View Full Version : What impression does our City have on an outsider?


matt1889
17-05-2007, 11:50
I recently brought my GF to see our beautiful City, and i was convinced that I could show her certain things that she might like and might even be impressed by, as we are now deciding on moving house and moving back home was one of the cards placed on the table.
But when we got to Sheffield she didnt like it one bit, we drove everywhere but I really failed to impress her, in fact in honesty she just found the place to be rather scary with Norwich being the biggest place shes lived in.
The things that she commented on such as Housing types, estates and litter around really opened my eyes when I compared it to Norwich, but I still think theres no place like home??? I mean it's not that bad is it??
Anyway she finished our little visit by saying that she would'nt really be interested in living in Sheffield as it was too scary???

So..............

What sort of impression do you think Sheffield has on an outsider, considering Charlottes comments and comments from visitors that you have had?

And is Sheffield really that bad?

Just so I can prove her wrong as well, Whats good about Sheffield in comparison to other places in the uk?

noisyandy
17-05-2007, 11:53
Where did you take her, the Manor and the Flower Estate? ;)

matt1889
17-05-2007, 11:57
Through the city centre, to the peace gardens and barkers pool areas cos they look nice....erm we then went down to the front of the train station.

Amongst other places we called into the woodseats palace wetherspoons when we were in the area, and went went to meadowhall????

erm we also went up ecclesall road, and to endcliffe park

The_DADDY
17-05-2007, 11:59
Sheffields a dump, a pit, the arse end of existence..
Told to me by a londoner who had lived in Sheffield for 10 years with no plans to move.:loopy:

nick2
17-05-2007, 12:03
My mates from london liked it when they came up here, one of them said "wow, trees, I saw one of those once in Hyde Park, I wonder if it's still there ?"

Matchstick
17-05-2007, 12:05
Being from a small country village I can see why Sheffield could be seen as being scarey, when I first moved here I found the size of it to be very overwhelming but I soon learnt that its a great place to live. The people are very friendly, there are fantastic places to go out, loads to do at the weekend and you're only 10 minutes away from the peak district.

coltsevers
17-05-2007, 12:06
Each year the amount of students who decide to stay in sheffield when their degrees finish goes up.
Sheffield is generally thought of as a very nice city with warm freindly people, but you did take her to woodseats palace I would expect she would have been on first train out of here

Tricky
17-05-2007, 12:08
Norwich is one of the dullest places I have ever been.

Maybe the thrill-a-minute hedonistic lifestyle in the city centre was too much for her to take. She might have felt far more at home in a traffic jam in Bents Green.

Sheffield's the only place I've wanted to live that wasn't 11,000 miles away from my family. I'd recommend you try and pursuade her again.

Foot
17-05-2007, 12:09
Its not just the environment that makes a place......it's the people too. People give a place its character.

I bet most of us have stopped off in a pretty village somewhere for a pint in the local hostelry and felt like we've walked into the Slaughtered Lamb

Foot
17-05-2007, 12:10
Norwich is one of the dullest places I have ever been.
And they talk funny. :hihi:

billyhill
17-05-2007, 12:11
I moved here to Uni from Liverpool and am still here thirty years later. Have travelled all over the country and yet to find anywhere as good to live in as Sheffield.
Norwich is a lovely place but very isolated and with quite a slow pace of life.

noisyandy
17-05-2007, 12:13
Aye, I think Matchstick's got it right, if she think that Naaaaaarich is a big place then God's Own City is going to be a bit much for her. Mind you, I came here from a sleepy town in Warwickshire and it didn't faze me! Mind you, the drive through to Meadowhall can be a bit gloomy: next time, take her round all the nice houses in Whirlow, Nether Green, Eccleshall, Ranmoor etc... just don't tell her the prices! ;)

serenety
17-05-2007, 12:39
My husband loves Sheffield, hes American!
Not many places have a busy city on the edge of pure green countryside.
Sheffield is unique ! and will always be home .
People are warm and funny ! the yorkshire food is to die for.
Its only when you leave Sheffield , then you sit back and appreciate the city.
We have the hoods here in Florida.... Places I wouldnt drive through.
Sheffield has character not many places have.
Try taking a drive around Abbeydale ~ out to Chatsworth ! Sheffield has modern and old mixed together.
Theres something about Yorkshire people , when I hear that yorkshire accent in Orlando I just cant wait to talk to them..... Their warmth and humour just shines.

SarahD
17-05-2007, 12:43
Well I love Sheffield and I'm from a very small village in the countryside, but it can look quite untidy sometimes. Litter on the pavements is really bad in some places, I know walking down West Street isn't a pleasant experience anymore. There are a lot of homeless people and beggars in the city centre which can be a bit intimidating but apart from that, I love the atmosphere and I love the city centre.

Oh and there are so many road works etc at the moment it can be hard to see how pretty Sheffield can actually be. Take her to Crookes Valley Park next time.

Jabberwocky
17-05-2007, 12:44
Ive introduced quite a few people to Sheffield and Im sorry to say that none of them liked it at all.
Ive always wanted one of them to compliment the city, because I AM proud of the place, no matter how rough its looking these days. Trouble is, everyone Ive taken up there thinks its an armpit.

Jonny5
17-05-2007, 12:46
Amongst other places we called into the woodseats palace wetherspoons

BIG mistake. I'm a native and I find the pubs on Woodseats intimidating!

Should have gone to the Sheaf View.

ceridwen1977
17-05-2007, 13:04
I used to live in Sheffield after being a student there and was really sad to leave... even when I was a school kid visiting the Crucible I thought it looked like an amazing place, coming from a small town in Cheshire and I think subconsciously I chose to go to Uni there as well. There are far worse cities than Sheffield. Like Leicester where I live now and which I have trouble getting on with, the streets are dirty and covered in spit and chicken bones, there are far less trees than Sheffield and there are about two hills in the whole city and they are no where near as grand as Sheffield. The people are far less friendly as well it has taken me ages to get to know anyone here whereas I had a ton of friends in Sheffield (although my new job did not help really on that front). Yet each to their own... I used to think Manchester was scary and hated going there but now I like it! Maybe people just need to get used to it but it seems a shame to dismiss sheffield after one visit.

samc
17-05-2007, 13:10
Take her to Leeds - that is so scary she'll think Sheffield is lovely.

And I am not anti-Leeds as I lived there for some time but it just is much scarier than Sheffield if you are used to rural living.

StarSparkle
17-05-2007, 13:19
Norwich is one of the dullest places I have ever been.

Maybe the thrill-a-minute hedonistic lifestyle in the city centre was too much for her to take. She might have felt far more at home in a traffic jam in Bents Green.

Sheffield's the only place I've wanted to live that wasn't 11,000 miles away from my family. I'd recommend you try and pursuade her again.

Yeah, Norwich isn't exactly Sin City, is it?

Perhaps Sheffield was just a bit too racy on first acquaintance? :hihi: Or she's been paying too much attention to Jarvis Cocker... :suspect:

Hasn't she ever been to London, for example? I wouldn't give up though - she's bound to fall for Sheffield's charms if she gets exposed to them enough. Keep trying :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

Swan_Vesta
17-05-2007, 13:26
Mixed results for me. Some mates from Lincoln loved it and keep on coming back for sessions at the Dev Cat. My parents were not amused and decided it was akin to living in a Darfur refugee camp. Mates from Bedfordshire had mixed results; one was amazed that people wore shoes. One loves it and another expected people to be flying kestrels while they kept ferrets in their trousers.

I love it though.

JIbbo
17-05-2007, 14:01
Well on a positive note i have two friends who moved up here to work from down south and really like it.

They have invited people up from london, who were most impressed as well.

They live just round the back of broomhill.

The londoners were impressed with the ten minutes on the a57 to countryside drive..........

So i suppose it depends what bits of the city you show people i suppose !

matt1889
17-05-2007, 14:02
What you are all saying makes sense as it is what i'm allready thinking!

Having lived in a small place for so long, the jump into the big city was too much for her, Walking through a busy city centre was new to her as well, and I guess the things we take for granted as everyday life for us are just way different to what she's used to!

But what i'm trying to explain to her is that next month after graduation, the bigger cities are the place to be, and I reckon Sheffield is as good as any to get a nice job, cushty apartment and a relaxed night life????

metalman
17-05-2007, 16:57
Why couldn't you move to Norwich? I actually think it's rather pleasant there. Shopping centre's better, no hills so you can cycle everywhere, closer to London if you want the bright lights, and less than an hour from the sea. Frankly I would, on the whole, tend to agree with her.

davyboy
17-05-2007, 17:07
What you are all saying makes sense as it is what i'm allready thinking!

Having lived in a small place for so long, the jump into the big city was too much for her, Walking through a busy city centre was new to her as well, and I guess the things we take for granted as everyday life for us are just way different to what she's used to!


Exactly.
The exact opposite happened to us many years ago.
We moved to a village from East London and my wife was in tears for 3 months because the place was so quiet.
We walked down the main street at 9pm and the place was DEAD.
Now she wouldn't go back.
You usually get used to changes.

Richard999
17-05-2007, 19:39
I've told this story before.. it's old but still relevant..as you will see.

I was watching The Tube (yes that was a long time ago) and Jools Holland was interviewing Bob Geldof... said Holland

" so you're going off on tour"
"yes"
"..and the first date is tomorrow?"
"yes"
"..and where is that..?"
"Sheffield"
at this point they look at each other and say in unison

"..all those flats"

the ones they were refering to were probably Parkhill/Hyde Park as they are most visible from the city centre.. they are still there and their view still dominates peoples first impressions of the city.. it's hard to get past that sometimes.

firecracker
17-05-2007, 22:06
I've told this story before.. it's old but still relevant..as you will see.

I was watching The Tube (yes that was a long time ago) and Jools Holland was interviewing Bob Geldof... said Holland

" so you're going off on tour"
"yes"
"..and the first date is tomorrow?"
"yes"
"..and where is that..?"
"Sheffield"
at this point they look at each other and say in unison

"..all those flats"


the ones they were refering to were probably Parkhill/Hyde Park as they are most visible from the city centre.. they are still there and their view still dominates peoples first impressions of the city.. it's hard to get past that sometimes.

Yep, the flats, plus the crumbling Roxy with its boarded up shops underneath, and once you get past this carbuncle, the Castle Market fleapit, the rundown Castle Square and the shambolic Moor.

rubydazzler
17-05-2007, 22:17
either get another girlfriend or move to that village you mentioned, Norwich, was it? :)

plumbum39
17-05-2007, 22:19
wots up with ferrets? they make lovely pets! Back to the case in hand ... Sheffield. Having moved from Manchetser a couple o years ago, I thought that Sheffield was a dump and parts of it still are... like most cities. However the redevelopment and resulting traffic chaos cant take forever and the amount of greenspace is astounding... not just the countryside but within the city itself.

Jabberwocky
17-05-2007, 22:26
Heres my posh southern brother in law on his first visit to Sheffield.

Impressed? (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/Doppler1/meupnorth.jpg)
Or maybe being in Parson Cross had an effect on him...

rubydazzler
17-05-2007, 22:34
Heres my posh southern brother in law on his first visit to Sheffield.

Impressed? (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i159/Doppler1/meupnorth.jpg)
Or maybe being in Parson Cross had an effect on him...

Actually being in Parson Cross would have a similar effect on me - if I'd ever been there. Most south Sheffielders have only the most hazy idea of what happens beyond Wicker Arches ... here be dragons, or something! :D

Jabberwocky
17-05-2007, 22:35
Here be Jabberwocks...?

redrobbo
17-05-2007, 22:47
My mates from london liked it when they came up here, one of them said "wow, trees, I saw one of those once in Hyde Park, I wonder if it's still there ?"

When new neighbours from Somerset moved in next door to me, they couldn't believe how green Sheffield was due to the abundance of trees. They were so wildly excited about the trees in Sheffield, I began to wonder if they grew them in their native Somerset? :rolleyes:

rubydazzler
17-05-2007, 22:52
Here be Jabberwocks...?

Don't take this the wrong way, but to be honest, he doesn't look very posh ... no offence :D

Jabberwocky
17-05-2007, 22:53
Don't take this the wrong way, but to be honest, he doesn't look very posh ... no offence :D

Put it THIS way.

Hes posher than me :D

Bago
18-05-2007, 04:38
The impression is not a good one if you showed them Castle Market. I was in the KFC yesterday for a quick lunch, and it's like a bomb site. Food everywhere on the floor. Rubbish everywhere. Kids running around asking me what I was doing? :hihi: With an agitated retort from his mom "she's eating". It's like a Catherine Tate show in there. I was just waiting for the "I'm not bothered" line.

Then again, if you showed someone round the Peace Garden and the Millenium Gallery, it does feel like a European City. The stone buildings are sanded down, and it gives it that bit of a historic feel to it.

Talking of the Wetherspoons on Woodseats. I do have my reservation as well. It's because in the summer, they have their windows wide open, and people literally spill onto the streets. Unlike The Big Tree whereby people can set further back from the road and not gather round the road literally. It's a bit of a hazard at night for drivers as well, when people cross the streets from pubs to the kebab shops. I'm sure it didn't used to be a Wetherspoons pub.

rubydazzler
18-05-2007, 06:58
I'm sure it didn't used to be a Wetherspoons pub.

No, it used to be a Kwiksave ... :)

neeeeeeeeeek
18-05-2007, 07:37
If she want's to drag you to Norwich then dump her, preferably by text! As someone else mentioned, Norwich is the dullest place on Earth, nothing but tractors, cabbages and inbreeding. The locals are too scared to leave and becasue it's so flat they alll went mad years ago. She will drag you down there and start breeding (probably with her brother or her dad)
What ever you decide think about these 2 words.....

Michael Carroll.

:hihi: :hihi:

swordfish1
18-05-2007, 09:01
Talking of the Wetherspoons on Woodseats. I do have my reservation as well. It's because in the summer, they have their windows wide open, and people literally spill onto the streets. Unlike The Big Tree whereby people can set further back from the road and not gather round the road literally.

Take her to the big tree though, and she'd never give Sheffield a second chance. Full of chavs up for a fight. I go in there occasionally and have felt like you could cut the tension with a knife. Certainly better places to go, such as the aforementioned Sheaf, or Abbey

Darbees
18-05-2007, 09:08
My first impressions of Sheffield when I first came was that it was a s***hole, as time has passed I realise that it is worse than I first thought. However, compared with Bradford, where I work, it isn't so bad. I do like the way it is possible to escape to the countryside very quickly and Bradford is the same in that respect.

chris@25
18-05-2007, 09:24
You shouldn't have shown her the city centre first, it's still one of the worst things about Sheffield. We used to have the second worst city centre in Britain, but Birmingham's much better now...

S6 D.I.Y
18-05-2007, 10:32
i came to sheffield first as a yong boy about 10 years old and dident like it i lived in a small village also and retuned to sheffield when i was 27.the return to sheffield was the best move i have ever made in my life i have children liveing here too and would not even think of leaving sheffield untill they have grown up and flew the nest.
there are lots of great reasons for this.
..i take my dog for walks into country-side takes 10 min to get to countryisde
..my ch#ildren can travel save on supertram eg camers
..the schools are well above avg
..there is plenty employment if you get off a?? and look for it

yes there is also the drugs and louts but can you tell me where you do not get them it was even worse in the small village for louts in comparison to the ratio of people sheffiled is a very save nice place

i think i should start a guied walk to sheffield maybe i could make money for 3 hour walk please p.m me.
i can take you on dog walks in and around sheffield
i can take you on a pub crawl around sheffield
i can take you to children parks in and around sheffield
lol i could go on for ever sure ill get some whitty comments ow well

whitewitch
18-05-2007, 10:52
the complaints ive had from an outsider (wiltshire) are....ignorant drivers, too many traffic lights, too many traffic jams, too much stress.....but on the complliments there has been....friendly people, meadowhall, amount of shops, loads of places to visit, great countryside alongside a bussling city, everythings cheaper ie: houses, cars (including car m.o.ts and garage costs)

Im sure ive heard somewhere that yorshire people are the most friendly people and that sheffield is the greenest city in the u.k, so its not that bad really:)

Geanie
18-05-2007, 20:55
i've just moved to sheffield from Lincoln, but come from norfolk all my life. Norwich was the closest city to me, and I loved it!

i've recently moved to sheffield and to be honest, it is a bit scary. I do not feel safe outside at night. However I like being in town during the day. I live in woodseats now which is okay, but i find Dore, parts of nether edge, totley and fullwood lovely. Sheffield is slowing growing on me.

If I had been born and lived in a city i'm sure I would think Sheffield is fantastic, but i'm from the countryside in the middle of nowhere.

neeeeeeeeeek - norwich is not the dullest place on earth, it's brilliant! and yeah it's flat, and yeah - it's full of tractors, but it's such an easier pace of life. a lot less stress.

driving in sheffield is awful! sooo much traffic, traffic lights, mad taxi drivers, it takes absolutely ages to drive to and from work, the wages are lower and my car insurance has gone up by £100 because i moved to sheffield!

Sheffield is great for an active lifestyle, but i dont think I could have and bring up kids here.

matt1889
19-05-2007, 00:36
If she want's to drag you to Norwich then dump her, preferably by text! As someone else mentioned, Norwich is the dullest place on Earth, nothing but tractors, cabbages and inbreeding. The locals are too scared to leave and becasue it's so flat they alll went mad years ago. She will drag you down there and start breeding (probably with her brother or her dad)
What ever you decide think about these 2 words.....

Michael Carroll.

:hihi: :hihi:


I can sit back and let you all slag Norwich off, Ive lived here for 6 months now and cant really grumble that much to be fair, the only problem is that I am used to Sheffield and miss it!!!!

jake
19-05-2007, 10:33
An outsider would probably notice how much sheffield folk like to moan about sheffield...