Does any one know if there were gallows in sheffield at any time and where they were?

I've tried to find out but to no avail.

Ive no Idea possible the old police station west bar now the fire station Museum or the old Court house outside the market. just guessing but might be worth trying.:D

Go into the Star bookshop- great book called "The Sheffield Hanged".

Most of those condemned were transportred to Leeds through the Wicker. Bodies were often brought back to Sheffield for either disection or gibbetting-gruesome!!!!

There was a noose on Spring Street roughly where the RSPCA is now.
A lotta criminals were topped there.:gag:

Originally posted by Cycleracer
There was a noose on Spring Street roughly where the RSPCA is now.
A lotta criminals were topped there.:gag: never heard about this before ,any more info please,didnt think they hung anyone here,always thought it was done in york or armley,leeds,very interesting.

Try and dig something up if i can.

There was a gallows in what was Burdall's Buildings - Hillsborough Barracks. It was on the mezzanine floor of what was the army riding school building (which is now the dole office with the tall arched windows. V spooky when I first saw it. Turns out to have been installed for a film set (and not taken away until the recent building development).

Wasnt there one near the arena, where the Noose and Gibbet pub got its name from?

nah there wasn't ever one near the noose an gibbet just something to pull in the punters. However the story relating to the highwayman is correct.

Originally posted by nuf_said
There was a gallows in what was Burdall's Buildings - Hillsborough Barracks. It was on the mezzanine floor of what was the army riding school building (which is now the dole office with the tall arched windows. V spooky when I first saw it. Turns out to have been installed for a film set (and not taken away until the recent building development).

Any idea what the movie was?

There was one at wybourn

Where at wybourn?

I'm not sure, I remember a history lesson from school about it. The reason they used wybourn was because you could see it from most of the surrounding area and it was a warning to other people.
Wybourn took its name from tyburn in london and the name changed over the course of time. the same thing happened in york. their tyburn was on York race course.
Sheffield also had a gibbet which was placed on attercliffe common which where the body was left to hang.

Originally posted by Cycleracer

A lotta criminals were topped there.:gag:



bloody bike thieves.........

Originally posted by carcrash
I'm not sure, I remember a history lesson from school about it. The reason they used wybourn was because you could see it from most of the surrounding area and it was a warning to other people.
Wybourn took its name from tyburn in london and the name changed over the course of time. the same thing happened in york. their tyburn was on York race course.
Sheffield also had a gibbet which was placed on attercliffe common which where the body was left to hang.

suppose thats where the noose n gibbet boozer got its name.......

i knew there was a gibbet on attercliffe and one on loxley common but they were for hanging dead criminals in as a deterant,a gallows is for executing criminals,never heard of one in sheffield before

There must have been one at "Broughton Lane" in attercliffe co,s they named it after the Highwayman "Broughton" who was hung there..so I've heard.

Originally posted by Timbuck
There must have been one at "Broughton Lane" in attercliffe co,s they named it after the Highwayman "Broughton" who was hung there..so I've heard.

As far as I know, there wasn't actually a gibbett there at Attercliffe/ Garbrook, although I could be wrong...

I always believed that , from at least the 1700's, that criminal executions mostly took place at York, or Tyburn /Newgate prison..

(at least until jeremy bentham's prison reforms, when the prison accommodation increased)

I thought that the pub that is now called the "Noose and Gibbet"was called the Enfield, previously... and that the Noose was only named so, in recent years, because of wanting to "cash-in" of the notoriety of the highwayman, Broughton, after whom I believe Broughton Lane was named...

PT

Originally posted by slh73
Wasnt there one near the arena, where the Noose and Gibbet pub got its name from?

anybody who is interested in this can see details here :-

www.made-in-sheffield.com/people/spencebroughton.htm

deecee

Originally posted by Timbuck
There must have been one at "Broughton Lane" in attercliffe co,s they named it after the Highwayman "Broughton" who was hung there..so I've heard. spence broughton was found guilty of robbing the mail he was executed in york and returned to the gibbet at the scene of his crime,attercliffe common,which in those days was a lonely strech of road on the way to rotherham,his body was coated in pitch to make it last longer,the gibbet was a steel cage,his wife stayed in lodgings for many years till his body finally fell to pieces,the gibbet post was taken by a local landowner and its reputed to have been built into his house as a support beam.

Quote:
Originally posted by nuf_said
There was a gallows in what was Burdall's Buildings - Hillsborough Barracks. It was on the mezzanine floor of what was the army riding school building (which is now the dole office with the tall arched windows. V spooky when I first saw it. Turns out to have been installed for a film set (and not taken away until the recent building development).

Originally posted by goldenfleece
Any idea what the movie was?

No idea - sorry, I wish I had asked around at the time. I was told it was set in a prison. There were other bits of 'film set' around the building including the remains of a high prison wall.

It wasn't a film it was a period drama if you can find anyone who worked on guarda security they probley be able to give you more information they had thier offices there.

Originally posted by Bikertec
It wasn't a film it was a period drama if you can find anyone who worked on guarda security they probley be able to give you more information they had thier offices there.

Was that a tv film then? Yes 'Garda Security' were in the old guard house right next to the riding school where the gibbet/noose was. They then moved into the building behind the riding school when that was refurbished. Not got any contact with them now though.

Anyone know what the period drama film was? It must have been made in the 80's.

I read somewhere the gibbet was about one hundred yards from the old Enfield Pub on Broughton Lane.

The last of Broughton's body remains were removed 18 years later from the gibbet.

Happy Days!

I seem to remember a TV film of Jack The Ripper starring Michael Caine where scenes were filmed in Hillsborough Barracks. Circa 1990 I think.

Ineresting site here.....

'The history of judicial hanging in Britain'

http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/hanging1.html

you are wrong there was one that use to stand at the bottom of broughton lane how do you think it got its name it was named after edgar broughton who was hanged where the builders yard use to be he also had a pub named after him the broughton inn what use to stand on the corner of broughton lane the arena carpark is there if you want to have a look at the pub photo have a look at a book called a wander up the cliffe by michael liversidge he also wrote another book called another wander up the cliffe it shows what attercliffe use to look like in the 50's/60's oh how it as changed I spent most of my life down the cliffe well from being born up to me moving when I was 10 years old and then moving back down to the cliffe when I was 13 yars old then moving again when they started to pull down the houses I would have been 19 years old then.

ok, so the information that deecee, supplied through their link, says that the highwayman, Broughton was executed at York, and his body was transported to sheffield for gibbetting.

he was hanged in April, 1792, and that the last of the gibbet was taken down in 1827, that's like 35 years!

goodness me. that's a long time!

PT

so what are you a post collage graduate who knows the finer things in life you would make a good candidate for the mastermind challenge with all that knowledge you have got shame you cant put it to good use instead of nit picking on this forum ok.

and your problem, precisely is...

what??

I was correcting myself, because I had said in a previous post that I did not think that the gibbet existed there.

Deecee provided a very good link, which gave comprehensive, and useful information, both about SPENCE Broughton, the highwayman, as well as the Gibbet and its location.

and, it's funny, you should mention Mastermind, etc... I often do very well in pub quizes, yes, that's true. All those brains, and beauty, too ... le sigh.....

Touchy, much, kev???? Naaah! surely not?

PT

just getting over from a big hangover what I have had since christmas eve and me touchy you dont have to shout and dont drag that chair my head feels like it is going to fall off you were right I was wrong sorry but we cant all have brains even photographers havent got much brains have we !

There's a pub in Laughton called The Gallows, on the crossroads.

I feel it may have been 'the site' of one

Nip in for a swift 1 & quiz the landlord about being well hung in Laughton? :hihi:

There was one at the bottom of Broughton Lane and Attercliffe Road.

Originally posted by gopher
There was one at the bottom of Broughton Lane and Attercliffe Road.

That is where SPENCE BROUGHTON the Lincolnshire Farmer turned Mail Robber was put in an iron cage after he was hung in York. His body then skeleton was there for nearly thirty years as a warning to others ( they should do that now) He and an accomplice robbed a young post boy of I think £1,000 a fortune in those days. Spence got hung and his co-hort went mad and committed suicide.
Broughton lane is named after him.

used 2 live on Wybourn, aint ever heard of one:confused:

Yes I heard about the Broughton Lane one when I was a little girl as well. I always hung on(no pun intended) to whoever I was with when we walked past. Wish I could remember more detail of just where it was but I can't and no-one left to ask now....just on the corner on the right as you walked from Attercliffe feels about right. Made me shudder just writing about it..I wasn't told who or why except that that's why it was called Broughton Lane.

The site of the Gibbet was in what was then the rear yard of a Pub called The Yellow Lion at No 59 Clifton St but in living memory a builders yard took over the site after the pub had long been demolished. The Gibbet had gone long before the turn of the century, so you would have to be over 200 years old to have seen it. The one outside the pub now (Noose & Gibbet as is it is now) on Broughton Lane is just a modern reproduction.
The Pub was originally called The Railway hotel.

Oooh no, I never said I'd seen it....just told that's where it was...I just had a very colourful imagination and imagined what it must have been like. I'm certainly getting on a bit but not by that much. :banana:

The gibbet mentioned was at or near the junction of Broughton Lane and Attercliffe Common. I believe was an article about Spence Broughton was in the Sheffield Telegraph - many years ago!

the gallows were around where the sheffield arena is

The gallows weren't were the Arena is - there never were any gallows in Sheffield. The gibbet was there though.

You need to understand the difference between the 2.

Gallows - a device for hanging people by rope by the neck until they were dead.

Gibbet - a cage or similar device for hanging the body of the deceased as a deterent to others so they didn't commit crimes either. As has previously been stated, the body of Spence Broughton was hung on what is now Broughton Lane (ie where the Arena is) for many years.

While I was looking for something else in the Archives today I found an article headed "Curious momento ". In June 1871, a Don China jug was sold at auction in London for £4. The story surounding the jug was that a group of potters from the Don Pottery at Swinton had been drinking in Sheffield, and were making their way home in the early hours worse for wear. As they passed the gibbet with the remains of Broughton's corpse still hanging there, they decided to throw a stone at the corpse. As a result the bones of two fingers fell from the gibbet, and they picked them up and took them home. Some time later, the pottery was experimenting with making bone china, and they took the bones, ground them up, and added them to the clay, which was used to make the jug. The article named the men who made and decorated the jug, so the story may well be true:gag:

Originally posted by algy
While I was looking for something else in the Archives today I found an article headed "Curious momento ". In June 1871, a Don China jug was sold at auction in London for £4. The story surounding the jug was that a group of potters from the Don Pottery at Swinton had been drinking in Sheffield, and were making their way home in the early hours worse for wear. As they passed the gibbet with the remains of Broughton's corpse still hanging there, they decided to throw a stone at the corpse. As a result the bones of two fingers fell from the gibbet, and they picked them up and took them home. Some time later, the pottery was experimenting with making bone china, and they took the bones, ground them up, and added them to the clay, which was used to make the jug. The article named the men who made and decorated the jug, so the story may well be true:gag:

The other story was that the finger bone was made into a handle but you have to ask yourself just how did they fire the pot without incinerating the finger bone.

There used to be a set of Gallows on Pitsmoor Rd. Billy the Kid was hung there, along with Frank & Jessie James, Calamity Jane, Butch Cassidy, the Sundance kid, Dr. Crippen, Frank Sinatra, The Acid Bath Murderer (forgot his name) the Cowardly French sniper that shot Admiral Nelson, Two lame Skegness donkey's and Ruth Ellis. There is a dozen more but I can't recall them at the moment.

the gallows were around where the sheffield arena is

THE gallows were not found anywhere near the arena, the were gibbet was found on clifton street in the back of the yellow lion.

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He was not hung on BROUGHTON LANE, he was gibbeted on CLIFTON STREET where the gallows were found in the back of the "THE YELLOW LION" pub.
for big important hangings, like Dick Turpin then they used york and armley, but the odd hangings were done in the area that the crime was commited.

juliediane

I have a book called 'The Unseen the Unsightly and the Amusing in Sheffield.
There is a print of Attercliffe Common in 1792 which has Spence Broughton hanging from a gibbet somewhere just behind The Pheasant Inn.

I have a book called 'The Unseen the Unsightly and the Amusing in Sheffield.
There is a print of Attercliffe Common in 1792 which has Spence Broughton hanging from a gibbet somewhere just behind The Pheasant Inn.

hi alevans
yes you are correct , clifton street is adjacent to the pheasant inn, [2 small streets away, the first street is surbiton street] and in the old days it would have seemed a lot nearer with not as many buildings unlike today.

I have a book called 'The Unseen the Unsightly and the Amusing in Sheffield.
There is a print of Attercliffe Common in 1792 which has Spence Broughton hanging from a gibbet somewhere just behind The Pheasant Inn.

I read somewhere that the Pheasant was built on the site of the Arrow, the pub mentioned by R.E. Leader, where the landlord made a small fortune from people coming to gape athe remains of Broughton.

Here's photo of the Pheasant as it propbably used to be in the 19th. century.

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s07046

Thanks for the pic, very interesting.
Al

suppose thats where the noose n gibbet boozer got its name.......
I could not tell you where the pub got its name, but it was nothing to do with the gibbett which was found in the back yard of the yellow lion. on clifton street. people just assume that broughton lane had some gallows but it never had. Attercliffe started out as fields and meadows with cattle and sheep, the only pubs were the old pheasant which was very small and the carbrookhall, which was the half size of the buliding.

Does any one know if there were gallows in sheffield at any time and where they were?

I've tried to find out but to no avail.
I do not know, one person with your surnname Fowler was hanged though about 80 years ago

SEE THIS ENGRAVING FROM 18th C (http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s13124)

Cows and gibbet on Attercliffe Common
Landmarks include; Carbrook Hall, Arrow Inn

I do not know, one person with your surnname Fowler was hanged though about 80 years ago

If memory serves right it was 2 Fowlers. Wilfred and Lawrence. There's an earlier post around if you want more info.

Bit more info here DavidRa. If your interested....

1925
September 3rd:
Wilfred FOWLER (23)

Hung in Leeds

Wilfred Fowler and his elder brother, Lawrence, led a gang of Sheffield toughs who specialised in instilling terror into local shopkeepers and generally impersonating the American gangster. Events that were to lead them to the scaffold began at the end of April when there was a disturbance in a city centre public house. Trimmer Welsh, the muscle behind the gang, was causing a scene with the new barmaid in a pub. He went to strike her for refusing his advances but was warned off by William Plommer. a former boxer. The two men squared up, and having no fear of the gang's reputation. Plommer beat the man senseless. On the following day. the gang. out for revenge, cornered Plommer as he stood talking to another former boxer, Jack Clay. The altercation ended when Clay beat Wilf Fowler unsconscious. This loss of face called for drastic action and the next day, the gang went to Plommer's house and called him into the street. A scuffle took place, ending with Plommer lying in a heap on the ground. The gang had attacked him with knives, chains and clubs, and he died from his injuries a short time later. There was an initial reluctance by witnesses to testify against the Fowler gang, but under assurance from an Inspector Sillitoe, who had been given the task of cleaning up the city, that they would be safe from reprisals, the police soon had enough evidence to arrest seven members of the gang on a murder charge. Their four day trial took place at Yorkshire Assizes before Mr Justice Finlay in July and ended in the death sentence being passed on the Fowler brothers, while three others were convicted of manslaughter. The remaining two were found not guilty. Wilfred Fowler was hanged alongside BOSTOCK by Thomas Pierrepoint, Robert Wilson, and Henry Pollard. Lawrence Fowler was hanged the following day.

The actual murder happened on Princess street on the top end of attercliffe.

Bit more info here DavidRa. If your interested....

1925
September 3rd:
Wilfred FOWLER (23)

Hung in Leeds

Wilfred Fowler and his elder brother, Lawrence, led a gang of Sheffield toughs who specialised in instilling terror into local shopkeepers and generally impersonating the American gangster. Events that were to lead them to the scaffold began at the end of April when there was a disturbance in a city centre public house. Trimmer Welsh, the muscle behind the gang, was causing a scene with the new barmaid in a pub. He went to strike her for refusing his advances but was warned off by William Plommer. a former boxer. The two men squared up, and having no fear of the gang's reputation. Plommer beat the man senseless. On the following day. the gang. out for revenge, cornered Plommer as he stood talking to another former boxer, Jack Clay. The altercation ended when Clay beat Wilf Fowler unsconscious. This loss of face called for drastic action and the next day, the gang went to Plommer's house and called him into the street. A scuffle took place, ending with Plommer lying in a heap on the ground. The gang had attacked him with knives, chains and clubs, and he died from his injuries a short time later. There was an initial reluctance by witnesses to testify against the Fowler gang, but under assurance from an Inspector Sillitoe, who had been given the task of cleaning up the city, that they would be safe from reprisals, the police soon had enough evidence to arrest seven members of the gang on a murder charge. Their four day trial took place at Yorkshire Assizes before Mr Justice Finlay in July and ended in the death sentence being passed on the Fowler brothers, while three others were convicted of manslaughter. The remaining two were found not guilty. Wilfred Fowler was hanged alongside BOSTOCK by Thomas Pierrepoint, Robert Wilson, and Henry Pollard. Lawrence Fowler was hanged the following day.

The actual murder happened on Princess street on the top end of attercliffe.
Thanks interesting living in Attercliffe in those days

It was called Little Chicago at the time.
Inspector Sillitoe went on to work with the Flying Squad (the sweeney) after developing the tactics in Sheffield.
The Sheffield gang wars has got the full story about what happened in Attercliffe and Sky Edge.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0950764507/202-1774989-0815068?v=glance&n=266239

Does any one know if there were gallows in sheffield at any time and where they were?

I've tried to find out but to no avail.

Yes...........On Broughton Lane, when it was just a country lane, a highwayman called Broughton used to rob passing coaches and people on horse back. He was eventually caught and hanged from a gibet. I believe the pub opposite the arena has something outside on these lines.

Yes...........On Broughton Lane, when it was just a country lane, a highwayman called Broughton used to rob passing coaches and people on horse back. He was eventually caught and hanged from a gibet. I believe the pub opposite the arena has something outside on these lines.

Yes, my Grandad told me that. It was a boozer called the Broughton Arms. It was Spence Broughton.

Some bugger pinched it though.

wadsley common a distant relative of my mrs was one of the last people to be hanged there!

Yes, my Grandad told me that. It was a boozer called the Broughton Arms. It was Spence Broughton.

Some bugger pinched it though.

What Depoix says, earlier in this, is almost exactly the way that my Grandad described. Spence Broughton's wife hung around (no pun intended) and paid men to get her husband's body back because she loved him that much.

There wasn't a gallows on Wadsley Common, but there was a gibbet. In the early 1780's Nathan Andrews was robbed & murdered by Francis Fearn, who was arrested, tried & hanged in York. His body was then returned to the place of his crime (Wadsley Common), a common practice I am told, placed in the gibbet on the Common, where it remained for 14 years. Charming. lol.

yep i remember Brougton pub. It turned into Alltools before they got new premises on staniforth road.

So was the gibbet at loxley common or wadsley common? And anyone know its location?

The report of Francis Fearn's case refer to Wadsley Common, not sure where....will try to find out.

Was there also one at Loxley then or was the earlier poster wrong? Wadsley is the one of interest to me really...

People been HANGING AROUND now too long on this post GIBBET a rest .

People been HANGING AROUND now too long on this post GIBBET a rest .

Definately a '' post libation '' post.

Nice one ! :hihi:

Does any one know if there were gallows in sheffield at any time and where they were?

I've tried to find out but to no avail.

yes there were gallows at the bottom of broughton lane near the arena a highway man called broughton was hung there in a cage to gice warning to others he hung there for i think 2yrs

yes there were gallows at the bottom of broughton lane near the arena a highway man called broughton was hung there in a cage to gice warning to others he hung there for i think 2yrs

bit late and it wasnt a gallows it was a gibbet according to previous posts in this thread, and hung there for like 30 years not 2 lol