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firecracker
28-04-2007, 17:05
Thanks to Hull winning 1-0 at Cardiff and Leeds drawing 1-1 at home against Ipswich (despite a pitch invasion at Elland Road which stopped the match for 20 minutes after Ipswich equalised in the 88th minute), Leeds are certain as damn to be relegated, barring two freak scorelines like Leeds winning 5-0 at Derby and Hull City losing by a similar margin at home against Plymouth, whilst Barnsley have clawed their way to safety. At the moment Leeds are 3 points behind Hull with a 9 goals inferior goal difference - and surely that can't be made up on the final day of the season. So a local derby against Leeds is something for Doncaster and Huddersfield fans to look forward to next season.

KJ_VENOM
28-04-2007, 17:12
sorry for shouting but,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ivor&Mel
28-04-2007, 18:43
Schadenfreude is a nasty word (to spell!).. but what a wonderful warm feeling it gives :rolleyes:

ChrisTodd
28-04-2007, 18:49
It does seem that everyone who isn't a Leeds fan did want them to go down, and I'm no exception.

They are the latest in the line of teams that have fallen from the top league and through the Championship in a short space of time.

And I doubt they will be the last.

grownsy
28-04-2007, 19:03
Im a happy man

e5c4p3
28-04-2007, 19:53
Third rate city.

Third rate club.

Third rate team.

Third rate fans.

They are where they belong.

CHAIRBOY
28-04-2007, 20:06
So much for Bates's obsession with that objectionable Wise as manager.

matsalleh
29-04-2007, 13:41
I like this quote from a Leeds fan
"Leeds are a bit like the old dog that wets itself and smells. Once he dies you know he is better off."
I think both Sheffield sides have done as much as could be expected (so far)

Agent Gypo
29-04-2007, 14:16
I know it's not nice to gloat at relegation, but..

I did smile when I heard the news.

happyhippy
29-04-2007, 15:47
I havent taken any joy in their as-near-as-damn-it confirmed relegation.

Honest :hihi:

daftlad
29-04-2007, 16:12
I feel really sorry for Leeds and I mean that from the heart of my bottom:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

animal2006
29-04-2007, 16:28
Third rate city.

Third rate club.

Third rate team.

Third rate fans.

They are where they belong. No they are not. they belong in the conferance, Mind the doors, going down. YES.

daftlad
29-04-2007, 16:35
I have just opened a Lets all laugh at Leeds post on the Leeds bbc message board if anyone else would like to write in the book of condolences:hihi: :hihi:

KJ_VENOM
29-04-2007, 17:12
I have just opened a Lets all laugh at Leeds post on the Leeds bbc message board if anyone else would like to write in the book of condolences:hihi: :hihi:

post a link then lets all have a laugh :thumbsup:

daftlad
29-04-2007, 17:19
www.bbc.co,uk

at the top of the screen it says where I live click that put your postcode in takes you to Sheffield. Click football heaven then messageboard, it takes you to local message boards then just click Leeds at side of screen

happyhippy
29-04-2007, 17:44
Well I must be having a stupid moment because I can't find a messageboard on the 'football heaven' site.

daftlad
29-04-2007, 17:47
my fault, sorry. you click have your say on the football heaven website then messageboard

happyhippy
29-04-2007, 17:48
I have however found this thread (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/england/F2770282?thread=4103267&phrase=Leeds) on there ..

daftlad
29-04-2007, 17:52
I have however found this thread (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/england/F2770282?thread=4103267&phrase=Leeds) on there ..

Thats the one and I hope other people can contribute to this worthy cause:hihi:

happyhippy
29-04-2007, 17:52
Thats the one and I hope other people can contribute to this worthy cause:hihi:

Just did son, just did ..

Little_Alex
29-04-2007, 18:43
A proper smack in the face for Leeds. Why do they think they have a divine right to be a premiership side after being successful for just one decade in their 90 years in the league. May they suffer for a long time :D

geocol
29-04-2007, 18:46
It won't have sunk in for them.. yet!

But it will by the end of June, once the new fixture list comes out, and the best bit will be when the FA Cup First round draw is made at the end of october and they get Marine or Morecambe!

happyhippy
29-04-2007, 19:04
A proper smack in the face for Leeds. Why do they think they have a divine right to be a premiership side after being successful for just one decade in their 90 years in the league. May they suffer for a long time :D

Indeed. I hope their piles develop piles.

happyhippy
29-04-2007, 19:05
It won't have sunk in for them.. yet!

But it will by the end of June, once the new fixture list comes out, and the best bit will be when the FA Cup First round draw is made at the end of october and they get Marine or Morecambe!

And even better if they're beaten ..

Ally68
29-04-2007, 19:06
This is great! :hihi: :hihi:

lets all laugh at l**ds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLPsUxJzMVg)

CorkerSWFC
29-04-2007, 19:36
Its a hard job to get out of that league., (sniggers) lol.

grownsy
30-04-2007, 02:25
i feel sorry for leeds..

infact no i dont

im tellings lies


" we all hate leeds "

surfinjim
30-04-2007, 04:10
It won't have sunk in for them.. yet!

But it will by the end of June, once the new fixture list comes out, and the best bit will be when the FA Cup First round draw is made at the end of october and they get Marine or Morecambe!

I think thats an insult to the mighty Shrimpers!!

Jim

billyhill
30-04-2007, 07:02
The even better news is that they are likely to go into administration this week acording to BBC News this morning.
Thereby giving everybody elese a 10 points start. Watch their"stars" disappear in a puff of smoke.
There is the very real likelihood of them going down again next season.
Which Wednesday supporters wanted Ken Bates to as Chairman?

mickdalewood
30-04-2007, 09:15
Have heard that they may go into administration this week

CorkerSWFC
30-04-2007, 09:26
There will be some players going cheap then i,ll have Alan thompson, David Healy, and Richard Cresswell lol.

trophyman
30-04-2007, 10:13
just replied to this one on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_4Xj00rFLQ&mode=related&search=

Ousetunes
30-04-2007, 10:14
This is great! :hihi: :hihi:

lets all laugh at l**ds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLPsUxJzMVg)

Funniest thing I've ever seen on here.

Thank you.

e5c4p3
30-04-2007, 11:01
This just in from the BBC's Look North:

'' Following this weeks sad news presenters Harry and Christa will today be wearing black arm bands as a mark of respect.

Sadly Leeds United Football Club passed away at the age of 87.

Tributes have been pouring in from as far away as Beeston and Hunslet but one Sheffield viewer rang in to say '' It's very surprising news. I didn't know they played football in Leeds. It's a rugby town isn't it?''

But perhaps the most poignant tribute however will be from popular sports reporter Tanya Arnold who will wear her moustache at half mast.''

BasilRathbon
30-04-2007, 11:12
One particular fond memory of Look North's sporting coverage was last season on the eve of the play off final between Watford and Leeds. They sent a reporter out onto the street of Leeds asking the fans about their opinions; thanks to selective editing virtually every person said something along the lines of "We're going back to the Premiership where we belong".

Well, we know where dear old Leeds belong now; and isn't it a shame to see the fall of a once-mighty club? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Funky_Gibbon
30-04-2007, 11:46
The even better news is that they are likely to go into administration this week acording to BBC News this morning.
Thereby giving everybody elese a 10 points start. Watch their"stars" disappear in a puff of smoke.
There is the very real likelihood of them going down again next season.

And then there's also the possibility of them getting points deducted for the pitch invasion! Is it Christmas already?

Which Wednesday supporters wanted Ken Bates to as Chairman?

Only those morons at the Owls Trust - now rebranded as Wednesdayite after it became clear that they'd been bought by Bates (didn't that Hemingway bloke disappear after his master to set up at Leeds supporters club?)

ChrisTodd
30-04-2007, 12:40
This just in from the BBC's Look North:

'' Following this weeks sad news presenters Harry and Christa will today be wearing black arm bands as a mark of respect.

Sadly Leeds United Football Club passed away at the age of 87.

Tributes have been pouring in from as far away as Beeston and Hunslet but one Sheffield viewer rang in to say '' It's very surprising news. I didn't know they played football in Leeds. It's a rugby town isn't it?''

But perhaps the most poignant tribute however will be from popular sports reporter Tanya Arnold who will wear her moustache at half mast.''

Excellent :hihi:

geocol
30-04-2007, 13:53
(..didn't that Hemingway bloke disappear after his master to set up at Leeds supporters club?)

It's all become clear now, why.

Bates obviously needed people with some experience of the third division.

Preacher Man
30-04-2007, 14:04
i do feel a little bit sorry for leeds. they tried to break into the top 4 on a regular basis and overspent going for it. if anything it shows how tough its going to be for any team outside the 4 to join the group and the potential consequences to any team that pushes the boat out financially to do so.

trophyman
30-04-2007, 14:16
i do feel a little bit sorry for leeds. they tried to break into the top 4 on a regular basis and overspent going for it. if anything it shows how tough its going to be for any team outside the 4 to join the group and the potential consequences to any team that pushes the boat out financially to do so.

are you an owl/blade/miller/tyke/donny/spireite fan??

me thinks not

altogether now..marching DOWN together :hihi: :hihi:

geocol
30-04-2007, 14:41
Further to my previous post re. "It won't have sunk in for them.. yet!"

Port Vale away early on in the season, will give them an idea of what life is like in the Third.

A few pints of produce from the "Titanic Brewery", should set the theme nicely.

geocol
30-04-2007, 15:55
And their arrogance still continues even now..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A22208726

CHAIRBOY
30-04-2007, 18:21
Will Bates seek to introduce electronic fencing as he once did at Stamford Bridge?

happyhippy
30-04-2007, 18:25
Will Bates seek to introduce electronic fencing as he once did at Stamford Bridge?

I'd imagine so. They might keep the fans in then ..

Chop
30-04-2007, 19:21
Wise Wise, wherever you may be..
You've taken Leeeds to Division three
You'll never win a cup
And you'll never win a shield
And your biggest match is at Huddersfield

!!

daftlad
30-04-2007, 19:44
Marchin down together
down to fizzy pop league one na na na na na nah
dwarf Denis Wise
brings tears of laughter to my eyes
we hate you Leeds Leeds Leeds

CHAIRBOY
01-05-2007, 09:02
"Bates has always been fond of Wise, but the little Chelsea captain has fought his demons. He was sentenced to three months' imprisonment, overturned on appeal, for assaulting a taxi driver in 1995.

He was accused of biting a Mallorcan player in the Cup-Winners' Cup in 1999. He missed 15 Chelsea games due to suspension in the 1998-99 season. None of these incidents disprove his fitness as a manager - witness one Roy Keane, once also excitable - but the furious outburst after the Crystal Palace match this season when he accused one of his players of being a 'mole' and passing on tactical trade secrets to the opposition, indicated unnecessary hysteria.
"As Sir Alex Ferguson said of Wise: "He could start a fight in an empty house". So could Sir Alex, for that matter, but Manchester United aren't sliding into old Division Three. That is a difference.

Even the fans are revolting. Against each other and everything else. On Saturday the supporters that remained in their seats turned on the gormless exhibitionists who invaded the pitch, forcing the temporary abandonment of the match against Ipswich. It is a club imploding as doom approaches.

The devil's work is all but over, except you cannot help wondering whether human frailty has its part in the drama after all.

"Thirty years ago Revie resigned in uproar as England manager, his reputation forever tarnished, to take up a £340,000 tax-free post as manger of the United Arab Emirates team. Only a few voices were raised in his defence, notably his old Leeds United players. John Giles was one of them. "But who isn't greedy?" he said. The sentiment is hugely apt.

There is nothing supernatural about the story of Leeds United.

Super greedy and sadly human, more like it. Leeds United have been devoured by ambition unfulfilled and continuous, ill-conceived human error to the point where they have traded Premiership life (average annual turnover £75 million) to League One (£5 million). It cannot make them terribly attractive to prospective buyers. Except that by entering administration at this stage of the season the automatically-triggered 10-point deduction may affect this season and not next. Quite a smart, if ethically-debatable, move.

What are the football authorities going to do about it? Having failed to deduct points from West Ham United despite absolutely solid grounds of precedent, there seems to be a moratorium on fitting punishments to big teams on hard times. Maybe Leeds, in their darkest hour, are going to have a slice of luck. Maybe they've done another deal with the devil."

- part of Sue Mott's review of Leeds in May 1st's Daily Telegraph.

geocol
01-05-2007, 09:42
.
- but the furious outburst after the Crystal Palace match this season when he accused one of his players of being a 'mole' and passing on tactical trade secrets to the opposition, indicated unnecessary hysteria.


Has Shaun Derry played ever since?

I think not, and that we can draw our own conclusions.

CHAIRBOY
01-05-2007, 10:13
"On 26 October 2006, new Leeds manager, Dennis Wise revealed that Derry has been made vice captain of the club, with Kevin Nicholls made captain.[1] Derry was once again a regular in the Leeds team in the 2006-07 season, however many Leeds fans believe that his performances were not as good as those in the previous season. Speculation suggests that Shaun could be one of the many players to leave Leeds during the summer transfer window.

An injury has kept him out of Leeds run in to the season." - Wikipedia

As heard on TV yesterday, "little about this Leeds' set-up is transparent."

Has Gary Kelly played his last game for Leeds? Kelly is reportedly 'injured' though the specific injury has not been made known. My source told me that had Kelly played in the final few matches, he 'allegedly' would have been entitled to a substantial amount of money as per his contract.

BasilRathbon
01-05-2007, 10:33
Has Gary Kelly played his last game for Leeds? Kelly is reportedly 'injured' though the specific injury has not been made known. My source told me that had Kelly played in the final few matches, he 'allegedly' would have been entitled to a substantial amount of money as per his contract.

Kelly's contract is the stuff of legend - apparently Leeds are having to pay him more than Colchester United pay their whole squad! Did you know that Leeds are also continuing to pay the wages of Robbie Fowler and Danny Mills?

If it was any other club it would be sad - as it's Leeds it's absolutely hilarious!

CHAIRBOY
01-05-2007, 10:44
Kelly's contract is the stuff of legend - apparently Leeds are having to pay him more than Colchester United pay their whole squad! Did you know that Leeds are also continuing to pay the wages of Robbie Fowler and Danny Mills?

If it was any other club it would be sad - as it's Leeds it's absolutely hilarious!

Are payments still on-going to Messrs Reid and O'Leary?

Ned Ludd
01-05-2007, 11:02
Is it good for the soul to take delight in the suffering of others?

Craig7777
01-05-2007, 11:06
Is it good for the soul to take delight in the suffering of others?

I believe only if they are from leeds :)

LadyOwl
01-05-2007, 11:24
The even better news is that they are likely to go into administration this week acording to BBC News this morning.
Thereby giving everybody elese a 10 points start. Watch their"stars" disappear in a puff of smoke.
There is the very real likelihood of them going down again next season.
Which Wednesday supporters wanted Ken Bates to as Chairman?

If they go into administration before the final game of this season the points deducted will come off this seasons points, so next season they will start on no points like everyone else.

CHAIRBOY
01-05-2007, 11:36
If they go into administration before the final game of this season the points deducted will come off this seasons points, so next season they will start on no points like everyone else.

"Except that by entering administration at this stage of the season the automatically-triggered 10-point deduction may affect this season and not next. Quite a smart, if ethically-debatable, move.

What are the football authorities going to do about it? Having failed to deduct points from West Ham United despite absolutely solid grounds of precedent, there seems to be a moratorium on fitting punishments to big teams on hard times. Maybe Leeds, in their darkest hour, are going to have a slice of luck. Maybe they've done another deal with the devil."

- part of Sue Mott's review of Leeds in May 1st's Daily Telegraph.

F. Sidebottom
01-05-2007, 12:27
Ken Bates:

"When we're back where we belong, we'll remember the people who did support us and those who didn't support us,"

1. You are where you belong.

2. There'll be a lot more to remember for not supporting you than those to remember for supporting you.

But overall, what desperate, arrogant crap he speaks.

It'll be 10 years before Leeds are back, and Bates won't be able to remeber what he had for breakfast that morning by that time.

animal2006
01-05-2007, 12:51
I have been a supporter of man utd since 1963, so am not bothered by l--ds plight. It disturbs me when the scum start doing the dambusters. the munich air crash was 49 years ago, for gods sake move on. none of them are fit to kiss Duncan Edwards boots, never mind putting him down now he is gone.
MAY YOU ROT IN HELL L--DS !!

animal2006
01-05-2007, 13:04
Ken Bates:

"When we're back where we belong, we'll remember the people who did support us and those who didn't support us,"

1. You are where you belong.

2. There'll be a lot more to remember for not supporting you than those to remember for supporting you.

But overall, what desperate, arrogant crap he speaks.

It'll be 10 years before Leeds are back, and Bates won't be able to remeber what he had for breakfast that morning by that time.don't think he knows what he had for breakfast now!!
have they paid off Kevin Blackwell yet??

Jonny5
01-05-2007, 13:19
"Except that by entering administration at this stage of the season the automatically-triggered 10-point deduction may affect this season and not next. Quite a smart, if ethically-debatable, move.

What are the football authorities going to do about it? Having failed to deduct points from West Ham United despite absolutely solid grounds of precedent, there seems to be a moratorium on fitting punishments to big teams on hard times. Maybe Leeds, in their darkest hour, are going to have a slice of luck. Maybe they've done another deal with the devil."

- part of Sue Mott's review of Leeds in May 1st's Daily Telegraph.

This is L***s we are talking about. Ethics isn't a word in their vocabulary and it certainly won't enter this particular equation.

Gration appeared to be pleased on Looks L***s last night when he alluded to the 10 point penalty going on this season rather than next.

BasilRathbon
01-05-2007, 13:26
This is L***s we are talking about. Ethics isn't a word in their vocabulary .


That's where you're wrong - Leeds will be visiting the county of Ethics next year when they go to Southend.

sufc_tom
01-05-2007, 13:44
Being a student at Huddersfield as of the summer I will make my way upto the Huddersfield/Leeds games for a good chortle.

NEKRO138
01-05-2007, 13:45
Gration appeared to be pleased on Looks L***s last night when he alluded to the 10 point penalty going on this season rather than next.

Screw Gration and screw Leeds.

BasilRathbon
01-05-2007, 14:38
Screw Gration and screw Leeds.

What would you do with Christa?

ChrisTodd
01-05-2007, 14:57
It would feel wrong if Leeds got a 10 point deduction this season.

If they did this the Football League should give them a 10 point deduction next season as punshment for the pitch invasion.

If they got away with it every team could go into administration as soon as relegation was confirmed as a way to reduce their debts and start afresh the following season.

It isn't really in the spirit of sport.

NEKRO138
01-05-2007, 15:36
What would you do with Christa?

I'd have to rub some muck on her to prevent her horrid tan blinding me before I did anything.

Ally68
01-05-2007, 17:29
Ok, just one more for the road...

very childish but, Oh so funny! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJAmL6zNpo)

:hihi:

Treatment
02-05-2007, 16:03
Look on the bright side chaps!

When, next season on 'Look Leeds', they are still the first item on Mr Tanya's football round up, we will be able to keep a close eye on events at Leyton Orient, Crewe Alexandra, Southend, Hartlepool and the rest of the 'Big Hitters'.:gag:

CHAIRBOY
03-05-2007, 07:05
Bates added: "The people of Leeds tell me they need a successful club. They have to get off their backsides and support us. Most of the criticism comes from people who never come to the club.

"We will get there and when we do we will remember those people who supported us and, more importantly, we will remember those people who didn't support us. Revenge will be a dish best eaten." - May 3 D.T.

trophyman
03-05-2007, 13:56
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

the FA have just announced that due to the demise of leeds united, there will be a minutes laughing before kick off throughout the country.

please honour and respect this :cough: sad, occasion :hihi:

Treatment
03-05-2007, 14:40
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

the FA have just announced that due to the demise of leeds united, there will be a minutes laughing before kick off throughout the country.

please honour and respect this :cough: sad, occasion :hihi:

Nice one sir !

happyhippy
03-05-2007, 15:06
The Weeds United executive board have expressed their rage about the "mindless idiots" who ran on to the pitch against Ipswich.

A spokesman said,

"We honestly expected the team to play better than that."

CHAIRBOY
04-05-2007, 06:55
"With Leeds United expected to edge closer to administration today, property tycoon Simon Morris last night emerged as a possible bidder for the club.

The Daily Telegraph has learned that Morris, a member of the Gerald Krasner consortium which sold out to Ken Bates in a £10 million deal in January 2005, is preparing to launch a takeover of the troubled club in the next few days.

The 29-year-old businessman, who is worth £69 million according to The Sunday Times rich list, is understood to be on the verge of making an offer. Whether he is successful will largely depend on whether Bates decides to place the club in administration before the Championship season ends on Sunday.

Although Leeds were effectively condemned to relegation last weekend, calling in the administrators now would ensure that the League's automatic 10-point penalty would apply to this season instead of next." - D.T.

CHAIRBOY
04-05-2007, 15:12
Fun in the courts? http://www.sportinglife.com/football/cc_championship/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/05/04/SOCCER_Leeds.html&TEAMHD=nationwide1

http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/05/04/SOCCER_Sheff_Utd_West_Ham.html

Hopman
04-05-2007, 15:33
Surprise, surprise.

Leeds are in administration and lose ten points immediately. "Letter of the law, not sprit of the law?"

Dick_Turpin
04-05-2007, 15:57
10 points off this season ??! when they are already doomed. Shocking.

Mind you ,though most of the world will think its disgusting that they have "Got away with it" it doesnt come as a shock. That poison old goat was always going to manage to put a spoke in and ruin all our fun....he alwasy slips out of it.

saxon51
04-05-2007, 18:39
10 points off this season ??! when they are already doomed. Shocking.

.
:rolleyes:
About on a par with - and as stupid as - banning someone from driving for a year when they don't even hold a driving licence, and probably never will.

:confused:

At least they finish bottom. 24th place, with minus 24 goals, sponsored by bet 24, and a 24" manager.
:hihi: :hihi:

happyhippy
04-05-2007, 19:09
It's scandalous. I hope Rotherham and Wrexham make official and public complaints about this.

It'll not make much difference in terms of the "punishment", but this sort of thing can't be swept under the carpet.

CHAIRBOY
04-05-2007, 20:12
Didn't Accrington recently escape a points deduction when in breach of regulations? That could have sent them back into the Conference. Clear examples of double standards.
As for Leeds, I would suggest the regulatory 10-point deduction for administration needs reviewing in the light of today's 'shrewdness'.

nexus_
04-05-2007, 20:40
Whilst I hate to get in the way of the anti Leeds feeling it should be noted that the situation with Leeds and Rotherham is actually different. Leeds went into administration and Rotherham into insolvency, the puinishments are different it states it in the 'rules'.

As for spirit of the law, every fan of their club would happily accept what Leeds are doing if it was their club and it gave them a chance of survival. The funny thing is how many people are claiming they wouldn't want their club to do it.

The problem I have with the whole situation is that business and football are so closely interlinked nowadays that the football side loses respect, reputation etc (I mean English football, footie in general, not just Leeds) because of a business rule. In the business world, Master Bates and Co have not done anything wrong. But it is about money to them and not the reputation of Leeds or English footie.

The Q about when 10 points should be deducted is a messy one, and not one that can be satisifed easily. I know I've tried, the only way to stop this mis-management is to do to clubs what was done to Swindon many years ago - relegate them.

I realise Leeds are down already, but it would be another relegation in L2 in this case. I believe Swindon went down an extra division or something due to some financial problem - though i cannot remember the details.

happyhippy
04-05-2007, 22:44
Whilst I hate to get in the way of the anti Leeds feeling it should be noted that the situation with Leeds and Rotherham is actually different. Leeds went into administration and Rotherham into insolvency, the puinishments are different it states it in the 'rules'.

Are you sure (welcome in, by the way :thumbsup:)? Anyway, the point is more to do with the fact that this "punishment" means Jack's, unless Weeds overturn the nine goals, and Hull lose tomorrow.

I must say, should that happen, I would probably laugh myself to death.

As for spirit of the law, every fan of their club would happily accept what Leeds are doing if it was their club and it gave them a chance of survival. The funny thing is how many people are claiming they wouldn't want their club to do it.

That's not the point either. Were it Wrexham, Rotherham, etc., who were in Weeds' position this season, they wouldn't have got away with what Weeds are doing. Similarly the Burst Bubbles fiasco.

The problem I have with the whole situation is that business and football are so closely interlinked nowadays that the football side loses respect, reputation etc (I mean English football, footie in general, not just Leeds) because of a business rule. In the business world, Master Bates and Co have not done anything wrong. But it is about money to them and not the reputation of Leeds or English footie.

We all agree with that mate.

The Q about when 10 points should be deducted is a messy one, and not one that can be satisifed easily. I know I've tried, the only way to stop this mis-management is to do to clubs what was done to Swindon many years ago - relegate them.

I realise Leeds are down already, but it would be another relegation in L2 in this case. I believe Swindon went down an extra division or something due to some financial problem - though i cannot remember the details.

While I agree, it won't happen as long as I have a hole in my backside. Swindon were to be relegated from the First Division to the Third, having already achieved promotion to the First via the play offs, but were allowed to stay in the Second Division. Therefore, they were effectively relegated in pre-season to where they'd come from.

There were umpteen illegal payments to players.

There is no effective punishment to Weeds in this case.

*_ash_*
05-05-2007, 00:50
With the 10 point deduction. I would love them to win 5-0 tomorrow and Hull lose 5-0. That would be absolutely priceless!!

I could see them scrambling to revoke the administration:hihi: :hihi:

happyhippy
05-05-2007, 01:25
With the 10 point deduction. I would love them to win 5-0 tomorrow and Hull lose 5-0. That would be absolutely priceless!!

I could see them scrambling to revoke the administration:hihi: :hihi:

Oh believe me, I'd laugh so much, I'd buy my own beer :hihi:

*_ash_*
05-05-2007, 01:27
Oh believe me, I'd laugh so much, I'd buy my own beer :hihi:

:hihi: :hihi: I think Hull should deliberately lose 10 nil. I think their popularity would increase throughout the world:hihi:

happyhippy
05-05-2007, 01:30
:hihi: :hihi: I think Hull should deliberately lose 10 nil. I think their popularity would increase throughout the world:hihi:

They don't like us too much in Hull as it is, but HOW I WOULD LAUGH :hihi:

Hopman
05-05-2007, 09:31
Slightly off topic, but

Teams are awarded points depending on how well they perform on the field. If they win they get three points; if they draw theu get one point. If they lose they don't get any points for that game.

If off the field activities break the rules, they might lose points. Why iare Leeds docked points for going into administration ( a legitimate business activity) but a team like West Ham who broke the rules are only fined?

Ousetunes
05-05-2007, 09:41
What would really, really make my year is this.

With L**ds going into voluntary administration and incurring the ten point deduction this season in the knowledge that it won't effect next season, for the FA, having studied the footage of the animals running onto the Ell*nd Road pastures trying to reach the Ipswich fans, to then deduct a further TEN POINTS with effect from next season!

Please, please, please, FA, do something that I for once would actually agree with.

And also, for Ken B*tes to then buy the club back out of administation, apart from surely being illegal (director of an insolvent business can't be a director of another business for a number of years?) it's comforting to know that L**ds are literally jumping out of the frying pan into the fire!!

Hope the club folds when the Inland Revenue come asking for their money.

JFKvsNixon
05-05-2007, 09:59
Slightly off topic, but

Teams are awarded points depending on how well they perform on the field. If they win they get three points; if they draw theu get one point. If they lose they don't get any points for that game.

If off the field activities break the rules, they might lose points. Why iare Leeds docked points for going into administration ( a legitimate business activity) but a team like West Ham who broke the rules are only fined?

It wasn't deemed fair that some teams went into administration to avoid paying their debts, when other teams sold off their best players to pay off their debts. It also wasn't deemed fair that some teams were run well and signed players within their budget, and struggled on the pitch. Other teams ran up huge debts to sign star players and were successful on the pitch.

KJ_VENOM
05-05-2007, 11:29
Leeds may have their problems but Ken and Dennis are still close as ever in fact Ken is going to legally adopt Dennis Mr. Bates and his son Master Bates :hihi: He'll fit in well with the supporters :thumbsup:

*_ash_*
05-05-2007, 13:07
Also slightly off topic.

When we [United] went down, and Wednesday went down, we just got on with it, a tear shed here and there.
But have you noticed in every news article, (and there are plenty of them) L**ds seem to be making out that these 'dark times' are
terrible,
unbelievable,
unjust,
"6 years ago, we were in the Champions League semi",
"we're too big",
"we'll have to sell our ground-boohoo",
"we'll I've already sold my house, my car and my Gran-sniffle"..
GET USED TO IT! You were crap this season, and your reward is the 3rd Division!:hihi:

saxon51
05-05-2007, 13:31
Also slightly off topic.

When we [United] went down, and Wednesday went down, we just got on with it, a tear shed here and there.
But have you noticed in every news article, (and there are plenty of them) L**ds seem to be making out that these 'dark times' are
terrible,
unbelievable,
unjust,
"6 years ago, we were in the Champions League semi",
"we're too big",
"we'll have to sell our ground-boohoo",
"we'll I've already sold my house, my car and my Gran-sniffle"..
GET USED TO IT! You were crap this season, and your reward is the 3rd Division!:hihi:
Or to put it another way, :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

*_ash_*
05-05-2007, 13:32
Or to put it another way, :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

ah yes, thank you

POST UPDATE:
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

:hihi:

Ally68
06-05-2007, 01:14
Let's celebrate! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHTj_WGCEw)

CHAIRBOY
03-07-2007, 21:14
What would really, really make my year is this.

With L**ds going into voluntary administration and incurring the ten point deduction this season in the knowledge that it won't effect next season, for the FA, having studied the footage of the animals running onto the Ell*nd Road pastures trying to reach the Ipswich fans, to then deduct a further TEN POINTS with effect from next season!

Please, please, please, FA, do something that I for once would actually agree with.

And also, for Ken B*tes to then buy the club back out of administation, apart from surely being illegal (director of an insolvent business can't be a director of another business for a number of years?) it's comforting to know that L**ds are literally jumping out of the frying pan into the fire!!

Hope the club folds when the Inland Revenue come asking for their money.

Good prediction Sir! http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/07/03/SOCCER_Leeds_Nightlead.html

CorkerSWFC
04-07-2007, 01:19
Ken Bates has got Leeds in some right ****, the taxman is well and truelly after him now after his 1p a share rubbish, i knew it sounded too good to be true when he was in and out of administration quicker than a cheeta chasing a tortoise, The amount of legal action hanging over Leeds uniteds heads from what ive been reading could go on for years, Bates owes half of Leeds leading companys tens of thousands of pounds.
Leeds were mugs to take him on in the first place. Thats one thing i will thank Dave Allen for sending "father christmas" packing.