View Full Version : Should we tattoo offenders?
saxon76tr 15-11-2004, 09:37 We have all sorts of low life walking around our towns and villages.
Why should we not know who they are?.
would you agree that it would make sense to tattoo a capital "C" on the foreheads of everyone who has been sentenced for burglary or mugging people?. Also drug addicts. Forget do-gooders.
have you been watching pirates of the caribbean?
Don't be silly, by doing that you would be giving them a disadvantage for the rest of there lives, what about people that have learned there lesson and never re-offend?
Most are already tattooed.
Other than that I imagine you're just posting for a response. I hope that sometime in the future you are held down by a bunch of lunatics and they tattoo a large 'C' on your head.
It'll probably stand for something different, though.
Apart from the fact that it's a silly idea, tattooing costs quite a bit of money that could be spent helping people back into work and keeping them out of trouble when they come out of prison.
saxon76tr 15-11-2004, 09:52 I asked what you thought about the idea.
thats all :heyhey:
NatalieSheff 15-11-2004, 11:34 dont some offenders get tagged for a bit? ankle things?
saxon76tr 15-11-2004, 11:39 Some offenders do get "Tagged" Nic, but you cannot see that tag when they are walking towards you.
NatalieSheff 15-11-2004, 11:42 unless they put a bell on it and flashy lights!!
Phanerothyme 15-11-2004, 12:05 I would go one step further and tattoo everyone.
Each person would be tattooed at a suitable age with 100 small neat checkboxes on their forehead.
Offenders would have these checkboxes filled in, from one to 99 depending on the severity of their crime.
Anyone who gets all their checkboxes filled may consider themselves proscribed and they may be murdered with impunity by forum vigilantes.
Also the check boxes could be filled in with different colours to denote different types of crime red-violent crime blue-sexual crime purple-violent sexual crime, black-murder, green - property crime, orange for everything else. That way you could tell the difference between a serial shoplifter and a murdering rapist.
Perhaps they could trial this scheme in High Green ?
Phanerothyme 15-11-2004, 17:35 mod edit
pruned out the phatic, left the entropic, pray continue.
DaBouncer 15-11-2004, 17:46 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
mod edit
pruned out the phatic, left the entropic, pray continue.
Phan I had to search Dictionary.com to find the meaning of those words and I'm STILL unsure what they actually mean or where they fit in with this thread.
Speak ENGLISH (i.e. Yorkshire English) when you're posting man :P
Phanerothyme 15-11-2004, 17:55 the phatic: all those meaningless things we say to one another to make friends or enemies, i.e what we say isn't important so much as the atmosphere we create by saying it.
"Hi, how are you, nice weather etc" is phatic comms
entropic comms is communication with very little excess, most of the content being information and very little being phatic. In reality, very entropic communication is hard to decipher eg: "3.0GHz wintel HT, 512MB RAM,160GB SATA HD" to describe a computer.
Back to tatooing offenders.
Does this idea remind anyone of other tatooing policies from recent european history?
DaBouncer 15-11-2004, 18:07 That was the first thought that sprang to my mind Phan!
Originally posted by saxon76tr
We have all sorts of low life walking around our towns and villages.
Why should we not know who they are?.
would you agree that it would make sense to tattoo a capital "C" on the foreheads of everyone who has been sentenced for burglary or mugging people?. Also drug addicts. Forget do-gooders.
errr no.
Put the Express down mate and walk away slowly.
DaBouncer 15-11-2004, 19:15 Originally posted by mat1978
errr no.
Put the Express down mate and walk away slowly.
psml :hihi: :lol:
mr.blaze 15-11-2004, 19:22 A large amount of people in Jails tattoo themselves anyway. Different jails have different tats indicating which one they have spent time in. So I've heard anyway :R
As for making them all have tattoo's thats just stupid lol, it would hinder them for the rest of their lives.
evildrneil 15-11-2004, 19:35 And just how long before such a tattoo become an 'underworld status symbol'???
thought hitler tried that with the jews?
its a bit old hat now-a-days isnt it, anway I happen to like tattoos and have 5 of them myself to me they are an art-form not a way of degrading people
Originally posted by evildrneil
And just how long before such a tattoo become an 'underworld status symbol'???
There are already a few choice tattooed status symbols, such as borstal dots/spots on knuckles, and everyone's favourite acronym... 'A C A B'
Here's an idea... Why don't the people at the job centre hide all the available jobs under a silver covering on the pieces of card, then charge thieving dole-scum a pound to look at the cards, which they then scratch off with the edge of a pound coin, revealing that they've "won" a job interview.
Unemployment figures would plummet
mr.blaze 15-11-2004, 20:51 In China/Japan Tattoo's are a symbol that your part of the Mafia lol.
Originally posted by Scottandandy
have you been watching pirates of the caribbean?
Don't be silly, by doing that you would be giving them a disadvantage for the rest of there lives, what about people that have learned there lesson and never re-offend? laser treatment if you dont commit an offence in say 5 years perhaps
Originally posted by J-Blaze
In China/Japan Tattoo's are a symbol that your part of the Mafia lol.
But in New Zealand they are a symbol of your standing in Maori society, the more you have the more "upper class" you are.
NatalieSheff 16-11-2004, 10:42 my dog's got a tattoo in her ear!
maybe we could chip offenders, so police can track em forever esp sex offenders etc..
evildrneil 16-11-2004, 10:53 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
I would go one step further and tattoo everyone.
Each person would be tattooed at a suitable age with 100 small neat checkboxes on their forehead.
Offenders would have these checkboxes filled in, from one to 99 depending on the severity of their crime.
Anyone who gets all their checkboxes filled may consider themselves proscribed and they may be murdered with impunity by forum vigilantes.
Also the check boxes could be filled in with different colours to denote different types of crime red-violent crime blue-sexual crime purple-violent sexual crime, black-murder, green - property crime, orange for everything else. That way you could tell the difference between a serial shoplifter and a murdering rapist.
Nice idea - though perhaps concentric circles might be better than the check boxes?
Ned Ludd 16-11-2004, 11:02 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
I would go one step further and tattoo everyone.
Each person would be tattooed at a suitable age with 100 small neat checkboxes on their forehead.
Offenders would have these checkboxes filled in, from one to 99 depending on the severity of their crime.
Anyone who gets all their checkboxes filled may consider themselves proscribed and they may be murdered with impunity by forum vigilantes...........etc etc etc
I hope Blunkett's not got anyone reading this out to him:o :hihi::hihi:
WallBuilder 16-11-2004, 11:09 People or at least some people get really upset at the idea of having to carry an I.D. card so can just imagine the uproar from the civil liberties types if this idea was ever to be taken seriously.
Still think my idea of putting the little thugs in stocks is better!!
Phanerothyme 16-11-2004, 11:30 alternatively you could use electronic tags fitted with internal tazers, remotely operable by anyone shouting a keyword or using a keyfob or something.
That way if a convicted assailant attacked you, you could just shout "attack" or "help" or whatever and the tag would "taze" the wearer, and then you could go about your lawful business, beating the living snot out of him. And of course, if at any time you felt threatened you could just activate your 'Stakeholder Citizen' Keyfob®, and anyone with a violent conviction within 100 yards drops to the ground twitching.
evildrneil 16-11-2004, 11:50 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
alternatively you could use electronic tags fitted with internal tazers, remotely operable by anyone shouting a keyword or using a keyfob or something.
That way if a convicted assailant attacked you, you could just shout "attack" or "help" or whatever and the tag would "taze" the wearer, and then you could go about your lawful business, beating the living snot out of him. And of course, if at any time you felt threatened you could just activate your 'Stakeholder Citizen' Keyfob®, and anyone with a violent conviction within 100 yards drops to the ground twitching.
The really worrying thing is I'm betting there are some people who would read this and nod in agreement at its reasonable, middle of the road approach!
Phanerothyme 16-11-2004, 14:47 Originally posted by evildrneil
The really worrying thing is I'm betting there are some people who would read this and nod in agreement at its reasonable, middle of the road approach!
Well, I can think of some more extreme methods of divisive social engineering if you like, as I am currently in the middle of my Divisive Social Engineering correspondence course.
This month we're doing "insane alternatives to prison".
One suggestion is to modify prisoner food. Contained within all food is a harmless but cumulative enzyme that causes the ingestor to stink like polecat at all times. The longer the offender stays in prison, the more powerful the stink. After leaving prison, the smell gradually wears off after a few years, depending on how much there was in the first place.
A less invasive procedure is to scent mark offenders.
This has the added benefit of getting offenders to self ghettoize.
Unfortunately hand amputation is out of the question as this is deemed "barbaric" which seems a little contradictory, given that other, equally visible and less ambiguous permanent marking methods that have been suggested (i.e tattoos).
Angeldevine 24-01-2005, 14:33 I think it would be a lot nicer in the world if the ignorant people were given a big sign to walk around with. You got on saxon76tr?
Meeeeoooooow Angel, you have got the claws out. Go on scratch the buggas eyes out :heyhey:
The really worrying thing is I'm betting there are some people who would read this and nod in agreement at its reasonable, middle of the road approach!
I was quite enjoying chuckling away at Phan's various ideas until you pointed that out - scary but I suspect you're probably right.
Internal tazers idea = my personal favourite but the food idea comes a close second :hihi:
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