Just have to get this off my chest...

I was waiting at the traffic lights at Hillsborough Corner, coming from Pizza Hut direction when turning left from Middlewood Road was a small blue 4 Wheel Drive vehicle. Not only did the driver ignore a 'No Left Turn' sign, but he was on his mobile phone and narrowly missed an elderly person crossing the road.

It really gets on my nerves when I see selfish, incompetant and dangerous driving.

He should be a learner driver, not me :P

not 100% sure of your description but this area is a problem.

The number of times there has been a near accident because drivers zoom left onto Bradfield Road (where greenwoods is on the corner) from Middlewood road is ridiculous.

There has been at least two occasions where the little green man was up and my son obediently started trotting off only to be dragged back because of some moron who cannot read roadsigns.

Moon

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
not 100% sure of your description but this area is a problem.

The number of times there has been a near accident because drivers zoom left onto Bradfield Road (where greenwoods is on the corner) from Middlewood road is ridiculous.

There has been at least two occasions where the little green man was up and my son obediently started trotting off only to be dragged back because of some moron who cannot read roadsigns.

Moon

Don't trust drivers anywhere, even if you see the green man lol!

Pedastrians can be fools also, a mother and child walked out across the road without looking yesterday whilst I was driving on my lesson.

Nearly had to do an emergency stop :o had it covered though, saw them ages before they stepped out :thumbsup:

Expect the unexpected or get hurt. That applies to cyclists, motorists, pedestrians, pillions and passengers.

The standard of driving is pathetic and what's more, those who know they're breaking the law don't care. Hence drivers still using mobile phones. Personally I'd like to see them get hit with a £5000 fine (if their own phone/use) or £20,000 if used in a business context. They should then be disqualified for a year.


Also, introduce a five yearly driving exam for under 70 year olds, every year for 70 and above (free in the latter case).

Originally posted by Ousetunes
Also, introduce a five yearly driving exam for under 70 year olds, every year for 70 and above (free in the latter case).

That's a bit extreme really, I think we should increase the punishments really than making them take the exam again. Imagine the waiting list for driving tests???

I saw a foreign lady driving down rutland rd last week with L plates on but she was on her own and swerving all over the place .. i doubt if she'd past her test !! :nono:

Originally posted by Ousetunes
Expect the unexpected or get hurt. That applies to cyclists, motorists, pedestrians, pillions and passengers.

The standard of driving is pathetic and what's more, those who know they're breaking the law don't care. Hence drivers still using mobile phones. Personally I'd like to see them get hit with a £5000 fine (if their own phone/use) or £20,000 if used in a business context. They should then be disqualified for a year.


Also, introduce a five yearly driving exam for under 70 year olds, every year for 70 and above (free in the latter case).

Speaking as a professional, I couldn't agree more, but with the re-testing aspect 5 years and one year is a bit much.

Better that some element of re-testing be carried out every 10 years for under-70's (ie when the photocard comes up for renewal) and every 3 years for oevr 70's (when they have to re-apply for their licences)

Originally posted by mer1002
I saw a foreign lady driving down rutland rd last week with L plates on but she was on her own and swerving all over the place .. i doubt if she'd past her test !! :nono:

Was it a green L-plate?

If so that means she has just passed her test

Or the L plate could be for her son/daughter and she was probably just a crap driver. Was a woman after all :P

:o

*ready to be flamed*

Agree with the re-testing - i am confident that if i had to re-take my test then i woul dprobably fail so it would knock a lot of the bad habits out of my driving that you pick up.

If people fail then they go back to prov license and can have one free re-sit

But then again judging how many people drive without licenses/MOT/insurance etc would this make much difference???

My driving instructor always told me that I had to drive for the benefit of everyone else around me - basically assume that they're going to do something dumb and that you need to watch out for that dumbness!

When I did the police defensive driving course the guy who taught me there said that as we were aware we might have soem issues with our driving, we weren't necessarily the people they wanted to see on the course as we probably would be reasonably careful.

I think a lot of problems are due to signage and driver education. I'm very concerned when I see the 'Pass your test in 5 days' services advertised because I fear that the driver will have done precisely that - passed the test - rather than being capable of driving safely on busy streets alone.

Joe

Originally posted by mer1002
I saw a foreign lady driving down rutland rd last week with L plates on
how do you know she was foreign, was she singing ricky martin songs?

Originally posted by JoePritchard
My driving instructor always told me that I had to drive for the benefit of everyone else around me - basically assume that they're going to do something dumb and that you need to watch out for that dumbness!

Same here.

My instructor told me that to be a safe driver I had to be thinking for myself AND for all the other road users. I should assume everyone else around (drivers and pedestrians) was an idiot, and take appropriate care.

Seemed a bit extreme at the time, but my God, he was absolutely right.

StarSparkle

Some people should just stay home.

...selfish pedestrians who march across a road without first checking for drivers.

Impatient drivers who expect pedestrians to cross a road in seconds.

Originally posted by tiffy
Some people should just stay home.

...selfish pedestrians who march across a road without first checking for drivers.

Impatient drivers who expect pedestrians to cross a road in seconds.

Not sure what point your trying to make, but getting back to the original post, the elderly lady trying to cross the road was doing so with the green man. She did look, and it is a good job otherwise I am quite sure the dangerous driver (who was a suited middle aged man, by the way) would have knocked her down. Given her age, it could easily have become a fatal.

In the nice weather I sometimes sit and watch passing traffic at Woodseats just to count the idiotic drivers, usually after a few minutes I'll of spotted more than one. It can be a variety of things, impatience, stopping on a crossing, not bothering to indicate and of course using mobile phones. Firstly I still can't undestand why a mobile phone is so essential they can be seen everywhere and secondly why can't it be law that cars be fitted with something that sends out an interference signal when the engine is running so that phones will not operate inside the caar. Okay I suppose there are problems with making sure the interference isn't going beyond the confines of the car but come on tech types is there an answer?
Thinking about it though if the interference signal did extend away from the car it would stop all these one sided conversations I have to listen to and the idiots who are so engrossed with their phone they walk straight into you.

Originally posted by cloud
Not sure what point your trying to make, but getting back to the original post, the elderly lady trying to cross the road was doing so with the green man. She did look, and it is a good job otherwise I am quite sure the dangerous driver (who was a suited middle aged man, by the way) would have knocked her down. Given her age, it could easily have become a fatal.

'Selfish' and 'Impatient' being key words applied to both drivers and pedestrians which cause problems for everyone concerned.

Originally posted by tiffy
'Selfish' and 'Impatient' being key words applied to both drivers and pedestrians which cause problems for everyone concerned.

The pedestrians aren't the people in charge of a heavy chunks of metal on wheels that can easily kill or injure other people without harming the driver at all.

Drivers have a responsibility to be patient and unselfish. There's no excuse for reckless driving that puts other people's life at risk.

the best bit of advise i have ever heard -

"ALWAYS assume everyone else on the road is a total pratt"

Originally posted by ptigga
The pedestrians aren't the people in charge of a heavy chunks of metal on wheels that can easily kill or injure other people without harming the driver at all.

Drivers have a responsibility to be patient and unselfish. There's no excuse for reckless driving that puts other people's life at risk.

But don't pedestrians have a responsibility too? Not to put their own lives in danger and not to cause accidents by irresponsible behaviour?

I'm not referring to the person mentioned in the first post as he quite rightly would not expect traffic from that direction. But there are plenty of instances of dangerous crossing in Hillsborough as well as dangerous driving. As a pedestrian, I check before crossing the road. If a car is indicating and obviously about to pull into the road I'm crossing, I wait. The amount of people you see though who don't even seem to notice that it's a road they are crossing or try to run across quickly and unexpectedly is unbelievable. Anybody who has ever tried turning right off Holme Lane will know what I'm talking about.

So maybe we should all assume that everybody on the road and pavement is a potential pratt.

as a motorcyclist, i've been taught to assume everyone is stupid and is out to get you......and it rings true!

[. Anybody who has ever tried turning right off Holme Lane will know what I'm talking about.

So maybe we should all assume that everybody on the road and pavement is a potential pratt. [/B][/QUOTE]

There is no right turn from Holme Lane except for buses, trams and taxis.....similarly they are the only permissable vehicles from Middlewood road ahead through to Infirmary Road.

Its going to be a real money spinner for the council when the tramgate cameras are live in the new year why so many people break the law here they could well afford to reduce our council tax.

Originally posted by cloud

There is no right turn from Holme Lane except for buses, trams and taxis.....similarly they are the only permissable vehicles from Middlewood road ahead through to Infirmary Road. [/B]

No, off Holme Lane, heading away from Hillsborough towards Malin Bridge, there are a couple of right turns you can take after the one ways.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

I saw a classic today when driving back from Meadowhall Retail Park. Was driving up Broughton La towards Darnall, and I passed a car waiting to turn onto Broughton La towards attercliffe. And a dirty old whote box van was waiting to turn on to the road where the car was. I noticed the van had two wheels on the pavement to get past the car, seems that the road was narrow, as I passed there was an almighty crash, and I saw in the rear view mirror, that the van had ripped a large metal structure, possibly a roller shutter or a heavy signage off the building on the corner. I couldn't stop and I wonder if the van hung around to admit his act of vandalism? :o

Originally posted by d71146
Its going to be a real money spinner for the council when the tramgate cameras are live in the new year why so many people break the law here they could well afford to reduce our council tax.

All camera fines go to the treasury, the council won't benefit a bean

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I couldn't stop and I wonder if the van hung around to admit his act of vandalism? :o

I doubt it very much.

I spend alot of time trying to get out of the junction from rudyard road onto hillsborough corner and was very interested to read this thread. I am frequently amazed at the lack of attention from some drivers towards other road users. I can sometimes spend upto 10 mins trying to get out of this junction and this is mainly due to selfish arse wipes who block the junction without so much as a second thought for anyone else on the road. This is made ten times worse when selfish pricks (mainly in trani vans) park and unload thus blocking the junction on both sides creating traffic chaos when other drivers then can't turn into rudyard because the road is blocked!! I also have to say that bus drivers are the worst offenders for blocking people in here and what makes it worse is when they look at you and still block you in!!! We all need to be somewhere however, with a bit of thought for other people around we'd all get there a bit quicker. Thatchers kids!!!!