has anyone else seen the students that live in the Hallam uni halls of residence who have been launching water balloons at passers by?

it's the ones at the back of the KFC on Queens Road.

they have a top floor window where they were throwing them out of.

Now they have built a catapult device to launch them to the other side of the road to hit members of the public.

I'm always up for a laugh but when they are aiming at people going to and from work or on their way into town for the night or to bramall lane matches it's a different matter.

the other day i saw an elderly lady that they had hit.

they are firing them so hard that it's only a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

Smashing- another student prank that will just go too far and alienate people.

I'd write a letter addressed to the dean of the university and give all the details you know, so that someone can check it out for the safety of everyone who walks down that stretch of street.

thing is it's getting to the end of term so it will probably just be dismissed as end of term high jinx.

I will write in though

My main concern whould be is it water?

I hope so!!!!!


This is on Charlotte Road by the way, top floor third window along.

Bloody students, if they had more lectures and actually got a bit of graft done they wouldn;t have time for these crazy pranks.

No wonder everyone hates students.

My missus got hit by an egg once on Division St, no doubt thrown by some crazy students.

It makes me angry that while *chavs* get completely demonised for being anti-social scum, it tends to be assumed that stupid and malicious behaviour is the realm of low class/unemployed/uneducated people. In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously.

I urge you to make an official complain to the uni! I am a student at Hallam and I hate the minority of self confessed "zany" students who thinks its hilarious take part in such immature and cockish pranks. It will be taken very seriously if you kick up a fuss, I assure you. There is a 50/50 mix of students at Hallam, the hard working ones, who attend lectures,work part-time, and want to do well. The other 50% are there wasting public money, tossing it off for three years, and will some how end up being your boss. I agree with purdyamos on most points, but not all students at Hallam are middle-class, lots of (student) friends are from sheffield with working class backgrounds who work really hard. Rant over!

I agree with purdyamos on most points, but not all students at Hallam are middle-class, lots of (student) friends are from sheffield with working class backgrounds who work really hard. Rant over!


I apologise if I appeared to be saying student = middle class. I myself was one of those "with working class backgrounds who work really hard." But in general that is the division that tends to be made in people's minds. The stereotype of the rich-kid student who just dosses and mucks about and gets pished all the time is infuriating, but even more infuriating is when you encounter specimens that fit this exact description!

Yeah i totally agree purdyamos, I think I am just a little over sensative.

It makes me angry that while *chavs* get completely demonised for being anti-social scum, it tends to be assumed that stupid and malicious behaviour is the realm of low class/unemployed/uneducated people. In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously.

There are a lot of middle clas chavs (i.e. the ones who can afford the penis extensions with the big exhausts) and there's plenty of them at university - you just need to check out Worst Street at night.

I agree with Mill's though, the louts are the noticable minority - most of us (even when I was postgrad) are hard working. That said, its not really suprising that an 18 year old who's away from home for the first time with their own money might go a little bit mad is it?

Those particular Halls have always been trouble. I used to walk past everyday and there was usually food smeared all over windscreens.

Really weird, i was hit by a water bomb in this location (walking back from the bus station) but that was two years ago! Something about that building...

This happened to my friend coming back from lunch just of Eccy road. She wasn't best pleased.

I actually had a full bottle of stella dropped at me from a 2nd floor window in a block of student flats, missed my head by inches. It landed just infront of me and soaked my jeans. I stood shouting at the students to come down and have it out with me but they just drew their curtains and hid. I was so angry as that was stupidly dangerous. And they didn't have the guts to come and comfront me abuot it. :rant:

Maybe you should get a mob together and start a riot in the building.Trust me they will be a little more thoughtful then.

id say run up the stairs catch the little ba??????? and chuck them throu the window

id say run up the stairs catch the little ba??????? and chuck them throu the window

i totaly agree. a few years ago mi dad was driving through the city center picking me up from a nigth out and some kn*bhead student threw a can of pop at his new car so mi dad pulled up around the corner and kicked the shi* out of him and took some money of him to go towards the repair of the car, i know some people will say he shouldent have done that but why should he have to pay for the damage and that drunken fool get away with it

Bloody students. They do themselves no favours.

It's assault.

Just contact the university authorities, state what's happening, and suggest that you'd prefer to get it sorted out without involving the Police.

I know that there are a few Police officers who use the Forum, so perhaps they can advise?

When the bottle of stella was thrown at me there was police just around the corner, I went and told them and showed them which window it was thrown from then was told they couldn't do anything?? I thought they maight have gone up and had a word with the guys who did it to try and prevent anyone getting seriously injured. Obviously not bothered :mad:

:| It's like the Paul calf fan club round ere!! Students, bag'o'****e!

There was nothing more hilarious when loaded as a student than to put someones wheelie bin on top of their car. You had to have been there:|

It makes me angry that while *chavs* get completely demonised for being anti-social scum, it tends to be assumed that stupid and malicious behaviour is the realm of low class/unemployed/uneducated people. In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously.
Absolutely true. And students and rich kids get a pass which kids from council estates don't get. If it is the former who does it, it is high jinks, with the latter it is hooliganism. And hooliganism shouldn't be dismissed as 'high jinks' if the offenders are students or hooray henry types. And to think, somebody on their way to a job interview could be hit by one of these water bombs, and thanks to the actions of plank-brained students, could be denied a well-paid job. And it is only a matter of time before a student pulls off such a prank and gets the battering of his life.

has anyone else seen the students that live in the Hallam uni halls of residence who have been launching water balloons at passers by?

it's the ones at the back of the KFC on Queens Road.

they have a top floor window where they were throwing them out of.

Now they have built a catapult device to launch them to the other side of the road to hit members of the public.

I'm always up for a laugh but when they are aiming at people going to and from work or on their way into town for the night or to bramall lane matches it's a different matter.

the other day i saw an elderly lady that they had hit.

they are firing them so hard that it's only a matter of time before someone gets hurt.


Really that's assault so you should report it to the police. Except they won't turn up. Get a catapult and fire something which breaks their window, they'll turn up then and nick you sunshine.................

High and mighty students yet again causing grief :roll:

It must really be good to laze about all day, do the bare minimum of work to pass and slouch into pubs and clubs every night...

AND.. these people - are supposed to be the future of our country.
God help us!

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It must really be good to laze about all day, do the bare minimum of work to pass and slouch into pubs and clubs every night...

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I highly recomend it - it's a good life

High and mighty students yet again causing grief :roll:

It must really be good to laze about all day, do the bare minimum of work to pass and slouch into pubs and clubs every night...

AND.. these people - are supposed to be the future of our country.
God help us!

And i guess it must be really good to have no qualms whatsoever about lumping everyone together and tarring us all with the same brush. just as with any sort of group of society there are those who are complete idiots who are exactly as you describe and then there are those who came to university having worked really hard to get here and who continue to work hard to get a step up in life and who haven't had everything handed to them on a plate.

On a slightly less ranty note i agree that whoever is chucking stuff at people should be reported and they deserve whatever they get - its people like them that lead other people to think exactly like Angelus does about the rest of us.

And i guess it must be really good to have no qualms whatsoever about lumping everyone together and tarring us all with the same brush. just as with any sort of group of society there are those who are complete idiots who are exactly as you describe and then there are those who came to university having worked really hard to get here and who continue to work hard to get a step up in life and who haven't had everything handed to them on a plate.

On a slightly less ranty note i agree that whoever is chucking stuff at people should be reported and they deserve whatever they get - its people like them that lead other people to think exactly like Angelus does about the rest of us.

If you are in the minority and you do everything you have just said - fair play to you and good luck in the future.

But I'm sorry - and I think you will agree - students dont exactly fill us all with great joy really do they :D

High and mighty students yet again causing grief :roll:

It must really be good to laze about all day, do the bare minimum of work to pass and slouch into pubs and clubs every night...

AND.. these people - are supposed to be the future of our country.
God help us!

Its fantastic. You forgot student discounts though, they tend to be quite a nice perk.

i totaly agree. a few years ago mi dad was driving through the city center picking me up from a nigth out and some kn*bhead student threw a can of pop at his new car so mi dad pulled up around the corner and kicked the shi* out of him and took some money of him to go towards the repair of the car, i know some people will say he shouldent have done that but why should he have to pay for the damage and that drunken fool get away with it

Well that was a constructive way to deal with the situation! Your father is just as bad.

And Angelus, I don't mind it when people are clearly just trolling about students but you really are just ignorant!

I have nothing against students (I came to sheffield as one).

It's just a sad fact of society that some people are idiots.

I have nothing against students (I came to sheffield as one).

It's just a sad fact of society that some people are idiots.

Can I just ask though please - what percentage of the society you were talking about when you came to sheffield who are idiots would you class students as though?

90% possibly?

I'm probably going to get stick for writing this but I am a Hallam student that live in the halls, Charlotte Court, that you are talking about, however I do not live in the flats you are talking about. Not all of us students are that bad and not all of us that live there are that bad. However, I do think that you should report the people that are throwing water bombs at the people because they hurt and it is awful that the threw one at the old lady.

High and mighty students yet again causing grief :roll:
It must really be good to laze about all day, do the bare minimum of work to pass and slouch into pubs and clubs every night...
AND.. these people - are supposed to be the future of our country.
God help us!

Yep. They're our doctors, solicitors, engineers, chemists, scientists researching into cures for diseases etc etc without which *your* life would be much poorer. For every twit doing stuff like this (and I would without doubt report them to the university authorities and the police - it's not a prank, it's assault, as someone has already said and they deserve to be punished) there are many others working damn hard to get a degree/qualify in their chosen field. What you have said is utter nonsense.

As for purdyamos who says "In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously" - students might come up with stupid and dangerous pranks but you don't often hear of them stealing cars and robbing people do you?

Well that was a constructive way to deal with the situation! Your father is just as bad.

And Angelus, I don't mind it when people are clearly just trolling about students but you really are just ignorant!

what do you sugest he does then, let some drunken fool getaway and wake up next day and think that its ok to throw a can of pop at a car. why should mi dad have to work 6 days a week to have some lazzy tosser who just sponges of rich mummy and daddy throw a can of pop at his car. if it had gone through the window and hurt mi little sister then would you be singing a differnt tune.
and befor you say ring the police look at the post that says the police was round the corner and did nowt when told.

Yep. They're our doctors, solicitors, engineers, chemists, scientists researching into cures for diseases etc etc without which *your* life would be much poorer. For every twit doing stuff like this (and I would without doubt report them to the university authorities and the police - it's not a prank, it's assault, as someone has already said and they deserve to be punished) there are many others working damn hard to get a degree/qualify in their chosen field. What you have said is utter nonsense.

As for purdyamos who says "In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously" - students might come up with stupid and dangerous pranks but you don't often hear of them stealing cars and robbing people do you?
agreed Irene - there are people being blown up by real bombs everyday in the middle east (but that OK) the real issue is a couple of water bombs from some kids in a flat. If it bothers you that much report it!

Don't moan about students, moan about these individuals. But, most of all, stop going on as it is us students and ex students that have the unenviable task of ordering your pointless little lives!:D Hey and I'm not middle class - I'm classless

so this is what the spongers spend our money on!!!

what do you sugest he does then, let some drunken fool getaway and wake up next day and think that its ok to throw a can of pop at a car. why should mi dad have to work 6 days a week to have some lazzy tosser who just sponges of rich mummy and daddy throw a can of pop at his car. if it had gone through the window and hurt mi little sister then would you be singing a differnt tune.
and befor you say ring the police look at the post that says the police was round the corner and did nowt when told.

No I wouldn't be singing a different tune, what he did was wrong- end of. But resorting to kicking someone's head in won't make them see that they're an idiot. I've had stuff stolen, damaged etc but people won't suddenly see the error of their ways just cos you attack them.

How do you know he was a student anyway?
Making generalisations about people is pathetic and lazy, not all students' parents are rich you know! :loopy: Education costs the same for all in this country! And we're not all lazy.

As for purdyamos who says "In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously" - students might come up with stupid and dangerous pranks but you don't often hear of them stealing cars and robbing people do you?


I was specifically referring to the sort of regukar anti-social crap that ruins the quality of life in a neighbourhood. I have known tosser students to travel the whole length of a street by jumping from one car roof/bonnet to the next, damaging every single one. Throwing missiles at passers by is an assault just as a mugging is, whether or not something's being stolen.

Can I just ask though please - what percentage of the society you were talking about when you came to sheffield who are idiots would you class students as though?

90% possibly?
Lot of lazy generalising here on a par with mindless racism.
Most students are harmless, they just get on with life, not bothering anybody, so you never even register them. The very small percentage who do stupid things are the ones you notice and assume all the rest are just as bad.

In the flats in question, there are probably an awful lot of students, yet a few in one flat do something stupid and then suddenly, 'all students are idiots' comments come out.

Students tend to be young, the young are more likely to do daft things as they are less grown up, so why not just blame the entire youth population for all student pranks? Have any of us here never ever done something, that someone else may object to when young and foolish. Though I admit Students nicking things for a prank annoyed me, even when I was a student.

They are idiots in all populations, grouping everyone on a level with the bad examples is foolish and divisive.

You do all know that I am joking dont you :D

You do all know that I am joking dont you :D

Actually, you're right. Your ignorance is kind of funny!

Actually, you're right. Your ignorance is kind of funny!

Good old student, know it all attitude :D

Maybe - when you are serving me drinks in McDonalds in a few years, I'll laugh with you - how would that sound...

Ignorance is bliss :)

Ignorance is bliss :)

I'll leave you to it then Ang!

I'll leave you to it then Ang!

Many thanks :D

Maybe I should start a petition round sheffield, or I suppose I could go one further - lets have a 'demonstration' .. that attracts about 5 people to it.

All my friends are students, if any of them did anything like this I swear I would never talk to them again! The lack of respect these guys apparently show is bloody annoying!

Every day I thank my lucky stars that the most we have to worry about in this fair city is a rogue waterbomb that may or may not have someone's eye out/ruin a perfectly good Primark top, while in cities like Gaza or Baghdad it's the other type of bomb they worry about; the type that destroys bodies, lives and families. Rather them than us, eh?

Brass Eye should have run an investigation into this kind of thing under the headline "Students are bad".

Phrases like "they're all bloody scroungers" seem to come from those who are bitter at the hand they've been dealt in life, which more often than not boils down to their lack of ambition and small minded outlook.

Every day I thank my lucky stars that the most we have to worry about in this fair city is a rogue waterbomb that may or may not have someone's eye out/ruin a perfectly good Primark top, while in cities like Gaza or Baghdad it's the other type of bomb they worry about; the type that destroys bodies, lives and families. Rather them than us, eh?

Good point well made voodoodanny.

has anyone else seen the students that live in the Hallam uni halls of residence who have been launching water balloons at passers by?

it's the ones at the back of the KFC on Queens Road.

they have a top floor window where they were throwing them out of.

Now they have built a catapult device to launch them to the other side of the road to hit members of the public.

I'm always up for a laugh but when they are aiming at people going to and from work or on their way into town for the night or to bramall lane matches it's a different matter.

the other day i saw an elderly lady that they had hit.

they are firing them so hard that it's only a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

You should have rang up and complained straight away. I'd have stopped at the spot where the water balloon landed, looked up, counted along to the window where it came from, rang up directory enquiries, asked for Sheffield Hallam main switchboard, asked them for university security, then told them and asked them to come out immediately. There'd be a much better chance of them getting punished if it was reported immediately.

Although this wasn't student related, I was on my way to work one morning and had stopped at a pedestrian crossing. Workmen on the top floor of a building under construction sprayed water all over me, and I saw which window it had came from. I rang up the construction firm later on that day and reported it and the manager agreed that it was very immature. He said that I should have immediately reported it to the foreman's office though, as it would have been more difficult to trace who did it after the event. If I'd have reported it immediately, the fool would have hopefully been fired. It's always better to report things right away.

When the bottle of stella was thrown at me there was police just around the corner, I went and told them and showed them which window it was thrown from then was told they couldn't do anything?? I thought they maight have gone up and had a word with the guys who did it to try and prevent anyone getting seriously injured. Obviously not bothered :mad:

That could easily have killed someone, so I'd have thought that the police should have been able to do something and that they would actually be obligated to do something.

If I'd been fobbed off in that situation I think I'd have insisted they do something and, if they were still reluctant, started looking at their ID/names/numbers with an eye to making an official complaint.

Often, when it's apparent that you're likely to follow up, officials tend to take things more seriously.

No I wouldn't be singing a different tune, what he did was wrong- end of. But resorting to kicking someone's head in won't make them see that they're an idiot. I've had stuff stolen, damaged etc but people won't suddenly see the error of their ways just cos you attack them.

How do you know he was a student anyway?
Making generalisations about people is pathetic and lazy, not all students' parents are rich you know! :loopy: Education costs the same for all in this country! And we're not all lazy.

I think it's a bit of a generalisation to say that giving someone a kicking never works :)

If someone throws a can at a car and the only consequence is they find it funny, have a laugh and the car driver, like most would, just drives off seething- then that person has simply got some positive re-inforcement for their behaviour.

they're then quite likely to continue doing it in the future when they're a bit drunk/fancy a laugh.

The day a driver stops, pulls back, gets out and 'gives them a good kicking' could well be the day they realise that

1. it's not just a harmless prank- that the victims find it highly upsetting
2. that sometimes there are (painful) consequences to stupid pranks

Given that they're throwing cans at moving cars (not only upsetting, but illegal and quite likely to cause a serious accident if the can hits the windscreen and the driver loses control) then it's probably fair to say that they're not open to reason.

I didn't say it was a harmless prank, these are all stupid things that have caused people harm! Was just saying that it could be even more dangerous to get out of a car and attack someone for whatever reason. If you want to give someone a good kicking to teach them a lesson just hope it is the day they have a moral awakening and not the day that person uses a knife on you.

They must leave some kind of 'Litter or defacement ' behind therefore a littering fine should be issued for £75.00, then if they dont pay they will get a criminal record and that will ruin thier chances of a decent job.:hihi: ..
.the whole ponit of being a student..?

All my friends are students, if any of them did anything like this I swear I would never talk to them again! The lack of respect these guys apparently show is bloody annoying!

ALL your friends are students. Does that mean you are really picky about your friends??:hihi: :hihi:

ALL your friends are students. Does that mean you are really picky about your friends??:hihi: :hihi:

No it means that iv only just finished college and everyone in my year went to university :P Even my friends at work are students too! :P

I think it's a bit of a generalisation to say that giving someone a kicking never works :)

If someone throws a can at a car and the only consequence is they find it funny, have a laugh and the car driver, like most would, just drives off seething- then that person has simply got some positive re-inforcement for their behaviour.

they're then quite likely to continue doing it in the future when they're a bit drunk/fancy a laugh.

The day a driver stops, pulls back, gets out and 'gives them a good kicking' could well be the day they realise that

1. it's not just a harmless prank- that the victims find it highly upsetting
2. that sometimes there are (painful) consequences to stupid pranks

Given that they're throwing cans at moving cars (not only upsetting, but illegal and quite likely to cause a serious accident if the can hits the windscreen and the driver loses control) then it's probably fair to say that they're not open to reason.

finally someone who sees it from the normal hard working persons point of view and not some one who just puts it down to a ' bit of drunken fun'. my little sister was in the car and that is why it upset mi dad so much. so can i ask you funkymiss what would you have done in the situation

finally someone who sees it from the normal hard working persons point of view and not some one who just puts it down to a ' bit of drunken fun'. my little sister was in the car and that is why it upset mi dad so much. so can i ask you funkymiss what would you have done in the situation

Who even said it was 'a bit of drunken fun'? And how do you know he was a student? I would have rung the police, I don't know many women who would risk getting out and attacking the bloke

And how do you know he was a student?

he had a sheffield uni rugby hoodie on. thats how i know he was a student.

he had a sheffield uni rugby hoodie on. thats how i know he was a student.

I thought you might say that! lol fair enough. It's the rugby boys you got to watch, the lot of them :hihi:

I thought you might say that! lol fair enough. It's the rugby boys you got to watch, the lot of them :hihi:

not all of the just the ponce with the cocky accent

not all of the just the ponce with the cocky accent

Exactly, not all of them!

there are worse things they could have thrown, eggs, for example...yes i have been hit with a water bomb on my way out before and it was highly annoying, but it dried. Students finishing their year always act silly and i guess its just a fact of life. On my last day of school we got to chuck flower and eggs at each other, that was fun!!

so this is what the spongers spend our money on!!!

spongers!!! :o we have to pay that back!!!

spongers!!! :o we have to pay that back!!!

some people are just ignorant arent they! A LOAN MEANS YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK! and a sponger is someone who just takes and takes without giving anything back.

a sponger is someone who just takes and takes without giving anything back.

Also known as a Student Grant :hihi:

which is something that not everyone gets! besides, are they not giving back to society their skills and expertise they learn during their student life?

which is something that not everyone gets! besides, are they not giving back to society their skills and expertise they learn during their student life?

10/15yrs ago yes they would be, these days any muppet can go to just about any university in the country. The majority of students i know tossed it off for 3yrs then ended up with a run of the mill job that didn't actually require them to go to uni.

I appriciate those who go to Uni for a reason e.g. teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers etc, but those who go and do a degree in something of no use are wasting there time and money.

As for a student loan, don't make me laugh, there is a huge difference between a student loan and a normal loan. A friend of mine had £10k worth of debt on leaving uni (about 10yrs ago) and was paying it back at £60 at month!!!

and the teachers, doctors, nurses, etc are the people that get given the grants in the majority of cases. And dont make me laugh, some of us, dont run up a huge debt, my student loan, for 3 years was just under £2000 and i didnt get an overdraft. yes some people do abuse the system, but not all of us get over £10,000 worth of student loan, besides, they are paying it back anyway, it's not like they have declared themselves bankrupt in order to wipe all of their debts clean.

10/15yrs ago yes they would be, these days any muppet can go to just about any university in the country. The majority of students i know tossed it off for 3yrs then ended up with a run of the mill job that didn't actually require them to go to uni.

I appriciate those who go to Uni for a reason e.g. teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers etc, but those who go and do a degree in something of no use are wasting there time and money.

As for a student loan, don't make me laugh, there is a huge difference between a student loan and a normal loan. A friend of mine had £10k worth of debt on leaving uni (about 10yrs ago) and was paying it back at £60 at month!!!

What a load of rubbish. You need top grades to get onto my course and a lot of other courses in this country. Stop belittling people's hard work and making lazy generalisations. So teachers, doctors, nurses and engineers are the only people with worthwhile professions and degrees?? The jobs that I'll be going for require at the very least an undergraduate degree, so University is not a waste of money.

You pay a student loan back at such small rates that you barely notice them, it comes out of your wages when you are earning over 15k (I think). The opportunities that having a degree can open up far outweighs the financial costs. A lot of people want the experience too. It's like anything in life, it's how you use it! People doss off three years of their life by doing other foolish things too you know

Oh, and grants are there to enable students from poorer backgrounds to experience higher education.

Why don't you open your mind a little?

What a load of rubbish. You need top grades to get onto my course and a lot of other courses in this country. Stop belittling people's hard work and making lazy generalisations. So teachers, doctors, nurses and engineers are the only people with worthwhile professions and degrees?? The jobs that I'll be going for require at the very least an undergraduate degree, so University is not a waste of money.

You pay a student loan back at such small rates that you barely notice them, it comes out of your wages when you are earning over 15k (I think). The opportunities that having a degree can open up far outweighs the financial costs. A lot of people want the experience too. It's like anything in life, it's how you use it! People doss off three years of their life by doing other foolish things too you know

Oh, and grants are there to enable students from poorer backgrounds to experience higher education.

Why don't you open your mind a little?

:thumbsup: :clap: well said!!

Stop belittling people's hard work and making lazy generalisations.

Well there are a lot of lazy work shy students who can't be bothered to get jobs so would rather do 3yrs uni and sponge off there parents than getting a proper job. Students do about 4hrs of lectures a week, plus you get about 20wks a year holiday. Not really a lazy generalisation, more like stating a fact


So teachers, doctors, nurses and engineers are the only people with worthwhile professions and degrees?

Pretty much yes. Most employers prefer experienced staff than a know it all student who thinks doing a bit of photocopying is below them.

The jobs that I'll be going for require at the very least an undergraduate degree.

Good for you if you're working hard i have no problems.

You pay a student loan back at such small rates that you barely notice them, it comes out of your wages when you are earning over 15k.

This is correct but it is abused by many students who are only too happy to spend the majority of there time in the pub complaining they're skint.

The opportunities that having a degree can open up far outweighs the financial costs.

Not necesserily, many students get in thousands of pounds of debt and end up working in a call centre. Why not just cut out the middle man and start earning before spending?

A lot of people want the experience too. It's like anything in life, it's how you use it!

What experience does uni teach you?

People doss off three years of their life by doing other foolish things too you know.

Not when you've got a mortgage to pay love.

Oh, and grants are there to enable students from poorer backgrounds to experience higher education.

Fair enough

Why don't you open your mind a little?

Why don't you get off your student moral high ground and take a step into the real world, where the are responsibilities to others, bills to pay, you can't expect mum and dad to bail you out every 2 minutes when it all gets too much and where people have respect for others.

As for opening my mind, i've done that already thank you, i've travelled the world on two occasions, i've been to places you can only dream of, i'm living a life of satisfaction, i own a house, a car, i have a lovely wife, i've lived and worked in places such as Sydney and London and i have respect for others.

Just because you're at University it doesn't mean anyone owes you anything, you've not achieved anything yet, you are better than everyone else as much as students like to think they are and the world doesn't owe you a living.

Stop belittling people's hard work and making lazy generalisations.

Well there are a lot of lazy work shy students who can't be bothered to get jobs so would rather do 3yrs uni and sponge off there parents than getting a proper job. Students do about 4hrs of lectures a week, plus you get about 20wks a year holiday. Not really a lazy generalisation, more like stating a fact


So teachers, doctors, nurses and engineers are the only people with worthwhile professions and degrees?

Pretty much yes. Most employers prefer experienced staff than a know it all student who thinks doing a bit of photocopying is below them.

The jobs that I'll be going for require at the very least an undergraduate degree.

Good for you if you're working hard i have no problems.

You pay a student loan back at such small rates that you barely notice them, it comes out of your wages when you are earning over 15k.

This is correct but it is abused by many students who are only too happy to spend the majority of there time in the pub complaining they're skint.

The opportunities that having a degree can open up far outweighs the financial costs.

Not necesserily, many students get in thousands of pounds of debt and end up working in a call centre. Why not just cut out the middle man and start earning before spending?

A lot of people want the experience too. It's like anything in life, it's how you use it!

What experience does uni teach you?

People doss off three years of their life by doing other foolish things too you know.

Not when you've got a mortgage to pay love.

Oh, and grants are there to enable students from poorer backgrounds to experience higher education.

Fair enough

Why don't you open your mind a little?

Why don't you get off your student moral high ground and take a step into the real world, where the are responsibilities to others, bills to pay, you can't expect mum and dad to bail you out every 2 minutes when it all gets too much and where people have respect for others.

As for opening my mind, i've done that already thank you, i've travelled the world on two occasions, i've been to places you can only dream of, i'm living a life of satisfaction, i own a house, a car, i have a lovely wife, i've lived and worked in places such as Sydney and London and i have respect for others.

Just because you're at University it doesn't mean anyone owes you anything, you've not achieved anything yet, you are better than everyone else as much as students like to think they are and the world doesn't owe you a living.

easy tiger, you sound just a little bit bitter, open mind or not.

easy tiger, you sound just a little bit bitter, open mind or not.

Not bitter, just like a lot of people can't be doing with students bleeting on about how great they are and how society owes them.

University used to be about the elite going on the higher eduction, these days its just and excuse for any old tom, dick and harry to avoid doing a days work.

i didnt even read all of that, mainly because the fact that you said students do uni 3 days a week for four hours. Thats a joke within itself...what course are you talking about when you say this? Certainly not one that i have ever encountered or anyone i know have every encountered, i am in uni, on average 12 hours a week, plus i have a hell of a lot of work to do outside of the course. Get your facts straight please. I pay my bills, i pay for my car...and guess what, i also have a job!

i didnt even read all of that, mainly because the fact that you said students do uni 3 days a week for four hours. Thats a joke within itself...what course are you talking about when you say this? Certainly not one that i have ever encountered or anyone i know have every encountered, i am in uni, on average 12 hours a week, plus i have a hell of a lot of work to do outside of the course. Get your facts straight please. I pay my bills, i pay for my car...and guess what, i also have a job!

Well good for you, but i'm sorry to say you're in the minority.

My bro in law was on a course and in his final year had 4hrs of lectures a week.

As for your 12hrs a week......woooooooo, steady in tiger. You don't want to go wearing yourself out.

Stop belittling people's hard work and making lazy generalisations.

Well there are a lot of lazy work shy students who can't be bothered to get jobs so would rather do 3yrs uni and sponge off there parents than getting a proper job. Students do about 4hrs of lectures a week, plus you get about 20wks a year holiday. Not really a lazy generalisation, more like stating a fact


So teachers, doctors, nurses and engineers are the only people with worthwhile professions and degrees?

Pretty much yes. Most employers prefer experienced staff than a know it all student who thinks doing a bit of photocopying is below them.

The jobs that I'll be going for require at the very least an undergraduate degree.

Good for you if you're working hard i have no problems.

You pay a student loan back at such small rates that you barely notice them, it comes out of your wages when you are earning over 15k.

This is correct but it is abused by many students who are only too happy to spend the majority of there time in the pub complaining they're skint.

The opportunities that having a degree can open up far outweighs the financial costs.

Not necesserily, many students get in thousands of pounds of debt and end up working in a call centre. Why not just cut out the middle man and start earning before spending?

A lot of people want the experience too. It's like anything in life, it's how you use it!

What experience does uni teach you?

People doss off three years of their life by doing other foolish things too you know.

Not when you've got a mortgage to pay love.

Oh, and grants are there to enable students from poorer backgrounds to experience higher education.

Fair enough

Why don't you open your mind a little?

Why don't you get off your student moral high ground and take a step into the real world, where the are responsibilities to others, bills to pay, you can't expect mum and dad to bail you out every 2 minutes when it all gets too much and where people have respect for others.

As for opening my mind, i've done that already thank you, i've travelled the world on two occasions, i've been to places you can only dream of, i'm living a life of satisfaction, i own a house, a car, i have a lovely wife, i've lived and worked in places such as Sydney and London and i have respect for others.

Just because you're at University it doesn't mean anyone owes you anything, you've not achieved anything yet, you are better than everyone else as much as students like to think they are and the world doesn't owe you a living.

There's far too many points to pick you up on there, and frankly I don't think it's worth my time as your ignorance shines like a beacon.

For the record I was a student, had a great time, have sinced experienced all the things you list with smug glee above and now have bills and mortages to pay too. I was never bailed out by parents for anything.

There are good students, and bad students. Generalisation on your scale with such a complete lack of any factual evidence is just daft, frankly.

Well good for you, but i'm sorry to say you're in the minority.

My bro in law was on a course and in his final year had 4hrs of lectures a week.

As for your 12hrs a week......woooooooo, steady in tiger. You don't want to go wearing yourself out.

sorry, what do you do that makes you so much better than every student that has ever graced the planet??? At the end of the day, you obviously have some strange vendetta against students and i think you need to lighten up. :)...please just let me get back to my essay..i have nothing else to do ;)

that you said students do uni 3 days a week for four hours. Thats a joke within itself...

thats funny because the students me and mi mates pulled in the leadmill the other week only do 3 days a week, and some of them were doing more then one course

oh right, what courses were they doing? and they were doing more than one course each?!! were they foundation courses?

oh right, what courses were they doing? and they were doing more than one course each?!! were they foundation courses?

the one i got in with was doing buisnes and i dont know the other one.
think it coild have been a language

You cant stereotype students into one group, fair enough there many be idiots out there who pull stupid pranks. But not all of them.

As for sponging, I get nothing off the state, I have worked since I left further education at 17, never claimed for anything, I pay all my own bills, have my own house. I dont even qualify for a student grant.

I work 35 hours a week, go to university for 6 hours a week (part time night school after work 67% of a full time course) and then have to do all the work which is required out of university time (which is quite a lot). I don't get any sort of grant for this, I don't want to claim any sort of grant for this and whilst I study I am paying my national insurance and taxes .... I would not consider this to be sponging! Oh and paying nearly £1,000 a year for the priviledge. I dont even get a loan to assist with my fees!

Evening all, thought I'd add a few things to this discussion:

First of all, about me. I'm from Liverpool and a 2nd year student. My course typically requires my attendance for about 10 hours a week, and is regarded as one of the lowest work volumes going. On top of this 10 hours, they recommend that I do 30 hours reading and independent work. So thats 40 hours a week - Although I probably do closer to 25 myself.
I get a loan, overdraft & I didn't get a grant in first year but this year I've got one. I work. This all means that I can pay for my rent / bills / course / food / course material and also social life by myself, not that my parents would really be able to help me if I asked. I'm not going to be going away this summer because I'll be in Sheffield working Mon-Sat 9-5 so that I can focus a bit more on studying in my final year. I'd say I'm a pretty typical student.
I'm from a working class family and I'm proof that you don't need to be rich to get here, I live pretty comfortably.
I messed about a bit in first year - not throwing waterbombs or cans - but I was probably a bit of a general nuisance. To be honest, I think university - and local businesses - invite this kind of behaviour in first years: tons of bars & cheap nights, 18 year olds living away from home for the first time and, probably most importantly, the first year doesn't count. Imagine how much less hassle first years would be if it did?! (I'm not saying one way or another that it should, I enjoyed mine very much :D )

Right, next, about the whole throwing of the can thing. Fair enough your dad feeling aggreived and getting money off him for damages. Thats fine, I accept that. But beating him up? Thats far worse than throwing a can at a vehicle, and I'm surprised no-ones mentioned it. You knew he was in the university rugby team, thats enough to trace him. The police would have taken you more seriously if you'd filed a complaint against them. As it is, your dad's acted even worse than the student, and could have got arrested himself. The student was totally in the wrong, but the way your dad handled the situation was, too.

The waterbomb thing has been dealed with enough I think, yes, report it. To be honest though I only really see the problem because the catapult could make it hurt, if they were just throwing then theres no real damage. I'm sure an interviewer would overlook your soginess if you explained what had happened to them!

And lastly, students and locals can get on! My favourite 2 pubs in Sheffield are the Brown Bear & The Hallamshire in Crookesmoor, and I talk to plenty of locals when I go in. All it takes is a bit of mutual respect and common courtesy, at the end of the day we're all people, we all love Sheffield or we wouldn't be living here and at least thats a starting point.

Why don't you get off your student moral high ground and take a step into the real world, where the are responsibilities to others, bills to pay, you can't expect mum and dad to bail you out every 2 minutes when it all gets too much and where people have respect for others.

As for opening my mind, i've done that already thank you, i've travelled the world on two occasions, i've been to places you can only dream of, i'm living a life of satisfaction, i own a house, a car, i have a lovely wife, i've lived and worked in places such as Sydney and London and i have respect for others.

Just because you're at University it doesn't mean anyone owes you anything, you've not achieved anything yet, you are better than everyone else as much as students like to think they are and the world doesn't owe you a living.


For your information, 'mum and dad' don't help me out one bit! I manage on my own, pay my bills and have done since I was 18.

It's just a shame that your travels have not encouraged you to see beyond your nose. Travels, a car, a wife and material things do not make you a nice person. You come across as very bitter and disrespectful.

I never said anyone owes me anything. People are not perfect and some students act like fools and make mistakes but then so do other young people who aren't students! The world does not owe me a living, which is why I am at University learning so I can become qualified to earn my own way in life. What is it you have against qualifications?

Why do you say I have not achieved anything yet? You don't know me. I've worked, volunteered, travelled a bit myself and I don't need to have a lot of money to be a worthy person.

Yep. They're our doctors, solicitors, engineers, chemists, scientists researching into cures for diseases etc etc without which *your* life would be much poorer. For every twit doing stuff like this (and I would without doubt report them to the university authorities and the police - it's not a prank, it's assault, as someone has already said and they deserve to be punished) there are many others working damn hard to get a degree/qualify in their chosen field. What you have said is utter nonsense.

As for purdyamos who says "In fact students and those from middle class 'civilised' homes can make people's lives as much of a misery, but it's never taken as seriously" - students might come up with stupid and dangerous pranks but you don't often hear of them stealing cars and robbing people do you?
I'm not sure where you get the idea that all students are studying for high ranking professions. There are lots of degrees such as "Media Studies" on which very few of the students graduating will end up in employment relevant to their degree. In fact very many will end up in jobs which can and are done by people that left school at 16. I'm not saying these degrees are worthless but you have to get into perspective what they will actually qualify students for. But whatever a student is studying there is no excuse for OTT "high jinks". You wouldn't say mugging is OK because it's not as bad as murder would you? Likewise throwing water bombs at innocent passers by isn't acceptable just because it's not as bad as stealing cars or mugging. As other people have said some of these "high jinks" are not harmless. Would you want your elderly mother to be pelted with a water bomb?

thats funny because the students me and mi mates pulled in the leadmill the other week only do 3 days a week, and some of them were doing more then one course

By the same rational, if you went to China and the first person you saw was Caucasian, you would think that all the people in China were Caucasian?

thats funny because the students me and mi mates pulled in the leadmill the other week only do 3 days a week, and some of them were doing more then one course

All elephants are grey but not all grey things are elephants though are they !:hihi:

i hate students bumming about in our city sheffield. you do jack. except 2 lecture's a day prob if that. i hope you all get water bummed:D

Water bummed? Thats a new one, please DO explain. Though im not a student myself, many of my friends are and I can tell you that 2 lectures a day is rather alot.
Also, what do you mean 'our' city?! Just because you're not a stu...
Actually, I really can't be bothered to argue. I'm sure you realise that you're completly unreasonable without me telling you.

Bring back HANGING !! thats what i say, lazy good for nothing students,, they do have one good quality though ? with so many being resident in such a small area they make great targets for muggers hence less chance you or me the good folks of sheffield getting turned over for our possesions!!! bet yer never though of that one then ????:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

As for opening my mind, i've done that already thank you, i've travelled the world on two occasions, i've been to places you can only dream of, i'm living a life of satisfaction, i own a house, a car, i have a lovely wife, i've lived and worked in places such as Sydney and London and i have respect for others.



Oh, I love it when people come out with lines such as this.

Oh, I love it when people come out with lines such as this.

Haha! Id not read that bit before, I love it!! :hihi: