I was on my way home last night via woodhead pass, but had to go up Holme moor as the road was close.

Does anyone know what happened?

no one?

well its a bad road and now been the main link between sheffield and manchester something needs doing to improve safety

Its only normally bad, because of impatient drivers who overtake on blind bends just to get infront of the lorry, only to find themselves stuck infront of another lorry.

Well said Skatiechik. I was driving over on Saturday night when it was really foggy with someone driving right up my arse. That gets me SOOO MAD :rant:. Yes I was going slow, but HELLO, it was well foggy. Grrr! (Sorry, yet another moan from me about the A628 and/or A616).

I didn't hear about the Woodhead being closed last night. Was it foggy or windy? I've been diverted in the past when a lorry was blown over when it was really windy.

..... only dangerous drivers.

Any one know why the woodhead was closed all day to day???

another accident according to BBC travel news

It was blocked last friday too, same reason....

It's amazing that in the 21st century two of the most modern, forward looking cities (well ok, one and Sheffield) are connected by nothing more than an unlit country lane.

yep made my day hell

A lorry shed its load.

It's amazing that in the 21st century two of the most modern, forward looking cities (well ok, one and Sheffield) are connected by nothing more than an unlit country lane.


Blame the Ice Age.

The planning commitee's back then hadn't realised that putting a few million ton of pennines where they did would hinder irresponsible & unsafe drivers of the future,

not much has changed re planning commitee's since.

I actually don't mind when there is an accident on woodhead, as it gets rid of all the congestion on the journey home

Blame the Ice Age.

The planning commitee's back then hadn't realised that putting a few million ton of pennines where they did would hinder irresponsible & unsafe drivers of the future,

not much has changed re planning commitee's since.

Although a bit further north they can throw a 6-8 lane highway across it, and even further south the A6 is a dual carriageway for a short stretch.

Another Accident on the Woodhead pass last night closed it for 5 hours.

It's amazing that in the 21st century two of the most modern, forward looking cities (well ok, one and Sheffield) are connected by nothing more than an unlit country lane.

M62 from Manchester. then go through Huddersfield and on to the M1 — not exactly an unlit country lane! I think you need to get out more.

M62 from Manchester. then go through Huddersfield and on to the M1 — not exactly an unlit country lane! I think you need to get out more.

That's a very long way round and usually slower than M1 to the M62.

The M67 was always intended to go all the way to the M1 just north of Sheffield following roughly the route of the Woodhead rail line then the current Stocksbridge bypass. See:

http://pathetic.org.uk/motorways/m67.shtml

http://pathetic.org.uk/motorways/m67-2.shtml

The proposed bypass around Mottram/Tintwistle has, by the way, just been kicked into the long grass - the public enquiry has been put back a couple of years and work won't even be considered until 2011 (it was meant to commence work this year). This is apparently because the road wasn't considered a priority for the north-west region in the current financial period (or maybe they didn't fancy a long drawn out public enquiry). Why only the north-west would be involved in decisions about a road that is of huge importance for south Yorkshire I wish someone could tell me.

Well said peterw - one can travel from Sheffield to Manchester almost entirely on motorways!!
The Woodhead and every other 'unlit country lane' should stay as such - don't think I want yet more countryside ripped up for yet more roads to be built, to then be congested in a few years meaning the road then has to be expanded or widened!!

Before anyone asks, I drive, I go everywhere in my car, but would rather sit in a bit of traffic and keep some countryside than have a clear run and great concete tracks blotting the landscape!

I ... would rather sit in a bit of traffic and keep some countryside than have a clear run and great concete tracks blotting the landscape!

Hmm... Tintwistle... Mottram.... unspoilt countryside... yeah right

If I lived in Mottram or the area I'd be seething about that - every time I drive up there I always think how awful it must be with queuing traffic past your front door for 14 hours a day.

It's needed a bypass for 20 years and it's horrendous in the rush hour, can't believe they've put it off again...

The journey from Sheffield to Manchester airport is only about 45 miles and should take less than an hour. Instead it can take 1 and a half hours easily, just because of that particular bottleneck.

Incidentally, by motorway it's 85 miles. Not exactly green, doing twice the mileage is it??

I grew up in Hollingworth, the middle village in Longdendale, between Mottram and Tintwistle.

Manchester - Sheffield traffic is not the problem. It is Manchester/Stockport - GLOSSOPDALE traffic that is. Lazy locals making short car trips mixing with long distance essential traffic. It isn't green to leave your engine running whilst at Mottram roundabout either.

Peak District NPA finally woke up circa Springtime and decided to object to the scheme. 17-4 members voted against it.

http://www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/index/news/news-display-page.htm?id=11990

Mottram Bypass doesn't bypass Mottram. It tunnels through the northern bit of the village, as well as through the showground. Mottram roundabout will still exist. Which means that westbound (Sheffield-Manc) traffic will still queue and tailback in the morning, when it will meet even heavier traffic from Glossopdale. Instead, fumes will still higher up the valley, making air quality worse.

Charley
http://www.gmroads.co.uk

M62 from Manchester. then go through Huddersfield and on to the M1 — not exactly an unlit country lane! I think you need to get out more.

My point was Manchester - Liverpool, Manchester - Leeds, Manchester - Preston, Birmingham, Lancaster, or pretty much anywhere is catered for by motorways. The M62 isn't a direct Manchester to Sheffield link, but the Woodhead and Snake roads are, and they're woefully inadequate.

Its only normally bad, because of impatient drivers who overtake on blind bends just to get infront of the lorry, only to find themselves stuck infront of another lorry.

Well said Skatiechik, you have just taken the words out of my mouth.
we always travel over the woodhead and i cant see where there is any bad parts. We have been over there turned midnight and cars and lorries just over taken at speed in thick fog and heavy rain, even when they cross the double white lines in the center of the road. My husband has been forced to break fast because a stupid person has pulled in front of us suddenley.The worst part over the Woodhead is from Tintwistle to Mottram with all the traffic jams.

Mottram Bypass doesn't bypass Mottram. It tunnels through the northern bit of the village, as well as through the showground. Mottram roundabout will still exist. Which means that westbound (Sheffield-Manc) traffic will still queue and tailback in the morning, when it will meet even heavier traffic from Glossopdale. Instead, fumes will still higher up the valley, making air quality worse.
Charley


From my experience, the worst bit seems to be the queueing that results from the traffic light controlled crossroads in the center of Mottram. This causes queues up the hill towards Manchester, and on the M67 going the other way, and that can be at times not in the rush hour when there simply shouldn't be a problem.

Now the bypass would cure that, but maybe there is a simpler solution, i.e. a way of re-routing the traffic that crosses the A57 main road so that the crossroads can be removed and through traffic not impeded.

There would still be queues at rush-hour, but as you say, nothing is a quick-fix for that.

I grew up in Hollingworth, the middle village in Longdendale, between Mottram and Tintwistle.

Manchester - Sheffield traffic is not the problem. It is Manchester/Stockport - GLOSSOPDALE traffic that is. Lazy locals making short car trips mixing with long distance essential traffic. It isn't green to leave your engine running whilst at Mottram roundabout either.

Peak District NPA finally woke up circa Springtime and decided to object to the scheme. 17-4 members voted against it.

http://www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/index/news/news-display-page.htm?id=11990

Mottram Bypass doesn't bypass Mottram. It tunnels through the northern bit of the village, as well as through the showground. Mottram roundabout will still exist. Which means that westbound (Sheffield-Manc) traffic will still queue and tailback in the morning, when it will meet even heavier traffic from Glossopdale. Instead, fumes will still higher up the valley, making air quality worse.

Charley
http://www.gmroads.co.uk


A great deal of the traffic is indeed local traffic, getting in the way of transpennine traffic. However it is the traffic lights at the crossroads that cause the queues along the half mile of single carriageway from the roundabout eastbound and the same queue up the hill westbound (is it my imagination or was the sequence on these lights altered about 5 years ago to impede east/west traffic?). These queues would no longer exist once the bypass is built. The roundabout may cause some tailbacks but much much less than currently and besides, the obvious answer there is to build proper sliproads, the difference in levels at the end of the M67 shows this was the original plan and would be quite easy to complete.

The way some people talk it's as if the locals are in the wrong for using their roads. Yes, it's unfortunate that a major trans-pennine artery runs through their towns and villages, but that doesn't give Sheffield-Manchester travellers any sort of priority.

Must of been another one this morning as we were sent down via glossop. Not sure what happened but the road is getting to be beyond a joke, something needs to be done!

And again last night had to divert and this time I found out why!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/5305116.stm

Must of been another one this morning as we were sent down via glossop. Not sure what happened but the road is getting to be beyond a joke, something needs to be done!

I think this one was a lorry spilling it's load of fertiliser just outside Tintwistle.

I work at the dog and partridge on the woodhead and one of the ladies who wortks there was not allowed up the woodhead from the flouch roundabout and had to go round via dunford bridge. It took her 2 hours cos of all the traffic!! The Landlord up there is chairman of the WAIT (woodhead against increased traffic) campaign and he went up to take some photographs of the scene, apparently there were 15 police cars, 7 ambulances, 4 fire engines and 2 helicopters attending the scene!

And again last night had to divert and this time I found out why!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/5305116.stm

"A Nissan Micra was overtaking ... " "The Micra driver, a 21-year-old man ... "

Surprise Surprise.. Another idiot overtaking when he couldn't and trying to kill someone. Shame he didn't get more than just a broken leg