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I am fed up of trying to explain to people what a proper fishcake looks and tastes like (2 slices of potato with cod between and in batter). As opposed the crushed up cod and parsley risole things they pass off for fishcakes down here.
Anybody got a photo of a fishcake ?
Originally posted by ptblade
I am fed up of trying to explain to people what a proper fishcake looks and tastes like (2 slices of potato with cod between and in batter). As opposed the crushed up cod and parsley risole things they pass off for fishcakes down here.
Anybody got a photo of a fishcake ? I'm having one 2moro i'll take a picture of it for you :hihi: unless someone can do it tonight :D
that would be great - with something very sheffield in the background perhaps ?? the river don or a disused steel works or even the imposing bramall lane. A fishcake photo shoot in the hole in the road would have been just great but alas ...
Originally posted by ptblade
that would be great - with something very sheffield in the background perhaps ?? the river don or a disused steel works or even the imposing bramall lane. A fishcake photo shoot in the hole in the road would have been just great but alas ... :hihi: you dont want much do you :D
my daughter has a chip shop ,i had 1 for my tea:blush: ,sadly no pic
Sorry I got carried away.
A simple photo of a fishcake (with a mouth full removed inorder to see the inards) would be superb
Originally posted by ptblade
Sorry I got carried away.
A simple photo of a fishcake (with a mouth full removed inorder to see the inards) would be superb I'll get my girlfriend to model with it :heyhey:
jon if u pm me ,u can have 1 for free:)
i went to germany and asked an english chip van ,for a fish cake,it was a rissole,i showed him how to make proper fishcakes:) ,hes euros in now :(
Originally posted by pauline
jon if u pm me ,u can have 1 for free:) :clap: trouble is time i take it home it will be cold :hihi: thanks for the very kind offer unless this chip shop is near me :suspect:
Did you know that there IS another place that sells Sheffield-style Fishcakes- Whitehaven in Cumbria. They are not as good [how could they possibly be], but made on the same lines, and sold as "Patties".
Also, as an ex-pat Sheffielder, I was interested to see a version of the Sheffield-style Fishcake sold in the Southport [Lancs] branch of Marks and Spencer, under the "Regional" range of foods last year. They were called something along the lines of "Yorkshire Fishcakes", and described on the packet as being the type eaten a hundred years ago in Yorkshire and Lancashire. I wrote to M&S, informing them that they are part of Sheffield culture, suggesting that they remarket them accurately to give my beloved home city the credit. I received a rather patronising reply, and I haven't seen them available since. A shame really, as our Fishcakes and Meat and Potato Pie [the "plate" pies eaten with Henderson's Relish] should be more well known. Or maybe we should keep them to ourselves?
superCol 17-11-2004, 21:39 Originally posted by timo
our Fishcakes and Meat and Potato Pie [the "plate" pies eaten with Henderson's Relish] should be more well known. Or maybe we should keep them to ourselves?
I disagree. We have to introduce the world to good cuisine. I'll be back in Sheff with the missus and kids at Easter. Where is the current best place to get them acquainted with it. Sullivans chippy on Fife Street seems to be gone (see relevant thread) so I need help.
I just wanna fish n' a cake. So help me please.
Cheers mate.
Ginger_Kitty 17-11-2004, 21:53 I once went into a chippy in Whitby (unfortunately now under new ownership) and asked for a fishcake.
'Sheffield fishcake or Barnsley fishcake?' i was asked!! :suspect:
i decided to be awkward and asked for a Doncaster fishcake (well i'm from Doncaster!!!) to see what i got (it was the mush one).
Turned out the bloke that ran the chippie was from Barnsley and knew how to make a proper tatie/fish/tatie fishcake :D :clap:
(also had one in Leeds once....)
:blush: oh dear at my last mouthful i forgot i had to take a picture of my 85p fishcake :hihi: sorry
Up here in the North East of England you can get both types..The small round bread crumb type is called "a fishcake" and the larger batter covered potato fish type is called "a pattie" (must be pronouced with a Geordie accent)
Until i moved to Sheffield from being down South i didnt know there was a difference... I thought a Fishcake was a Fishcake... That was before i was told differently...
What we call a Fishcake... is apparently a Risole :?
Getting used to the differences now :)
Originally posted by ptblade
I am fed up of trying to explain to people what a proper fishcake looks and tastes like (2 slices of potato with cod between and in batter). As opposed the crushed up cod and parsley risole things they pass off for fishcakes down here.
Anybody got a photo of a fishcake ?
having a mate that works in a chip shop can i just tell ya the "fish" in the middle is heads,including the eyes and tails...i havn't touched one since i found this out:(
muddycoffee 20-11-2004, 01:08 if you want a breadcake in barnsley you have to ask for a teacake.
If you want a teacake in barnsley you have to ask for a teakake with currents in it!
If you want a breadcake in chesterfield you have to ask for a bap. This is amusing because baps is also an old word for a ladies boobs, as I'm sure you all know.
If you go south a bit to Leicesester, and you want a breadcake, then you have to ask for a roll. Is it any wonder that you are having a rissole - fishcake confusion event?
Originally posted by ptblade
I am fed up of trying to explain to people what a proper fishcake looks and tastes like (2 slices of potato with cod between and in batter). As opposed the crushed up cod and parsley risole things they pass off for fishcakes down here.
Anybody got a photo of a fishcake ? I have lived in Barnsley for 26 yrs & the first time I went to a chippy around the corner from where I live I had a big argument about a fishcake,I asked for a fishcake & they gave me a rissole,I told them a proper fishcake is 2 pieces of potatoe & fish in the middle surrounded by batter,they call them Patties,well that's Barnsley for you.They call a breadcake a teacake,that's why us Sheffielders call Barnsley folk Breadcakes.
I could really do with a photo of a proper fishcake inorder to show these people what they are missing.
If you havn't got a digital camera what about using one of those passport photo booth's.
Can anyone help ?
Mad_Mick 29-11-2004, 20:47 I've lived near Peterborough now for the last 20 years. I only get propper fishcakes when I come back to Sheffield. I am told though theres a chippy in Boston that does em. Not suprising realy as lots of Sheffielders fish around Boston. Also I once had em in Harry Ramsdens in Blackpool. :)
I got a fishcake in Ingoldmells once dunno if they still do them?
my daughter has a picture of a fish cake,i havent got a digital camera,but if you pm me with your address ,ill gladly post it to you,:clap:
Moving to Chesterfield from Sheffield in the 70's I soon learnt that asking for a fishcake got you a tiny breadcombed mushed up potato with a hint of fish and a smattering of manufactured parsley but asking for a fsh fritter got you a real Shefield fishcake Sadly I made the mistake of moving to Nottingham where the fishcake was of the aforesaid frozen variety. Constant requests for the traditional fishcake, pikelets and bread cakes combined with my use of the terminology 'love' made me an outsider from the start. I maried a man from Nottingham-could these essential differences be responsible for our divorce?
Draggletail 08-04-2005, 00:33 Originally posted by kirky
having a mate that works in a chip shop can i just tell ya the "fish" in the middle is heads,including the eyes and tails...i havn't touched one since i found this out:(
It's thoughts like this that turns you vegetarian, kirky:D
Originally posted by Timbuck
Up here in the North East of England you can get both types..The small round bread crumb type is called "a fishcake" and the larger batter covered potato fish type is called "a pattie" (must be pronouced with a Geordie accent)
Dead right mate.....and the sausage meat parcels in batter with baked beans in the middle 'beanies'!!!
Oh and I wish Sheffield takeaways did a 'parmesan'...God I miss them so much........I spent 5 years in the Boro and loved the Boro Special - was available in every fish and chip shop, kebab house, restaurant, pizzeria.....hope they'll arrive in Sheffield some time!!
Originally posted by Ando
Dead right mate.....and the sausage meat parcels in batter with baked beans in the middle 'beanies'!!!
Oh and I wish Sheffield takeaways did a 'parmesan'...God I miss them so much........I spent 5 years in the Boro and loved the Boro Special - was available in every fish and chip shop, kebab house, restaurant, pizzeria.....hope they'll arrive in Sheffield some time!!
Oh my Gawd.......Parmesans...my favourite....everytime family/friends visit me (I am originally from M'bro - lived here since 1997!!) I insist they bring me a stock load of Newboulds pork pies/sausage rolls and a parmo from La Casa on Linthorpe Road.....
Come on Sheffield please please please introduce the Parmo onto the Menu.....I had a 1 hour rant at the guy in Chubby's to start doing these but he never took any notice.....nor did the guy in Pepe's.....or the guy in Pizza Kasra....am I just wasting my breath......
Would be real money spinners.......
:clap:
dowkeruk 08-04-2005, 10:03 When I was young, in the 40's, I think fishcakes (the
proper variety) were called scallops, or have I got this wrong?
Perhaps these were fishcakes without the fish. Used to
get them from a chippy behind the Essoldo at Sheffield Lane
Top.
Greybeard 08-04-2005, 17:23 Originally posted by dowkeruk
When I was young, in the 40's, I think fishcakes (the
proper variety) were called scallops, or have I got this wrong?
Perhaps these were fishcakes without the fish. Used to
get them from a chippy behind the Essoldo at Sheffield Lane
Top.
If memory serves me well scallops were just deep fried slices of potato. Scallops three ha'pence, chips thrupence, fishcake fourpence and fish was a tanner. Can't recall the price of mushy peas ;)
Edit : Anyone remember faggots ? - they were a bit like onion bargees.
Kristian 08-04-2005, 17:58 Originally posted by shieshuk
Oh my Gawd.......Parmesans...my favourite....everytime family/friends visit me (I am originally from M'bro - lived here since 1997!!) I insist they bring me a stock load of Newboulds pork pies/sausage rolls and a parmo from La Casa on Linthorpe Road.....
Come on Sheffield please please please introduce the Parmo onto the Menu.....I had a 1 hour rant at the guy in Chubby's to start doing these but he never took any notice.....nor did the guy in Pepe's.....or the guy in Pizza Kasra....am I just wasting my breath......
Would be real money spinners.......
:clap:
What's a Parmesan? I'm assuming it's not just a bit of smelly cheese in this case? :confused:
Originally posted by Greybeard
Edit : Anyone remember faggots ? - they were a bit like onion bargees. [/B]
You can still buy them in most supermarket freezers. Brains Faggots. Just to tickle the tastebuds ;)
http://freespace.virgin.net/daz.bert/mirror/rudefood/food/faggots.htm
Greybeard 08-04-2005, 19:59 Originally posted by owdlad
You can still buy them in most supermarket freezers. Brains Faggots. Just to tickle the tastebuds ;)
Don't think I fancy them now :P
My grandad told me they used to be called 'apny ducks, but when they went up to a penny they had to call them something else so they called them faggots, - and they were made from what respectable pork butchers hadn't the nerve to put in sausages and pork pies :o
rubydazzler 08-04-2005, 20:47 you can get potato scallops and proper Sheffield fishcakes at Woodseats Fisheries in the Woodseats shopping centre on Chesterfield Rd .... yummmy!
I think the correct term for the mushed up one with the parsley is rissole ... if you look in a recipe book, there they are and they are always called rissoles ... dunno why they get called fishcakes in other areas ...
I want to know about these parmesans ... what are they and can we get any sent over for us to sample at a meet??? I love parmesan cheese, i have it on lots of savoury food along with the Henderson's .... my taste buds are totally screwed up!!!:P
Originally posted by Kristian
What's a Parmesan? I'm assuming it's not just a bit of smelly cheese in this case? :confused:
oh no very wrong Kristian....it is either a chicken or pork escallop in breadcrumbs covered in bechamel sauce (like a lasagne topping) and cheese !!! Yum Yum
In Teesside they are about a 9'' inch pizza size and are generally served in a pizza box with a separate polystyrene box loaded with Chips and Salad and choice of sauce (garlic or chilli)....at takeaways they are generally about £6 but easily serve 2....
Fab - see also here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tees/food/parmo/teesside_recipe.shtml
Been looking for a picture of one but no success as yet - I will let you know if I do....
:thumbsup:
rubydazzler 08-04-2005, 20:59 oh how disappointing .... it's made from bits of dead animal :(
oh well, another culinary dream dashed .. :(
thanks anyway shieshuk for posting the details .... in another life I think I'd have found it totally yummy ... :P
melthebell 08-04-2005, 21:17 the chip shop food i always remember from sheffield and still find quite amusing, 10 years on, was the chippy down the road past rebels, on the right at the very end just before you get to the magic roundabout there was a chippy, and i always remember the hand written sign in the window advertising battered squid rings.
Originally posted by rubydazzler
oh how disappointing .... it's made from bits of dead animal :(
oh well, another culinary dream dashed .. :(
thanks anyway shieshuk for posting the details .... in another life I think I'd have found it totally yummy ... :P
Sorry.....veggies!!!
SlimboyFat 08-04-2005, 23:50 I believe all the local chippies in Rotherham still do the potato-fish-potato verieties.
I'm 100% on Fiveways (Stag Island) and Davians (Clifton) and I don't remember not seeing them at any others.
Not a fan of the Rissole so I always ask for a "Fish Scollop" and always get the right one.
A mate once fell for the rissole instead of a fish scollop at skeggy. It seems they advertise them as Fishcakes and Yorkshire Fishcakes but as seen in this thread, they are called different in different parts of yorkshire so different chippies in skeggy have different ones labelled as "Yorkshire".
A few more.....
Manchester - Breadcake = Barm
Loughborough dont have a Butty
Most of the south dont serve peas (and definately not mushy) - was in Eastbourne last year and went to a chippy for dinner. Got them wrapped to walk back to the car. When I opened the pea carton they were of the garden variety. Now I love Garden Peas but they are a pain to eat with a small wooden fork.
Kristian 09-04-2005, 01:44 Originally posted by rubydazzler
oh how disappointing .... it's made from bits of dead animal :(
oh well, another culinary dream dashed .. :(
thanks anyway shieshuk for posting the details .... in another life I think I'd have found it totally yummy ... :P
I don't eat meat RubyD! That said, there isn't a single bit of permesan that is Veggie; I'ts all made with animal rennet!
K x
I was a student in Sheffield in the 1980's and this is one thing thats always intrigued me. I'm from Horncastle in Lincolnshire. Sheffield Fishcakes were spot on after a good night on the ale. In Horncastle at the time they were known as scallops (when I went in the chippie up Pond Rd I got short shrift asking for the old scallops). Another beauty is the different words for the batter bits. In most places in Lincolnshire and South Yorkshire its "Scraps" but in Horncastle it's "Scrumps". I love Fish and Chip Shops me!
rubydazzler 10-04-2005, 16:59 Originally posted by Kristian
I don't eat meat RubyD! That said, there isn't a single bit of permesan that is Veggie; I'ts all made with animal rennet!
K x
I'm not sure how relevant you not eating meat is to me liking parmesan? But I've never claimed to be a vegetarian - i just don't eat meat, I eat fish and cheese and drink skim milk. The parmesan I buy just says in the ingedients "made from unpasturised cows milk" it doesn't mention rennet at all, although I'm aware that it's used in cheese making ... you can get vegetarian rennet also you know. So you can still have your cheese even if you're a staunch veggie :)
I was looking in the freezers at the supermarket and the "parmesans" sound as though they resemble those things they call "kievs"?
Still can't beat the good old sheffield fishcake though :thumbsup:
Kristian 10-04-2005, 20:30 Originally posted by rubydazzler
I'm not sure how relevant you not eating meat is to me liking parmesan?
I'm confused; it's not. I didn't say it was. :huh:
Originally posted by rubydazzler
But I've never claimed to be a vegetarian
I didn't say you did! ;)
Originally posted by rubydazzler
i just don't eat meat, I eat fish and cheese and drink skim milk. The parmesan I buy just says in the ingedients "made from unpasturised cows milk" it doesn't mention rennet at all, although I'm aware that it's used in cheese making ... you can get vegetarian rennet also you know.
That's like me really. I could LIVE on fresh fish, especially salmon. I have some form of fresh fish most days. While I will eat fish, I don't eat any form of by-product from any other animal e.g. rennet, gelatine, glycerine (animal based), lard, stock etc.
Cheese I avoid unless it's clearly marked with a 'V' symbol, or states it doesn't contain animal rennet
K x
RE SHEFFIELD FISHCAKES LOVE THEM TWO SLICES OF SPUDS WITH FISH IN THE MIDDLE.I WAS BORN IN SHEFFIELD BUT MOVED TO AUSTRALIA AND I DID MISS THEM SO I TOLDOUR LOCAL FISH AND CHIPPY HOW TO MAKE THEM AND THEY TURNED OUT LIKE THE ONES I REMEMBER .ALSO A SCOLLOP IN AUSTRALIA IS A SMALL SHELL FISH DIPPED IN HOT BATTER OR A SLICE OF POTATO ALSO DIPPED IN HOT BATTER.DEPENDS ON WHAT STATE YOU LIVE IN.
Fishcakes are still available, or at least they were about a couple of months ago, at one of the chippies in Tideswell.
They are on their price list as Yorkshire fishcakes.
x_LoUiSe_x 13-04-2005, 14:57 mmmmmm................
parmesans :D my fave!
when i lived in redcar w had them every other friday night from the pizza shop, yummy yummy yummy!!!
infact my mouths watering for one now! i'll have to get one at the weekend when im back home for a visit!
they dont sell them in sheffield though, nearest ive found is a "smoothered chicken" on the menu at Arundel in ecclesfield/chapeltown, it was quite nice but not the same!
oh n back on topic, my mum used to have patties from the chippy when i was lil but i stuck to a good old spam fritter! lol i dont like fish, lol
Has anyone tried making fish cakes at home ?
Wonder if they stay in one piece when deep fried ?
creaghan 13-04-2005, 21:45 I've Moved to cardiff and down here they've never heard of fish-cakes, it's enough to make ya homesick
Is it a fishcake like i know it or a rissole as a Barnsley pall of mine says!?
Oh and the other... ok I call it a breadcake... my mate calls it a bap and in Lancashire its a Barmcake or summat?
WHY OH WHY!?
lazyfish 15-04-2005, 15:05 It's a plain old bun where I come from.
marketman 15-04-2005, 15:07 it's a cob from where I came from, and it should be called a fishcake coz captain birdseye says so!!!
x_LoUiSe_x 15-04-2005, 15:08 Originally posted by scottf
here we go!!!!!
AGEN! lol
fishcake thread (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21440)
sheffieldfox 15-04-2005, 15:08 I'm with marketman here, its a cob where I come from too, although everyone I tell that up here does not believe me!
Classic Rock 15-04-2005, 15:09 I've been led to believe that a fishcake is larger, covered in batter with a slice of potato through the middle. A rissole is smaller, as you'd buy from the supermarket, covered in breadcrumbs and mashed up fish inside. Different products.
As for the bread roll thingy. No idea, everyone calls it something different regionally.
Swan_Vesta 15-04-2005, 15:12 I experienced minor problems with the whole rissole/fishcake issue and took the stance of regardless of what I know it as, I'll ask for a rissole opposed to a fishcake in order to avoid the inevitable "What, you mean a rissole?" exchange.
Similar reasoning can be applied to the bap /breadcake/ barmcake debacle.
When in Rome and all that ...........
Why though and what the hell is a bun? I thought it was a sponge thing with icing on...
argh! getting worse!
okay Swan_Vesta but when I stopped in bloody Brincliffe/Treeton way its a damn Rissole and Intake say Rissole too..... :'(
Originally posted by burny
Oh and the other... ok I call it a breadcake... my mate calls it a bap and in Lancashire its a Barmcake or summat?
It's a muffin, :banana:
OH NO!
Please God no.... not another name....
..... I'm Melting!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kristian 15-04-2005, 15:59 Threads Merged; Please search before starting a new topic!
the only place i could not get one is in ingoldmels but that was years ago now,when u use to ask for one back then i rember a puzzeld stare.
but i do know now they do sell proper fishcakes but you have to ask for a yorkshire fishcake and the shops even say even tho it a crazy combo to eat this kind of fishcake is very popular.
marinaparkes 29-09-2005, 14:46 yeh i've been australia now for 33years and still have to make my own bloody fishcakes
muddycoffee 29-09-2005, 14:50 Originally posted by ptblade
that would be great - with something very sheffield in the background perhaps ??
a disused steel works or even the imposing bramall lane. A fishcake photo shoot in the hole in the road would have been just great but alas ...
All those things are now consigned to history now. Even bramhall lane is now a football ground having been cut in half 30 years ago!
*vanessa* 29-09-2005, 15:03 Not sure but either Stans, on mansfield road Intake or the chippy next to the post office at Intake, used to do Sheffield fishcakes, When we first moved here 7 years ago, it gave my hubby a shock, it wasn't what he was expecting!
In shropshire where I come from, "breadcakes" are either rolls or Baps.
we don't have gennels either !:D :D
Vanessa :banana:
RADISHES 29-09-2005, 22:37 Lived in Los Angeles California for thirty years.......born and bred at Firth Park....the Americans have no idea what a real fish cake should be.....neither do all the Brits I know....despite having two great pubs serving fish and chips in the area......
...so I make them myself......scallops...a single slice of potato......fish cake.....two slices of potato with cod in the middle.......
......the fish cakes tend to fall apart unless you stick a couple of wooden tooth picks through the whole thing...they're easy to pull out when it's cooked.
Does anyone have a good Sheffield batter recipe?.
Originally posted by muddycoffee
All those things are now consigned to history now. Even bramhall lane is now a football ground having been cut in half 30 years ago!
Where the hell is Bramhall Lane (you're not a sneaky southerner, are you ?):confused:
Used to get a good one on Handsworth Road, Triangle Fish Bar, put that between a breadcake (not a BARM cake) I think it was the best thing going on a Friday night.
My mum used to send me for one on Friday and put one in the over for my Dad for when he came back ome from Non-Pots (Effingham Road) or if a problem with buses or weather he would be in the Darnall Horty club.
shefflasfema 30-09-2005, 14:10 :gag:
I haven't got all day to search the vastness that is the web for a picture of a fishcake! So I hope you dont mind this one? I am afraid I found it hard to find just a boring old english fishcake that hasnt got added extras like salmon and anchovies etc...
Hope this is okay.
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/salmon-fishcakes,1042,RC.html
shefflasfema 30-09-2005, 14:15 Oh I also found this one too!!
He he he he he!!!
:thumbsup:
:heyhey:
http://www.cakeworkscentral.com/newsletters/cakes-n-more.htm
Dear Sheflasfema, Delia's is a bl..dy rissole and always will be. Read the complete thread and you MAY understand what is going on.
:loopy:
Those damn things couldn't fill you up unless you had about 1/2 dozen. Now, a PROPER fishcake is a totally different matter.
When I was a kid coming home from Upperthorpe baths we used to call at the chippe half way up Addy Street.
You could get a 6d (old money) 'special' which was either a portion of chips or a fishcake + dollop of mushy peas.
We all went for the fishcake special - they were huge (two slices of potato with fish in between)
Never had a piece of fish until I was into my teens - they were considered 'grown up.
If we had a spare penny we could have a pickled onion from the giant jar on the counter - as big as golf balls (at least if seemed so to a little kid)
Went to see Queen and Paul Rodgers at Hallam Arena in May, and couldnt wait to get a fishcake on the way back to my brothers where we were all staying for the night having
travelled up from deepest Worcestershire, stopped at the chippy on the way from the arena up to Manor Top, on the left hand side. Was sooooo looking forward to it and was so disappointed I nearly cried. What happened to the fishcakes with a proper slice of fish in the middle? This was mashed up tail end in the middle I think, and not very much of it. Sadly I cant come up to Sheffield again in the near future for a really really good fishcake, when I do next come up does anyone have any suggestions where to go for a really delicious one?
muddycoffee 04-10-2005, 20:59 Originally posted by davep
hell is Bramhall Lane
You're not kidding!
When there is a match the cops often shut it to traffic. :hihi:
Went to see Queen and Paul Rodgers at Hallam Arena in May, and couldnt wait to get a fishcake on the way back to my brothers where we were all staying for the night having
travelled up from deepest Worcestershire, stopped at the chippy on the way from the arena up to Manor Top, on the left hand side. Was sooooo looking forward to it and was so disappointed I nearly cried. What happened to the fishcakes with a proper slice of fish in the middle? This was mashed up tail end in the middle I think, and not very much of it. Sadly I cant come up to Sheffield again in the near future for a really really good fishcake, when I do next come up does anyone have any suggestions where to go for a really delicious one?
Sorry, at work at the moment, very busy and I just posted the same post twice. I do apologise to one and all
sheffieldcpl 04-10-2005, 21:15 so.................. wats a fishcke on a breadcake??? lol soz just stirring ps as anyone ever ad the peas as in chips n peas on a tray open. put in the tray 1st??? i did in glossop and had to get another try to turn em over why cant they be like us eh??
pattricia 04-10-2005, 21:40 Originally posted by Timbuck
Up here in the North East of England you can get both types..The small round bread crumb type is called "a fishcake" and the larger batter covered potato fish type is called "a pattie" (must be pronouced with a Geordie accent) I love fishcakes,wether in breadcrumbs or batter.The frozen ones seem to be in breadcrumbs,while the batter ones seem to be from fish & chip shops. I could just eat one now,with salt & vinegar on.!:thumbsup:
Originally posted by RADISHES
Lived in Los Angeles California for thirty years.......born and bred at Firth Park....the Americans have no idea what a real fish cake should be.....neither do all the Brits I know....despite having two great pubs serving fish and chips in the area......
...so I make them myself......scallops...a single slice of potato......fish cake.....two slices of potato with cod in the middle.......
......the fish cakes tend to fall apart unless you stick a couple of wooden tooth picks through the whole thing...they're easy to pull out when it's cooked.
Does anyone have a good Sheffield batter recipe?. hello , here is a recipe for batter for you ,ingredients 100g/4 oz approx( 4 tablespoons of plain flour ) 2 teaspoons of salt . 100ml / 4 fl oz malt vinegar . 75 ml /3 fl oz water . place the flour and salt in a bowl and mix make a well in centre then stir in the vinegar and water please note it may be necessary to add a little extra flour to make it a bit thicker , then mix well either by hand or quicker with a mixer . if making fishcakes place preferably partly cooked fish between two scollop potatoes then dip in flour all over and then dip into your batter carefully put in hot oil to cook ps you do not need to use toothpicks through them either . let me know how you get on with my recipe , good luck .
RADISHES 06-10-2005, 19:49 Thanks Tinker...I'll try that this weekend.
sauerkraut 06-10-2005, 21:11 Stretching my computer talents to the limit here but if this works you should see a fishcake picture here:
http://mk31.image.pbase.com/u12/orac/small/19933299.IMG_7187.jpg
If it's worked I'd like a favour in return, please. How do I get that link to appear in words of my own choosing - like "Sheffield fishcake picture" or whatever?!
Sorry sauerkraut but your link does'nt work but for a photo of a proper Sheffield fishcake the size of a whale click here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/wharncliffe/Rivelin021.jpg)
Regarding the favour in return:
Click on the http:// button above, insert your text, click ok, then insert the hyperlink in the box that appears.
sauerkraut 07-10-2005, 06:30 Strange, the link works for me! Shame if others can't get it because although it's a very small picture it does at least show the fishcake in cross-section.
And sorry, but I still don't get the linking bit - what http button, where? :help:
muddycoffee 07-10-2005, 07:32 Originally posted by pietro
proper Sheffield fishcake the size of a whale click here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/wharncliffe/Rivelin021.jpg)
Lovely !
Even though it is breakfast time and I have had 3 slices of toast that pic is making me have cravings!
sauerkraut, my mistake your link does work if I switch over to internet explorer (I'm using firefox).
HTTP:// button
Click on the post reply button to submit another thread and the http:// button can be found below the blue post reply button.
hope that makes sense.
Heres a screenshot.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/wharncliffe/21.jpg
Dj_Shadowman 07-10-2005, 08:21 The definition of a "proper" fishcake depends on where you are from.
Im derbyshire born & bred (dont hold that against me) and what you get there is what you lot call a "rissole"
I cant accept your version of a fishcake, tried loads of them but all I ever seem to get is 2 slices of spud with a tiny amount of fish inside - should be called a potato cake IMHO.
:D stands back awaiting the verbal abuse :D
I'm positive I've had PROPER fishcakes in Chesterfield many years ago, so they must travel over the border.
Perhaps we should start a WWRFAS
- world wide real fishcake appreciation society.:clap:
RADISHES 08-10-2005, 18:34 Thanks Tinker.....that batter worked out great on the Fishcake......but woeks fantastic on Scallops (single potato slice)...as tou get the full vinegar taste ,,,without pouring liquid vinegar all over the place,,,making the batter soggy.
Again....thanks,
Steve.l
Fish cakes! My God! Two slices of potato and a pennyworth of fish! You’ve got to be joking. For Sheffield ‘cuisine’ substitute ‘crap’. It’s what you were brought up with so I guess you’re fairly young and have no idea what a REAL fishcake looks like. The fishcakes that chip shops sell are designed to make a profit — a huge profit because the price of fish is so expensive. If you were an old-timer, like me, you’d know that in my day fish was cheap if you went to Sheffield’s fish market a couple of minutes before it closed. My grandmother, who made and sold REAL fishcakes in her corner shop (not a chippy) used to come home with a big bag of fish for sixpence! She had her own recipe, she sold to fishcakes to some local chippies but most of them were snapped up immediately from the shop which was on Woodbourne Road. I could give you the recipe and be guaranteed that you’d never go back to the two slices of potato again! Trouble is, they’d be costly, and anybody who thinks the present fishcakes are ‘cuisine’ isn’t worthy of having the recipe anyway! She also used to make mushy pea and onion fritters which you’ve probably never heard of. They DO come between two slices of potato, and they are absolutely fantastic. I can only remember one former chip shop that sold my grandmother’s fish cakes. In 1939 he was already near or past pensionable age and worked in front of a coal-fired range. As a ‘special’, my grandmother also made him salmon fish cakes which he’d sell within an hour of opening. His chippie was on Sharrow Vale Road, and it is still a chip shop today; albeit much more modern. I called there some years ago and thought to myself that the old man was still watching over it. The chips were fabulous, but what passes today for fish cakes — ugh! So, younger generation of Sheffield, if you want what you call ‘cuisine’ stick to bacon, egg and beans with a dollop of tomato sauce spread all over it. Fish cakes? Bah, humbug!
Albatross 25-01-2006, 10:47 I used to get a fishcake on a breadcake to eat walking home from the pub, and fish n chips for when I got in.
There was a chippy at Chappel St Leonards (Tony's Chippy), down Trunch Lane that did Sheffield fishcakes. They came out of the frier about 7pm and if you weren't there for 7 you would not get one as there was always a queue for em.Here's a question for you all
Why do fish and chips always taste better out of the paper when you're walking down the sea front?
salt n battered on london road make the best fish cakes and rissoles in sheffield
staincliffe 05-02-2008, 12:00 cakes in Bradford , no cod just haddock , in Keighley or Halifax they are sandwiches or scones . no cod in west yorkshire , plain old haddock i used to get a cake and chips at a fish shop in Stannington Road 50 years ago whilst delivering in Sheffield , beautiful with cheese sandwiches , oh halcyon days .
hillsbro 05-02-2008, 15:18 I'm positive I've had PROPER fishcakes in Chesterfield many years ago, so they must travel over the border.
Perhaps we should start a WWRFAS
- world wide real fishcake appreciation society.
I quite agree, but in my experience all the society's members would either be Sheffield tykes or Lincolnshire yeller-bellies (though in fact the latter would form a sub-group, the "fritter appreciation society". This is because here in North Lincs. you can sometimes get a proper fishcake - but you have to ask for a "fritter". If you ask for a fishcake you get a rissole. Confusing, innit? :rolleyes:
Gingerbarf 05-02-2008, 15:54 Have finally talked our local chippy on the Isle of Wight to start making PROPER fishcakes its great.
having a mate that works in a chip shop can i just tell ya the "fish" in the middle is heads,including the eyes and tails...i havn't touched one since i found this out:(
Gross, you are kiddin, right? Our 'not so local' chippy is spot on & folk travel from miles around to get decent stuff. In Skeg Vegas, they sell 'Yorkshire Cakes' (fish sandwich) or fishcakes (rissoles), Gonna have to start a thread on what is/is not a breadcake!!!!!!!! I do not want a teacake wi fish n chips thank ya very much :)
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