Anyone bought it yet? What dya think of it? some of them are pretty good, but a couple are a bit too 'quiet' for my liking...track 5 sucks :(

I've ordered it off CD Wow and I'm just waiting for it to arrive... I will report back when I've listened to it!

Hi, I have some of their older albums and was wondering if anyone had the new one and if its any good. Thanks

Yes, I heard it the other day. It's simply awful.

If you dont like the band and are only going to say negative things you dont need to reply

Yeah, I bought it for my girlf and had a listen to it. I'm not really a fan but theres some pretty nice tunes on there. A nice blend of melody's and some harsh nu-metal as well.

I personally prefer them as a nu-metal band, as the new songs of that style are pretty amazing, specifically No More Sorrow.

I'd give it a 6 out of 10 :)

Well worth a listen if your a fan.

If you dont like the band and are only going to say negative things you dont need to reply

I thought the first album was a solid effort, even though it's not really my thing. The second album wasn't so solid, but had a few good tunes.

This one's liquid. Honestly, there's nothing to it, considering it took them so long to make. I think the singles are weak, and I have to admit, the singles they released off the last two albums were very strong.

The rapping on it doesn't pop up very often, but when it does it's cringeworthy. The vocals don't sound nearly powerful enough and neither do the guitars.

There you go, I've been more objective. But to be honest, if I don't like a band, there's a reason for it, it's not just because 'I don't like them'.

ok well thanks for your opinions. sorry if my previous post sounded a bit harsh its just on here people always seem to want to ruin things

What kind of stuff do they do, I've heard of them I've just never listened to any of their music, have they had anything in the charts I might have heard ?

You probably dont remember them as they've been out of the scene for a while making this new album. They had some hits a few years ago. In the end, Crawling, Numb / Encore which featured Jay-Z.

There's a delay with shipping my order out. Grrrr!

You might of heard of their new single which is out at the moment - What I've done. Alot of their older stuff is alot heavier and more rock.

Threads merged.

Thanks Medusa.

Doesn't sound like I'm missing much whilst I'm waiting for it to arrive!

I thought the first album was a solid effort, even though it's not really my thing. The second album wasn't so solid, but had a few good tunes.

This one's liquid. Honestly, there's nothing to it, considering it took them so long to make. I think the singles are weak, and I have to admit, the singles they released off the last two albums were very strong.

The rapping on it doesn't pop up very often, but when it does it's cringeworthy. The vocals don't sound nearly powerful enough and neither do the guitars.

There you go, I've been more objective. But to be honest, if I don't like a band, there's a reason for it, it's not just because 'I don't like them'.



To be frank I'd have to agree with Nekro here. It just doesn't have the edge it really should, and far too political....While I do like most of it, it's not something I'm too comfortable having blasting out of my stereo in the car.

Pop/rock I'd class some of it...I do prefer the heavier stuff.

i love it given up,what ive done,bleed it out are my fav songs

heard it over the weekend not really impressed that much ,4 tracks stand out but as a few others have said its a bit on the light side but im sure it might grow on me on further plays

i love it given up,what ive done,bleed it out are my fav songs

:thumbsup:The best! But you forgot No More Sorrow:(

I love Linkin Park, but was *initially* a bit disappointed with this album, but it's grown on me loads and now I love it, but not quite as much as Hybrid Theory or Meteora. The thing is, with the other albums, EVERY song is amazing, but with Minutes, the good songs are amazing, it's just that not every song is my favourite, like with the other albums

Still a great album though:love:

And don't even get me started on Chester.....:love: :love: :love:

oooh yes, yummy :hihi:

I think it's growing on me too, I like Bleed it Out, my three yr old son sings the chorus beautifully

Anyone bought it yet? What dya think of it? some of them are pretty good, but a couple are a bit too 'quiet' for my liking...track 5 sucks :(

I really like track 5! :)

Do you think it sounds like U2?

No, they arent like U2, nothing like them. The only thing equal to U2 is Chester Benningtons appearance and the video 'What Ive Done'.

Also, my opinions of linkin park. With them being my favourite band since hybrid theory was released, ill try being unbiased. :rolleyes:

Hybrid theory (10/10) - Not one bad song, everysongs a favourite, even 'Cure for the Itch'! Cant beat this album!

Meteora (9/10) - Well worth the couple of years wait. They were worried they would flop, obviously didnt. Everysong here, also a favourite.

Minutes to Midnight (7/10) - Again a long wait, but not as a massive hit as Meteora. First, I thought it was alrite, but as Litlemermaid mentioned, It gradually grows on you. I now love a few songs (alike in previous albums) and the rest are good.

Im a little disapointed in the new album, but its because theyre now more punk style rather than nu-metal. Maybe after all the previous massive hits its gave them a little bit too much confidence.

Worth buying still. Must have played it atleast 50 times all way though now. Whens the next album? :hihi:

Do you think it sounds like U2?

Ummmm no, not even slightly.

I had meant only track 5, but never mind eh. lol

:thumbsup:The best! But you forgot No More Sorrow:(

I love Linkin Park, but was *initially* a bit disappointed with this album, but it's grown on me loads and now I love it, but not quite as much as Hybrid Theory or Meteora. The thing is, with the other albums, EVERY song is amazing, but with Minutes, the good songs are amazing, it's just that not every song is my favourite, like with the other albums

Still a great album though:love:

And don't even get me started on Chester.....:love: :love: :love:

i love chester too:love: :hihi:

i love chester too:love: :hihi:

He is really cute, and rather sexy :love:

Used to love 'em, so have been waiting around eagerly for this album.
Slightly disappointed. Acouple of GREAT tracks, but I think it's half a good album.
Just hope i'm not so disappointed with the new UNKLE album. Back to my QOTSA now,which IS good.

He is really cute, and rather sexy :love:

Back when I wasn't keen on this type of music but my OH loved it I used to say, "It's ok if you wanna put your Live in Texas DVD on you know", I must've seemed like a right good, selfless girlfriend, I just wanted to watch Chester:hihi:

How sneaky am I? He saw straight through me though, he admits if he was a girl (or that way inclined) he'd fancy his pants off too:love: :love: :love:

Used to love 'em, so have been waiting around eagerly for this album.
Slightly disappointed. Acouple of GREAT tracks, but I think it's half a good album.
Just hope i'm not so disappointed with the new UNKLE album. Back to my QOTSA now,which IS good.

New Queens album's out soon isn't it? That will be a cracking album. One of the best bands around.

They **** on Linkin Park from the highest height imaginable. You should all buy Songs for the Deaf.

New Queens album's out soon isn't it? That will be a cracking album. One of the best bands around.

They **** on Linkin Park from the highest height imaginable. You should all buy Songs for the Deaf.

If laughter could kill, id be dead right now ;)

QOTSA can '****' on linkin park only if they are able to climb up to Linkin Park in the first place. Find as many QOTSA fans as there are Linkin park fans. :rolleyes:

Find as many QOTSA fans as there are Linkin park fans. :rolleyes:

If popularity is an indicator of quality then Girls Aloud/Westlife/etc. etc. must be better than both.

Not massively into Linkin Park but seeing them at Download on Saturday so I'll be interested to see how they grab me.

I love it! Im a fan of theirs and have the older albums and yes this one is different, much more mellow but Chester does amazing vocals on most tracks and there are a couple that sound more old stlye linkin park

If popularity is an indicator of quality then Girls Aloud/Westlife/etc. etc. must be better than both.

Westlife are more successful than Linkin Park, obviously. But I was talking about metal/rock, not pop.

Plus what other indication of quality is there? Album sales? Im sure Linkin Park have more too :confused:

If laughter could kill, id be dead right now ;)

QOTSA can '****' on linkin park only if they are able to climb up to Linkin Park in the first place. Find as many QOTSA fans as there are Linkin park fans. :rolleyes:

I went to see a band called Turbonegro in London last night. They are playing Download today.

There were maybe 1,000 people at the gig last night, and they will be largely ignored at Download, having been put low down on the bill due to them being Norweigian and therefore ignored. And also because of their name.

They formed in 1989 and have generated THE most deidicated fanbase of any band on the planet.

They are in my opinion, one of the greatest rock bands in the world, maybe of all time. And trust me, I've seen pretty much any rock band you care to mention.

Constant marketing and pop songs with guitars in and cheesy rapping that I am embarrassed to even listen to are no match for real talent, no matter what the sales figures.

As for QOTSA fans compared to Linkin Park fans, take away the brain washed Kerrap! readers under the age of 18 and I think we'd have a fair fight.


If laughter could kill, I'd be laughing very hard in the direction of Linkin Park.

Constant marketing and pop songs with guitars in and cheesy rapping that I am embarrassed to even listen to are no match for real talent, no matter what the sales figures.

As for QOTSA fans compared to Linkin Park fans, take away the brain washed Kerrap! readers under the age of 18 and I think we'd have a fair fight.


If laughter could kill, I'd be laughing very hard in the direction of Linkin Park.

There is no way in this world anyone can deny Chester is talented. In some people's opinion, QOTSA are a better band, I don't think so, but then, I haven't really heard much of their stuff. From what I have heard, though, I can safely say I still find LP easier on my ears:)

Linkin Park are successful because they are good at what they do.
Westlife are successful for exactly the same resaon.
The joke is, the fanbase behind these two types of music is not as divided as some like to think, I believe there is such an obvious divide because people are embarassed to admit to liking other types of music.

There is absolutley nothing to be ashamed of if you prefer "cheesy" pop. I used to, but now I'm parital to a bit of both. You'd be embarassed to frequent the same forum as me if you knew how many times I've seen Westlife in concert:D, However, I can also mosh along (in my head lol) to Avenged with the best of them:cool: Or swing to a bit of Sinatra:love:

I like almost anything, and I'm quite proud of the diversity of my musical taste, surely such an open minded attitude can only be a good thing?

IAs for QOTSA fans compared to Linkin Park fans, take away the brain washed Kerrap! readers under the age of 18 and I think we'd have a fair fight.

If laughter could kill, I'd be laughing very hard in the direction of Linkin Park.

Take away the readers under the age of 18? How long have linkin park been formed? Not as long as the oldie band you mentioned. You expect older people to like a new band?

Take away the readers over the age of 18 and I think wed have a fair fight, also who said Linkin park dont have talent? Just because theyre famous, doesnt mean theyve lost the skills :)

wikipedia.org states this about the lead singer of linkin park, Chester Bennington - "He was included on Hit Parader's Heavy Metal's All-Time Top 100 Vocalists, placing at #46."

Doesnt that show he has talent? :confused:

Oh and if laughter could kill, maybe u shouldnt laugh, not a good idea :rolleyes:

Take away the readers under the age of 18? How long have linkin park been formed? Not as long as the oldie band you mentioned. You expect older people to like a new band?

Take away the readers over the age of 18 and I think wed have a fair fight, also who said Linkin park dont have talent? Just because theyre famous, doesnt mean theyve lost the skills :)

wikipedia.org states this about the lead singer of linkin park, Chester Bennington - "He was included on Hit Parader's Heavy Metal's All-Time Top 100 Vocalists, placing at #46."

Doesnt that show he has talent? :confused:

Oh and if laughter could kill, maybe u shouldnt laugh, not a good idea :rolleyes:


No, they haven't been around for long. And Queens will outlast them still.

No, that doesn't show he's got talent, not that I recall saying that he wasn't a good singer. I will, for the record, say that his lyrics are cheesy as hell though.

I though it was Mike Shinoda who did the rapping? You tell me, you're the fan.

I expect older people to have a more rounded view of things. Which is why McFlay appeal to children more.

In reply to another post on here, I can see plenty of shame in listening to Westlife, but I suppose some people are just shameless aren't they?!??

I will, for the record, say that his lyrics are cheesy as hell though.

I though it was Mike Shinoda who did the rapping? You tell me, you're the fan.

I expect older people to have a more rounded view of things. Which is why McFlay appeal to children more.

What songs have cheesy lyrics? Just post a few examples please because Ive never noticed it.

Mike Shinoda does do the rapping, but also does background singing, guitars and keyboard. I wasnt on bout the rapping, I was talking about the singing and shouting though...

Oh and just because someone is older, doesnt mean they know more bout music than younger ones.

Are you one of those guys that when someone gets famous they dislike em? Like, if QOTSA released a song on mtv and it got famous would you suddenly think theyre not talented??

What songs have cheesy lyrics? Just post a few examples please because Ive never noticed it.

Mike Shinoda does do the rapping, but also does background singing, guitars and keyboard. I wasnt on bout the rapping, I was talking about the singing and shouting though...

Oh and just because someone is older, doesnt mean they know more bout music than younger ones.

Are you one of those guys that when someone gets famous they dislike em? Like, if QOTSA released a song on mtv and it got famous would you suddenly think theyre not talented??

No I'm not. Are Queens not a famous band then? Queens have had all of their videos on MTV as far as I know. Dave Grohl drummed for them, tickets for their shows are like gold dust. I'd say they're famous.

Here's a vintage cheese from the end of the last century. Especially the 'shut up when I'm talking to you' bit.

"One Step Closer"

I cannot take this anymore
Saying everything I've said before
All these words they make no sense
I find bliss in ignorance
Less I hear the less you'll say
You'll find that out anyway

Just like before...

[Chorus:]
Everything you say to me
Takes me one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break
I need a little room to breathe
Cause I'm one step closer to the edge
I'm about to break

I find the answers aren't so clear
Wish I could find a way to disappear
All these thoughts they make no sense
I find bliss in ignorance
Nothing seems to go away
Over and over again

Just like before...

[Chorus]

Everything you say to me
Takes me one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break
I need a little room to breathe
Cause I'm one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break

Shut up when I'm talking to you
Shut up, shut up, shut up
Shut up when I'm talking to you
Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up

I'm about to BREAK

[Chorus]

Everything you say to me
Takes me one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break
I need a little room to breathe
Cause I'm one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break

And:

Forfeit the game
Before somebody else
Takes you out of the frame
Puts your name to shame
Cover up your face
You can't run the race
The pace is too fast
You just won't last





Oh dear.

In reply to another post on here, I can see plenty of shame in listening to Westlife, but I suppose some people are just shameless aren't they?!??

Yeah I guess I am pretty much shameless, if shameless is listening to whatever music I like the sound of and not only choosing music that will make me look "cool":rolleyes:

Yes I am shamless if shameless is not really caring what others think of my music choice

Yes I am shameless if shameless is being myself:loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

I've got nothing to be ashamed of, but I'd hazard a guess that most people will think being so shallow as to judge people on their musical tastes is something to be ashamed of:)

Oh, Had to get in on this one, should strive for some kind of...will power....but....can't....

I'm a massive QOTSA fan but also have the first couple of Linkin Park albums.
Now I have to say that your general everyday music fan would probably say that Linkin Park are by far the more successful and popular band of the two - but that would only be down to the amount of album sales, media coverage and marketing for Linkin park, and that Linkin Park can be heard more often than not on any commercial radio station (hence the appeal to a more mainsteam younger following needing something a little more accesible whilst allowing them to feel some of that teenage agnst ;) ) - and if I put my hand on my heart I think Chester whateverhisname is is probably a better lead vocalist than any current or former member of QOTSA, in terms of vocal range at least.
However, that said I think the musical credentials of most of the members (past and present) of QOTSA and also their individual heritage also completely blows Linkin Park out of the water (Foo Fighters, Mondo Generator, Kyuss, The Dwarves, The Screaming Trees, A Perfect Circle, Desert Sessions etc), pick any QOTSA album and put it against any Linkin Park album and rate them for creativeness, quality of song writing, lyrics, skill of the musicians and I woudl be willing bet my own socks that QOTSA would come up trumps every time.

Yeah I guess I am pretty much shameless, if shameless is listening to whatever music I like the sound of and not only choosing music that will make me look "cool":rolleyes:

Yes I am shamless if shameless is not really caring what others think of my music choice

Yes I am shameless if shameless is being myself:loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

I've got nothing to be ashamed of, but I'd hazard a guess that most people will think being so shallow as to judge people on their musical tastes is something to be ashamed of:)


Wicked. The first step is admitting you have a problem. You're practically halfway healed.

pick any QOTSA album and put it against any Linkin Park album and rate them for creativeness, quality of song writing, lyrics, skill of the musicians and I woudl be willing bet my own socks that QOTSA would come up trumps every time.

Yeah. Throw in my socks too. And my shoes.

Your saying those lyrics are cheesy, what about 'No One Knows' by QOTSA?

And I realize you’re mine
Indeed a fool of mine
And I realize you’re mine
Indeed a fool of mine
Ahh

Theyre the lyrics of a chorus, you call that quality? Bless :roll:

Also, ive not heard one person mention QOTSA in the same sentence as the word good. Must have mates with good taste then :hihi:

I ike it very much. Its a good progression for them.

Your saying those lyrics are cheesy, what about 'No One Knows' by QOTSA?

And I realize you’re mine
Indeed a fool of mine
And I realize you’re mine
Indeed a fool of mine
Ahh

Theyre the lyrics of a chorus, you call that quality? Bless :roll:

Also, ive not heard one person mention QOTSA in the same sentence as the word good. Must have mates with good taste then :hihi:

QOTSA are 'good'. They aren't my favourite band by a long shot, but they were the band thrown into the argument and I'm more than happy to use them as an example of a good band.

QOTSA's song writing process consists of going into the desert and taking a lot of drugs, which may explain some of their lyrics.

What's Linkin Park's excuse?

Yeah. Throw in my socks too. And my shoes.

Can I also just say that I REALLY like my shoes too, but I'm pretty confident on this bet.

An example of the how vacuous I have found Linkin Park fans to be -

The singer Chester openly admits that he was sexually abused as a child, by a close family friend - a terrible thing.

Linkin Park fans form a fan club and call it "The Chester Molester Brigade"

An example of the how vacuous I have found Linkin Park fans to be -

The singer Chester openly admits that he was sexually abused as a child, by a close family friend - a terrible thing.

Linkin Park fans form a fan club and call it "The Chester Molester Brigade"

Haha! I bet he's already got a fan club.

OMG! OMG! He's SOOOO fit! OMG! OMG!

Any bands lyrics can be questioned as being slightly dodgy, especially if taken as a small snippet out of the rest fo the song the relate to, and yeah they do repeat but then again a hell of a lot of lyrics do that (flicking through my MP3 player I notice a lot of LP tracks do it too - One Step Closer, By Myself, Lying from You), all part fo the song writing process I would think.

"He was included on Hit Parader's Heavy Metal's All-Time Top 100 Vocalists, placing at #46." - not quite sure I'm aware of what Hit parader is but a quick google throws up a list that has Mike Shinoda and Justin Hawkins as being one of the top 100 heavy metal vocalists so isn't really worth a sheeet in my eyes.

I'm usually not one for buying albums on the reviews of music critics or how much marketing a certain band gets and rarely purchase music magazines, however I do seem to recall Kerrang (is this a reputable magazine for all things rock/metal???) having Oueens of the Stone Age as the top 5th rated album in 1998, Rated R as THE top album of 2000, Songs for the Deaf as THE top album in 2002 and Lullabies to Paralyse as the top 13th album in 2005.
Couldn't recall seeing Linkin Park in there although I might be wrong.
I'm not saying that Linkin Park are pap - I've got 4 of their albums and really enjoy a lot of their stuff, I'm just saying what theirs and QOTSA's sound are very different and when it comes to musicianship, QOTSA are in a totally different league.

Yeh, thats a good acheivement from QOTSA as youve mentioned stussonicos, I shall also stick up for QOTSA, but I dislike them. QOTSA was mentioned in this discussion, I didnt introduce them in. Nekro138 started slating Linkin Park and Im just defending them..

Ive found this on wikipedia..
"Hybrid Theory is certified Diamond (10 times Platinum) in the U.S. by the RIAA. It is also the twenty-first century's highest selling debut album, selling 24 million copies worldwide as of October 2006. Moreover, it is sometimes considered the most commercially successful album of the nu metal genre. MTV2 ranked it #10 on its list "22 Greatest CDs" of the past 20 years"

Compared to..
"Songs for the Deaf received very positive reviews, including a total score of 89 out of 100 on Metacritic as of June 6, 2007, making the album the 31st highest rated album on the site, and third highest rated from 2002. Entertainment Weekly called it "The year's best hard-rock album"

QOTSA got the best album for a year, and linkin park got it one of best of the past 20 years.. Id much rather get the acheivements of LP than QOTSA :)

Oh, and Nekro138, Chester is good looking, dont get jelous because Joshua Homme isnt exactly nice :roll:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my dear, although I don't think i would ;)

Oh, and Nekro138, Chester is good looking, dont get jelous because Joshua Homme isnt exactly nice :roll:

What? Are you suggesting that I'm jealous on Josh Homme's behalf? Bizarre.

Just got the new Queens album. Absolutely top rate. Also, I didn't bring QOTSA into the conversation. I was just defending them.

Oh yeah, you can keep bringing these incredible facts out like, Chester Bennington was voted 46th best singer in a survey by McDonalds or whatever it was, but that doesn't mean anything to me.

If that's what you base your opinions on, then why don't you like the band at number one best? Obviously they must be the best band in the world.

Just as an after thought (dropping myself down to a totally superficial level here), if not being quite as 'good looking' as Chester wahtshisface means you get to have a girl like Brody Dalle an your arm then beat me with the ugly stick.

I had meant only track 5, but never mind eh. lol

Actually I'm with you on that one! I was going to say exactly the same thing. The chorus sounds like it might slip into U2's "With or Without You" at any moment!

Cheers Lou I thought I might be going mad to be honest lol



I'll just sit back and let t'others carry on arguing the toss over who's lyrics are better etc..lol

call me shallow, but I prefer the music...the lyrics are just there.... *shrugs* but do carry on, it's interesting to hear views of others....
How were LP at Download by the way peeps?