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PaulTansley
07-11-2004, 09:12
This is not a thread about ghosts but do you believe in them and your views on your beliefs.
You may think they exist or not exist then tell me why you think what you do.
This is for an interview with the YPS on my radio show.

Please email me your views and I will put them to Jon from the YPS Friday 19 November on Sheffield Live.

cycleracer24@yahoo.com

If you prefer to reply on here then feel free.

CR

JoeP
07-11-2004, 10:12
I'm not entirely sure that I believe in ghosts as in wailing spectres dragging chains, but I do believe that there are phenomena as yet not explained by science that take place in certain locations that seem to be associated with people and objects that have previously been in that place.

Quite what and how I have no idea, but I do believe that there is enough anecdotal evidence around to indicate that some physical, spiritual or psychological events take place that are worth invesitagting in an open minded manner with whatever tools science and common sense can bring to bear.

Joe

miniminch
07-11-2004, 16:22
Your shameless self plugging for your (so called) show is almost embarrasing! This is the second one in as many days. Stop doing it! You have no interest in the subjects you profer, just interest in your own tawdry career. Leave it Partridge!!:mad:

halevan
07-11-2004, 17:58
Originally posted by Cycleracer
This is not a thread about ghosts but do you believe in them and your views on your beliefs.
You may think they exist or not exist then tell me why you think what you do.
This is for an interview with the YPS on my radio show.

Please email me your views and I will put them to Jon from the YPS Friday 19 November on Sheffield Live.

cycleracer24@yahoo.com

If you prefer to reply on here then feel free.

CR


Hi Cycleracer,
Ghosts and apparitions are a fact, for instance Roman Soldiers on horseback and Legions marching from 2000 Yrs. ago, plus thousands of testimonies from all over the World.

Energy, cannot be destroyed, it plays back over and over again, for eternity, some idiots contradict redicule and deny everything that they don't understand, they have closed minds.:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

mat1978
07-11-2004, 18:24
I would like to say Im fairly open minded. Having said that, if Ghosts go indeed exist - why dont we see them all the time??

By the law of averages you would guess that most if not all of us would have seen somert that we could deffinately say was a'ghost' if they really did exist.

I watched most episodes of most haunted and these guys have travelled to the so called most haunted places in the country - why havent we seen anything on camera then??????

Illaria
07-11-2004, 18:26
I believe in em cos Ive seen one and I think theres one in my new house cos every now and then odd things happen and i sometimes wake in the night to the feeling of someone touching my arm and when i open my eyes thers no-one there

mat1978
07-11-2004, 18:50
Originally posted by Illaria
I believe in em cos Ive seen one and I think theres one in my new house cos every now and then odd things happen and i sometimes wake in the night to the feeling of someone touching my arm and when i open my eyes thers no-one there

...but Ive had that, and heard wierd things etc - its funny when most of these 'unexplained things happen its when we feel must vulnerable or tired.

Just a thought

Mat:thumbsup:

Rich
07-11-2004, 19:47
I don't really believe in ghosts, but I'd reserve judgement on their existence till I see proof either way whether they do or don't.

ladyovmanor
07-11-2004, 19:59
funny that this post has been put up tonight ....
I work at the northen general and we have endless sightings from staff and patients ,
tonight one of our suport works has seen not a ghost but a bright light travel through the ladys loos !!!!!
there are so many storys i can tell but i will leave you this one that i find very scary .....
3 doctors were called to a paitent who was in resus and on the way running down the corridor they was stop by a woman who said please you need to help me all 3 doctors saw this lady but had to keep running , when they arived to the bed the lady they all saw was only the lady they had seen in the corridor asking for help ...
so all i can say if it take for you to see a ghost to belive then thats your views but dont knock it....i belive

Kermit
07-11-2004, 20:51
Why do people always assumes ghosts = spirits of dead people? What if they existed as a separate race of beings superimposed on our world, occasionally filtering through?

ANGELUS
07-11-2004, 22:32
I know this might sound nuts but my nephew who is 5 months old stares into a corner of my mums house and starts pointing and trying to talk to the empty space that is there.. also my mams dog and cat stay well clear of the corner too???

Anyone else's babys do this?
Would be glad to find out.

timo
07-11-2004, 22:56
Hi Cycleracer [Paul], I tend to agree with the wise JoeP on this subject. There is enough anecdotal evidence throughout human history, and from all human cultures, to justify a belief in the possible existence of such phenomena, as yet unclassified by hard science. I, like millions of people, have experienced what I believe may have been a ghost. The problem is that, as is usually the case, there were no other witnesses [save for my dog!]. The "experience" happened so quickly that I will never be completely certain of what I think I saw. I welcome all serious investigations into the subject, but so often cranks spoil it all by inventing or exaggerating things. My hunch, for what it is worth, is that the phenomena has nothing to do with "spirits" etc, and more to do with some natural phenomena which is, as yet, unexplained by science. Perhaps there is something in the theory that "ghosts" are "recordings" of the past in some way, which can be "switched on" by certain stimuli ?

Killian
07-11-2004, 23:09
What is all this stuff about subsonic noise or vibrations? Isn't that something to do with Ghostly explanations. I remember reading an article about it, but can't remember exactly what it said.

Ant
08-11-2004, 01:09
I'm with Joe and Timo for the most part.

The vast majority of cases of paranormal activity are almost impossible to investigate successfully - they tend to be one-off or infrequent incidents. The likelihood of setting up equipment and audio-visual recording devices and actually capturing evidence is slim, and very rarely produces results. Quite often it almost seems that the sources of apparent paranormal activity have a distinct aversion to being witnessed, let alone recorded. A plate, for example, is seldom seen flying off a shelf in cases of paranormal activity - usually it's a split second later. Auditory anomalies are far more frequent in paranormal investigations. So if it's so difficult to catch paranormal activity on camera, it makes it almost impossible to investigate.

The cases that grab my attention are the likes of Stocksbridge Bypass and the Cardiff Poltergeist, where many witnesses observe the same, or similar, phenomena. At Stocksbridge the witnesses were two policemen and two security guards, and in the case of the Cardiff lawnmower repair company, almost a dozen workers. It's becomes very difficult in cases like this to produce a non-paranormal explanation.

Stocksbridge is a good example actually, as electro-magnetic emitting sources seem to be a focus for paranormal activity. Stocksbridge's Pearoyd bridge, where the incidents occured, sits both above a sub-station, and underneath over-head pylons. It's been suggested that low frequency electro-magnetic fields may be either causing hallucinations in sensitive subjects - which doesn't explain the fact that the apparations reported by the witnesses seem to match closely in their description - or somehow temporarily changes the functioning of the brain, heightening it's sensitivity to "the paranormal", whatever that means.

I'm convinced that something strange is happening in these cases, but the big question is whether they are paranormal phenomena or shared hallucinations? Having seen a ghost when I was younger, I'm still torn between labelling it as a ghost or a brain burp. The jury is still out for me.

And where does the recording theory fit into this? It's a common (and in my opinion genuine) phenomenon, but it's totally different in character to these cases. There seems to be a wide spectrum of paranormal catagories that all have the same characteristic "strangeness", but don't seem to fit into any sort of pattern. The Otherworld seems just to weird for science to handle. And if there is an afterlife, why the barrier between the two worlds? Why design (if you believe in God) or why did nature evolve (if you don't) a multi-world system that keeps us in almost ignorance of it's higher level(s) until our own death?

Just given myself a headache. I'll shut up. (If quoting this bit, enter one-liner wisecrack here...) :rolleyes:

JoeP
08-11-2004, 06:06
Originally posted by ANGELUS
I know this might sound nuts but my nephew who is 5 months old stares into a corner of my mums house and starts pointing and trying to talk to the empty space that is there.. also my mams dog and cat stay well clear of the corner too???

Anyone else's babys do this?
Would be glad to find out.

The cats here will often appear to follow things around the room that my wife and I can't see.

We've always called the phenomena 'seeing Martians'.

Perhaps the 'less sophisticated' brain of a toddler is more open to phenomena than we are because the toddler's brain is yet to be 'trained' in what the culture around it expects it to see and not to see?

Joe

ladyovmanor
08-11-2004, 08:26
Originally posted by ANGELUS
I know this might sound nuts but my nephew who is 5 months old stares into a corner of my mums house and starts pointing and trying to talk to the empty space that is there.. also my mams dog and cat stay well clear of the corner too???

Anyone else's babys do this?
Would be glad to find out.

i have herd before that baby and young childern and also pets can see more than adults and it is aslo said you have to belive to see .....

Angel05
08-11-2004, 09:36
I like to keep an open mind...

When i was younger my school friend and i were walking towards a railway bridge down this small narrow alley way... We both moved so i ended up walking behind my her reason being as we were approaching the bridge we saw an old lady walking down the side that we need to walk up and wanted to make room for her to be able to get past as there was also over grown bushes in the way so wouldnt really be room for 3 of us to pass...

We walked past the bushes as we got to the bridge we noticed there was no lady... We both looked at one another and said 'there was a lady walking down here wasnt there?' we both admitted we saw her and thats why we'd both moved to make room for her to pass... We tried looking under the bridge in the bushes... There was just nowhere really she could have gone without passing us... If she walked back over the other side we would have seen her... she definitely didnt pass us... the alley was too narrow...

To this day i am still unsure as to whether or not it was a ghost... That school friend just so happens to be on Friends Reunited so think i will see if she remembers... i must have been about 12/13yr at the time...

Another time when i lived at my Sisters old place i remember waking up and seeing an old man watching over me... I am still uncertain if i did actually wake up or if i just dreamt it... he was grey in colour... I try not to think too much about it now tho...

But saying that... they had a black coffee table in their living room that happened to have foot prints on it... very strange as if a human was to put their feet where these prints were... there would have been a nasty accident... their book case in their bedroom was also moved a couple of inches away from the wall when they woke in the morning... *Shudders*

Spooky!

Strange but true....

PaulTansley
08-11-2004, 12:33
Originally posted by halevan
Hi Cycleracer,
Ghosts and apparitions are a fact, for instance Roman Soldiers on horseback and Legions marching from 2000 Yrs. ago, plus thousands of testimonies from all over the World.

Energy, cannot be destroyed, it plays back over and over again, for eternity, some idiots contradict redicule and deny everything that they don't understand, they have closed minds.:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: Hee Hee welcome back Halaven,, miss your threads these days.:hihi: :hihi:

PaulTansley
08-11-2004, 12:43
Originally posted by miniminch
Your shameless self plugging for your (so called) show is almost embarrasing! This is the second one in as many days. Stop doing it! You have no interest in the subjects you profer, just interest in your own tawdry career. Leave it Partridge!!:mad: Thats not quite true miniminch,, look at the other 2000 plus threads from me without quoting just two of them.
Its research and yes, its for my own self and I will be putting these views to an interview with the YPS which you will get the oppotunity to hear.
Lots of people use the forum for research and theres nothing wrong with that.
You may try chilling out a bit and if you don't want to be a part of it, then don't be.
Better still your own sickly almost worrying comments on your own garbage sensless bitter unfunny twisted threads need an overall to.
Don't be a hypicrite.

Bikertec
08-11-2004, 12:46
Hi what what time is this interview conducted and which radio station.

Many Thanks

PaulTansley
08-11-2004, 13:17
Originally posted by Bikertec
Hi what what time is this interview conducted and which radio station.

Many Thanks Sheffield live Friday 19 Nov 5-7pm.:|

Bikertec
08-11-2004, 13:23
Is that a radio station I don't know what Sheffield live is. ???

timo
08-11-2004, 14:29
Ant's posting makes a lot of sense. I think he is correct when he says that such phenomena is almost impossible to capture on film etc. Like Ant, I believe that I may have seen a ghost. Frustratingly, it was so quick and in the corner of the eye that even now I sometimes wonder if it was due to some kind of neuro-chemical imbalance [temporary]. The white flash in partial vision I experienced [Clough Field, Crookes in the late 80s], corresponds with countless similar "half-sightings" around the world. Indeed, M.R.James' famous ghost story, A Warning to the Curious features such a "corner of the eye" type experience. To be honest, I am glad that it was so fleeting because I am certain that I would be terrified if confronted by the clear, lingering image of a ghost.

PaulTansley
08-11-2004, 15:10
Originally posted by Bikertec
Is that a radio station I don't know what Sheffield live is. ??? Biker I have put the site under my signature mate.

Dude111
25-10-2007, 05:19
I have a friend who used to go ORB hunting and man did he capture some amazing pics with the orbs clearly visible (Spirits,etc)

http://navarrone.com/phenomena/faith.htm

(Click on a pic to start scrolling thru them....(VERY INTERESTING -- 11 PAGES OF PICS))

My Ques is: If camaras and such can capture these wonderfull entitys,why cant we see them with our own eyes???

This site HERE (http://theshadowlands.net/ghost) is interesting as anything!!!!!

Sound clips,etc........Every and anything you could want to plunge into on this topic.........

Im searching endlessly on here :)

Heres an awesome thread that some1 posted about thier experiences,looks like anuther site like shadowlands.net,very interesting

http://www.chatarea.com/StrangeHappeningsGhostAndHauntingsResearchSociety. m2391059

Very interested in the spiritual realm :)

BasilRathbon
25-10-2007, 08:18
Apparently some ghosts go through a really bad time after they've died and get really upset that they're not alive anymore. It's a recognised medical condition called Post-Fatal Depression.

A.M.G.66
25-10-2007, 09:56
When my niece was one year old (she is 25 now ) she used to jump on my bed. She often used to look in the corner of the room and point. We showed her a picture of her grandad with 10 other men.He died before she was born. She picked him out straight away. As she got older the sighting's got fewer but we all belive she saw him.

Dude111
25-10-2007, 11:23
Yup she probably did :)