Im interested in your views on the forthcoming Champions League final, i think its going to be Milan unfortunately.
They looked brilliant against Manchester United.
:bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

Wish Liverpool luck as I'd like to see them win it yet again. But I fear the Milan Machine will triumph.

Got it wrong last time - probably the most amazing game I've seen in about 55 years of watching - but I'm sticking with Milan as there is so much to admire, except for that pitbull, Gattuso! Will be pleased to be wrong again.

Seedorf and Kaka win it for me. No silverware for Liverpool this year I'm afraid.

Heart says Liverpool win, Head says it's gonna be very close lol
Milan were immense against United, but i feel United played the wrong system.
It's going to take a massive effort to triumph this time around, but if any team are cabable of doing it in Europe, Liverpool are.
I thought we wouldn't get past Barcelona!
I thought we wouldn't get past Chelsea!
Who knows. As i see it, it's anybody's game. I honestly can not predict an out and out winner so, i reckon penalties will again seperate the two!

Good luck Paul m8 i,ll be in Cleethorpes in a shwobar with loads of scousers what im meeting from the last trip we had there a couple of weeks ago, there from walton were meeting them at some point next week.

Good luck Paul m8 i,ll be in Cleethorpes in a shwobar with loads of scousers what im meeting from the last trip we had there a couple of weeks ago, there from walton were meeting them at some point next week.
Should be a blinding day for you then :D
I predict plenty of sore heads for the following day :gag:
Hope you enjoy the game, hope Liverpool can pull it off ;)

i really really hope liverpool win again, i'm giving myself the night off from revision to watch it but i think it'll be a real nail-biter, too close to call i think but come on you reds we can do it :clap: :clap: :clap:

Milan to win. I doubt they will throw it away this time.

I hope Liverpool prove me wrong though!

i really really hope liverpool win again, i'm giving myself the night off from revision to watch it but i think it'll be a real nail-biter, too close to call i think but come on you reds we can do it :clap: :clap: :clap:

That's the spirit ;) :hihi:

That's the spirit ;) :hihi:

i'll probably be a nervous wreck again when it comes down to it - in 2005 my housemates had to sit with me while the penalties were on :(even though they hate football) because i was that bad :(

i'll probably be a nervous wreck again when it comes down to it - in 2005 my housemates had to sit with me while the penalties were on :(even though they hate football) because i was that bad :(

Tell me about it. I'm a wreck now so god knows what i'll be like :hihi:
At least you have someone to sit with, i'm staying in so i can watch it properly but it's more likely i'll have my hands over my eyes half the match :o

Here's the team i think can beat Milan. Very strong centrally to null the threat of Kaka. The Gerrard and Gattusso battle which in my eye's is a Gerrard triumph.
Defence is acustomed to one another and should be solid as usual.
Two quick wingers in Pennant and the returning Kewell (not match fit but could get 60 mins) crossing the ball over for the dangerous Crouch (who Milan have stated is a major worry for them)
This will give us options and also a chance to change things late on if things are not going to plan.

-----------------Reina-----------------
---Finnan----Carra----Agger----Riise---
------------Alonso----Mascherano-----------
---Pennant------Gerrard-------Kewell---
-----------------Crouch----------------

On the bench would be:

Dudeck
Hyppia
Gonzalez
Sissoko
Kuyt
Fowler
Arbeloa

Anyone agree?
How would you change it?

Milan 4-0 no doubt

After the way that Liverpool handed 3 points to Fulham that helped send Sheffield United down I really hope Milan win

After the way that Liverpool handed 3 points to Fulham that helped send Sheffield United down I really hope Milan win
Here we go again, the sorry old sob story!!
I'll say again....... Maybe if Sheff U had got a result against a very poor Wigan side when playing at home and only needing a draw, you would have stayed up. If you read the rest of the thread you will see that the Liverpool team v Fulham that you are refering too wasn't that bad. Full of internationals and only 1 player making his debut. The rest of the team were players that have consistently played all season!!
For god's sake, stop your moaning. Your down because you were not good enough, not because of any other thing ok.

Milan 4-0 no doubt

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: It's your opinion but although we may well lose Tosh, i doubt very much it will be by that type of scoreline buddy :hihi:

Here we go again, the sorry old sob story!!
I'll say again....... Maybe if Sheff U had got a result against a very poor Wigan side when playing at home and only needing a draw, you would have stayed up. If you read the rest of the thread you will see that the Liverpool team v Fulham that you are refering too wasn't that bad. Full of internationals and only 1 player making his debut. The rest of the team were players that have consistently played all season!!
For god's sake, stop your moaning. Your down because you were not good enough, not because of any other thing ok.



Its funny though how he managed to rest the team against fulham and then brought them back a week later against charlton who did not need a result.

Its funny though how he managed to rest the team against fulham and then brought them back a week later against charlton who did not need a result.
To keep them fresh and matchfit maybe??
If you are saying that in Rafa's thinking was to try and get Sheff U relegated then you really are a Daft Lad indeed!!

To keep them fresh and matchfit maybe??
If you are saying that in Rafa's thinking was to try and get Sheff U relegated then you really are a Daft Lad indeed!!

no I dont think it was to get us relegated but he said he wanted to rest players for the champions league. If you wanted to do that then then surely you would rest the players for the closest game to that match to give them maximum recovery time or is it me just being daft.
COME ON MILAN-HOPE YOU WIN 5-0

no I dont think it was to get us relegated but he said he wanted to rest players for the champions league. If you wanted to do that then then surely you would rest the players for the closest game to that match to give them maximum recovery time or is it me just being daft.
COME ON MILAN-HOPE YOU WIN 5-0
No because if Rafa had of played a full strength team against Fulham and then rested all the key players v Charlton, the gap then would have been from the Fulham game to the final without a game for the key players which is far too long if they are to be focused and match fit!
Doesn't take alot of working out mate!

Ive changed my mind lol 1-1 liverpool to win it in extra time.

Ive changed my mind lol 1-1 liverpool to win it in extra time.
What made you change your mind lol

No because if Rafa had of played a full strength team against Fulham and then rested all the key players v Charlton, the gap then would have been from the Fulham game to the final without a game for the key players which is far too long if they are to be focused and match fit!
Doesn't take alot of working out mate!
You do talk a lot of boxxxcks dont you. They are supposed to be proffesional footballers, though the only person in your team worth his money is gerrard. I t does not take much workin out if they got injured v fulham its 3 weeks to get fit where as if they got injured v charlton its only 2 weeks. surely even a thick liverpudlian can work that out.

You do talk a lot of boxxxcks dont you. They are supposed to be proffesional footballers, though the only person in your team worth his money is gerrard. I t does not take much workin out if they got injured v fulham its 3 weeks to get fit where as if they got injured v charlton its only 2 weeks. surely even a thick liverpudlian can work that out.
Three weeks without a game would make the players not sharp or have peak match fitness.
Why do you have to throw in insults Daftlad??

What made you change your mind lol

Because i want a good night next week and it would spoil it if the italians won lol :)

Three weeks without a game would make the players not sharp or have peak match fitness.
Why do you have to throw in insults Daftlad??

but its like i said why not play the full team when he could rather than rest players, he still has more two weeks before the champions league game to get them fit. the team he played against Fulham I would suggest any team in the league would have beaten Liverpool that day. I dont think Benitez respects the premier league, now he knows for certain the champions league place for next season was secure. i could understand the team put out if it was a team with nothing to play for but fulham were in the deep poo like ourselves and were given 3 points by his team selection. I know you said there were only one making his debut, but if you were honest would you rather face Kuyt up front of Bellamy, i know which my choice would be

but its like i said why not play the full team when he could rather than rest players
Because Liverpool had just played a very hard fought, tiring, Champions League Semi Final against Chelsea and wanted to give key players a break to avoid any injuries in a match that was meaningless to Liverpool. How many more times.

the team he played against Fulham I would suggest any team in the league would have beaten Liverpool that day.
Liverpool played poorly, yet still had chances to win. Again missed chances cost us, story of our season really. The Liverpool team was full of international players who had been playing regularly all season, again how many more times!!

I dont think Benitez respects the premier league, now he knows for certain the champions league place for next season was secure..
Of course he respect's the league but as you say the game was meaningless to him. CL already sewn up, a semi final against Chelsea just been played and a CL final around the corner... Why would he risk his key players against errr, Fulham?

i could understand the team put out if it was a team with nothing to play for but fulham were in the deep poo like ourselves and were given 3 points by his team selection.
Not his problem. Having just played a CL Semi Final and the game been meaningless to Liverpool, Rafa decided he would rest key players and also have a look at some squad players to decide on new contract's etc. Fulham fighting relegation does not warrant Rafa Benitez playing a full strength squad in a meaningless game with a risk of losing crucial players for a CL final that is just around the corner. Surely you are not too bitter to see his logic?

I know you said there were only one making his debut, but if you were honest would you rather face Kuyt up front of Bellamy, i know which my choice would be
The guy who made his debut (Insua) is a left back!
Bellamy has played against most of the top teams Liverpool have faced this season (scoring away at Barca being one). Bellamy playing instead of Kuyt is hardly anything to be whinging about is it?

Also Daftlad, didn't Man U rest Ronaldo, Scholes and Giggs for their game against West Ham for the very same reasons as Rafa rested his key players?
I don't see you moaning about that and rightly so, Fergie was thinking about the next game and, although Man U still lost the FA Cup final, he was well within his right's to do so!!

You know something Paul, You would make a great lawyer with all the excuses you come out with for managers resting players.
God knows how these amateur players in the lower leagues manage, what with having to fit jobs,kids, shopping etc in with training and playing matches they don't get paid for.

I wouldn't mind being a lawyer m8 its a good trait to have then lol.

Liverpool are very difficult to break down and are the underdogs. Could go either way, but I'm going to stick my neck out and say Liverpool.

Ive heard there playing Crouch up on his own, any facts to this?

Of course Benitez is going to rest players. He doesn't want them injured. I'm tired of hearing about it being 'not fair' that the big teams didn't field full strength teams. Teams are only responsible to themselves.

2-2 then Liverpool to win.

Milan sorry liverpool

I think your best saying a draw, then someone to win on pens.

I believe the Reds will win, I said if we get past Chelsea then we can win it. Milan haven't shut up about how they are going to get revenge, how god is on their side and Gatuso is going to knock Gerrard out.:roll:
The pressure is all on them and I think they played their best game against the Mancs, it will be difficult to raise a performance like that again.
I can't wait 2 - 0 to the Reds.
Bushmills all round, barman:hihi:

Also Daftlad, didn't Man U rest Ronaldo, Scholes and Giggs for their game against West Ham for the very same reasons as Rafa rested his key players?
I don't see you moaning about that and rightly so, Fergie was thinking about the next game and, although Man U still lost the FA Cup final, he was well within his right's to do so!!

But at least they were on the bench and came on the pitch later whereas gerrard was not even on the bench. Also man united had an important match one week later, not three weeks later. As for resting being a footballer thats a poor excuse. If you are a professional athlete, you should be able to manage 3 games in a week. How do you think semi pro people go on playing football and actually working for a living,

If there really is a god


COME ON MILAN

I've had £10 on Liverpool to win 2-1 at 11/1.

But at least they were on the bench and came on the pitch later whereas gerrard was not even on the bench. Also man united had an important match one week later, not three weeks later. As for resting being a footballer thats a poor excuse. If you are a professional athlete, you should be able to manage 3 games in a week. How do you think semi pro people go on playing football and actually working for a living,
You do not understand you prat!!
He was protecting them from injuries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure if asked, Gerrard, Carragher etc would have gladly got on with it, but the manager didn't play them as to protect them from injuries!!!!!!!!
Your getting boring.
Please drop it now and lets move on yeah.
You hope Liverpool lose, I hope you get banned from this site :D

If there really is a god


COME ON MILAN

If there really is a god

COME ON WIGAN :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

You know something Paul, You would make a great lawyer with all the excuses you come out with for managers resting players.
God knows how these amateur players in the lower leagues manage, what with having to fit jobs,kids, shopping etc in with training and playing matches they don't get paid for.
Protecting from injuries with a massive final upcoming perhaps ???

I've had £10 on Liverpool to win 2-1 at 11/1.

Thats a cracking price , who was that with?

Daftlad, personally I don't like the idea of resting players and when I was following Liverpool all over Europe the 1st team was never more than a squad of 14 maybe 15 at a push. However, the season is over 38 games not just at the final few weeks. Maybe if Unsworth had not have missed that penalty when playing for you instead of scoring for Wigan, maybe if you had another decent striker instead of just Hulse before he got injured. Also Warnock rested players for certain games.

PS : Enjoy Bryan Robson:hihi:

Who,who Brian Robson :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Well it detined to be a great game in a approprite City, and yeah, the reds will triumph !

Come on milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my brother still gives me abuse about 2 years ago so i dont want anymore phonecalls from him laughing at me...

even without the family football politics i dont think liverpool are strong enough. from liverpool only gerrard would get into the milan team..

Thats a cracking price , who was that with?

Bluesq.com

Come on milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my brother still gives me abuse about 2 years ago so i dont want anymore phonecalls from him laughing at me...

even without the family football politics i dont think liverpool are strong enough. from liverpool only gerrard would get into the milan team..
With due respect.... Did you think we were strong enough to defeat Chelsea, Barca, Juventus, Chelsea again and Milan the last time???
Mate, it's not about how Milan played against Man U (who didn't have the fight and grit in midfield). It's about passion, refereeing decisions, luck, the crowd, team work etc.
It's no fluke that Liverpool time and time again turn over the so called big teams in Europe!
Milan before the Man U game were not that good! Before the tournament started they were given no chance (as were Liverpool). The best two teams from this compitition are in the final. Liverpool won't lay down, we all know that. Can they win it? We will see tommorow!

My son is still ****** that the ref didn't see the handball in the Celtic/Milan game. Hope the ref keeps an eye on Gerrard when he is in Milans penalty area tomorrow. ;)

My son is still ****** that the ref didn't see the handball in the Celtic/Milan game. Hope the ref keeps an eye on Gerrard when he is in Milans penalty area tomorrow. ;)
Yeah lol Hope he's as good as the ref that kept an eye on Ronaldo in the semis :D

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Come on milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my brother still gives me abuse about 2 years ago so i dont want anymore phonecalls from him laughing at me...

even without the family football politics i dont think liverpool are strong enough. from liverpool only gerrard would get into the milan team..

And here was me thinking that all the Bluenoses were lost on another message board:hihi: , nice to see some things will never change.
PS if the result does not go the Reds way then the phone will definitely be unanswered.:|

That's one thing we can agree on. :thumbsup:

Personally, I hate Liverpool so I want Milan to win! Call me unpatriotic, but I've always loathed them.

No doubt they'll bore their way to the trophy again, probably by winning yet another penalty shoot-out after a dull draw. (and before somebody points it out, yes the 2005 final was a thriller, but that was the exception!)

Hope they win but i have got a fiver on milan to win 4-1 (66-1!! worth a pop)

which messageboard is this? might have to check it out :D

With due respect.... Did you think we were strong enough to defeat Chelsea, Barca, Juventus, Chelsea again and Milan the last time???
Mate, it's not about how Milan played against Man U (who didn't have the fight and grit in midfield). It's about passion, refereeing decisions, luck, the crowd, team work etc.
It's no fluke that Liverpool time and time again turn over the so called big teams in Europe!
Milan before the Man U game were not that good! Before the tournament started they were given no chance (as were Liverpool). The best two teams from this compitition are in the final. Liverpool won't lay down, we all know that. Can they win it? We will see tommorow!

Whoa whoa whoa there fella!
I thought you would beat chelsea, you played an out of form barca and got through fair enough, juve are NOT the team they once were and you fluked it on pens against Milan last time after an inspired fightback from Stevie G.

We lost to Milan because our regular defence was out - we didnt have the strength at the back and it showed, I really dont think we would have been steamrollered if the first XI was out I really dont.

You keep mentioning big teams, but all the while, you dont really take into account their squad form/health do you really - juve for example are not even in their respective top league anymore and were without a lot of their key players who left.

Milan defensively, have been excellent this season in the CL - and Kaka has been on somewhat of a roll so I can see so how you stop that lad tonight will decide the match.

The comment 'the best two teams from the competition are in the final' I find absolutely incredible... considering the whipping we gave Roma - which to my knowledge... the best performance from an english team EVER in the CL - especially to hammer a team of Roma's stature like that.. so please, dont come out with that - because its just not true

God help us all if Liverpool win though - I might just book a holiday tomorrow :D

God help us all if Liverpool win... thats all I will say.
Milan 2-0

Liverpool honestly have NO chance. 6 mins of madness last time.. AC WILL kill them and show them up

Personally, I hate Liverpool so I want Milan to win! Call me unpatriotic, but I've always loathed them.

No doubt they'll bore their way to the trophy again, probably by winning yet another penalty shoot-out after a dull draw. (and before somebody points it out, yes the 2005 final was a thriller, but that was the exception!)

2001 Uefa Cup final was an exception too was it? Or last seasons FA Cup final?

Yaaaawwwwnnnn....

God help us all if Liverpool win... thats all I will say.
Milan 2-0

You'll not hear me crowing.

Liverpool honestly have NO chance. 6 mins of madness last time.. AC WILL kill them and show them up

We have a better chance than anyone else.

It will be a tight game, and it will be hard going for us, but I wouldn't write us off so easily.

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Well said mate, its getting a bit tedous now isn't it:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
good luck to the pool.......

Come on the redmen! Tonight we become the joint second-highest winner of European Cups with AC Milan - six each. I forecast a professional, solid Liverpool performance with a 2-0 win.

We won it at Wembley
We won it in Gay Paris
In '77 and '84 it was Rome

We won it five times
We won it five tiiiiii-iiiiiii-iiiiiiimes
In Istanbul
We won it five times

We'll win it six times
We'll win it six tiiiii-iiiii-iiiiiiimes
In Ancient Greece
We'll win it six times

:D

Cheered them home last time even though I had 150 quid to come if Milan won the cup :mad: Talk about counting my money at half time :rolleyes:

Come on Liverpool!

Nice to see them living up to their long standing reputation. Thousands have turned up without tickets and the fighting has started this morning!

:roll:

Nice to see them living up to their long standing reputation. Thousands have turned up without tickets and the fighting has started this morning!

:roll:

Yawn.

There were 100 people fighting over a single match ticket. Nice to see you're keeping a balanced and open minded view there Tony.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/championsleague200607/story/0,,2085586,00.html

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/05/23/liverpools_ticketing_policy_in.html

I'm not condoning the behaviour by the way, I just hate seeing English football fans made victim of an outmoded stereotype.

Now, doning a Mod hat for a minute, can we get back on topic please?

Yep, good luck to Liverpool. I'm hoping for a repeat of Istanbul seeing as I missed that one, but have recently been hearing a lot about it! ;)

Come on Liverpool! With special thoughts going out to lanky love god Peter Crouch!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Forza.....

MILAN.

I am torn here.

I wont be happy whoever wins. I can't be done with hearing Liverpool 'fans' crowing, but at the same time I can’t be done with seeing Gattuso getting his hands on the trophy. He is surely the most hateable man in Italy, which by definition, is no mean feat.

A word of warning. Don’t watch the game in the Walkabout unless you want to see loads of southerners cheering 'their' team on, under some tenuous link that their Dad used to support them etc etc.

Milan to take the lead but Liverpool to win 2-1

A word of warning. Don’t watch the game in the Walkabout unless you want to see loads of southerners cheering 'their' team on, under some tenuous link that their Dad used to support them etc etc.

It's the same with any big club, it's part of the deal of being succesful.

Rest assured my link isn't tenuous though, and I don't do crowing.

I have lived in Sheffield for a long time having moved here from Liverpool, so thanks to all the Sheffield people who have passed on their best wishes.

Nervous isn't the word!!

It's the same with any big club, it's part of the deal of being succesful.

Rest assured my link isn't tenuous though, and I don't do crowing.

It is the same sadly. And its bloody awful.

I am informed by our mutual friend Sarah though that your a proper scouser! Ha ha!

It is the same sadly. And its bloody awful.

I am informed by our mutual friend Sarah though that your a proper scouser! Ha ha!

I'm sure you were!!

Enjoy the game

:thumbsup:

I couldn't give a toss about this years final. Have contempt for each team equally.

Arsenal will win it next year with Terry and VP fit again.

Then Wenger will quit, causing a mass exodus, and Arsenal will be rubbish, allowing me to actually buy a ticket.

It's all part of Gods great plan...

Good luck Liverpool!! :gag:

http://www.centrume.krakow.pl/~miba/mp3/Cori/UltrasMilan/forza_milan_milan_campione.mp3

liverpool but it will be rotherham winning it in a few years time :P

Although through gritted teath Guderian i know........ thanks for the good luck wish!!

Best fans in the world bar none!!!!!!

oh i'm all nervous now :help:

oh i'm all nervous now :help:

Shetting myself clare lol.

Emma i mean lol
See thats how messed up i am lol

What colour are Pyool playing in?

It looks like a big crowd (http://www.dodgyscouser.com/scousers.jpg) in Athens tonight!

:)

What colour are Pyool playing in?

It looks like a big crowd (http://www.dodgyscouser.com/scousers.jpg) in Athens tonight!

:)

The players they have on the bench look impressive (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40867000/jpg/_40867275_liverpoolfans203.jpg) too!

:)

The players they have on the bench look impressive (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40867000/jpg/_40867275_liverpoolfans203.jpg) too!

:)

Calm down, calm down... and so on :D

Something I have noticed tonight:

Is it just me - or do teams play better when they play against us (Man Utd) because so far - Milan are all over the shop.

Its like teams raise their games when they play us otherwise they play cack.

Milan 1-0 boys and girls!

£10 on Inzaghi at 8s!!

Something I have noticed tonight:

Is it just me - or do teams play better when they play against us (Man Utd) because so far - Milan are all over the shop.

Its like teams raise their games when they play us otherwise they play cack.
Could it not be that we make it harder for teams in Europe??
Please don't make this into a Man U thing!!
Liverpool are the better team tonight and are a goal down because of luck!!

Could it not be that we make it harder for teams in Europe??
Please don't make this into a Man U thing!!
Liverpool are the better team tonight and are a goal down because of luck!!

I dont care if you batter them for 89 mins.
As long as you end this season trophyless!

Could it not be that we make it harder for teams in Europe??
Please don't make this into a Man U thing!!
Liverpool are the better team tonight and are a goal down because of luck!!

Rubbish mate - you're one nil down, because Jamie Carragher cocked up and gave the ball back to Kaka first off - who then got fouled and Pirlo took a blinding free kick - remember, I am sat watching the game as well mate :D

SO... its your favourite defender Carragher who might cost you the CL mate.
Oh god I love it so much :D

You are doing better than the other final though in regards to how you are playing.

I dont care if you batter them for 89 mins.
As long as you end this season trophyless!

And its jamie carragher who cocked up as well mate!
Bahahahaha!

Is it just me - or do teams play better when they play against us.

What like Roma ???
Mate, please don't make excuses about teams being better against Man U than they are against any other team.
Maybe it's because Man U are great in the Premiership but are not so good in Europe!!

What like Roma ???
Mate, please don't make excuses about teams being better against Man U than they are against any other team.
Maybe it's because Man U are great in the Premiership but are not so good in Europe!!

Roma who are 2nd in the italian league should I mention where Milan are 33 points is it from winning the league? Hmmmmm

I think it is that - teams try harder against us it seems, I agree with what fergie said a while ago now - they seem to try against us - Milan for me, look nowhere near as good as they were in the 2nd leg against us.

Teams coming out again - enjoy the 2nd half everyone :D
Come on Milan!!

Rubbish mate - you're one nil down, because Jamie Carragher cocked up and gave the ball back to Kaka first off - who then got fouled and Pirlo took a blinding free kick - remember, I am sat watching the game as well mate :D.
So did you not see the massive deflection??

SO... its your favourite defender Carragher who might cost you the CL mate.
Oh god I love it so much :D.
What like inept defendin by Vidic cost you in the semis.

You are doing better than the other final though in regards to how you are playing.
We are playing fine.
Better than when Milan totally outclassed Man U in the semis hey?

We are there and you are not!! Dont be bitter, just try and be neutral and admit that we are the better team tonight, although we are losing through a lucky goal

Will answer all your lovely questions in a bit - I have a match to watch.. check out the avatar though - for one night only, hope you all enjoy it :D
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Bad decision from the linesman team/ref then - Kaka was ONSIDE and it should have been 2-0... says it all really :roll:

Looks like Liverpools tactic of one up front and play for penalties will fail


What a shame

COME ON MILAN


That rest against Fulham has not had the desired effect-what a shame:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

liverpool have played really well tonight, their fans can be proud!

Yes!!!
Brilliant stuff.

The best team won on the night and at least we beat the champions of europe this season :D

So did you not see the massive deflection??

Yep.. BUT.. the inital cockup was carraghers to give the ball back wasnt it.


What like inept defendin by Vidic cost you in the semis.

You mean Vidic who had just come back from a major injury in a makeshift defence.. but of course...


We are playing fine.
Better than when Milan totally outclassed Man U in the semis hey?

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We are there and you are not!! Dont be bitter, just try and be neutral and admit that we are the better team tonight, although we are losing through a lucky goal[/QUOTE]

well we may not have won but we can at least still hold our heads up high, it just wasn't our night!

So did you not see the massive deflection??

Yep.. BUT.. the inital cockup was carraghers to give the ballback wasnt it.


What like inept defendin by Vidic cost you in the semis.

You mean Vidic who had just come back from a major injury in a makeshift defence.. but of course...


We are playing fine.
Better than when Milan totally outclassed Man U in the semis hey?

1st game - dont think they did to be honest
2nd game - a lot of our first team defence was out injured were they not?


We are there and you are not!! Dont be bitter, just try and be neutral and admit that we are the better team tonight, although we are losing through a lucky goal

:D - But I'd rather lose in the semi's to be honest - to get so close, and then blow it eh! ... And the 1st half you just shaded it, apart from the goal.. the 2nd half- milan were better.

come on ang, dont rub every red necks nose in it because of daftpaul..

come on ang, dont rub every red necks nose in it because of daftpaul..

Give over!
After all the '5 times' stuff the Liverpool fans have been giving it large... you must be joking fella :D

If you cant take it back - dont hand it out, thats my advice :thumbsup:

mate im a blue

mate im a blue

Just remembered - so I edited it above ^ hehehe :D

Something has just come to mind - why are the presenting the trophy in the stands and not on the pitch??

Excellent, the best team won in my opinion.
I'm looking forward to collecting my winnings from the bookies tomorrow too :hihi:

Excellent, the best team won in my opinion.
I'm looking forward to collecting my winnings from the bookies tomorrow too :hihi:

Nice one mate - how much will you be getting back?

lol :D

anyway im watching repeats of top gear on virgincentral now..

Also - any idea what that milan song is called that they are playing now?

platini said they should go back to the old way of presenting the trophy.

platini said they should go back to the old way of presenting the trophy.

Ahh I see!
Cheers for clearing that up mate :D

Something has just come to mind - why are the presenting the trophy in the stands and not on the pitch??
So nobody recognises it for what it is (http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/sports/images/miscellaneous/trophy-swimmer3.jpg) :rolleyes:

So nobody recognises it for what it is (http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/sports/images/miscellaneous/trophy-swimmer3.jpg) :rolleyes:

Thats the only trophy in the cupboard this season isnt it strixy :D

But I'd rather lose in the semi's to be honest

Do you wish you lost to Watford in the FA cup semi final? I'd rather make the final.

Could we also possibly say now.. that Liverpool fluked the last CL win - by winning on pens?

Do you wish you lost to Watford in the FA cup semi final? I'd rather make the final.

To be honest, god yes!
I would have loved to see us - full strength to go into the final.

Could we also possibly say now.. that Liverpool fluked the last CL win - by winning on pens?

I agree. It's a bit like another team who fluked a win by scoreing twice in the last min, after they were completly dominated by Bayern Munich for 89mins.

I agree. It's a bit like another team who fluked a win by scoreing twice in the last min, after they were completly dominated by Bayern Munich for 89mins.

We didnt need pens though did we fella.. we managed to score, from two corners through a great team effort.

But then again, least we won it - not like some teams I can mention...
:D

We didnt need pens though did we fella.. we managed to score, from two corners through a great team effort.

But then again, least we won it - not like some teams I can mention...
:D

There is still time, Arsenal win win one day ;-)

Could we also possibly say now.. that Liverpool fluked the last CL win - by winning on pens?
of course (http://205.158.108.67/stuff/ROFL.jpg) :rolleyes:

What a good few days.

Chelsea beating Man Utd and now tonight.

Whats the link between the 2 losers.....Oh yes, they both rested players at the end of the season. Must have been lack of match fitness that did it then. :clap: :clap:

Something has just come to mind - why are the presenting the trophy in the stands and not on the pitch??

Platini's first big idea - no more pitch presentations in Europe.

And its jamie carragher who cocked up as well mate!
Bahahahaha!

Gutted, i really am!!
Ok, Carra made a mistake. Why is that so funny ANGELUS??

He has been immense season after season and when all said and done, Liverpool were the better team.

I realise i'm gonna take alot of stick on here the next few days but as i see it, we tried our best. Milan are a great side and won tonight, but can anybody on here put their hand on their heart and say Liverpool didn't give as good as they got??
Sorry people... im just gutted!!

I've got a pic as well for you all:
http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/ucl/542255_bigportrait.jpg

P.S!!

http://www.centrume.krakow.pl/~miba/mp3/Cori/UltrasMilan/forza_milan_milan_campione.mp3

Thanks to Dirk I scooped another £60 on the correct score.

£150 rtn AND a Pool defeat!!

What I can't understand is why Stevie didn't go down like a cheap whore and win a pen, just like against The Blades.

Oh well. :hihi:

Gutted, i really am!!
Ok, Carra made a mistake. Why is that so funny ANGELUS??

He has been immense season after season and when all said and done, Liverpool were the better team.

I realise i'm gonna take alot of stick on here the next few days but as i see it, we tried our best. Milan are a great side and won tonight, but can anybody on here put their hand on their heart and say Liverpool didn't give as good as they got??
Sorry people... im just gutted!!

Hang on a minute :D

You said Carragher was world class did you not?
AND that liverpool ALWAYS rise to the occasion against big teams?

Point A - debatable
Point B - Not tonight it seems and we beat you TWICE this season did we not

You will take a lot of stick dont worry about that - and thats because you brought it on yourself fella :D

Gutted, i really am!!
Ok, Carra made a mistake. Why is that so funny ANGELUS??

He has been immense season after season and when all said and done, Liverpool were the better team.

I realise i'm gonna take alot of stick on here the next few days but as i see it, we tried our best. Milan are a great side and won tonight, but can anybody on here put their hand on their heart and say Liverpool didn't give as good as they got??
Sorry people... im just gutted!!


Congratulations though for making the final, I wish we were there.

P.S!!

http://www.centrume.krakow.pl/~miba/mp3/Cori/UltrasMilan/forza_milan_milan_campione.mp3

Thanks to Dirk I scooped another £60 on the correct score.

£150 rtn AND a Pool defeat!!

Cheers for the sound clip and a good night for you mate deffo :D

What I can't understand is why Stevie didn't go down like a cheap whore and win a pen, just like against The Blades.

Oh well. :hihi:

I thought that as well :D
Good stuff!

Congratulations though for making the final, I wish we were there.

I'll go on record here - you will NEVER win that cup in the next 10 years, simply because you just arent good enough when it counts fella :D

We didnt need pens though did we fella.. we managed to score, from two corners through a great team effort.

But then again, least we won it - not like some teams I can mention...
:D

:hihi: :hihi:
yeah cos Liverpool can't win it??

Mate, I congratulated Man U fans when you won the league because it was deserved!! It just shows what a bitter, immature prat you really are.
Please don't say things like the above because our record makes your's look silly.
ANGELUS, well done winning the league, but please give credit where it is due.
If J Redknapp, R Hullitt and G Souness can admit we were the best team tonight, surely you can!!

Liverpool were very unlucky tonight. TBH I thought they were going to get mauled but fair play to them. They were definitely the better team in the first half. At least they can hold their heads up which is more than Man U can do.

Liverpool were very unlucky tonight. TBH I thought they were going to get mauled but fair play to them. They were definitely the better team in the first half. At least they can hold their heads up which is more than Man U can do.

Seeing as we BEAT Milan in the first game - I think that cancels that comment to be fair :D

We beat the champions of europe + even better, beat the losing finalists TWICE in the league this year dontcha know!

Liverpool were very unlucky tonight. TBH I thought they were going to get mauled but fair play to them. They were definitely the better team in the first half. At least they can hold their heads up which is more than Man U can do.

Why, because they haven't won the league in nearly two decades?
But they have won NOTHING this season??

We were missing 3 first choice defenders against Milan, plus our main striker.
Take Agger, Carragher, Finnan and Kuyt out of Liverpools team tonight.
Do they win?? No.

Milan also played badly tonight. They couldnt string a pass together.

Seeing as we BEAT Milan in the first game - I think that cancels that comment to be fair :D

We beat the champions of europe + even better, beat the losing finalists TWICE in the league this year dontcha know!

but you cocked it up in the 2nd leg "to be fair"

I'll go on record here - you will NEVER win that cup in the next 10 years, simply because you just arent good enough when it counts fella :D

And as your record proves... neither will Man U. Infact your all on qualifying mate so don't come the 'we are the best' ****e on here.

Why, because they haven't won the league in nearly two decades?
But they have won NOTHING this season??

We were missing 3 first choice defenders against Milan, plus our main striker.
Take Agger, Carragher, Finnan and Kuyt out of Liverpools team tonight.
Do they win?? No.

Milan also played badly tonight. They couldnt string a pass together.

What the man says ^
Agreed :thumbsup:

I'll go on record here - you will NEVER win that cup in the next 10 years, simply because you just arent good enough when it counts fella :D

I think your getting carried away with your schadenfreude. Why don't you go to the book makers and put that bet on? We havn't done that badly in Europe recently, 3 Champions league semi-finals in 4 years; and being knocked out by the winners in the other year. It's only a matter of time before we win a few Champions leagues

but you cocked it up in the 2nd leg "to be fair"

Because our best defensive players were out and Vidic had only just come back from a major injury...

And as your record proves... neither will Man U. Infact your all on qualifying mate so don't come the 'we are the best' ****e on here.

Maybe not fella - we have the league to win now :D
Still.. champions of england though.. it has a certain brilliant ring to it right there.

I think your getting carried away with your schadenfreude. Why don't you go to the book makers and put that bet on? We havn't done that badly in Europe recently, 3 Champions league semi-finals in 4 years; and being knocked out by the winners in the other year. It's only a matter of time before we win a few Champions leagues

I might just take that bet up to be honest :D
I'll investigate and see what the odds are.

You just wont win it - you always fail at the last hurdle year after year, and after losing the prem, your not 'untouchable' anymore.

Seeing as we BEAT Milan in the first game - I think that cancels that comment to be fair :D

We beat the champions of europe + even better, beat the losing finalists TWICE in the league this year dontcha know!

And Liverpool beat Chelsea in the League this season, twice in the CL once in the FA Cup semi final, yet they beat you??

And Liverpool beat Chelsea in the League this season, twice in the CL once in the FA Cup semi final, yet they beat you??

Its all good though - because at the end of the day.. we finished the season with a trophy... but back to you though :D

Here - to make up for it:
Just for the liverpool fans... print this out, cut it out and pretend that you've gone back in time :D

http://urindar.sytes.net/photosV2/_miscelanea/uploaded/2006/misc/Champions%20League%20Cup-762544.jpg

I might just take that bet up to be honest :D
I'll investigate and see what the odds are.

You just wont win it - you always fail at the last hurdle year after year, and after losing the prem, your not 'untouchable' anymore.
Can you please explain how we fail year after year??
Having won more trophies than Man U over recent years i would say you are talking totall ****e.
ANGULUS, look at your posts before the final!!
You are a two faced gimp that gets off on everyone's opinions.
You really are thick mate!!

I might just take that bet up to be honest :D
I'll investigate and see what the odds are.

You just wont win it - you always fail at the last hurdle year after year, and after losing the prem, your not 'untouchable' anymore.

Only a fool would say that:

you will NEVER win that cup in the next 10 years

How can anybody say that without looking foolish. You should really have said:

I don't think that you will win the Champions league in the next ten years

Can you please explain how we fail year after year??
Having won more trophies than Man U over recent years i would say you are talking totall ****e.
ANGULUS, look at your posts before the final!!
You are a two faced gimp that gets off on everyone's opinions.
You really are thick mate!!

I was talking to chelsea fan - jfkvsnixon was I not.. or have you lost the power to read as well now :D

Having won more trophies... blah blah blah.. same old same old :roll:
You've not won the league
You've not won the FA Cup
You've not won the Carling Cup
AND now you've blown the Champions league as well .... doing well there :D

Its called 'reading' - I'll spell it as well for you in case your missing your peter and jane books... R, E, A, D, I, N, G .. its the art of looking at words and sentences - you can clearly see I was referring to Chelsea's botchup year after year in the CL can you not :thumbsup:

Enjoy your night - I know I will :D

Because our best defensive players were out and Vidic had only just come back from a major injury...

Same reason you won the League!!
Terry injured
Both Chelsea Goalkeepers injured.
Charvalho injured
Shevi - hated by manager
Ballack - as above.
Robben - out all season.
Essien (one of best midfielders around) playing in defence
Cole - injured all season.

Shall i go on??

Only a fool would say that:

Only a fool would bet on chelsea winning the CL though to be fair :thumbsup:

How can anybody say that without looking foolish. You should really have said:

Nope - I'll go with my original statement, chelsea wont win the CL in the next 10 years.. you just wont do it, and I will put a bet on that as well to back that up.

Can you please explain how we fail year after year??
Having won more trophies than Man U over recent years i would say you are talking totall ****e.
ANGULUS, look at your posts before the final!!
You are a two faced gimp that gets off on everyone's opinions.
You really are thick mate!!

More trophies than Man Utd in recent years? Hmm.

P.S - This wont happen to Pool now!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/543368.stm

Here - to make up for it:
Just for the liverpool fans... print this out, cut it out and pretend that you've gone back in time :D

http://urindar.sytes.net/photosV2/_miscelanea/uploaded/2006/misc/Champions%20League%20Cup-762544.jpg

Why are you like this now ??
Not so long ago you were actually being a decent kid.
You must just have been scared that we would win so you were being alright as to not to take any ****e.
Just shows what a two faced t**t you really are!!

Same reason you won the League!!
Terry injured
Both Chelsea Goalkeepers injured.
Charvalho injured
Shevi - hated by manager
Ballack - as above.
Robben - out all season.
Essien (one of best midfielders around) playing in defence
Cole - injured all season.

Shall i go on??

Oh give over.. chelsea supposedly have a bigger squad dont they?

* Terry was injured a couple of times and still came back
* Not our problem that chelsea dont seem to buy keepers
* Carvalho is replaceable in his position
* Shevchenko - waste of a good player and cash this season- will be going back to Milan!
* Ballack - as predicted by moi .. another flop - ruined by chelsea
* Robben - has been going downhill for a while, and I found people's comments that he was better than ronaldo laughable for a good few years now
* Essien - is being played out of position, blame Mourinho the mong for that one :D

Please continue... but arent we talking about 'pool's match tonight on this thread- maybe we should go back to the OP!

I was talking to chelsea fan - jfkvsnixon was I not.. or have you lost the power to read as well now :D

Having won more trophies... blah blah blah.. same old same old :roll:
You've not won the league
You've not won the FA Cup
You've not won the Carling Cup
AND now you've blown the Champions league as well .... doing well there :D

Its called 'reading' - I'll spell it as well for you in case your missing your peter and jane books... R, E, A, D, I, N, G .. its the art of looking at words and sentences - you can clearly see I was referring to Chelsea's botchup year after year in the CL can you not :thumbsup:

Enjoy your night - I know I will :D

Why have Man U got a great record in the CL you prat ??

Why are you like this now ??
Not so long ago you were actually being a decent kid.
You must just have been scared that we would win so you were being alright as to not to take any ****e.
Just shows what a two faced t**t you really are!!

I did warn you ages ago did I not what its like on here if you say summat and then it goes the way of the pear - do you remember?

You cant expect not to get the mick taken out of you if you give it large and then lose - come on now :D

Why have Man U got a great record in the CL you prat ??

Since we are going for the flashbacks into the past - 1999

+ This year.. best performance ever by a british side... lets see any of the other 'big teams' in the UK emulate that then :D

Can someone find me a picture of Maldini lifting the cup tonight pretty please..

Found one but I think its an old one though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39093000/jpg/_39093886_trophy300.jpg

More trophies than Man Utd in recent years? Hmm.

P.S - This wont happen to Pool now!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/543368.stm
Yeah.... check trophies won since 2000!!

Chelsea's botchup year after year in the CL

A botch up would be getting knocked out in quarter-finals in 02/03, in the first knockout round 03/04, the first knockout round again in 04/05, and then bottem of their group 05/06. Your recent record in Europe is third rate, so I would keep quiet about it if I was you or you might end up looking a bit foolish.

Oh give over.. chelsea supposedly have a bigger squad dont they?

* Terry was injured a couple of times and still came back
* Not our problem that chelsea dont seem to buy keepers
* Carvalho is replaceable in his position
* Shevchenko - waste of a good player and cash this season- will be going back to Milan!
* Ballack - as predicted by moi .. another flop - ruined by chelsea
* Robben - has been going downhill for a while, and I found people's comments that he was better than ronaldo laughable for a good few years now
* Essien - is being played out of position, blame Mourinho the mong for that one :D

Please continue... but arent we talking about 'pool's match tonight on this thread- maybe we should go back to the OP!

You hit the nail on the head!!
You do talk so much **** lol
when u sober up, read what you have posted above lol
What a prat u r LOL LOL LOL LOL

Since we are going for the flashbacks into the past - 1999

+ This year.. best performance ever by a british side... lets see any of the other 'big teams' in the UK emulate that then :D

OK .... lifting the cup in 05 and competing in the final 07.
You are ****** mate :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

* Terry was injured a couple of times and still came back
* Not our problem that chelsea dont seem to buy keepers
* Carvalho is replaceable in his position
* Shevchenko - waste of a good player and cash this season- will be going back to Milan!
* Ballack - as predicted by moi .. another flop - ruined by chelsea
* Robben - has been going downhill for a while, and I found people's comments that he was better than ronaldo laughable for a good few years now
* Essien - is being played out of position, blame Mourinho the mong for that one :D


With all these problems, and you only just won the league; you make it sound like a magnificent effort by Chelsea.

Yeah.... check trophies won since 2000!!

Checked- from 1999 - here it is:

MU:
4 Prems
2 FA Cups
1 League Cup
1 Community Shield
1 CL
1 Intercontinental/World Club Championships

'Pool:
Prems - 0
Fa Cup - 2
League Cup - 2
Community Shield - 2
CL - 1
UEFA Cup - 1
Super Cups - 2

10 Again!

If we are discounting community shields however - we have 9 trophies and you have 8

A botch up would be getting knocked out in quarter-finals in 02/03, in the first knockout round 03/04, the first knockout round again in 04/05, and then bottem of their group 05/06. Your recent record in Europe is third rate, so I would keep quiet about it if I was you or you might end up looking a bit foolish.

Nope.. will still keep to the comment I gave earlier.. you just wont win it - my money will go on the bet as well.

OK .... lifting the cup in 05 and competing in the final 07.
You are ****** mate :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

No.. you won it on pens- AFTER shevchenko blew it, by the way!
And you lost in the final tonight - well done lad really :D

With all these problems, and you only just won the league; you make it sound like a magnificent effort by Chelsea.

By a good few points as well wasnt it that we won :D
You blew the title like you have done in the CL as well for the past few years fella.

Well, you wonderful wonderful people.. I am off to the land of nod now.. safe in the knowledge that 'Pool have come away with zilch again this season :D

Just a quick quote from someone who must be a born loser:
Its the taking part that counts

Yeah right ... its all about the winning baby!!
Forza Milan ... champione :D

When all is said and done, Milan were lucky to win tonight, the first goal was lucky to say the least, and Milan looked massively disjointed in the first half.
Whatever Ancelotti said at half time made a big difference to Milan and Liverpool just wasn't the same team in the second half.
Liverpool had a great chance to win the European cup tonight and fell quite short in the end, fair does to Milan though it was a proffesional performance.
If it had gone to extra time i think Liverpool may well have come up trumps.
Look on the brightside Liverpool supporters, you have a lot more promise than Milan, Maldini, Seedorf,Inzhagi,Nesta won't be easy to replace in one fail swoop.

Nope.. will still keep to the comment I gave earlier.. you just wont win it - my money will go on the bet as well.

Are you serious? You would rather have:

knocked out in quarter-finals in 02/03, in the first knockout round 03/04, the first knockout round again in 04/05, and then bottem of their group 05/06.

than

3 Champions league semi-finals in 4 years and being knocked out by the winners in the other year.

Hmmmm, a bit of a no brainer. ANGELUS why didn't Ronaldo play last saturday? Was he injured?

So Paul, What happened to Fowler on the bench? No respect that man Benitez. That was the last time Robbie could have played in a CL final and it was taken away from him. Liverpool could probably have done with his grafting tonight, the "oldies" of Milan did alright though. What a loyal player Maldini is, 22 years at the same club and 38 yo.

Incredible. I'm a Bluenose and decided to look at this thread this morning to have a little chuckle at the expense of my red neighbours. I've actually come away with an intense dislike of a particular Manchester Utd fan. Well done Angelus, you've just done a pretty good job of confirming every horrible stereotype which other football fans have of MU fans; ie arrogant, blinkered and mis-informed. Have you actually even ever been to a football match? Because you strike me as the ultimate armchair supporter, and I mean that in a bad way!

Anyhoo - comiserations to my Liverpool brethern (god, that sticks in the throat!). My Dad and our kid are rednoses, so I know how they'll be feeling this morning.

Well done Angelus - you've managed to single-handedly reinforce my, and probably many other SF'ers, opinion that most Manchester United fans are ill-informed gobsh*tes.

The best team won, it's that simple.

We can have no complaints as the team did their level best, but it wasn't enough. I think we've known all year that we need a top striker, last night the world found that out too.

Congratulations Milan, see you in Moscow :)

As a side note, I'm very worried by the news that several hundred fans weren't allowed into the stadium last night despite holding tickets for the game. The Police closed the stadium 20 mins before kick off because it was 'full'.

Now, it would be bad enough if you'd gone with the club for £700 all in, but Sky mentioned last night that one pair of tickets swapped hands for €9,000....just how annoyed would you be?!

I just hope everyone I know got into the ground.

Incredible. I'm a Bluenose and decided to look at this thread this morning to have a little chuckle at the expense of my red neighbours. I've actually come away with an intense dislike of a particular Manchester Utd fan. Well done Angelus, you've just done a pretty good job of confirming every horrible stereotype which other football fans have of MU fans; ie arrogant, blinkered and mis-informed. Have you actually even ever been to a football match? Because you strike me as the ultimate armchair supporter, and I mean that in a bad way!

Anyhoo - comiserations to my Liverpool brethern (god, that sticks in the throat!). My Dad and our kid are rednoses, so I know how they'll be feeling this morning.

Well done Angelus - you've managed to single-handedly reinforce my, and probably many other SF'ers, opinion that most Manchester United fans are ill-informed gobsh*tes.

Johnny - whilst you're quite right about ANGELEUS (including the armchair fan comments!!) there is at least one Man U fan on these boards who possesses the knowledge and good grace that seem to perpetually escape our ANGIE.....

Incredible. I'm a Bluenose.......Anyhoo - comiserations to my Liverpool brethern (god, that sticks in the throat!). My Dad and our kid are rednoses, so I know how they'll be feeling this morning.


im a blue and our kid and dad are reds too :D

I thought Liverpool were very gracious last night, almost as if they realised how lucky they were last time round.

The handshakes were a nice touch. Good to see Gatusso was to busy worrying a stick and gnawing on a bone to bother lifting the trophy.

The best team won, it's that simple.

We can have no complaints as the team did their level best, but it wasn't enough. I think we've known all year that we need a top striker, last night the world found that out too.

Congratulations Milan, see you in Moscow :)

The ironic thing is that you played better last night, than you did 2 years ago; and Milan played a lot worse. I thought if Cisse' was still at your club his pace may have made a difference.

Don't loose sight that getting to the final is a massive achievement, as I mentioned earlier I only wish that we were there; but we always meet an annoying team in the semi-final.

Nice one mate - how much will you be getting back?
I only put the bet on yesterday afternoon and the odds were 4/6 for Milan to win the cup. I put £40 on and will be collecting £66.67 shortly :bigsmile:

Thank you Liverpool for choking at the crucial moment ;)

im a blue and our kid and dad are reds too :D

You know how it is then mate. If the result had gone the other way last night, I would have ostracised myself from the family for about a fortnight!

The ironic thing is that you played better last night, than you did 2 years ago; and Milan played a lot worse. I thought if Cisse' was still at your club his pace may have made a difference.

Don't loose sight that getting to the final is a massive achievement, as I mentioned earlier I only wish that we were there; but we always meet an annoying team in the semi-final.

Indeed, I expect us to get Torres this summer, so hopefully that will correct our goal scoring problem. Rumours abound that Cisse may be exchanged for Simao, which would be a canny piece of business; in light of Rafa's dim view of Cisse.

Thanks for the kind words, Who knows, you may meet us later next time, I don't want to play you in Moscow though, that would be a horrible situation :hihi:

I thought Liverpool were very gracious last night, almost as if they realised how lucky they were last time round.

The handshakes were a nice touch. Good to see Gatusso was to busy worrying a stick and gnawing on a bone to bother lifting the trophy.

Cheers, I thought the guard of honour (can you call it that?!) afforded to us by Milan was a great touch.

Where was Gattuso last night??

I heard a rumour he was off hunting for a saucer of milk....

You know how it is then mate. If the result had gone the other way last night, I would have ostracised myself from the family for about a fortnight!

yeah my phone would have been turned straight off :rolleyes:

Are you serious? You would rather have

Nope.. read what I said...
I've gone with 'You wont win the CL in the next 10 years' - did I or did I not say that, and I am sticking to it.

No excuses, both our clubs have not won the CL - whichever way you want to look at it - we both havent brought the cup back to english soil.

End of.

Forgot to mention:
Good morning lads and lasses - and what a beautiful fine day it is today-

The sun was shining brightly this morning, the birds were singing - what a wonderful day to be alive on :D

Incredible. I'm a Bluenose and decided to look at this thread this morning to have a little chuckle at the expense of my red neighbours. I've actually come away with an intense dislike of a particular Manchester Utd fan. Well done Angelus, you've just done a pretty good job of confirming every horrible stereotype which other football fans have of MU fans; ie arrogant, blinkered and mis-informed. Have you actually even ever been to a football match? Because you strike me as the ultimate armchair supporter, and I mean that in a bad way!

Anyhoo - comiserations to my Liverpool brethern (god, that sticks in the throat!). My Dad and our kid are rednoses, so I know how they'll be feeling this morning.

Well done Angelus - you've managed to single-handedly reinforce my, and probably many other SF'ers, opinion that most Manchester United fans are ill-informed gobsh*tes.

Its interesting, because you seem to actual think that I care :D
I really dont care what people think of me - thats the whole point to it.

BUT.. the problem is, if you mouth of about liverpool being this and that like one certain person has on here, then its hunting season come the time they cock up - ie: last night.

Johnny - whilst you're quite right about ANGELEUS (including the armchair fan comments!!) there is at least one Man U fan on these boards who possesses the knowledge and good grace that seem to perpetually escape our ANGIE.....

And how has your mourning (note the pun) been so far? :D

You seem to forget my un-learned SF aquaintance, most of what I have said on here has come to pass has it not... or maybe your scouse mind cant intellectually understand that :thumbsup:

I only put the bet on yesterday afternoon and the odds were 4/6 for Milan to win the cup. I put £40 on and will be collecting £66.67 shortly :bigsmile:

Thank you Liverpool for choking at the crucial moment ;)

Nice one fella!
Enjoy your winnings :thumbsup:

Indeed, I expect us to get Torres this summer, so hopefully that will correct our goal scoring problem. Rumours abound that Cisse may be exchanged for Simao, which would be a canny piece of business; in light of Rafa's dim view of Cisse.

Thanks for the kind words, Who knows, you may meet us later next time, I don't want to play you in Moscow though, that would be a horrible situation :hihi:

WHY would Torres come to you may I ask?
When he wants to join a BIG club....

Interesting indeed, that you havent won anything of interest for a while now so why do you think he would pick you over playing for us - since we are linked with him after all.

Simao - I can definitely see that happening to be honest.

As a spectacle, the final was disappointing. Liverpool looked the more likely to score in the first half but never looked like recovering after Inzaghi's fluke goal. His second was great, though Liverpool didn't seem to be up for it.

Next season should be interesting.

Man Utd will no doubt be strengthened by the arrival of Hargreaves, (surely Ferguson can't whinge about clubs sniffing around Ronaldo after this) and I can imagine a new striker is on the horizon to replace Saha.

Chelsea are likely going to change a few things, I think another defender and possibly striker. Perhaps Schevchenko and Ballack will come good. It's good to see them sign Sidwell.

Liverpool are going to have money to spend and Benitez has already said the board are backing him on some big signings. Looks like Zenden, Fowler, Gonzales and Dudek are on their way out so he'll need replacements.

And to add further spice to the mix, Newcastle are in the process of being taken over by a billionaire, with Man City and Arsenal having major investment / takeovers too.

WHY would Torres come to you may I ask?
When he wants to join a BIG club....

Interesting indeed, that you havent won anything of interest for a while now so why do you think he would pick you over playing for us - since we are linked with him after all.

Simao - I can definitely see that happening to be honest.

Yawn....

Torres is a Liverpool fan. That's why.

We won the FA Cup and European Super Cup last season, and got to the final of the CL again this year.

You know, I find it fascinating that you are more obsessed with every team other than the one you 'support', I really do.

And how has your mourning (note the pun) been so far? :D

You seem to forget my un-learned SF aquaintance, most of what I have said on here has come to pass has it not... or maybe your scouse mind cant intellectually understand that :thumbsup:

Hey, if you throw enough sh*t, some will stick. I can dig that.

As a spectacle, the final was disappointing. Liverpool looked the more likely to score in the first half but never looked like recovering after Inzaghi's fluke goal. His second was great, though Liverpool didn't seem to be up for it.

Next season should be interesting.

Man Utd will no doubt be strengthened by the arrival of Hargreaves, (surely Ferguson can't whinge about clubs sniffing around Ronaldo after this) and I can imagine a new striker is on the horizon to replace Saha.

Chelsea are likely going to change a few things, I think another defender and possibly striker. Perhaps Schevchenko and Ballack will come good. It's good to see them sign Sidwell.

Liverpool are going to have money to spend and Benitez has already said the board are backing him on some big signings. Looks like Zenden, Fowler, Gonzales and Dudek are on their way out so he'll need replacements.

And to add further spice to the mix, Newcastle are in the process of being taken over by a billionaire, with Man City and Arsenal having major investment / takeovers too.

I agree with your point about Liverpool - and I think Hargreaves will aid in someway, but I still think one of our mistakes this season was selling Ruud - he added a lot of goals per season, and was not as injury prone as Saha who again, got injured when we needed him the most which was not a surprise for me to be honest.

And now.. we are looking at Huntelaar from Ajax who to be honest, is a Ruud clone.

Agreed with chelsea- although if mrs shevchenko has anything to do with it ie: zidane's wife as well - he will be returning to Milan before the new season.. and sidwell... another talent to be wasted sitting on the bench.

Liverpool - I dont think will have mega millions to spend, and I dont think will attract the big name players, but I like Rafa Benitez - and I trust him to bring some decent players in somewhere along the line.

Yawn....

Torres is a Liverpool fan. That's why.

We won the FA Cup and European Super Cup last season, and got to the final of the CL again this year.

You know, I find it fascinating that you are more obsessed with every team other than the one you 'support', I really do.

I think your going on the rumour arent you that 'allegedly' Torres wears a wristband with 'You'll never walk alone' on the inside... which has yet to be proven fella.

I've heard the same rumour that he is supposed to be a big liverpool fan, yet has already said to his chairman that he is interested in coming to US.. its up to fergie and the glazier team to get him in if needed.

Your trophies are in the past - thats your lots problem, your still living on past memories and glories where as we, are successful now.

I like to be interested in the premiership as a whole - I love MU as they are my team,dont get me wrong, but I like to check out the other teams to see whats going on.

I agree with your point about Liverpool - and I think Hargreaves will aid in someway, but I still think one of our mistakes this season was selling Ruud - he added a lot of goals per season, and was not as injury prone as Saha who again, got injured when we needed him the most which was not a surprise for me to be honest.

And now.. we are looking at Huntelaar from Ajax who to be honest, is a Ruud clone.

Agreed with chelsea- although if mrs shevchenko has anything to do with it ie: zidane's wife as well - he will be returning to Milan before the new season.. and sidwell... another talent to be wasted sitting on the bench.

Liverpool - I dont think will have mega millions to spend, and I dont think will attract the big name players, but I like Rafa Benitez - and I trust him to bring some decent players in somewhere along the line.

Huntelaar is not a Ruud clone. Much more mobile.
As I said a thousand times, Ruud didnt suit the way we wanted to play.

We are far pacier without him, although we should have bought someone to replace him. The mistake we made is not doing that. United with Saha when fit were much more of a threat than with Ruud. The only trouble is our back up for Saha was Smith, who is utter garbage.

In addition, Ruud hated Ronaldo. I think it is no coincidence that Ronaldo has expressed himself much more since Ruud left.
Ruud will always score goals, but suits some teams more than others.

I think your going on the rumour arent you that 'allegedly' Torres wears a wristband with 'You'll never walk alone' on the inside... which has yet to be proven fella.

I've heard the same rumour that he is supposed to be a big liverpool fan, yet has already said to his chairman that he is interested in coming to US.. its up to fergie and the glazier team to get him in if needed.

Your trophies are in the past - thats your lots problem, your still living on past memories and glories where as we, are successful now.

I like to be interested in the premiership as a whole - I love MU as they are my team,dont get me wrong, but I like to check out the other teams to see whats going on.

I'm not providing a direct link to the most likely source as I refuse to boost their site traffic directly....but here you go, you'll find a photo on one of these pages.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=torres+armband&meta=

Huntelaar is not a Ruud clone. Much more mobile.
As I said a thousand times, Ruud didnt suit the way we wanted to play.

We are far pacier without him, although we should have bought someone to replace him. The mistake we made is not doing that.

In addition, Ruud hated Ronaldo. I think it is no coincidence that Ronaldo has expressed himself much more since Ruud left.
Ruud will always score goals, but suits some teams more than others.

Huntelaar is a ruud clone for the simple reason I've watched him a good few times this season, he is as near to Ruud as you can get at the moment- a lot quicker version might I add!

The problem is - fitting him into the squad now, as you said, we are a faster attacking side without ruud agreed - but to have Saha as one of our main strikers, I find totally laughable - the bloke is an injury crisis waiting to happen, and as usual- it happens when we need him the most.

We need to get rid of him and get someone better in.

Agreed- I think there was something going off between ruud and ronaldo as well.

I'm not providing a direct link to the most likely source as I refuse to boost their site traffic directly....but here you go, you'll find a photo on one of these pages.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=torres+armband&meta=

Post #83 fella :D

I don't see Torres signing for any English club really.

I don't see Torres signing for any English club really.

I agree with you - in a sense that I dont think we will go for him, and Liverpool especially cant afford him.

Post #83 fella :D

Is this a compliment?! :o :D

I agree with you - in a sense that I dont think we will go for him, and Liverpool especially cant afford him.

No, of course we can't....I mean, it's not like Rafa has £40M+ to spend even before he offloads some of the dead woo....oh

Is this a compliment?! :o :D

Ermm.. noo...
Check post 83# that was made on the top forum on the link you gave me.

The one that says 'Think someone has been busy with Photoshop' or something along those lines :thumbsup:

No, of course we can't....I mean, it's not like Rafa has £40M+ to spend even before he offloads some of the dead woo....oh

Can you really see Rafa spending over £15 on Torres?

It could cost I reckon, £15-20m to prize him away from the club - not to mention, he's going to want better wages than Stevie G as well - which wont go down well.

Tell you who I did like yesterday from 'pool - Daniel Agger.. the more I see him play, I think he is getting better and better... good player that lad!

Sorry to throw this in, but there's a great statistic about a football club on this old Guinness video I posted on another thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7rfitdqpzs

Ermm.. noo...
Check post 83# that was made on the top forum on the link you gave me.

The one that says 'Think someone has been busy with Photoshop' or something along those lines :thumbsup:

Ya big girl! Admit it, you love me.

Can you really see Rafa spending over £15 on Torres?

It could cost I reckon, £15-20m to prize him away from the club - not to mention, he's going to want better wages than Stevie G as well - which wont go down well.

Tell you who I did like yesterday from 'pool - Daniel Agger.. the more I see him play, I think he is getting better and better... good player that lad!

Yes, I can see him paying the full £27M that he would cost.

He wont want more than Stevie G, nor will he get it.

Dan Agger is a decent prospect, needs to come on a bit more though, hence the links to Millito.

Sorry to throw this in, but there's a great statistic about a football club on this old Guinness video I posted on another thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7rfitdqpzs

I take it - your on about the 97% of man utd fans that have not been to old trafford then :roll:

Again, as I've said many many times before - we are a global club with global support, you cant really expect every chinese, norweigan, US, or more worldwide fan to come over and visit OT can you really - it just wouldnt happen.

So while I agree with the 97% - you've got to take under consideration, WHY they wouldnt be able to visit OT :D

Ya big girl! Admit it, you love me.

I would miss you if you werent on here - but thats as far as it goes :D

Yes, I can see him paying the full £27M that he would cost.

He wont want more than Stevie G, nor will he get it.

Dan Agger is a decent prospect, needs to come on a bit more though, hence the links to Millito.

I cant see him getting £27m in the first place fella :D

He will want more than stevie G - because he is the 'idol' at Athletico Madrid and will want the most cash at liverpool for switching over - I reckon, £80k a week MINIMUM, but thats my first guess.

Dan Agger - keep that bloke!

I cant see him getting £27m in the first place fella :D

He will want more than stevie G - because he is the 'idol' at Athletico Madrid and will want the most cash at liverpool for switching over - I reckon, £80k a week MINIMUM, but thats my first guess.

Dan Agger - keep that bloke!

As I've said, £40M+

And Gerrard is on £120,000 - so there goes your theory!!

We will, don't worry.

I take it - your on about the 97% of man utd fans that have not been to old trafford then :roll:

Again, as I've said many many times before - we are a global club with global support, you cant really expect every chinese, norweigan, US, or more worldwide fan to come over and visit OT can you really - it just wouldnt happen.

So while I agree with the 97% - you've got to take under consideration, WHY they wouldnt be able to visit OT :D

Point taken, though I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of Man Utd fans in England have never been to Old Trafford, or any Man Utd game full stop.

As I've said, £40M+
And Gerrard is on £120,000 - so there goes your theory!!
We will, don't worry.

Torres will want to be the best paid - trust me on this, if Stevie G is on 120k a week, he will want to be higher than that.

But we shall see - If I am wrong and you sign the bloke, I will take my hat off to you :D

Point taken, though I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of Man Utd fans in England have never been to Old Trafford, or any Man Utd game full stop.

If this is circling round to me again - yes I have been to a United game :D

Remember- you stated 'any' Man Utd game - this includes the reserves/other teams does it not :thumbsup:

Pennant & the Mascarino were Liverpools best players they played well.Finnan is a joke how he can even play in the PL is beyond me.He is always out of position.Benitez said he could not be bothered with our domestic cups such as our famous FA Cup & he got what he is deserved a season with nothing.

Huntelaar is a ruud clone for the simple reason I've watched him a good few times this season, he is as near to Ruud as you can get at the moment- a lot quicker version might I add!

The problem is - fitting him into the squad now, as you said, we are a faster attacking side without ruud agreed - but to have Saha as one of our main strikers, I find totally laughable - the bloke is an injury crisis waiting to happen, and as usual- it happens when we need him the most.

We need to get rid of him and get someone better in.

Agreed- I think there was something going off between ruud and ronaldo as well.


Thats exactly what i meant!!!
He isn't a Ruud clone because he is much quicker!

As such he can play on the shoulder of the last defender high up the pitch and turn em, something Ruud could never do.
And KVH isnt exactly new to the scene, I had a good chat with a Dutchman about him last summer on the Ferry on to the way to Germany for the World Cup.
He was surprised he hadnt been selected by Van Basten.

Torres will want to be the best paid - trust me on this, if Stevie G is on 120k a week, he will want to be higher than that.

But we shall see - If I am wrong and you sign the bloke, I will take my hat off to you :D

I'd really rather not trust you, conisdering you're making it up as you go along. He wil not demand to be the sole highest paid player at the club, Benitez doesn't sign prima Donnas.

Pennant & the Mascarino were Liverpools best players they played well.Finnan is a joke how he can even play in the PL is beyond me.He is always out of position.Benitez said he could not be bothered with our domestic cups such as our famous FA Cup & he got what he is deserved a season with nothing.

He didn't say that, he said he'd come to Liverpool to win bigger trophies than the league cup.

And as for the comment about Finnan, what planet are you on? He's one of the best right backs around.

Finnan the best right back around,he wasn't last night he was all over the place.And as for Benitez he said Domestic cup competitions that means the FA Cup as well,they may be small trophys & only winning them get you into the UEFA cup,but it means a lot to the smaller teams.And as for going for the PL next season he is living in dreamland.

Finnan the best right back around,he wasn't last night he was all over the place.And as for Benitez he said Domestic cup competitions that means the FA Cup as well,they may be small trophys & only winning them get you into the UEFA cup,but it means a lot to the smaller teams.And as for going for the PL next season he is living in dreamland.

Get back into your small team, small town box and concentrate on the championship instead of worrying about my team so much.

I'm sorry Rafa upset you by saying he's more interested in winning big trophies, but for gods sake, get over yourself - lest we forget your manager played a virtual youth side in the FA Cup this year.

Oh and you've now misquoted me as well as Rafa, I said Finnan is one of the best around. Which he is.

I didn't think Finnan played that badly. He was pushing up because Milan's left-back was having a shocker and was trying to capitalise on that.

Gary Neville does it and Ashley Cole does it all the time at left-back. You have to gamble in those positions.

Even Del Geary does it. Obviously to much lesser effect. :-)

Kaka's comments from last night:
http://www.acmilan-online.com - Check out the news section, a few articles down.

Oops.. even he thinks the 'pool final win last time was a fluke
I rest my case your honour :D

Kaka's comments from last night:
http://www.acmilan-online.com - Check out the news section, a few articles down.

Oops.. even he thinks the 'pool final win last time was a fluke
I rest my case your honour :D

Last time was not a fluke. Liverpool deserved it. What Kaka says is not the be all and end all.

If it is, then maybe he does 'Belong to Jesus'.

Thats exactly what i meant!!!
He isn't a Ruud clone because he is much quicker!

As such he can play on the shoulder of the last defender high up the pitch and turn em, something Ruud could never do.
And KVH isnt exactly new to the scene, I had a good chat with a Dutchman about him last summer on the Ferry on to the way to Germany for the World Cup.
He was surprised he hadnt been selected by Van Basten.

Fella - who the red devil is KVH?
Do you mean - Klaas Jan Huntelaar by any chance? :D

Unless there is another Huntelaar at Ajax that I havent seen??

Last time was not a fluke. Liverpool deserved it. What Kaka says is not the be all and end all.

If it is, then maybe he does 'Belong to Jesus'.

You gotta love the t-shirt - you've got have to have big steel balls to wear that thing LOL :D

Fella - who the red devil is KVH?
Do you mean - Klaas Jan Huntelaar by any chance? :D

Unless there is another Huntelaar at Ajax that I havent seen??

Jan/Van -all the same to me.
The point is Huntelaar is more mobile than Ruud, so would suit us better.

Jan/Van -all the same to me.
The point is Huntelaar is more mobile than Ruud, so would suit us better.

:D No worries!

You gotta love the t-shirt - you've got have to have big steel balls to wear that thing LOL :D

It certainly made me smile!

Did you see the fella with any spare tickets printed on his T shirt.

Did you see the fella with any spare tickets printed on his T shirt.

I did yeah. He should have gone to John Lennon airport, there were loads of spares there! Haha!

You know, I am glad I support a crappy non league side.

Childish talk of "no, we've won the most trophies, no we are the best" etc etc, coupled with talk of respectvie players playing for weekly amounts that would keep lesser sides a float for a year makes me want to vomit.

Rant over!

You know, I am glad I support a crappy non league side.

Childish talk of "no, we've won the most trophies, no we are the best" etc etc, coupled with talk of respectvie players playing for weekly amounts that would keep lesser sides a float for a year makes me want to vomit.

Rant over!


who is it you support?

So Paul, What happened to Fowler on the bench? No respect that man Benitez. That was the last time Robbie could have played in a CL final and it was taken away from him. loyal player Maldini
Benitez brought him back to his beloved club????
Without Benitez, Fowler would still be hoping and praying that someday he could pull on the red shirt of Liverpool. Benitez answered his prayers. How is that lack of respect.

Its interesting, because you seem to actual think that I care :D
I really dont care what people think of me - thats the whole point to it.

BUT.. the problem is, if you mouth of about liverpool being this and that like one certain person has on here, then its hunting season come the time they cock up - ie: last night.

Getting to the final and losing against a good team when overall being the better team is not cocking up!!
Leading in a semi final and then going to Milan and getting totally played off the park is indeed, cocking it up :D

WHY would Torres come to you may I ask?
When he wants to join a BIG club....

Interesting indeed, that you havent won anything of interest for a while now.
Angelus, we won the CL 2 years ago and played well enough to win it again last night??
FA Cup last season also and consistently qualifying for the CL season after season??
It's obvious we are only a couple of players short mate to mount a serious title challenge, so why wouldn't top players want to come to Liverpool??

who is it you support?

The less than mighty Kidderminster Harriers.

Mind you, we did get to Wembley this season!

Winning no trophy - now thats a cock up.

Any team that enters any competition and doesn't win has cocked up. They don't go into it to lose!

You gotta love the t-shirt - you've got have to have big steel balls to wear that thing LOL :D

Does this not bring up the third party ownership controversy that has surrounded Westsham and Tevez? The t shirt was clear, he said he belonged to Jesus even though he plays for Milan.

Is there a chance Milan will get disqualified? I doubt it very much. Once again there is one rule for the big clubs and one rule for the smaller clubs.

The less than mighty Kidderminster Harriers.


Where Lee Hughes started his career and Bob Taylor finished his.
Boing Boing.

Winning no trophy - now thats a cock up.

I'm inclined to agree, but I'm pleased we got to the final, nonetheless.

And we did win the Community Shield....LOL!!

I think your going on the rumour arent you that 'allegedly' Torres wears a wristband with 'You'll never walk alone' on the inside... which has yet to be proven fella..
A photograph in all national newspapers is not bad 'Proof'


Your trophies are in the past - thats your lots problem, your still living on past memories and glories where as we, are successful now..
Before your title win this season, Man U have won no more than Liverpool since 2000!! In this time we have won the CL and also just played in another final where we were the better team allbiet losing.
What are you talking about "you are living on past glories"???