Any1 else know about chaucer school? It's cr*p.

it looks like a prison

they lock the loos

they don't put the heating on (even now in winter)

kids are not allowed to keep their coats on in freezing classrooms

and get detention if they attempt to put their coats on - even when the bell rings to change class

Are other sheffield schools like this? Does any1 else think this is as appauling as I do? Health and safety must have something to do with this - anyone know?

They've had £millions to fix up the place, and they won't even put some heat on - oh except in the teachers rooms !

Kids are suffering trying to write with frozen fingers and getting colds and stomach aches - from the cold! Probably from not being able to use the loo too ! There was corporal punishment in my day - but we were allowed to go to the loo and they weren't locked.

What kind of draconian regime is this school being run under ?New kids are being made to pay for this school having a bad reputation in the past ! It's a shame on Sheffield.

Frozen fingers?,have temperatures dropped that much this early in November or am I having another hot flush.

Originally posted by island3rlara
Any1 else know about chaucer school? It's cr*p.

it looks like a prison

they lock the loos

they don't put the heating on (even now in winter)

kids are not allowed to keep their coats on in freezing classrooms

and get detention if they attempt to put their coats on - even when the bell rings to change class

Are other sheffield schools like this? Does any1 else think this is as appauling as I do? Health and safety must have something to do with this - anyone know?

They've had £millions to fix up the place, and they won't even put some heat on - oh except in the teachers rooms !

Kids are suffering trying to write with frozen fingers and getting colds and stomach aches - from the cold! Probably from not being able to use the loo too ! There was corporal punishment in my day - but we were allowed to go to the loo and they weren't locked.

What kind of draconian regime is this school being run under ?New kids are being made to pay for this school having a bad reputation in the past ! It's a shame on Sheffield.

I take it you are a disgruntled kid? You know so much about this - you must be.
However, the fact that you are writing in paragraphs might suggest otherwise.
One question, you said they only put the heating on in the teachers' rooms - were the teachers in different rooms to the kids in YOUR day?
I think you will find that it has changed since then and that all estate schools once fitted that description.

Or are you a dinner lady reporting from the front line!

And don't give us the BS that your kid has told you about this! A school kid hating school? well I never!!!!!!!:loopy:

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Before I went I heard all about the secret tunnel from Wordsworth building to the Halifax building. On the open day we was looking for it, it of course didnt exist unless you can tell me otherwise :) What is going to happen to the Halifax building anyhow, Is it right its not being used anymore ?

if you're talking about the building on the top of the hill adjacent to Halifax Road - then they are trying to sell it off to Tesco's to put a new store up there. Apparently the council are all in favour of this deal and is a reason why they were keen to thwart Asda's efforts to open at Middlewood. Seems Tesco are looking to put some community funds forward as part of the deal...

Originally posted by wadsley10
Frozen fingers?,have temperatures dropped that much this early in November or am I having another hot flush.


Oh, i quite forgot. I'm talking to some people that wear t-shirts to go out in a blizzard.

Originally posted by island3rlara
Any1 else know about chaucer school? It's cr*p.

it looks like a prison

they lock the loos

they don't put the heating on (even now in winter)

kids are not allowed to keep their coats on in freezing classrooms

and get detention if they attempt to put their coats on - even when the bell rings to change class

Are other sheffield schools like this? Does any1 else think this is as appauling as I do? Health and safety must have something to do with this - anyone know?

They've had £millions to fix up the place, and they won't even put some heat on - oh except in the teachers rooms !

Kids are suffering trying to write with frozen fingers and getting colds and stomach aches - from the cold! Probably from not being able to use the loo too ! There was corporal punishment in my day - but we were allowed to go to the loo and they weren't locked.

What kind of draconian regime is this school being run under ?New kids are being made to pay for this school having a bad reputation in the past ! It's a shame on Sheffield.

Was never like that in my day there. They always had the heating on in the Parson Cross Hotel :)

seems prejudice about parson cross is shadowing my comments, i don't even live there so i don't know what you're trying to prove.. i just never experienced anything like it and i don't agree with it, schools get about £k's per year for their heating budget i think it's just like this because teachers are kid haters, as are some of those on here :-) :-)

well as the teacher have to sit and work in the same rooms as the kids I'm sure the teachers would want to have heating too!

School rules are there to be followed. It is a free country if you don't like your school rules then go to another school I'm sure with your attitude no one will miss you.

Or you invest in a a few long sleeved t-shirts to put under your shirt, your'll be all toasty then!

I'm sure there is a rule that schools have to have thier heating on anyway before a certain date in the year, why don't you do some research then back up your claim.

Matalan do a good cheap line in thermal gloves.You could jog there on Saturday morning,the money you save on the tram will go towards the gloves.Seriously get a life,if you are still at school all I can suggest is that you should prepare yourself for a very big shock when you leave and join the real world.

[schools get about £k's per year for their heating budget i think it's just like this because teachers are kid haters, as are some of those on here :-) :-) [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, indeed. You are totally right. I'm a teacher and I'm prepared to spend my day freezing my ass off in a classroom with no heating just because I hate kids.

You have also uncovered a further conspiracy, where teachers spend the money intended for heating on champagne and caviar which we quaff in the staff room at break and lunchtime, whilst we watch sky tv in our individual massage chairs.

Your comments are laughable. I suspect you are indeed a disgruntled child, who has been put on detention for not doing your homework.

:mad: i disagree theres nowt wrong with chaucer school,its in a nice area ,clean surrounding,very polite people,well educated.
Back in the draconian regime days (which you can't remember)
if you was'nt up a chimney you'd be down't mine
shut up moaning you do'nt know you're born
eh,kids,who av em? :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

I belive that the top end of the school is now used for special needs children

Originally posted by Evei
well as the teacher have to sit and work in the same rooms as the kids I'm sure the teachers would want to have
heating too!
...why don't you do some research then back up your claim.

Ok, in some of the classrooms the teachers have their own little heated offices, while the kids get on with it, but of course you knew that as you always do your research Evei. Not least to mention that many of you feel in charge of the argument by labelling me as a child, although my opening post wasn't written as bait to you obvious intellectuals, to start a rally either in favour or against the entire educational system. I have found it is not the norm at Wisewood nor some other schools in Sheffield, so it must be peculiar to some schools trying to adopt a hard line. That's where it's laughable, and that so many of you jumped on the bandwagon of conformism, attempting to silence my statement, and deny it, the rationale being disbelief that it could exist in our angellic caring institutions, or that they shouldn’t be until you want your version of ‘fair’ treatment.

On the other hand I agree, I should have done more research, then I would have found that no-one in sheffield least of all on this forum, would ever question authority e.g. police, law, politicians, nhs or the city council. Then I would have realised that being in disagreement with or showing contempt for the petty rules of schools, would not carry much sway with such mindless plebs whose ambition is to perpetuate the status quo, and leave the important organisation in this town to the super brains and patronage of those giants like Tesco and Asda mentioned (sarcasm, for those of you who can’t keep up).

Instead I got one clear acknowledgement from franc.... who has been there, and one ‘what do you expect of such an area’ viewpoint. Still better than the tedious sarcasm rife on here from many who obviously have nothing better to do or hate their jobs but in this case got rialled up to defend them, claiming it's the 'real world' and justifying it to themselves with hackneyed phrases like 'shut up moaning you do'nt know you're born' because they've spent all their life putting up with this sort of sh**te and I smugly condescend a whole lot more probably as befits the small-minded.

Whereas being self-employed I am dysfunctional to that - AMEN ! I am fortunate that I can afford to move my child to a better school where they don’t think it’s necessary, and they’re able to keep control in more diplomatic ways. Also for that matter away from folk who’s parental or social skills amount to ‘shut it, or you’ll get a slap’. Implying that whinging about lack of heating and inequality suggests you might have special educational needs, is as pathetic as the writer is biased. I made a quick, accurate and empathic observation, so as for some of you getting on your ignorant high-horse - shove it, I haven’t got enough time to re-educate saddo’s.

:confused: whats the name of this so called "better" school then.
"millions of pounds to fix the place up" exactly how many millions and when?????????????
whinging,i thought thats what all us yorkshire folk were like,always whinging abaut summat from the weather to the cost of beer :loopy:

Heating is usually put on after the October 1/2 term holidays in schools.

If the heating is broken, and it really is way too cold to work, schools should be closed until it is repaired.

Have you tried speaking to the head teacher about your concerns?

:clap: a race night was held last night in the southey club with all proceeds going to chaucer school, tell me , is this towards the heating costs???

Kids are suffering trying to write with frozen fingers and getting colds and stomach aches - from the cold! P

There is a minimum temp allowable which if reached requires the H ead Teacher to turn the heating on/ provide extra heaters. I think it's around 18 C but it can't be that hard to double check.

I believe the rule is if a classroom falls below this temp on three consecutive days then heating (or extra heating) has to be provided.

So take a thermometer in :)

Are you a social worker who takes delinquents on super holidays.

I had the dubious pleasure a few years ago of going to and talking to a final year science class. I've got friends who live on Wordsworth Avenue so have some knowledge of the area.
After an 'interesting' lesson I was delighted to make my escape. I'm afraid the over whelming impression was of a group of loutish kids wanting to be treated as adults but unable to act like adults. I'm sure this is true in a lot of schools but think that the only way to improve the horrendous conditions is to bring back far more discipline and rules,. Locks on the toilets? I wonder why they've had to do that, let me guess lack of discipline maybe!!
I wouldn't be a teacher for all the tea in China, not in todays society.

Yes, fridgeman they did get millions to fix the place up, it was one of the staff that told me that.

Don't know if that race is going to fund the heating, if it is supposed to chances are it won't really, oh, now there's heating in the corridors, but classrooms are still cold.

I'll be sneaking a fridge thermometer in with my kid then, but chances are they'll warm the bloomin place up now, as it really is much colder outside so perhaps they can't avoid to.

Not all the kids at chaucer are or can be delinquent - my kid isn't, nor his friends ! In any case I'm biased against the school aswell due to the area, and as some of the kids look like they could be joyriding and torching cars after school or putting windows through, hence so many boarded up houses, but it can't all be the kids fault.

I started this post as I was talking on behalf of the new kids who are finding it a bit tough. They are paying for other year groups acting up. Bad behaviour happens, but locking the loos is discipline? Kids mess up school toilets at all schools, but they don't all lock the loos. In any case at chaucer they have cameras in the loos !!!!!! yes - not in the cubicles - but I'm still fuming ! That being the facts why do they then need to lock them aswell ???????

I wonder if talking to head teacher would change anything anyway, I got the impression he would worm out of the issue somehow, fob me off by saying it's not cold enough yet, but his office and reception are warm ! He popped up like Dracula one day, knew exactly what I was talking about to staff in reception, probably on account of the many cameras everywhere you go, I found him a bit off-putting for that, but kinda saved time repeating myself.

ok, whinge over I suppose, if they stick the heat on a bit, at least the kids can huddle a few radiators at break - like I used to at school.

:o island3rlara have you seen the thred started by "max" they seem to have missed chaucer out , wonder if theres a reason for this ,hey with a bit of look the school may go the same way as some listed buildings , you know how it goes the council totallt ignores a dilapidated building until it has to be demolished.

well as I work in a school I think I've done my research, so far I have worked in three secondary schools and all have locked toliets, I am pretty sure this is the norm.

Very often pupils have to put up with locked toliets due to a small minority who constantly smash them up and therefore flood classrooms. Schools cannot afford to pay a teacher to stand outside the bogs all day. It is not ideal I agree.

I don't have a heated room to sit in when the kids freeze, yes I have a prep room but that is the same heat in there, so I freeze with the pupils if it's cold. If I expect them to take thier coats off I also take mine off. My school has sent pupils home in the past when it got too cold due to the boiler not working but thje staff were expected to stay and work in the staff room which they stuck heaters in. ( I just stayed in my room because I did'nt think it was that cold)

If you have a problem go to the govenors meetings they will sort things out. There's no point coming on here because YOU the parent have to do something to change the school. Schools would love parents of good kids to support them and give them ideas and help change the attitudes of some parents who appear not to give a toss about their child's behaviour at school, and it's them kids that ultimately make the harsher rules be brought into effect that affects everyone.

Originally posted by Evei

If you have a problem go to the govenors meetings they will sort things out. There's no point coming on here because YOU the parent have to do something to change the school. Schools would love parents of good kids to support them and give them ideas and help change the attitudes of some parents who appear not to give a toss about their child's behaviour at school, and it's them kids that ultimately make the harsher rules be brought into effect that affects everyone.

Yup. Yup and Yup.

I too work in a secondary school, in Parson Cross area, and I whole heartedly agree. Sometimes, we really feel like some of the parents don't give a rat's ass about the school or their kids behaviour and it's just seen as somewhere they can send their kids to get rid of them for 6 hours a day. It's great to know that some parents actually care - please talk to the school if you have issues.

However, what does annoy me is when us teachers get the blame for issues like heating. It's as much under our control, as a classroom teacher, as it is the kids in the classroom. We too have to put up with less than ideal environments.

And to call teachers "kid haters" is plain immature. I'm a teacher and I don't hate kids. I became a teacher because I feel I can make a difference, particularly in a poorer area like this. So cut us some slck, please. It's not a job everyone could do.

Also, I feel it's more than a little unfair to label the kids as hooligans or whatever it was. Yes, they can be boisterous, and they are by no mean angels. But underneath all the crap that alot of them have to put up with, 98% of them are good kids. Some people take for granted their own experience of school and their background, but some of these kids encounter stuff every single day of their lives that the rest of us have been fortunate enough never to experience. For these kids coming to school is the only place where they can actually be the children that they are.

:| you know what they say "one bad apple" where has all the discipline gone, in my day you dare not move in fear of the dreaded cane, that kept us bad uns good (lol):P
look at the teachers nowadays, all bloody wimps the lot of em, the film blackboard jungle sums them up:D i mean why are we using kids to teach kids :confused:

i went to and left in 82 it was crap then somethings dont change hahahahahah

Originally posted by fridgeman
:| look at the teachers nowadays, all bloody wimps the lot of em, the film blackboard jungle sums them up:D i mean why are we using kids to teach kids :confused:

You cheeky git. I could most certainly not be described as a wimp.

Would be interesting to see how you would deal with a group of six foot yr11's who are hell bent on wreaking havoc...

Originally posted by fridgeman
:| you know what they say "one bad apple" where has all the discipline gone, in my day you dare not move in fear of the dreaded cane, that kept us bad uns good (lol):P
look at the teachers nowadays, all bloody wimps the lot of em, the film blackboard jungle sums them up:D i mean why are we using kids to teach kids :confused:

It's not a teachers duty to discipline the children they teach, it's ultimately the parent's job.

There is a lack of discipline today is due to lack of support at home. Parents used to be on the teacher's side of arguments, now precious little Bob, Billy & Ben can do no wrong. Their parents were probably just as badly behaved at school, so can see no wrong in it.

I thinkit's appalling that kids are having kids that is ridiculous to be honest.

Originally posted by Miss
You cheeky git.
Would be interesting to see how you would deal with a group of six foot yr11's who are hell bent on wreaking havoc...

i have no cheek :P
i would find it very interesting having already dealt with burly 6 foot 30 year olds who still think they are 12/13
why are they hell bent on wreaking havoc , i dont know "we give you women one simple job to do" :P

OH MY GOD FRIDGE MAN
TAKE A CHILL PILL OR DO A BIT OF WORK HAHAHAHAH

Originally posted by Gambit
OH MY GOD FRIDGE MAN
TAKE A CHILL PILL OR DO A BIT OF WORK HAHAHAHAH

Brilliant! Spot on mate!

[TAKE A CHILL PILL

:thumbsup: chillpill eh! is that what the kids at chaucer are taking,seeing as their complaining of being cold,they should be outside in shorts and vests running round the school fields, that'll keep em warm (and probably burn off a bit of aggresion) :rant:
miss: you agree with everything then :loopy:

i went to meadowhead school and i remember them locking the loos simply coz idiots were vandalising them with graffitti, blocking the loos etc etc but we were allowed heating!!!!!!!