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Greybeard 30-04-2007, 10:53 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_method=full%26objectid=18986958%26siteid=89520-name_page.html
Have these cretinous council workers really nothing better to do than harrass people in this way ? :mad:
Bet they haven't the guts to try telling Tesco they can't sell 'toad in the hole' or Scotch Eggs.
baileys_mum 30-04-2007, 10:54 :hihi: bloody fools
when it comes to dealing with things that really count eg like selling illegal goods or harrassment from finance companies you cant see a Trading Standards Officer for dust, love or money
Total stupidity !! its cos of them doing things like that the things they should be sorting get nothing done about:loopy:
absolutely ridiculous, wish i hadnt read it now cos things like that really get my goat, what an absolute waste of bleeping time :rant:
LordChaverly 30-04-2007, 11:54 The logic of this is that no purveyor of desserts can now offer 'bombe surprise' on the menu unless it contains a bomb, or 'death by chocolate' cake unless it is likely to kill you
I was talking to a friend last night about this. He'd heard a radio interview with the bun shop owner and someone from the Trading Standards. Apparently, the shop has failed to provide details of their cakes' ingredients (flour, eggs, whatever) and to provide labelling in accordance with allergy labelling regulations (eg. 'this product contains nuts').
So, no political correctness gone mad then.
The logic of this is that no purveyor of desserts can now offer 'bombe surprise' on the menu unless it contains a bomb, or 'death by chocolate' cake unless it is likely to kill you
You are, of course, presuming that these guys have logic with which to reason. It is my regrettable experience that such a skill is not something they trained to use; I also suspect it does not fall within their remit to use the skills of logic, rationale or reason because at the end of the day they are truly jobsworths and it would be unwise of anyone to think otherwise.
SleepyHead 30-04-2007, 12:08 I was talking to a friend last night about this. He'd heard a radio interview with the bun shop owner and someone from the Trading Standards. Apparently, the shop has failed to provide details of their cakes' ingredients (flour, eggs, whatever) and to provide labelling in accordance with allergy labelling regulations (eg. 'this product contains nuts').
So, no political correctness gone mad then.
So how come the name of the 'novelty cakes' (which itself isn't so descriptive a phrase, really) is the issue the owner's complaining about?
LibertyBell 30-04-2007, 12:37 I was talking to a friend last night about this. He'd heard a radio interview with the bun shop owner and someone from the Trading Standards. Apparently, the shop has failed to provide details of their cakes' ingredients (flour, eggs, whatever) and to provide labelling in accordance with allergy labelling regulations (eg. 'this product contains nuts').
So, no political correctness gone mad then.
There are usually two sides to these tabloid outrage stories.
Himupnorth 30-04-2007, 12:38 absolutely ridiculous, wish i hadnt read it now cos things like that really get my goat, what an absolute waste of bleeping time :rant:
Sorry but I'm going to have to report you to the Trading Standards Office. Unless you can prove you have a goat. :P
I had a quick look and found the original report in a local newspaper
http://archive.thisisdorset.net/2007/4/28/125203.html
You'll note that the Mirror was somewhat selective in its quote from the trading standards manager. The second paragraph below sheds a slightly different light on the subject.
"Ivan Hancock, the county's trading standards manager, said: "The fact is that piece of food needs to be properly described so that the consumer can tell what it is.
"There's nothing wrong with using other names but it must be accompanied by the true name of the food."
Of course, the bakery owner disputes what was said, so it was a cock up in communications more than anything else!
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steadiman 30-04-2007, 13:08 Its not just Britain . I caught this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/north_yorkshire/6606779.stm)on the news this morning
Greybeard 30-04-2007, 13:13 I was talking to a friend last night about this. He'd heard a radio interview with the bun shop owner and someone from the Trading Standards. Apparently, the shop has failed to provide details of their cakes' ingredients (flour, eggs, whatever) and to provide labelling in accordance with allergy labelling regulations (eg. 'this product contains nuts').
So, no political correctness gone mad then.
Nowt to do with 'PC' - but from what you say it has much to do with vindictiveness - or simple spite. I've never seen any 'ingredient' labelling in Greggs shops or on the 'freshly baked' stuff in supermarkets.
It still to me sounds like some LA official getting on their high horse and when the victim doesn't kowtow she gets victimised.
There are just far too many petty regulations these days with no better justification it seems than to provide petty people with a good salary. Most of them come out of the EU and just get rubber-stamped by the wimps in Westminster.
BasilRathbon 30-04-2007, 13:23 Back in my day "Spotted Dick " was a tasty dessert. Now it's an STD.
Sorry but I'm going to have to report you to the Trading Standards Office. Unless you can prove you have a goat. :P
my goat is called gazunti, and he lives in my cellar along with derek the 1 legged duck and clarence the snail :D
LordChaverly 30-04-2007, 13:31 Back in my day "Spotted Dick " was a tasty dessert. Now it's an STD.
STD - presumably you mean a Super Tasty Dessert
BasilRathbon 30-04-2007, 13:34 STD - presumably you mean a Super Tasty Dessert
Indeed - and I'd be perfectly happy to share my Spotted Dick with you, if you;'re ever in my area.
Indeed - and I'd be perfectly happy to share my Spotted Dick with you, if you;'re ever in my area.
Would that be with or without custard? :hihi:
Nowt to do with 'PC' - but from what you say it has much to do with vindictiveness - or simple spite. I've never seen any 'ingredient' labelling in Greggs shops or on the 'freshly baked' stuff in supermarkets.
It still to me sounds like some LA official getting on their high horse and when the victim doesn't kowtow she gets victimised.
There are just far too many petty regulations these days with no better justification it seems than to provide petty people with a good salary. Most of them come out of the EU and just get rubber-stamped by the wimps in Westminster.
vfrom what I've seenb of these Trading Standardsd characters that probly summs it up in a nutshell.
Himupnorth 30-04-2007, 13:52 my goat is called gazunti, and he lives in my cellar along with derek the 1 legged duck and clarence the snail :D
Gazunti sounds like an asylum seeker, and Derek is clearly disabled. This fulfils two of the quotas. Woe betide if Clarence isn't either on an ASBO or gay. :hihi:
drinkingman 30-04-2007, 14:13 my goat is called gazunti, and he lives in my cellar along with derek the 1 legged duck and clarence the snail :D
Have you taken out a risk assessment? What's the chances of Clarence being intimidated or eaten by Derek? Or for that matter, what if Gazunti takes a fancy to duck?
Plain Talker 30-04-2007, 15:07 so she'd better not try selling sheperd's pie, or cottage pie..
and woe betide her bakewell tart..
so she'd better not try selling sheperd's pie, or cottage pie..
and woe betide her bakewell tart..
or bath buns or Eccles cakes!
Dozy
Gazunti sounds like an asylum seeker, and Derek is clearly disabled. This fulfils two of the quotas. Woe betide if Clarence isn't either on an ASBO or gay. :hihi:
OMG, how did you know? Clarence, bless him, is gay :D
Phanerothyme 30-04-2007, 15:34 I had a quick look and found the original report in a local newspaper
http://archive.thisisdorset.net/2007/4/28/125203.html
You'll note that the Mirror was somewhat selective in its quote from the trading standards manager. The second paragraph below sheds a slightly different light on the subject.
"Ivan Hancock, the county's trading standards manager, said: "The fact is that piece of food needs to be properly described so that the consumer can tell what it is.
"There's nothing wrong with using other names but it must be accompanied by the true name of the food."
Of course, the bakery owner disputes what was said, so it was a cock up in communications more than anything else!
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Never let facts get in the way of a good story!
Seems like the baker had trouble understanding plain English and heard whatever confirmed her prejudices, not what was actually said.
It's common enough. People hear what they want to hear.
SleepyHead 30-04-2007, 16:00 People hear what they want to hear.
Thanks! I love your avatar too! :)
Greybeard 30-04-2007, 16:27 Of course, the bakery owner disputes what was said, so it was a cock up in communications more than anything else!
The owner also said "I'm sure other places haven't been told they should list all the ingredients. It's ridiculous having a long list of ingredients - of course customers are not going to think I put robin and pork in a cake."
If I were her and sure about that I'd be complaining about being picked on :)
I don't often get to read the Mirror, but there was a queue in the barber's this morning and it was a choice of the Mirror or Daily Sport :gag:;
Been good for two pages here anyway :D
The owner also said "I'm sure other places haven't been told they should list all the ingredients. It's ridiculous having a long list of ingredients - of course customers are not going to think I put robin and pork in a cake."
If I were her and sure about that I'd be complaining about being picked on :)
I don't often get to read the Mirror, but there was a queue in the barber's this morning and it was a choice of the Mirror or Daily Sport :gag:;
Been good for two pages here anyway :D
Dont worry council officials are experienced wrigglers and they'd wangle their way out of this as well, regardless of however rifght she was in her complaints which I'm sure is the truth. I'd lay odds that even with a verified tape-recording of the meeting that they'd get off scot free
Jabberwocky 30-04-2007, 18:47 Such is the state of the nation today.
Its going to get worse too, people like this have a voice for some reason and as long as they can get away with it, theyre going to milk it for all theyre worth.
The owner also said "I'm sure other places haven't been told they should list all the ingredients. It's ridiculous having a long list of ingredients - of course customers are not going to think I put robin and pork in a cake."
If I were her and sure about that I'd be complaining about being picked on :)
I don't often get to read the Mirror, but there was a queue in the barber's this morning and it was a choice of the Mirror or Daily Sport :gag:;
Been good for two pages here anyway :D
You were lucky, all I had was a choice of the Daily Mail or the Express! :gag:
Outraged customer James Marper said: "What are they going to try to get rid of next - spotted dick?"
:hihi:
Classic ironies which you just can't make up! :D
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