View Full Version : New Casinos - Are Any Heading To Sheffield?


Dug
16-11-2004, 10:21
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,11026,1352275,00.html

Looks like there will only be eight casinos initially. I wonder if one will be located in Sheffield?

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:33
Sheffield united have just requested planning permission for a very large one built onto the back of the south stand, it has the support of the local residents and some of the council, the only other place in sheffield is near the don valley stadium, there is plans for one there but i don;'t belive there as advanced yet.

Dug
16-11-2004, 10:49
There are also plans for a third poposal near Meadowhall.

Will it be the Government who decides where to locate the casinos or the actual operators themselves?

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:51
I think the goverment will decide on the BIG one's like the one's in vegas but its down to the council to grant permission for the smaller one's.

nick2
16-11-2004, 10:54
I hope we get a big one, with restaurants, bars, a cinema and somewhere for "shows" etc.
It will be somewhere different to go out for the night.

Ned Ludd
16-11-2004, 10:55
There are 3 large ones competing for one "place" in Sheffield and also may have to compete against Leeds as well (if Yorkshire was to have only one Supercasino)

Dug
16-11-2004, 11:01
I heard that one will be in London and one in Glasgow. Then a couple of seaside resorts, leaving the rest to be situated in Urban regions.

Ned Ludd
16-11-2004, 11:23
Tessa Jowell will announce Today that there will only be 8 Supercasinos built. (Therefore expect the one for this region to be built in Leeds)

Greybeard
16-11-2004, 12:20
Dunno why the govt. don't build and run these casinos, that way all the profits would go back to the tax-payer instead of being siphoned of to American billionaires, and it would be a way of re-deploying all those thousands of civil servants Gordon Brown is going to make redundant.

You only have to look at the extortionate levels of duty on tobacco, booze and petrol to appreciate the huge amounts of revenue to be gained from our other vices - why exclude gambling ?

State run brothels would also pay pretty well too, and remove all the dangers of predatory pimps and prowling psychopaths that prostitutes are presently subject to.

Sorry about that last sentence...my keyboard seems to be having a 'p' day :D

Lickszz
17-11-2004, 01:05
Originally posted by Ned Ludd
Tessa Jowell will announce Today that there will only be 8 Supercasinos built. (Therefore expect the one for this region to be built in Leeds)

This would coincide with what I have read which suggests Sheffield isn't on the shortlist for a Super Casino.

nick2
17-11-2004, 08:37
Originally posted by Lickszz
Sheffield isn't on the shortlist for a Super Casino.

Damn, we lose out again.

Yodameister
17-11-2004, 09:02
Its quite right that these Casinos should be very limited in number (if we have to have them at all) and at a very restricted number of sites.

We are always lectured to by this government about how wonderful the US is and how backward and negative we are compared to them, but even they only have these huge Casinos in 1 or 2 states.

Abdul
17-11-2004, 11:47
Originally posted by Ned Ludd
Tessa Jowell will announce Today that there will only be 8 Supercasinos built. (Therefore expect the one for this region to be built in Leeds)

I know that Sheffield City Council are desperately trying to emulate Leeds, but building a Super Casino here is really not the best way forward.

Yodameister
17-11-2004, 12:08
Originally posted by Abdul
I know that Sheffield City Council are desperately trying to emulate Leeds, but building a Super Casino here is really not the best way forward.

Tell me about it, if Leeds had a nuclear waste dump Sheffield would want one too.

nick2
17-11-2004, 12:34
Originally posted by Abdul
I know that Sheffield City Council are desperately trying to emulate Leeds, but building a Super Casino here is really not the best way forward.

I think it is, it will be something we have and they don't, something to make people come here instead of going to Leeds.

Abdul
17-11-2004, 12:50
Originally posted by nick2
I think it is, it will be something we have and they don't, something to make people come here instead of going to Leeds.

Nick, have you ever been to Leeds?

There are already enough casinos in Leeds for any mere mortal. There's really no need for a Yorkshire super casino at all.

Can't Sheffield capitalise on its reputation as a friendly city, instead of desperately begging for any crumbs thrown their way from our Yorkshire rival?

nick2
17-11-2004, 15:32
Originally posted by Abdul
Nick, have you ever been to Leeds?

There are already enough casinos in Leeds for any mere mortal. There's really no need for a Yorkshire super casino at all.

Can't Sheffield capitalise on its reputation as a friendly city, instead of desperately begging for any crumbs thrown their way from our Yorkshire rival?

But I don't want to go to Leeds, I want a big casino in Sheffield.

Sheffields reputation as a friendy (though somewhat backward) city might be nice, but it doesn't pull customers in to spend the night (and all their money) here, attractions do that.
If we want people to come here instead of going to Leeds we have to offer more, not less.

pberry
17-11-2004, 16:00
I've heard the Sheffield Casino (like we need a third one) would be built on the site of the Don Valley Bowl (East End Park) between iceSheffield, the Arena, and the tram tracks.

Bedhead
14-12-2004, 08:50
CASINO OFFERS JOB BOOST IN SHEFFIELD (Planning magazine 10 December)

Local people and long term unemployed will be first in line for jobs if a £180 million casino is given the go ahead.

Sheff city council is considering an application by US firm MGM Mirage and the Bristish Land Company last week to build a casino at Meadowhall Shopping Centre.

41,895msq - mixed use development, 1,250 slot machines, 50 gaming tables, a poker room, bingo hall along with resturants, a 200-room hotel and an entertanment lounge that could hold sporting and commercvial events or concerts.

creation of 1500 jobs permanent jobs and 1500 construction and spin off jobs

Personally i'd consider this a bad move taking people away from the city centre and is less sustainably located although admittedly it's hardly THAT comparable to anywhere at present ....

would prefer the mooted Bramall Lane scheme

Yodameister
14-12-2004, 12:56
But where is the money coming from to pay for all these jobs?

Fundamentally its coming from people gambling, some of whom can't really afford it, some of whom are addicted to gambling.

Okay I admit there may well be people coming in from outside Sheffield, so it adds money to the local economy, but even so it makes me feel slightly uneasy.

Also consider the extra tax that the government will rake in, you have to consider what their motives are for wanting to bring these super casions in.

scottf
14-12-2004, 13:35
Originally posted by Yodameister
Fundamentally its coming from people gambling, some of whom can't really afford it, some of whom are addicted to gambling.

Far more people are addicted to drinking and smoking that are far worse for your body yet you can't ban these can you?

It can only be a good thing that these are being built if properly controlled and regulated- if people want to get themselves into debt then thats there problem at the end of the day- its upto them to have some self control!!!

IF (and its a big if) sheffield gets a casino i don't think it should be out at meadowhall- i think it should be in the city centre to try and inect some life back into this city!!!

NatalieSheff
14-12-2004, 13:51
Originally posted by Bedhead

Local people and long term unemployed will be first in line for jobs if a £180 million casino is given the go ahead.

yeah lets give people who have been on dole years a job in a casino......mmmmm

Yodameister
14-12-2004, 13:58
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Far more people are addicted to drinking and smoking that are far worse for your body yet you can't ban these can you?

It can only be a good thing that these are being built if properly controlled and regulated- if people want to get themselves into debt then thats there problem at the end of the day- its upto them to have some self control!!!

IF (and its a big if) sheffield gets a casino i don't think it should be out at meadowhall- i think it should be in the city centre to try and inect some life back into this city!!!

I don't quite get your comparison, saying that you can't ban smoking or drinking, because Super Casinos have previously not been allowed, it is not a question of baning them, but just not taking the positive step to allow them.

Also you seem to assume that because I am questioning the necessity and motivation for having casinos that I want a blanket ban - but not everyone wants to ban everything they don't like. For example I don't like fox hunting but I think the bill to pass a ban is anti libertarian and hypocritical.

Glennis
06-04-2006, 14:12
Does anyone think this super casino will be good for Sheffield. I have my doubts.

nick2
06-04-2006, 14:14
Does anyone think this super casino will be good for Sheffield. I have my doubts.

Not as good as an IKEA.

Glennis
06-04-2006, 14:22
Not as good as an IKEA.

Quite right, I could do with some more book shelves.

nick2
06-04-2006, 15:33
Quite right, I could do with some more book shelves.

I need a new Ergenflugen

Rob_1
06-04-2006, 18:24
Its quite right that these Casinos should be very limited in number (if we have to have them at all) and at a very restricted number of sites.

We are always lectured to by this government about how wonderful the US is and how backward and negative we are compared to them, but even they only have these huge Casinos in 1 or 2 states.

Why is it right that they should be very limited in number? What's the difference between an adult spending their money in a clothes shop or a casino? No-one will be frogmarched in and made to spend money.

Rob_1
06-04-2006, 18:27
But where is the money coming from to pay for all these jobs?

Fundamentally its coming from people gambling, some of whom can't really afford it, some of whom are addicted to gambling.

Okay I admit there may well be people coming in from outside Sheffield, so it adds money to the local economy, but even so it makes me feel slightly uneasy.

Also consider the extra tax that the government will rake in, you have to consider what their motives are for wanting to bring these super casions in.

If people can't really afford it they shouldn't spend it. Adults have the right to spend what they want when they want, we don't need 'protecting' from these evil places of sin by the government.If they are addicted to gambling there are a million other places they will go, including the biggest casino of all, the internet.

I would love a huge casino with a showroom, nice restaurants, hotel etc, Sheffield is rubbish for special nights out at the moment.

Whatif wewin
06-04-2006, 18:51
Why can't any millionaire, providing they get the appropriate local planning permission simply build a Super casino were ever they and the locals want?

tetley
06-04-2006, 19:01
NAPOLEONS CASINOS are the best there is 1 in leeds,bradford,hillsborough,ecclesal rd,london and hull.