Further to the unfortunate thread posted elsewhere regarding the guy who was attacked on Ecclesall Road, I think it's time to find out:-

* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?

For my part, I think Sheffield feels quite safe although less so than it did. But I probably feel safe simply because I'm familiar with my surroundings. How do students and visitors feel?

I'd sooner go places in daylight than at night, but as the incident mentioned elsewhere proves, that doesn't make it less unlikely that you might get attacked! There should be a huge police effort to patrol the streets - city and suburbs - on foot and the people of Sheffield should feel safe to go where they want, when they want.

I'd appreciate your comments folks.

*No chance of me walking round Pitsmoor, Wicker, Page Hall day or night.

*I feel quite safe but then I dont go round the common rough areas.

*You can be attacked anywhere tho, the area isnt the only problem its the standard of people who live in them.

*There should be more police on the beat, cos as mentioned in the other thread, this poor guy felt unable to defend himself because we dont know what people are carrying with them.

*And on my own little rant :rant: I wish all the asylum seekers would go back to where they came from, this country has enough problems with no jobs and poor housing for its own citizens without us having to give homes away to foreigners, they are also the rudest people ever begging off people left right and center. And if you dont give them something they hurl abuse at you. I suspect these are also the people who attack others. We are a weak country when it comes to this.

As a Bus Driver i feel very unsafe at night.
Why is it the only time you see the police on the beat is in the daytime and never at night? The same goes for the community safety wardens they are never to be seen at night.

At work there is a new policy regarding Bus Windows being smashed,the police will now only attend if the driver or Passenger is injured, so much for pro active policing. I bet if the police were having a brick thrown through the windscreen they would soon be patroling the estates.

They bang on about speeding motorists causing Death and Injury what about bricks through windows...hardly safe but it seams to be a big problem that is ignored. Thts my personal gripe, but when iam not at work I do feel quite safe when out and about.

I feel pretty safe myself as I tend to move about mainly during the daytime but worry for my kids when they're out.
So far one of my sons has been attacked on his way home from a pub in Hillsborough and my daughter was offered a lift on the way to school one morning by a stranger - both incidents were reported.

I always feel safe in Sheffield in the daytime, in any area.
At night I feel a bit more on-guard, but not as much as I would if I were in Leeds, Manchester or London.
Like you said, I think a lot of how I feel is having familiar surroundings and knowing where to avoid.
As for the police, I only ever see them on match days.

Originally posted by Illaria


*And on my own little rant :rant: I wish all the asylum seekers would go back to where they came from, this country has enough problems with no jobs and poor housing for its own citizens without us having to give homes away to foreigners, they are also the rudest people ever begging off people left right and center. And if you dont give them something they hurl abuse at you. I suspect these are also the people who attack others. We are a weak country when it comes to this. [/B]

I think you will find that there are plenty of jobs in this country it is some of the lazy british people who do not want to work.Who do you think makes all your Ready meals in the factory's,who looks after the elderly in the care homes, who keeps the Hospitals Clean...ish!.who keeps the catering trade ticking over? The answer is alot of people from abroad.
And as for poor housing i do not think you can compare our housing to some from the 3rd world.Also i think that it is a stupid statement to blame all the attacts on Aslam seekers.

Out of interest Illaria when was the last time you walked down the Wicker or even drove through it? You live in Mosborough ffs and your scared of walking down the Wicker! And from experience, most of the people begging and being abusive are white british males with a can of special brew in one hand..

as an ex-student i only ever went out during the week or straight to a club on fridays. last friday i went round town and couldn't believe all the police about. something had happened on a bus outside Virgin and they'd blocked off the road. i then saw police walking about down division street and although i should have felt safe in the presence the fact that they were there made me worried!
no-where is 100% safe, anything can happen at anytime. the best thing to do is never walk alone at night and just be on your guard.
i did a self defence class a couple of years ago and it made me feel a lot more confident.

Originally posted by Ousetunes

* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?


- Very safe.

- Don't avoid anywhere, probably out of principal

- For my benefit, no. For others people benefit, maybe.

- More safe.. Considering I was a skinny little 14 year old 5 year ago :)

Originally posted by Illaria
*No chance of me walking round Pitsmoor, Wicker, Page Hall day or night.

For months ago when I was a wee bit drunk, came out of Kingdom and couldn't get a taxi. I walked from Kingdom, through the wicker, pitsmoor, Page Hall and Firth Park on my own to get home. Not a good idea.. but I wasn't too phased at the time :|

I never said that some of the people out of work werent white british and im not saying that all black, indian etc people should leave, most of them were born here so are british, but cant the government help its own people before we start giving away much needed funds to others?

And as for my not wanting to walk around the Wicker, I do believe this thread asked if there were any places we avoided, am I not allowed to mention where I don't want to walk?????

You cant really compare Mosborough to the Wicker now can you. And when did I say I was scared?????? I mentioned it as a place I do not want to go there are numerous reasons.

I merely aired my opinion I havent asked anyone to agree or conform to my view, or are we going to become oppresive and start to tell people what they can and can not post on here with relevance to freedom of speech????????

Originally posted by Illaria
they are also the rudest people ever begging off people left right and center. And if you dont give them something they hurl abuse at you.

Where are these people ?
I never encounter them.

Originally posted by Ousetunes


* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?


* Safer that I did a few years back, Being attacked makes you realise that you can't fear people all the time, you just have to get on with it.

* Obviously safer in numbers but there are places you don't walk around on your own (use of common sense comes into play here)

* Yes maybe but I think the Police Force is stretched at times, no one person can be everywhere at the exact time you may need them.

* As explained above, yes I do. Before moving I lived in Parson Cross for 13 years, in that time I didn't have one spot of bother, its not as bad as people make it out to be.

Overall I feel safe, its just some stories you hear or read about can play on your mind

DeeJ :)

U know what- i feel totally safe in sheffield, yes there are area's that can be dangerous- everyone knows where these are and should avoid them but i have walked round sheff at stupid o'clock in the morning and never felt threatened. Yes you do get nutters but your no more likely to get attacked in sheff as you are in other cities.

I regularly walk around our suburbs at 3, 4 or 5 in the moirning ****** of me head, and even then I feel safe...
Obviously if your wearing your mobile around your neck with huge SONY ERICSON logos all over it then yeah, but then you're a fool...

all the freaks come out at night esp in town. people who havent even been clubbin but are just wandering about. my friend got mugged near safeway/underground eccles rd but we always walk in groups now. Most areas are scary at night. Even Fulwood/Dore etc... wasnt that where the Yorkshire Ripper was found?

I currently work on Exchange Street and feel OK there - met a friend on the Wicker ten days ago in the evening and although waiting next to what appeared to be a needle exchange sort of place (Thanks Nad, nice meeting point...:) ) felt OK.

I'd probably steer clear of Pitsmoor at any time of day and night, but mostly I feel quite safe in Sheffield.

Having said that, it's all a cause of being aware of where you are, what's happening around you and when you're there.

I worked for a couple of years in Leeds and found myself beng much warier there in the City Centre. I worked on Lovell Park Road, just behind the Merrion Centre, on the edge of Little London. That area was a bit dodgy, as was the area around the Bus Station in Leeds and down towards the Corn Exchange.

Now London - had a lot of business meetings in the Soho area of London (Dean Street, Carnaby Street) and had few problems there at any time of day or night. Brixton - OK around the High Street / Atlantic Road / Coldharbour Lane area but once in to the back streets, different story. Just have to watch where you go, and get some local knowledge.

Joe

Originally posted by Ousetunes
* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?

*Safe enough I guess, I'm not much of a fighter but I can run fast

*Definately pitsmoor and manor top

*There's enough I reckon, having said that I've never been in an incident that requires the police....

*Five years ago I was 12, barely went out in Sheffield so can't really compare...

Originally posted by Ousetunes
* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?

* Very safe most of the time.

* There isn't a place I'd avoid in the day, some that i might not really want to walk though at night... although I have walked through some 'rough' places at night without trouble.

* There should be more police, i don't think that walking a beat does that much good, how about doing regular patrols in cars?

* I feel much safer than I did five years ago, I'm no longer in the group of people who are most likely to get attacked ( 18 - 25 year old white males).

Although i don't live in Sheffield i think as long as you use your common sense and don't intentionally put yourself in trouble then that's all you can do.If it's going to happen then it will and being scared to live your life is no answer.

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
Even Fulwood/Dore etc... wasnt that where the Yorkshire Ripper was found?

No.

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
Even Fulwood/Dore etc... wasnt that where the Yorkshire Ripper was found?

Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill... I believe.

Originally posted by sarah_d
Although i don't live in Sheffield i think as long as you use your common sense and don't intentionally put yourself in trouble then that's all you can do.If it's going to happen then it will and being scared to live your life is no answer.

Yes, its all about common sense and summing up a situation. Life is not as simple as saying, if you go here you will be ok, if you go there you are likely to get into trouble.

I've been in Sheffield for nearly 10 years, I hardly ever feel threatened or scared. I have been mugged once, and that did make me feel uneasy for a week or so.

But generally Sheffield is a pretty safe place I think.

Originally posted by Snook
Melbourne Avenue, Broomhill... I believe.
the same ish area!

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
the same ish area!

In a 'not-really' kind of way.

i kinda live on the basis of `it wont happen to me'

but any major city late at night on your own is scary, ive been alone and early morning in leeds, birmingham, london and sheffield and they were all scary. every1 seems to be foreign when it gets late? lol how odd.

i guess it depends how easy you scare

Originally posted by t020
In a 'not-really' kind of way.
its that end of town! grrr hehe!

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
its that end of town! grrr hehe!

Give or take 3 miles for Fulwood, 4 - 5 for Dore (in completely different directions too).;)

PS. How on EARTH have you managed to clock up over 35 posts a day?! :o :o

Originally posted by t020
Give or take 3 miles for Fulwood, 4 - 5 for Dore (in completely different directions too).;)

PS. How on EARTH have you managed to clock up over 35 posts a day?! :o :o

dear god Nat! Is that a record???? Thats about 10 times my average!

Originally posted by Lee1979
as an ex-student i only ever went out during the week or straight to a club on fridays. last friday i went round town and couldn't believe all the police about. something had happened on a bus outside Virgin and they'd blocked off the road. i then saw police walking about down division street and although i should have felt safe in the presence the fact that they were there made me worried!
no-where is 100% safe, anything can happen at anytime. the best thing to do is never walk alone at night and just be on your guard.
i did a self defence class a couple of years ago and it made me feel a lot more confident.

I'm always slightly disturbed by comments like that regarding self defence classes.

The only thing someone can teach you in a single class session is how to run away really quickly.
I've trained for 11 years now, nearly 9 years in my current martial art, and given the option by best form of self defence is being faster than the other guy.
I've made the comment before regarding the martial art that i teach that the first 6 months actually puts you in more danger, as you probably think that you can defend yourself and are more likely to try...

Of course having confidence is very important, victims are normally the people who look like them (if you see what i mean).

* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

fairly safe. I'm a big lad but there does seem to be more and more nutters around the streets. I do not feel safe at all in town on a Saturday. Loads of drunk, violent idiots....

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

several areas I'd avoid at night (Burngreave, Manor top, Pitsmoor etc)
I'd rather not be there in the day neither...

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

yes, yes, yes. Town is much nicer when police on street corners. people decide not to start fighting on the street when this happenes. And Sapr seems to be idiot central.

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?

less safe really. I suspect that is society in general though..

and also I lived in hull for 3 years at Uni.

It is a lot more ropey than Sheffield. Had several knives pulled on me and people kicking off. However it was usually East 17 lookalikes of between 12 and 16 and just ended up laughing at them till they went away.

several friends slashed-up by groups of Blacks orAsians just walking down the street.

Went to dodgy local nights and never had any trouble. Main trouble at student nights.

Much nicer here than Hull and much safer....

Originally posted by robbie
and also I lived in hull for 3 years at Uni.

It is a lot more ropey than Sheffield. Had several knives pulled on me and people kicking off. However it was usually East 17 lookalikes of between 12 and 16 and just ended up laughing at them till they went away.

several friends slashed-up by groups of Blacks orAsians just walking down the street.

Went to dodgy local nights and never had any trouble. Main trouble at student nights.

Much nicer here than Hull and much safer....

I want to go to Hull uni, what is the uni itself like and what did you study?

Originally posted by Illaria
I never said that some of the people out of work werent white british and im not saying that all black, indian etc people should leave, most of them were born here so are british, but cant the government help its own people before we start giving away much needed funds to others?

Hit the history books. It's impossible to say if someone is British or not - our country has a long (and proud, IMHO) history of acceptance and a varied ethnic make up.

Our welfare state helps those who need it, rather than judging who 'deserves' it. I think that's great.

I merely aired my opinion I havent asked anyone to agree or conform to my view, or are we going to become oppresive and start to tell people what they can and can not post on here with relevance to freedom of speech????????

No, but we might criticise your views for being ill informed and out of touch.

I feel extremely safe in Sheffield, much more so than the village I grew up in (only 4,000 people).

Originally posted by ianmitchell
I want to go to Hull uni, what is the uni itself like and what did you study?

I was at Humberside (now Deceased) and studied Social Policy and Politics. Hull is a good uni and its very good for students. Very good in Law, politcis, economics and business.

Hmm, didn't see this debate happening and its a long way of june 04, but anyways....Illaria; just a question;

Saudi Arabia, Abu Dubia, Kuwait....all these three and other rich arab countries are filled with white, british people that get paid a helluva a lot more in uk but we don't ask them to leave, nor do we say anything if jobs are scarce.

Way I see it, and many in our countries when many of jobs taken by white, british trained pilots, or engineers, builders, doctors, nurses, is "they deserved it cause they got off their butt and stopped moaning and did more than others might have done. They left their country, sacrificed to build a future for themselves and family."

And yeah, some, a few have a hard time cause it don't work out but we accomadate them, we find them homes, even with our familes cause we see dreams in their eyes and the sacrifice they made and wont be right to judge them cause we know jack about their circumstances. We ain't ignorant to say 'go back home.' What home, the world belongs to nobody but to he or she that gambles, works hard and gets up when life kicks yah in teeth to make it happen. Even england don't belongh to brits, as they came from where? We're all bloody immigrants that come from somewhere.

Sheffield is an awesome place, with awesome people although through time I seen it change and we got some bad apples but still the many good people in Sheffield I bump into and know overwieghs the bad. It ain't safe anywhere if you don't keep a look out and step out too late. It's same everywhere but people in sheffield are people myself and many Yemeni's like me have fallen in love with. Easy to get along and just, well, awesome man! I feel safe, yeah but...I keep my eyes and instints open and ready, as one should.

Originally posted by theHook
Hmm, didn't see this debate happening and its a long way of june 04, but anyways....Illaria; just a question;

Saudi Arabia, Abu Dubia, Kuwait....all these three and other rich arab countries are filled with white, british people that get paid a helluva a lot more in uk but we don't ask them to leave, nor do we say anything if jobs are scarce.

Way I see it, and many in our countries when many of jobs taken by white, british trained pilots, or engineers, builders, doctors, nurses, is "they deserved it cause they got off their butt and stopped moaning and did more than others might have done. They left their country, sacrificed to build a future for themselves and family."

And yeah, some, a few have a hard time cause it don't work out but we accomadate them, we find them homes, even with our familes cause we see dreams in their eyes and the sacrifice they made and wont be right to judge them cause we know jack about their circumstances. We ain't ignorant to say 'go back home.' What home, the world belongs to nobody but to he or she that gambles, works hard and gets up when life kicks yah in teeth to make it happen. Even england don't belongh to brits, as they came from where? We're all bloody immigrants that come from somewhere.

Sheffield is an awesome place, with awesome people although through time I seen it change and we got some bad apples but still the many good people in Sheffield I bump into and know overwieghs the bad. It ain't safe anywhere if you don't keep a look out and step out too late. It's same everywhere but people in sheffield are people myself and many Yemeni's like me have fallen in love with. Easy to get along and just, well, awesome man! I feel safe, yeah but...I keep my eyes and instints open and ready, as one should.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by theHook
[B]Hmm, didn't see this debate happening and its a long way of june 04, but anyways....Illaria; just a question;

Saudi Arabia, Abu Dubia, Kuwait....all these three and other rich arab countries are filled with white, british people that get paid a helluva a lot more in uk but we don't ask them to leave, nor do we say anything if jobs are scarce.

Way I see it, and many in our countries when many of jobs taken by white, british trained pilots, or engineers, builders, doctors, nurses, is "they deserved it cause they got off their butt and stopped moaning and did more than others might have done. They left their country, sacrificed to build a future for themselves and family."

And yeah, some, a few have a hard time cause it don't work out but we accomadate them, we find them homes, even with our familes cause we see dreams in their eyes and the sacrifice they made and wont be right to judge them cause we know jack about their circumstances. We ain't ignorant to say 'go back home.' What home, the world belongs to nobody but to he or she that gambles, works hard and gets up when life kicks yah in teeth to make it happen. Even england don't belongh to brits, as they came from where? We're all bloody immigrants that come from somewhere.
jobs taken? we set the place up and the system ,i ve worked out your area half my life .you people live in a spirtual striaght jacket women treated like dogs and slaves. when you come here you can<t comprend freedom so u go psycho.

jobs taken? we set the place up and the system ,i ve worked out your area half my life .you people live in a spirtual striaght jacket women treated like dogs and slaves. when you come here you can<t comprend freedom so u go psycho.

UK statistics CENSUS 2001 National England

One in four female respondents (25 percent) and two in 25 male respondents (eight percent) reported being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date some time in their life. One-and-a-half percent of women and 0.9 percent of men said they were raped and/or physically assaulted by such a partner in the last year. This was not even 2004 and now the numbers have grown to staggering heights.

What doies it show? That it happens in England, and yet you you say it happens only in our country? Who runs and implements the laws? The people or the leaders and their corrupt system they've built which they feed? And then you blame it on the people you ******* people. The people in arabia and everhwere have suffered enough from ignorants that lash out on the people and not the government and puppets in the arab world.

Like I said; in this world, there are bad apples in all society and only a moron will use the same brush to judge others but for your case, I'll say this:

I feel the hatred from you but we feel it everyday when we work, live in Britian but do you think this has stopped me and others like me to be successful? Not a chance.

The last generation, our forefathers and mothers came to UK, but they weren't really ready for people like you, believe, we are and we ain't so quiet, or cower away or shy to say 'welcome to the side effects of colonalislm, now ******* live with it. We're here to stay and there's nothing, not a damn thing you can do about it."

And that mate, is the freedom, democracy YOUR system built. So you got any complaints, then move your sorry ass to your political party or contact your MP and tell him why we're taken your jobs away and why the erm, oh yes what did u say:

jobs taken? we set the place up and the system ,i ve worked out your area half my life .you people live in a spirtual striaght jacket women treated like dogs and slaves. when you come here you can<t comprend freedom so u go psycho. :loopy:

No, not psycho but standing up and speaking, and fighting for our rights. I don't believe in being always polite and let people, whether Managing directors to councillors or police talking down or treating us like crap. We speak out without worrying we got a mortgage to pay or what others may think. That's Freedom, Democracy and it only comes to effect when you fight for your rights.

Well people. looks like Sheffield has its racist too but hey, like I said there's good and bad in every society.

Originally posted by theHook
Hmm, didn't see this debate happening and its a long way of june 04, but anyways....Illaria; just a question;

Saudi Arabia, Abu Dubia, Kuwait....all these three and other rich arab countries are filled with white, british people that get paid a helluva a lot more in uk but we don't ask them to leave, nor do we say anything if jobs are scarce.

Way I see it, and many in our countries when many of jobs taken by white, british trained pilots, or engineers, builders, doctors, nurses, is "they deserved it cause they got off their butt and stopped moaning and did more than others might have done. They left their country, sacrificed to build a future for themselves and family."

And yeah, some, a few have a hard time cause it don't work out but we accomadate them, we find them homes, even with our familes cause we see dreams in their eyes and the sacrifice they made and wont be right to judge them cause we know jack about their circumstances. We ain't ignorant to say 'go back home.' What home, the world belongs to nobody but to he or she that gambles, works hard and gets up when life kicks yah in teeth to make it happen. Even england don't belongh to brits, as they came from where? We're all bloody immigrants that come from somewhere.

Sheffield is an awesome place, with awesome people although through time I seen it change and we got some bad apples but still the many good people in Sheffield I bump into and know overwieghs the bad. It ain't safe anywhere if you don't keep a look out and step out too late. It's same everywhere but people in sheffield are people myself and many Yemeni's like me have fallen in love with. Easy to get along and just, well, awesome man! I feel safe, yeah but...I keep my eyes and instints open and ready, as one should.

~One of the best threads I've read on this forum. Good on yer!

Well Ousetunes, thanks. It's true though; we seen them come to our country with nothing, and they remind us of our forefathers.

They come with dreams and man, do they work hard. They bring their children and it was awesome seeing their children playing with ours and when I saw that, I thought

"man, wouldn't it be great if it were like this all time, all of us living in peace together. Why we got cruel people ruining it for everyone."

I seen sailors, engineers, pilots, animtors from usa and brits, come and seen em fight against time before visa run out and we can't help but admire them for their courage.

I'd love to see more brits in our country working cause they bring so much to our countries and I ain't talking about the politicians, we know what they come for, but ordinary people who got dreams cause it fires us up.

I remember this young guy who just finished his civil engineering job. A white guy, scottish. He couldn't find a job in uk, and I said there's plenty in Arabia. I thought he would say:

"nah, too far"

But he didn't and so I got the contact and he followed through. The young man now is in his thirty with one of the most powerful engineering companies that barnched out in Abu dubia to do CG animation films.

Looks like he followed hios heart after all and became what he wanted to do 'animation.'

Man, that's damn awesome and I wish at times, instead of us shouting at each other, we help each other, use our contacts for each other.

But there's that great wall we all face, a wall of judging, ignorance, anger and racisim. Whic in end gets us only rattled and takes us nowhere but back to cave man days, where anything, or anyone is an enemy.

I love Sheffield cause the day I came here with mi sister on my shoulders it told me:

"If you're willing to work hard, will to go for your dreams then you can make it happen. It be hard, you get knocked down many a times but make it happen son."

That was from the taxi driver who drove me to my parents I didn't see since I was kid. And Sheffield stood by its word, the people stood by their word, and sure, I met bad people but the good ones kept me on right track.

Like the old lady next door who liked painting, she taught me to draw and I went to her instead of football to learn.

The man at sandwhich shop who bought me books on english and also taught me to read.

The teacher who fought back againts some teachers when I said I wanted to be a designer, an artists, she backed me up and gave me all support I need but left early cause family were moving around a lot due to racism at that time and our house got burnt in foxglove road cause someone set it on fire on purpose.

Even then, when we saw all our possessions and cops told us they got the white guy who did it, my dad wouldn't press charges cause he said:

"We can build our lives again" and then went and found a job for the white guy in the river don steel works and they are now best mates.

Awesome things happen in sheffield, and I'm always gonna be grateful for the people and the city cause it gave us the chance to make it happen. All we had to do was work hard, be disciplined and leave what others loved most like football for a while or pub, to get to where we are now.

All of us now have own business. My sisters have their business and now managing direectors. My mother has her own small business too and we taught how to do it and she loves it and runs it from her own home cause she's old but it brought her back to life with excitement.

So, not all of us are the same, niot all of us got our religion wrong. Some of us believe women are backbone of our nation, without them, the world doesn't turn round and our children wont be laughing and smiling as they do now.

a bit of the subject but arent you guys supposed to TRIM POSTS when quoting? they go on forever!

Sorry about that NatalieSheff

I'll keep it nice and short next time. Cheers. :cool:

* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?


* Safer than any other city i've been in

* There's no-where i avoid in the day. I've turned down going to a party in Pitsmoor due to concerns about having to get back - but thats solely based on what other people have said about the area. I used to walk back from the arches to crookes all the time without any problems.

* Possibly.

* As safe, apart from in town on a friday or saturday when the pubs kick out.

I like sheffield, I've never really felt threatened walking around day or night. There's not many serious incidents that i can think of involving mates of mine.

basshedz

I feel pretty safe, but like some of the others I live in a safe area, where the chav count is low. However, there are lots of places that I won't go, but mainly at night.

I work in a rather undesirable area of S5 and even going to my car in the carpark when it's dark in winter (at only 4.30/5 ish) I feel unnerved.

I think that as I woman I am constantly aware of my own vulnerability, I'm not being sexist. It's just I know I could really fight off a grown man if I had too.

I think that the key to being safe, and feeling safe, is not putting yourself in any situation where something bad could potentially happen.

Re the poor guy who got attacked on Eccy Rd - I would say that it's easy to have a false sense of security around there. Purely because I would've thought that if you are the sort of person who would want to attack someone, why not go somewhere where there are lots of drunk students, who don't know the area too well? For some people, it would be easy pickings.

I would agree that the key to keeping safe is not to put yourself in a potentially sticky situation, but sometimes they are unavoidable!

A couple of weeks ago some guy tried to get in to my car whilst I was driving down Arudel Gate. I was just setting off again after slowing down for the traffic lights. I dont think he was a carjacker or anything like that - just a drunk idiot. When he couldn't figure out how to get in ( I had quickly pressed the central locking button) he just pounded on the window until I had driven away. This happened at around 4pm!

However, having lived in a few different places, I think Sheffield is distinctly above average for general street safety.

This is my first post by the way. Hello.

I think its really good to see from the sensible replies on this topic that people have a realistic view of safety, and don't believe all the hype in the media about how dangerous our lives are supposed to be now.

For reference, i live in S5 parson cross...

* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?
Usually great, theres the occasional feeling of worry when i see a group of people but feel fine most of the time.

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?
Non during day, at night i avoid ecclesfield like the plauge [no laughing] - but i've walked from meadowhall to mine at 12am before, through shiregreen and deerlands and had no problems at all.

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?
Yes, they give me a sense of security.

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?
No comment, didn't remember then - but its only in the last year i've started to feel slightly nervous when walking past groups of people.

anybody know where i can get the soundtrack for this

Originally posted by theHook
UK statistics CENSUS 2001 National England

One in four female respondents (25 percent) and two in 25 male respondents (eight percent) reported being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date some time in their life. One-and-a-half percent of women and 0.9 percent of men said they were raped and/or physically assaulted by such a partner in the last year. This was not even 2004 and now the numbers have grown to staggering heights.
i never said it only happens in your country ,idiot...miarrage=rape in your society.women don,t get a choice there,as in arranged miarrages for children.as for love if you fall in love your likley to get killed for it ,********!
Like I said; in this world, there are bad apples in all society and only a moron will use the same brush to judge others but for your case, I'll say this:

I feel the hatred from you but we feel it everyday when we work, live in Britian but do you think this has stopped me and others like me to be successful? Not a chance.

The last generation, our forefathers and mothers came to UK, but they weren't really ready for people like you, believe, we are and we ain't so quiet, or cower away or shy to say 'welcome to the side effects of colonalislm, now ******* live with it. We're here to stay and there's nothing, not a damn thing you can do about it."

And that mate, is the freedom, democracy YOUR system built. So you got any complaints, then move your sorry ass to your political party or contact your MP and tell him why we're taken your jobs away and why the erm, oh yes what did u say:

:loopy:

No, not psycho but standing up and speaking, and fighting for our rights. I don't believe in being always polite and let people, whether Managing directors to councillors or police talking down or treating us like crap. We speak out without worrying we got a mortgage to pay or what others may think. That's Freedom, Democracy and it only comes to effect when you fight for your rights.

Well people. looks like Sheffield has its racist too but hey, like I said there's good and bad in every society.

* I feel quite safe when I'm out and about generally going about my day to day business. This is usually because I am surrounded by people though. If I was walking some place where nobody was around except for someone who for whatever reason I thought looked suspect... the keys would go between the fingers just incase (you know what I mean ladies).

*I wouldn't avoid anywhere both during the day and night, except if it is isolated as mentioned above. At night though I will generally avoid going anywhere alone. I don't believe that the more run down areas are more prone to attacks from strangers... muggings can and do happen anywhere. Last year a housemate of mine came home after been mugged at GUN point at the end of our road in Hunter's Bar.

*Of course there should be more police on the beat, that goes almost without saying... but when one football match takes almost the whole sheffield force to police then what can you do!

*I feel less safe because 5 years ago I was a student and hadn't really been exposed to any trouble before... now I have seen several friends deal with numerous break-ins, attacks and muggings and I am therefore more aware of the potential for trouble and the need to keep safe. In 5 years time though I will probably feel the same about my safety as I do now. It is the old and young I feel for as the old are targeted because of their perceived vulnerability and the young are more likely to be targeted either because they tend to throw caution to the wind more when it comes to their own personal safety or because they don't actually think there is any danger or threat... like I didn't at 18.

im currently living and studying in manchester and i have to say i feel a lot safer when im back in sheffield. arguably its a more familiar environment but theres a much greater instance of crime, especially violent in manchester, dispite there being an apparantly higher police presence on the streets.

Britain in general is less safer now than it has ever been, manyreasons for this but in the main they are:

1) Criminal justice system lets nutters off with custodial sentences
A few decades ago even burglars did porridge!

2) This leads to a lack of respect for the law as criminals know they will get off with a few months porridge at the most.

3) Murders downgraded to manslaughter because of silly legal loopholes

4) a lack of intelligence by local councils when housing people. council estates should not have been allowed to grow and turn into mass ghetto's, council homes should have been built in affluent areas to stop the production of ghetto's

5) No police.

I can think of many more reasons but cantbe bothered to spend all day on here!

Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
5) No police.

I can think of many more reasons but cantbe bothered to spend all day on here!

There are police in Sheffield.

Just cause you can't see them doesn't mean they are not about our city.

With a city the size of Sheffield do you really expect to find police on every corner.

And if there's fewer police in Sheffield it probably means there's less crime.

Originally posted by ianmitchell
There are police in Sheffield.

Just cause you can't see them doesn't mean they are not about our city.

With a city the size of Sheffield do you really expect to find police on every corner.

And if there's fewer police in Sheffield it probably means there's less crime.

Dont be blinkered by govt spin....there are less police on the streets than ever before, crime stats are obtained by agencies who are sponsored by the govt so that they get the stats that support their political aims. One thing to note when looking at crime stats....they dont tale into account crimes that are not reported. Most people now either dont report because the police dont do anything about it afterwards, or they are too scared to report a crime due to increaing intimidatory tactics from scumbags...think about that before you say that fewer police means less crime...also theres no point having more police if they are stuck in an office or car all day is there?

[i]Originally posted by IanMitchell [/
With a city the size of Sheffield do you really expect to find police on every corner.

[/B] in most major citys in japan theres apoliceman for every block he gets to know most people on the block and there problems

well of course they don't count crimes that aren't reported. How would they do that, using psychic powers?
And of course, last year, and the year before they also didn't count them. In fact they've never been counted, so it's irrelevant, we can still see any trend upwards as downwards just so long as the way that the stats are collected doesn't change from year to year.

Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
Dont be blinkered by govt spin....there are less police on the streets than ever before, crime stats are obtained by agencies who are sponsored by the govt so that they get the stats that support their political aims. One thing to note when looking at crime stats....they dont tale into account crimes that are not reported. Most people now either dont report because the police dont do anything about it afterwards, or they are too scared to report a crime due to increaing intimidatory tactics from scumbags...think about that before you say that fewer police means less crime...also theres no point having more police if they are stuck in an office or car all day is there?

Originally posted by Cyclone
well of course they don't count crimes that aren't reported. How would they do that, using psychic powers?


But the fact is that S Yorks police are amongst the four worst forces for properly reporting crime statistics, according to a recent survey reported in the Times. These were reported crimes that were failing to make it into the crime stats. and were maimly muggings and anti-social behaviour etc.

I posted a link to the report on the 21st., but it seems you can't get anything from their web site over 7 days old.


Edit: the survey is in fact an Audit Commssion report

http://www.audit-commission.gov.uk/reports/PRESS-RELEASE.asp?CategoryID=PRESS-CENTRE&ProdID=ADEB5F5C-BFCE-49B6-BCFD-CCC7E242A94B

in which S Yorks, Cleveland, Cumbria and the London Met Police Authorities are shown to have serious problems with accurate crime reporting.

Most areas are scary at night. Even Fulwood/Dore etc...

Disagree, what is the problem with Fulwood at night? In 25 years I have never known a single incident and I sued to walk home a lot at night around Fulwood, Xpool, Lodge Moor etc

* How safe do you feel when out and about in Sheffield?
Generally pretty safe.

* Are there any places you avoid in both daylight and at night?
There's nowhere I avoid at daytime. At night I avoid anywhere that's off the beaten track - don't take shortcuts down unlit alleyways or sidestreets. I work on West Street - I find some of the back roads round there and around Devonshire Green feel unsafe after dark.

I used to work in Meadowhall and found Tinsley felt unsafe - I'd always keep the car doors locked when driving through that area, and I certainly wouldn't have walked through there at night.

* Do you think there should be more police on the beat?
Yes, proper police too, not plastic police (AKA Community Support Officers).

* Do you think you feel less or more safe on the streets of Sheffield than you did say, five years ago?
Probably about the same.

Shiregreen mother to all the dodgy, hooligan ,drug dealers,pimps .pls dont fight back if some good reader leaves there. I hate bxxxxs.

How safe do I feel in Sheffield? Pretty safe, it's just a question of using your noggin and avoiding the areas you're most likely to receive a kicking. Lived in burngreave for 18 years and near firvale for 5 more, walked through both these areas at all times of the day and night and never a scratch. Took a beating in town centre several years ago and that was around 2 in the afternoon - shoppers everywhere, it was a drugged up moron that did it mind.
Do I feel less or more safe now? Probably the same - where I live now. Not sure about walking around where I used to live, don't know what it's like now esp at night.
More Police? Yes - loads.