ,i spend as much time as possible with my kid .... if that means that i fancy a couple of pints down my local then i usually go with my boy and wife .. hes 3

Not a problem with that fella. I do the same myself.

ive got another idea ,,,, if you dont like kids in pubs ...dont go the pub !

Nope. A pub isn't a playground, it's a pub. For grown ups. Now if your kids are well behaved and all the rest of it (with me it's the mother I have to keep under control :hihi:), then all is good and well. But when push comes to shove, if kids are irritating adults, then you get rid of the kids.

End of story.

its not the 1970's anymore .. kids are not something to be ignored and not heard !!! .. get a grip ....... i usually ask my son to behave when hes in the pub and he does ... the landlords usually encouage kids ...... they are good money

Glad he does. That said, some people seem to think that "asking their kids to behave" means a tirade of four letter words at 120 decibels. If you think that the odd bag of crisps and a couple of halves of pop is 'good money' (which is what most people do with kids in pubs), then you're seriously deluded.

anyway next time im in the pup with my boy im going to break the habit of a lifetime and tell him to be as noisy as possible ...hopefully when one of the anti children people in here will be sat next to me

watch me smile !!!

Why would you do that? Read my earlier posts, and you'll see that I agree that there isn't a problem with kids in pubs, if they're well behaved and so are the parents. You're coming across as a hell of a bully in my eyes. That last paragraph alone says it all.

"I want MY boy and MY wife in MY pub and to hell with anyone else."

What a lovely example you've set there.

arsenal
24-03-2008, 11:15 AM
A few ques all you lot who dont like kids in pubs have u any your self plus most pubs its only till 9 PM so y not go in after 9 PM
in HARROGATE one pub let Dogs in not kids whats that all about then a gain in my CAB i let kids in but not Dogs cant stand them

happyhippy
24-03-2008, 09:54 PM
A few ques all you lot who dont like kids in pubs have u any your self plus most pubs its only till 9 PM so y not go in after 9 PM
in HARROGATE one pub let Dogs in not kids whats that all about then a gain in my CAB i let kids in but not Dogs cant stand them

I've already said I have three kids, from 4-14. But if I'm having a few on my own, why the hell should I have to wait until kids have disappeared before enjoying a few pints?

Meaks
25-03-2008, 02:03 AM
Went into the Rawson Spring on Sunday and found to our horror that some dirty animals had left a used nappy on the table before they left!

We alerted the management who were also horrified but cleared it up quickly.

If only they hadn't have allowed them in in the first place.

Meaks
25-03-2008, 02:08 AM
ive got another idea ,,,, if you dont like kids in pubs ...dont go the pub !

NO - if you like pubs, don't have kids.

Or if you do then at least accept that you won't go into a pub for at least 14 years.

Swan_Vesta
25-03-2008, 02:44 AM
I make a point of going to pubs where they don't allow kids at any time, If I do then it's not through choice and only through social obligation. They're my prefered place as I want to sit there and enjoy my pint, conversation with friends or newspaper and not some E numbered up sprog who is rattling his nut off, whizzing round the place screaming "MUMMY, MUMMY I'M AN AREOPLANE while his parents sit there with that stupid, inane look of 'They're lovely at that age'.

Just leave me to enjoy my space free from your filthy child's shrieking and cretinous utterances. If I wanted to experience the joy of children the I'd knock our lass - Keep your own tit rats to yourself

happyhippy
25-03-2008, 03:25 AM
I make a point of going to pubs where they don't allow kids at any time, If I do then it's not through choice and only through social obligation. They're my prefered place as I want to sit there and enjoy my pint, conversation with friends or newspaper and not some E numbered up sprog who is rattling his nut off, whizzing round the place screaming "MUMMY, MUMMY I'M AN AREOPLANE while his parents sit there with that stupid, inane look of 'They're lovely at that age'.

Just leave me to enjoy my space free from your filthy child's shrieking and cretinous utterances. If I wanted to experience the joy of children the I'd knock our lass - Keep your own tit rats to yourself

Not convinced you're wrong. I've taken my kids to pubs from being very young, but they don't run about and create. I'm no Obergruppenfuhrer, but I just ask that if the kids are in the beer garden they play nicely, and on the few times I take them inside, they don't disturb others.

It's not rocket science, is it?

I actually think it's important that kids get to be around adults when out, and to understand that being out is a good thing, but I often find that in many pubs where kids can go, parents are more bothered about their own enjoyment, rather than that of other patrons, let alone their kids.

sheffandy
25-03-2008, 10:47 PM
NO - if you like pubs, don't have kids.

Or if you do then at least accept that you won't go into a pub for at least 14 years.

Bit daft that Meaks,seeing as the pub you mentioned above welcome families with open arms,and do an exclusive child menu....:huh:

Fudbeer
25-03-2008, 11:02 PM
Pubs and kids do not mix.

If they want pubs for kids then they should have a seperate area where only soft drinks are allowed.

hennypenny
25-03-2008, 11:04 PM
For me the problem isn't kids in pubs, it is badly behaved kids in pubs - or anywhere else.

I have taken both my children to pubs for meals over the years. While they were small we would choose family friendly pubs, and as they have got older we have gone to more mainstream places.

I would never let my children run around or make a lot of noise, if they had cried I would have taken them outside (but they rarely cried), they know that they have to consider the other people using the place who don't always want to hear a childs piping voice (however amusing the joke :)), and also that it is very dangerous when there are people carrying trays of hot food and hot drinks who might not notice a child.

It is not hard to help a child to learn the rules that make them pleasant to be around - it is a shame that more parents don't bother to teach them.

Jessica23
25-03-2008, 11:25 PM
I actually think it's important that kids get to be around adults when out, and to understand that being out is a good thing, but I often find that in many pubs where kids can go, parents are more bothered about their own enjoyment, rather than that of other patrons, let alone their kids.

Yes, I absolutely agree with this.

Children who are well-socialised and well brought up (to use a rather old fashioned phrase) can conduct themselves properly in an 'adult' environment - whether that's a pub, restaurant, Mum's office for half an hour, whatever - without causing anyone else any qualms.

On the other hand, I've worked in pubs where Mum or Dad has just sat at the bar for hours on end (usually on a Sunday afternoon), loaded the child up with coke and crisps and let them run riot. Horrible to see.

razor
26-03-2008, 12:42 AM
I totally agree with you when we go out for a drink on our own or with the kids i want to have a nice time and my kids only get up from their seats if they need the toilet. It seems that a lot of parents take their kids to pubs and forget they are there they just let them run riot and then that spoils everyone elses night.

Meaks
26-03-2008, 12:56 AM
Bit daft that Meaks,seeing as the pub you mentioned above welcome families with open arms,and do an exclusive child menu....:huh:

Yes, only until 9pm thankfully. ;)

sheffandy
26-03-2008, 01:31 AM
On the other hand, I've worked in pubs where Mum or Dad has just sat at the bar for hours on end (usually on a Sunday afternoon), loaded the child up with coke and crisps and let them run riot. Horrible to see.


I remember listening to a pub debate on Radio Five Live last year about pubs,a landlord was telling a story about an alcove under a flight of stairs in his pub was refered on Sunday afternoon's as 'The Nursery';often full of buggys and kids on stools left to their own devices.Anyway one customer not connected to the parents with the unattended kids prevented a near fatal accident,but the child was injured an needed treatment at casuality.When the landlord informed the unaware parent of the accident,the mother carted the poor little 'un off to the hospital up the road....still with pint in hand!

razor
26-03-2008, 05:59 PM
I think now that pubs have realised theres money to be made by inviting families. Shame theres not a way of vetting the good ones before you let them in "lol"

EmilyM
27-03-2008, 12:09 AM
[QUOTE=Ousetunes;2320542]My wife and I eat out in one of our locals quite often (usually once a week, maybe more) and nearly always take our two girls. Both pubs have a kid-friendly policy which we always adhere to and whenever we are out and go to a pub we're not familiar with, one of us will go in and ask what their policy with children is.

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I wish everyone would do this, instead of just assuming you can bring children into any pub. Where I work, only children over 14 are welcomed, but you get some families bringing children, they ignore the signs (2 on the way in) and look shocked when you say "no they can't sit outside either"
When I have children, I wouldn't dream of taking them to the pub until they were old enough to sit quietly and be well behaved, not running around and shouting getting on everyones nerves.

deer
27-03-2008, 01:39 AM
i never usually respond to any of the chat in here .. but this has peed me off

i bet none of the people winging about kids in pubs actually have kids !

you see I could be one of those dads who doesnt spend time wih my kid but works all week hands some money to the missus and then goes to the pub all weekend to get bladered.I dont ,i spend as much time as possible with my kid .... if that means that i fancy a couple of pints down my local then i usually go with my boy and wife .. hes 3

ive got another idea ,,,, if you dont like kids in pubs ...dont go the pub !

its not the 1970's anymore .. kids are not something to be ignored and not heard !!! .. get a grip ....... i usually ask my son to behave when hes in the pub and he does ... the landlords usually encouage kids ...... they are good money

anyway next time im in the pup with my boy im going to break the habit of a lifetime and tell him to be as noisy as possible ...hopefully when one of the anti children people in here will be sat next to me

watch me smile !!!

i think its out of order to expect kids to sit in a pub while mum & dad get drunk, why not try taking them to the park etc? yes, i have kids b4 you ask

arsenal
27-03-2008, 10:48 AM
Dont think many if any pubs let kids in unless they r Eatin so all those who dont have kids or dont like them in pubs u know whats comin next GO TO A PUB THAT DOES NOT SERVE FOOD there jobs a good one

Speckled Hen
27-03-2008, 11:58 AM
I think its very bad to have children in pubs.......their hands are way too small to carry more than one pint back from the bar!!

And they can't reach the beer pumps so they often serve short measure. They are far more suited to sweeping chimneys.

gularscute
31-03-2008, 08:19 PM
As long as the kids are well behaved and the parents are responsible, I don't see a problem. There should be pubs that are solely for adults though. It's a pity that a lot of child friendly places are those terrible plastic pubs with ball pools and the like.

titfortotti
03-04-2008, 01:23 PM
remember why you're going to the pub in the first place... if you've got a kid... get a babysitter