Without sounding too controversial what are peoples views on pram free hours or days at Meadowhall.

Some of the shops you can,t move for them.....Poundland attracted a lot of attention.

Hmmmm. Having had two children I can only say that parents have a right to shop where they like. Why not criticise the shops for not having enough space rather than the parents?

I personally avoid Meadowhell as I don't like the place at all but each to their own.

Are you trying to say that all parents with prams shop at Poundland? or trying to incinuate something?

Not contraversial, just a bit discriminating

sorry but i adore kids BUT generally people who have young children, dont tend to work, which means they have all blooming day to go to meadowhell. do why do they go at the weekend?? that includes pensioners

The main problem is not pushchairs, but people who don't look where they are going. They think becasue it is a shopping centre, they can go around just looking in shop windows in a different direction they are walking, and then they are surprised when they walk into people!!

what is wrong with these fools!!!

It would also help if each pram wasn't the size of a Transit van.

If you have two or more children, one of which is in a pram, it is very difficult for a mother to go shopping to meadowhall by herself. This is why it fills up at weekends when both parents can go. You could ask why 'child free' people don't just go in the evening when children are in bed.

Personally, I avoid meadowhall like the plague so have no pity for people that get run over by prams.

theres a creche

If you go in the week, out of School Hols it isn't too bad a place to shop. Weekends I cannot understand why anyone would want to go there, it takes any pleasure out of shopping when you have to shoulder your way through crowds all day.

Originally posted by Yodameister
The main problem is not pushchairs, but people who don't look where they are going. They think becasue it is a shopping centre, they can go around just looking in shop windows in a different direction they are walking, and then they are surprised when they walk into people!!

what is wrong with these fools!!!

You should see them driving their 'little prams' around town. When i drive the Bus past Primark you have to be extra careful due to mothers pushing there prams into the road without looking.I had one near miss with a pram whose mother was on the mobile phone.And i saw another near miss last week involving another bus,the mother just stuck one finger up to the driver and blamed him! Mind you with the size of the Prams now adays the Bus would come of worse!

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
sorry but i adore kids BUT generally people who have young children, dont tend to work, which means they have all blooming day to go to meadowhell. do why do they go at the weekend?? that includes pensioners

How very unthinking of you.

People who have children don't work????? And spend all day in Meadowhall??????

I must be the exeption to the rule! and all my friends. Maybe it is just the people YOU know.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by unners
You should see them driving their 'little prams' around town. When i drive the Bus past Primark you have to be extra careful due to mothers pushing there prams into the road without looking.I had one near miss with a pram whose mother was on the mobile phone.And i saw another near miss last week involving another bus,the mother just stuck one finger up to the driver and blamed him! Mind you with the size of the Prams now adays the Bus would come of worse!

maybe they should make it an offence to use your mobile whilts "driving" a pram!!

i said GENERALLY people who have kids dont work, or maybe they go back part time. why would you wanna take ur kids to mhall on sat/sun anyway? its a nightmare for them too - they are always screaming and crying, at least let em go play in creche or take em to brewsters

Natalie - the creche at Meadowhall is for people who work there. The play area near one of the entrances isn't just for dumping children. And anyway, children in prams are not old enough to be left in a creche.

For someone who claims to adore kids you appear to know nothing about them.

the creche is a wonderful place...I used to take the kids there. I also stayed out of the shop with narrow isles...the shops loose out I won't spend my money if I cannot get in.

I remember in my teens having a very embarrasing moment in BHS whilst pushing my cousin...the pram managed to pull off a full rail of bras ...trust me to a 12 year old that is embarrasing. I think I was scared for life.

Moon

ouch! i presumed the creche for for anyone to leave their kids there for a while for quiet shopping. id forgot about playareas. and yes i do love kids, gees i still am one! but how can anyone enjoy shopping when ur kids are crying and hot and bothered and just want to play or eat ice cream - its not fair on them either! and i wouldnt use a dumping ground anyway, id take mine during quieter hours so they can learn to love shopping as much as i do

Send them to falluja they will come in handy for mine clearence!

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
ouch! i presumed the creche for for anyone to leave their kids there for a while for quiet shopping. id forgot about playareas. and yes i do love kids, gees i still am one! but how can anyone enjoy shopping when ur kids are crying and hot and bothered and just want to play or eat ice cream - its not fair on them either! and i wouldnt use a dumping ground anyway, id take mine during quieter hours so they can learn to love shopping as much as i do

How can anyone enjoy shopping at Meadowhall with or without kids full stop!

Which "quieter" hours do you suggest taking children to Meadowhall? Perhaps late at night when they should be in bed?

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
ouch! i presumed the creche for for anyone to leave their kids there for a while for quiet shopping. id forgot about playareas. and yes i do love kids, gees i still am one! but how can anyone enjoy shopping when ur kids are crying and hot and bothered and just want to play or eat ice cream - its not fair on them either! and i wouldnt use a dumping ground anyway, id take mine during quieter hours so they can learn to love shopping as much as i do

So when is that time? probably when children are in bed.

It is very easy to be judgemental about someones circumstances that you have no experience of. Like I said, I don't go there for the reason that I don't like it and I don't like shopping now I have children. Saying this though, I don't feel that people who do enjoy this should be discriminated against for the fact that they have children. Why not ban school kids from shops? They are all giggling nuicances anyway, who generally shoplift as they don't have jobs to pay for anything. Am I discriminating?????? and generalising????????
;)

quieter times are whe it first opens, cafes from about half 9 , shops at 10 - i think. and yes i do have experience of shopping with children - from two month old to screaming six. maybe its the parents that dont control them - if im generalising! shouldnt say control, thats wrong children should be free, but well behaved - ive had my fair share of probs with little buggers, so learnt my lesson - take em when its quiet so they can enjoy. anyway kids should be out playing footie from 3yrs!!!

If we are not allowed to generalise we might as well stop discussing 90% of the issues in here.

Whats the alternative, singling out of actual people for criticism. Now that would be unfair.

Believe me, my wife and I used to feel the same. We used to get so annoyed at the pram-pushers who thought it was their God-given right to barge through in a straight line, mowing down all in their path. We even, I think, talked seriously about the idea of suggesting "pram-free" days to them.

Since having two rugrats of our own, we've seen the other side. We hardly ever go to M'hall (probably 2 or 3 times a year) but as we both work, going at weekends is the only option.

You do *try* to respect other people's space when you are pushing a buggy, but I think some people just don't appreciate that they are unwieldy and it is difficult to get out of people's way quickly. Many people are inconsiderate, too, and won't give you enough space, as well as letting doors swing back in your face. Until you've tried it, you don't appreciate how hard it is to lug a buggy round everywhere and keep the child entertained - and to get it up and down a non-level surface into a shop. (OK, not at M'hall, as it's flat, but it applies in town.)

people are inconsiderate i agree, esp people who smoke (when its not allowed) in mhall - hands obviously at baby face in pram level. not good. the shops should be prams friendly too, or have little play areas/seating for knacked parents to chill for a sec(republic/best etc do).
thank god for internet shopping!

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
theres a creche

sorry are you a parent ?
Not all people like to leave there children with totel strangers ..

Originally posted by unners
You should see them driving their 'little prams' around town. When i drive the Bus past Primark you have to be extra careful due to mothers pushing there prams into the road without looking.I had one near miss with a pram whose mother was on the mobile phone.And i saw another near miss last week involving another bus,the mother just stuck one finger up to the driver and blamed him! Mind you with the size of the Prams now adays
the Bus would come of worse!

plaese can you change that to some mothers .....

have you seen the creche? its great and im sorry but will ur child be attending school?

Natt, there is a difference between education (which is law) and choosing to leave children (at a younger than school age) with a stranger!

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
i said GENERALLY people who have kids dont work, or maybe they go back part time. why would you wanna take ur kids to mhall on sat/sun anyway? its a nightmare for them too - they are always screaming and crying, at least let em go play in creche or take em to brewsters


just like to add i am a mother of two and have worked scince i was 16 with the break to have baby ....
me and my partners have the kids in turn he works days i work evenings so when you see people in the day with there kids why do u just think oh they dont work i work so my kids get every thing they want ...
so please dont judge ...
p.s. whats wrong if you cant work as you have a baby and no 0one to help look after the baby ..
If you are a aprent you would know its a fulltime job in its self

honey chill out wasnt judging. creche have to BY LAW have qualified staff. so are fully capable of caring for your babes. im happy for you working, good luck cos nowadays you need it!

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
have you seen the creche? its great and im sorry but will ur child be attending school?

yes my son is at school thats is why i want to spend as much time with him as possible...
I dont thik you will understand untill you have had kids the love you have for them ,
Yes i am very protective with my kids
yes they are very well behaved
and yes i use a buggy in medowhall (good job cause people would only complain when you letting a one year old walk around meadow hall holding eveyone up )
So any way whats you views on well chairs is it the same peps

Originally posted by bonny
Natt, there is a difference between education (which is law) and choosing to leave children (at a younger than school age) with a stranger!

thanks you must be a parent

Anyway, if prams should be banned or only used at certain times. Why not go the whole hog and ban wheelchairs too?

Originally posted by bonny
Anyway, if prams should be banned or only used at certain times. Why not go the whole hog and ban wheelchairs too?

could not have said it better :clap: :clap: :clap:

A simple solution to the M1 like conditions in Meadowhall where prams veer dangerously across the way into your side, or tailgate you up the jacksie, or run over your foot, or pull out from a store doorway into your face without looking, and who always fail to indicate their intended direction....

LEAVE THE RUG RATS WITH GRANDMA OR AUNTIE FOR A FEW HOURS...

shopping will be so much easier.

sorry excuse me for not having children of my own, im just saying prams generally can get annoying - for everyone, not just kid free people or the child, but parents too. ive nothing against parents and prams, but things could be made easier or avoided! gees!

I knew this was a can of worms when I posted the original question but some good views from all parties.
I believe the only answer is to have a rota

Monday / Tuesdays - Pram only days

Wednesday / Thursdays - Chav and shoplifting days

Friday - disabled days

Saturday - Women only days at no time should a husband or boyfriend be made to walk around with female partner.

Sunday - Free for all mayhem

If I have missed any group I feel sure you will let me know

People with pushchairs and/or kids seem to think they rule the world. Thery push the pushchair into the road..First! .. in order to cross... and storm about as if the world owes them a living in shops, supermarkets, anywhere running into you and expecting you to shift..and are suprised when you dont have eyes in the backof your head.! They are rude, un curteous and ignorent..all classess, all ages. Just because they have kids it does not make them VIP ....

....Rant over .

mayhem men days on a sunday?? cos boys are as bad as girls

I'm so glad to be single again. I used to hate the Saturday juant around meadowhell for 3hrs. I felt like death when i used to go to work on a Sat night.

annoys me when pram pushers cross the road and stick baby out first, poor kid must be frightened to death, happens all the time near where i work

Originally posted by stoatboy
I knew this was a can of worms when I posted the original question but some good views from all parties.
I believe the only answer is to have a rota

Monday / Tuesdays - Pram only days

Wednesday / Thursdays - Chav and shoplifting days

Friday - disabled days

Saturday - Women only days at no time should a husband or boyfriend be made to walk around with female partner.

Sunday - Free for all mayhem

If I have missed any group I feel sure you will let me know

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

i have a mate who uses a wheel chair and she prefers quieter times too - mmmm

Originally posted by cruella
People with pushchairs and/or kids seem to think they rule the world. Thery push the pushchair into the road..First! .. in order to cross... and storm about as if the world owes them a living in shops, supermarkets, anywhere running into you and expecting you to shift..and are suprised when you dont have eyes in the backof your head.! They are rude, un curteous and ignorent..all classess, all ages. Just because they have kids it does not make them VIP ....

....Rant over .
Well there's nothing like a generalisation to get peoples back up is there!
I have a pushchair.. a double at that since both my kids are under two. I only cross on busy roads where there is a crossing and always wait for the traffic to stop so we are all safe ESPECIALLY

Originally posted by stoatboy
I knew this was a can of worms when I posted the original question but some good views from all parties.
I believe the only answer is to have a rota

Monday / Tuesdays - Pram only days

Wednesday / Thursdays - Chav and shoplifting days

Friday - disabled days

Saturday - Women only days at no time should a husband or boyfriend be made to walk around with female partner.

Sunday - Free for all mayhem

If I have missed any group I feel sure you will let me know
thats unbeliveable well you know what it is more anoying when people just sand and talk in the middle of the walk way and like i said soes that include wheel chairs ??

(sorry pressed the return button too soon in my rage!)
ESPECIALLY.. the kids. I know prams are a nightmare and am always courteous to people who are kind enough to move for us... otherwise we just stay behind them.
And the reason so many prams go to Meadowhall is because there are no doors on shops or stairs so it makes life much easier!

annoys me when people ram pushchairs into you cos they are looking the other way, or when prampushers walk side by side - maybe ill just fly over you.
and when its quieter, passerbys can enjoy children too. kids are happier, parents are happier and we can see happy children that we "arrrrrrrr" at.

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
annoys me when people ram pushchairs into you cos they are looking the other way, or when prampushers walk side by side - maybe ill just fly over you.
and when its quieter, passerbys can enjoy children too. kids are happier, parents are happier and we can see happy children that we "arrrrrrrr" at.

but the thing is you are putting everyone under the same catogry i go to meadowhall about once a month and then i am usally in and out but what i dont agree on is haveing a certain time to go so what was it mon tues for us with pram well i get paid on thursday so might like to go then but might be working anyway i work 5 out of 7 so every week its diffrent so who wins there

i am not putting people in cats!! and i think he was taking mick with timetable! chill out little fish xx

calm down everyone, i know buggys prams & pushchairs can be a night mare but for some people its the only option, i dont have kids myself but always been around them, both my sister have kids, my eldist sister had her first when i was 10. i love to push the buggy & yeah some shops dont think about mothers & prams & shopping is a nightmare with a buggy, you cant look at anything, when your in a shop & want to look at an item you have to stop teh buggy & place it where people can get past but so the child cant be pulling at items, but shops wouldnt be able to sell anything if they made them completley buggy friendly!

the only thing that botheres me about them is that people ram them into your ankles & heals.....

what gets at me more, really windes me up, i find this a much bigger problem in murderhell than buggys, is people just stopping infrount of you for no given reason. you'll be walking along & the person in frount just stops & you walk straight in to the back of em, you'll say sorry & they give you this dirty look as if to say watch what you doing when i didnt even wana walk in to the back of them in the first place!

i hate the amount of blooming teenage kids in mhell just hanging, smoking, getting in way, (im leaving myself open again arent i?)

Originally posted by stoatboy
I knew this was a can of worms when I posted the original question but some good views from all parties.
I believe the only answer is to have a rota

Monday / Tuesdays - Pram only days

Wednesday / Thursdays - Chav and shoplifting days

Friday - disabled days

Saturday - Women only days at no time should a husband or boyfriend be made to walk around with female partner.

Sunday - Free for all mayhem

If I have missed any group I feel sure you will let me know

You missed gay day and ethnic minority day. not to mention AIDS day, cancer day - I could go on ;)

Personally, having tried to be polite and let people go ahead of me when I have the pram, I've found out it doesn't work. People take advantage and the pram (plus child) gets knocked about.

I know take great pleasure pushing the three wheelr with the front wheel up at groin level if I feel my child is in danger. Works a treat and people can complian / whinge / generalise however much they like. If you have children you understand that you will take whatever steps necessary to protect your child.

End of thread...screw you guys...I'm going home.:clap:

Originally posted by ladyovmanor
plaese can you change that to some mothers .....

I stand corrected.

Haven't pushed one around there for a long while now - but my eldest was a baby when Meadowhall first opened and it was a blessing after shopping in town - no kerbs to negotiate, no steps up in to shops, no bumps that threatened to shake the pram / pushchair to bits, and best of all for me as a bloke - parent and baby changing facilities - everywhere in the city centre was mother and baby.

Did somebody really think my rota for meadowhall was a serious solution?
Or did I just dream it? Must have surely.

Im Amazed

Just read the initial post. What kind of person would suggest such a thing. You are obviously someone who dislikes children and i think you are a nasty person. You should be nicer.

for someone who didn't want to sound too controversial you sure opened a can of worms clever!

I've pushed a pram around Meadowhall and after that experience my young ones got a shoulder ride instead.

Now they are a little older, holding their hand is better but you always get some idiot in a rush who doesnt look below 4 foot. They always wind up with a bust lip before they do any damage. Sorry to that fellow but he deserved it.

I used to think it was so unnecessary for buggies to take up so much room (always in the middle of the aisle) until I tried pushing one with an occupant. Why do kids arms grow to three times their original length when they're in shops???

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
i am not putting people in cats!!

Good, I don't think a person would fit inside a cat anyway, unless it was a very big cat, a tiger perhaps ?

I don't know.

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
people are inconsiderate i agree, esp people who smoke (when its not allowed) in mhall - hands obviously at baby face in pram level. not good. the shops should be prams friendly too, or have little play areas/seating for knacked parents to chill for a sec(republic/best etc do).
thank god for internet shopping!
Yes thats a good point I have had many near misses with my children and smokers waving fags around willynilly. luckily theres never been any actuall burns (lucky.. for the smokers in question I am a very protective mother) I allways go to medowhall very early inthe morning to avoid the crowds and we only ever go when its unavoidable.. horrid place, but since it opened most of the decent shops left the town centre so sometimes a shopping trip to hell cant be helped

Prams can be very irritating especially when parents see them as a licence to push and ram raid their way through crowds not fearing what gets in their way. Of course there are caring pram drivers (hehe that sounds so silly) and you can't help having a baby.

What I find anoying though is when you see a five year old in a buggy because the parents find it too much hassle letting the child walk. This is terrible because the child will be reluctant to exercise and walk and there are options such as reins and going at a slower pace! If you think I'm joking, please feel free to check out the buggies (not prams obviously, but strollers/buggies) and how old the child looks in them. In the Castle Market area of town you see tons of mothers with kids that look like they should be at school sat in pushchairs, it's just wrong.

On another note, when wondering around town or Meadowhall is anyone else struck by how many kids are seen about with parents during the day that look about 6-11 years old? I know schools have Baker days and half terms etc but on any given weekday you see lots of kids like this - canthe paretns just not be bothered to get them to school??! I've volunteered in schools before where this is the case - parents can't be a*s*d to get them up and in on time so they let them bunk off and come shopping in town instead. Not a good attitude methinks but what can you do?!

pram free hours!!! why don't we just ban parents, and anyone in a wheelchair, old womens trolleys, and those little motorised scooters. or give them an hour before it closes or is that too generous?

if you can't put up with lifes tiny obstacles like prams in meadowhall then it's time to reassess wether you should be allowed in medowhall or out in public for that matter....at any time!

Yeah I think banning prams is a bit over the top, people just need to lean to be more considerate of

a) People who might be hit or run over by the pram
and also
b) Pram pushers that can't help having a pram for their kids

Basically if you have a pram just be careful with it (which I'm sure the majority of you are!!) and if not just avoid Meadowhall at busy times. Weekends there are hell, and when it's open til 10pm each night I don't know why more people don't go then? Obviously you can't always get a babysitter if you have kids, but why not do as the adverts encourage and leave the hubby/girlfriend/wife/boyfriend at home with the kids and go and shop peacefully for a couple of hours?

Heres an idea.. dont go to meadowhell in the first place.

Bloody prams are a pain in the arse you can't get past them no matter how you try,yes we ought to have a pram free day and then those of us who dont have all day to shop can get in and out quickly.

Originally posted by SaxonLeigh

what gets at me more, really windes me up, i find this a much bigger problem in murderhell than buggys, is people just stopping infrount of you for no given reason. you'll be walking along & the person in frount just stops & you walk straight in to the back of em, you'll say sorry & they give you this dirty look as if to say watch what you doing when i didnt even wana walk in to the back of them in the first place!

Amen to that. IMO:

- there should be a pram-pushing test, similar to that of the drivng test, which all parents should take following lessons which could perhaps be given by the health visitor. Anyone who doesn't pass, can't push the pram in built up areas such as shopping centres;

- On a similar note, anyone over the age of 70 should be issued with a couple of little lights to stick on the back of their coat so that they can indicate when they decide to take one of their sudden stop/turn/change direction movements;

- gangs of screaming teenage girls should be banned from all urban areas. Full Stop;

- Shopping centres should have lanes, one for old people, one for people pushing things, one for people who don't fall in to either of the first two categories, and a system of crossings should be introduced, along with a full pedestrian highway code. Pedestrian wardens should patrol the shopping centres issuing on the spot fines for anyone transgressing the rules contained within The Pedestrian Highway Code.



:hihi:

Originally posted by limpetboy
Amen to that. IMO:

- there should be a pram-pushing test, similar to that of the drivng test, which all parents should take following lessons which could perhaps be given by the health visitor. Anyone who doesn't pass, can't push the pram in built up areas such as shopping centres;
You could push things to absurdity and say that prams are vehicles therefor banned form beeing use don pavements, as are bicycles and Churchill Scooters.

Originally posted by limpetboy
there should be a pram-pushing test, similar to that of the drivng test, which all parents should take following lessons which could perhaps be given by the health visitor. Anyone who doesn't pass, can't push the pram in built up areas such as shopping centres;

Give it a couple of years and you will be taking the above said test :hihi:

Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
You could push things to absurdity and say that prams are vehicles therefor banned form beeing use don pavements, as are bicycles and Churchill Scooters.

Too right! Get em all on the roads I say

Give it a couple of years and you will be taking the above said test

Maybe, but I'll be a great pram-driver :D

Originally posted by stoatboy
Without sounding too controversial what are peoples views on pram free hours or days at Meadowhall.

Some of the shops you can,t move for them.....Poundland attracted a lot of attention.

I have no problem with prams in Meadowhall at any time with one proviso - they refrain from using them as battering rams into my heals. How many times have I been rammed by those damn things!! Rrrrr!!!

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
i said GENERALLY people who have kids dont work, or maybe they go back part time. why would you wanna take ur kids to mhall on sat/sun anyway? its a nightmare for them too - they are always screaming and crying, at least let em go play in creche or take em to brewsters

just a quick question nat will you be working when your a full time mum ?????

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
ouch! i presumed the creche for for anyone to leave their kids there for a while for quiet shopping. id forgot about playareas. and yes i do love kids, gees i still am one! but how can anyone enjoy shopping when ur kids are crying and hot and bothered and just want to play or eat ice cream - its not fair on them either! and i wouldnt use a dumping ground anyway, id take mine during quieter hours so they can learn to love shopping as much as i do

Or will you be leaving it in a chreche all the time
this is not a dig i just wondered if u feel diffrently now your a mum to be ???

Originally posted by limpetboy
Amen to that. IMO:

- Shopping centres should have lanes, one for old people, one for people pushing things, one for people who don't fall in to either of the first two categories, and a system of crossings should be introduced, along with a full pedestrian highway code. Pedestrian wardens should patrol the shopping centres issuing on the spot fines for anyone transgressing the rules contained within The Pedestrian Highway Code.

:hihi:

Limpetboy just about had it then! Meadowhell should have road lanes painted on the floors with give way junctions, parking spaces next to shops and a fast lane down the middle for none pushchair/wheelchair users.
Lifts should be reserved for wheelchair/pushchair use ONLY! And anyone who contravenes the 'People Traffic Regulations Act' gets pulled over by the lane police and shown the nearest exit.
Also, the lane police will have priority over the fast lanes when the light on their helmets is flashing.

On Sunday evenings, they should have a 'racing night only' whereby only the people, pushchairs and wheelchairs that can travel continuously above 5mph (unless within a shop) are allowed to shop...

I have been a victim of maniac wheelchair driving in Hell and was lucky not to lose a leg as a result! (Okay so it was only a scratch but it could have been much, much worse!)

Originally posted by royjames
Bloody prams are a pain in the arse you can't get past them no matter how you try,yes we ought to have a pram free day and then those of us who dont have all day to shop can get in and out quickly.

If you want to pass have you ever tried the saying "excuse me"! Ive got twins in a pram and although I am very curteous to other people if someone doesnt show me the same respect... yes I ram them!! Men especially think its a race in M'hall I understand the majority of men dont like shopping but they do not have to think of the prams as hurdles, therefore you jump over the front of my pram you get rammed! Hope to see you all in M'HELL!

Originally posted by Briano
I have been a victim of maniac wheelchair driving in Hell and was lucky not to lose a leg as a result! (Okay so it was only a scratch but it could have been much, much worse!)

I walk quite fast, and was overtaken by an electric wheelchair yesterday just by Argos. Time for speed cameras methinks :hihi:

I went at 6:30pm last night - place was empty and always is on a monday night - hence its the only time i go there. I got round for the 4 items i went to get in about an hour.

I know what a nightmare it can be shopping with a push chair as i have had children and one of mine uses a wheelchair .I dont go to meadowhall at weekend for the lack of space and car parking.If shops made better access and wider aisles it would help.I have had people step over the wheelchair as if its not there and my son is sat inside it. We have to wait to go in the lifts as people cant be bothered to use the stairs or escalators.People tut at you for getting in the way even though your trying your best not too and are polite and walk round saying sorry every two minutes to people.Its not the vehicles thats a problem but the lack of common courtesy other people dont give .