We were spared the perpetual nodding head of Straw.

Instead we were affronted by the aloof, snooty, 'I am important' 'close my eyes to the plebs' cocky little twerp Margaret Beckett.

I don't know which is the more offensive to the electorate.

BTW...Blair lied through his teeth yet again. :mad:

Originally posted by Lickszz


BTW...Blair lied through his teeth yet again. :mad:

Please enlighten us on this one.

14 out of 15 questions were lies and the other been a half truth.

whats the point with this charade,he doesnt answer questions when asked and if he does its lies anyway,i give up :(

Well, all I can say is vote with your feet.. or in this case the ballot in may.

If you dont like the leader, you boot em out!

Democracy in action.

Originally posted by RPG

If you dont like the leader, you boot em out!

Democracy in action.

The term babies and bathwater springs to mind.

Originally posted by Lickszz
14 out of 15 questions were lies and the other been a half truth.

Do you mean he evaded the questions, pretty much like you have?

Originally posted by max
Do you mean he evaded the questions, pretty much like you have? [/B]
Did you actually see PMQ Max?

Originally posted by Lickszz
Did you actually see PMQ Max?

No, which is why I'm asking you for more detail on what the lies were. Not that I don't believe you, just that your initial post was a little devoid of anything to justify your statement.

Max,

I'm not about to reproduce an entire list of all the questions. However, if you watch PMQ regular (as I do) then you will be fully aware of how good a 'spin' bowler Blair is.

I will leave you with the 1 half truth:

That there were no more troops going to Iraq......Well, we'll see!

And that the disbandment of the Black Watch had never been agreed. And if it was, it would be an army decision. Not government.

Well, it would wouldn't it, if the government were not going to pay their wages. ;)

Originally posted by max
The term babies and bathwater springs to mind.


A-Whuh wha?

Originally posted by RPG
A-Whuh wha?

I'd be very disappointed if the general voting public threw out a Labour government (viz the baby) given it's impressive record (see my post above) in order to get rid of T Blair (viz the bathwater).

The expression throwing out the baby with the bathwater pertains to a situation where, in order to rid oneself of something troublesome, one throws away something of value.

I know what the term means, but im still not sure why a Labour government is that precious, hence my confusion.

Fair enough we have a half decent economy, but thats going to change soon enough when we are forced into the Euro.

Plus theres a list longer than my arm (and possibly all the voting public's arms) of reasons why to ditch a Labour government

Originally posted by RPG
I know what the term means, but im still not sure why a Labour government is that precious, hence my confusion.

Fair enough we have a half decent economy, but thats going to change soon enough when we are forced into the Euro.

Plus theres a list longer than my arm (and possibly all the voting public's arms) of reasons why to ditch a Labour government

We're not going to join the Euro without a referendum, so-one's going to force anyone. (Unlike certain other parties who will not allow the public to have a vote on the matter)

Funny how I can produce a list of achievements but no-one can produce this arm's length list of reasons. :confused:

Originally posted by max
We're not going to join the Euro without a referendum, so-one's going to force anyone. (Unlike certain other parties who will not allow the public to have a vote on the matter)


I still wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a referendum on the Euro though. What happened to a referendum on the EU Constitution?

Originally posted by t020
I still wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a referendum on the Euro though.

You still expect the tories to win? They are only ones who have decided unilaterally what's best for the British people, that really is nanny statehood.


Originally posted by t020
What happened to a referendum on the EU Constitution?

A number of countries, including France and the UK, will hold public votes, with the first vote expected to take place in Spain in February.
On Friday, UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said a referendum on the EU constitution in the UK would take place "early in 2006" if the ruling Labour Party won a third term in office.

From The BBC: BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3963701.stm)

There was no point in having a referendum before the signing of the constitution as we wouldn't have known it's content.

Originally posted by max

There was no point in having a referendum before the signing of the constitution as we wouldn't have known it's content.

I don't understand what the point was in signing it before a referendum then. What exactly were we signing for? To say that we agree to it so long as the referendum returns a Yes vote? And why does it need to be signed to see the content?