It's on tonight. Well, right now in fact.

The first few scenes are quite sickening! It led me to scan IMDB to see why it won Oscars. I got the following:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/plotsummary

Having thought about why this movie was rated as one of the best movies in its heydays, I still find it shocking.

Do we need to shock ourselves in order to see it as "art" ? It seems the movie was controversial then, it is still controversial now. The sad thing to see is that, in today's society, some of these things happens now. Was the movie quite predicative of the future, back then?

What do people think of it?

It's on tonight. Well, right now in fact.

The first few scenes are quite sickening! It led me to scan IMDB to see why it won Oscars. I got the following:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/plotsummary

Having thought about why this movie was rated as one of the best movies in its heydays, I still find it shocking.

Do we need to shock ourselves in order to see it as "art" ? It seems the movie was controversial then, it is still controversial now. The sad thing to see is that, in today's society, some of these things happens now. Was the movie quite predicative of the future, back then?

What do people think of it?I thought that film was banned ?

I still love it but it's too distracting for me tonight. I read the book before i watched the film so I knew what was coming. It does glamorise violence but Alex is such a lovable character in a strange way - it is quite weird how it plays on your darkside.

Was it banned? It's being broadcast now on Channel 4. The scenes doesn't get any better. :(

[Added] Ugh. I feel revolted at the spit scene. The acting is way too normalised for its own good as a movie. >.<

Was it banned? It's being broadcast now on Channel 4. The scenes doesn't get any better. :(

You are watching it then ? :cool:

Yes. I have heard a lot about it, and I guess it's been so rumoured *is* because it's so darn controversially sickening!

I'm surfing online for some info, but only briefly scanning it as it's on in the background. What little I caught of the movie, I find it sickening. I don't think I wanna be fully concentrating on this movie.

Now I understand your online writing stylee. Maybe it's of that generation, but it's YUCK. :|

I find it a very dark film.

Has the aversion therapy bit been on yet? :wow:

There was a bit of copycat violence after the film was originally released, and Kubrick himself asked for it to be withdrawn.

I've read the book but never seen the film - I didn't particularly enjoy the book and so I didn't watch the film.

There was a bit of copycat violence after the film was originally released, and Kubrick himself asked for it to be withdrawn.

I've read the book but never seen the film - I didn't particularly enjoy the book and so I didn't watch the film.


I tried reading it when i was still at school and failed ( it's the moog language all the way through) so i read it again when i was at university and then again in my late twenties. I got the free copy given away with a newspaper a few weeks ago and so put it by my bed to read again. Haven't started it yet though. :rolleyes:

I saw it at the cinema when I was a teenager, but I find it more sickening now than I did then.

Some parts are quite funny, especially the stereotypical characters, like the prison warder (who looked just like Hitler) and the Irish priest with his hell and damnation sermon.

I think that Burgess did a couple of short stories that featured a similar setting as well.

It was the language and the approach to violence that caused me problems. Having said that, I've just finished reading a piece in The Times today about films like Saw and Hostel that would appear to make A Clockwork Orange look like Bambi. :(

I apologise Pattricia for stereotyping your posts like that. I definitely do find the film quite off.

I feel so nauseous just watching this film. It's the first time I feel so affected from watching a film. Even "Hostel" is not realistic as this at all. There's an element of falseness to it. Cos it is so farfetched.

This film is too physically graphic. "Hostel" was not marketed so prominently as well...it only came out in DVD format. I think. Before it went onto the cinemas.

Indeed.! :thumbsup:

I tried reading it when i was still at school and failed ( it's the moog language all the way through) so i read it again when i was at university and then again in my late twenties. I got the free copy given away with a newspaper a few weeks ago and so put it by my bed to read again. Haven't started it yet though. :rolleyes:

My English teacher set the book as part of our O level coursework. The film was released at the same time and we were encouraged to see it, even though obviously we were underage at the time, it had an X certificate which was not allowed for under 18's.

I thought both the book and the film were superb and still do.

Bago - perhaps you should have concentrated on watching the film and not run off to complain on an internet forum 20 minutes into watching it? Then you could have said you had watched it properly and then you I might have had more respect for your critcism. The film does have a moral standpoint which is still relevant today, but can only be guaged by watching the whole movie right to the end.

I thought that film was banned ?

It was never banned. This comment is from the imdb.

The film was withdrawn voluntarily by Stanley Kubrick from the United Kingdom after being criticized as too violent. Kubrick has stated that the film would be released there only after his death. It was.

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I feel so nauseous just watching this film. It's the first time I feel so affected from watching a film. Even "Hostel" is not realistic as this at all. There's an element of falseness to it. Cos it is so farfetched.



Realistic? Is real violence choreographed and set to music?

This is no criticism of A Clockwork Orange, which I appreciate as much today as when I first saw it in the '70s.

There was a bit of copycat violence after the film was originally released, and Kubrick himself asked for it to be withdrawn.

I've read the book but never seen the film - I didn't particularly enjoy the book and so I didn't watch the film.

I got the book as the first part of the "Banned Books" series in the Independent. That series has actually been a bit of a God(TM)send for me as 4 of the first 5 are books I either wanted, having read them, or the one I'd never read but seen the film.

The film one was 'Lolita' by Nabokov, and for me, reading it is more disturbing than the film, which I found disturbing in itself anyway.

The other 4 that I've received so far are "A Farewell To Arms" (not one for a summer's day), "Brave New World" (disturbing in its subtlety), "Metamorphosis" (I defy most people to read that and not see a part of themselves in the 'monstrous verminous bug'), and of course "A Clockwork Orange".

It's on tonight. Well, right now in fact.

The first few scenes are quite sickening! It led me to scan IMDB to see why it won Oscars. I got the following:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/plotsummary

Having thought about why this movie was rated as one of the best movies in its heydays, I still find it shocking.

Do we need to shock ourselves in order to see it as "art" ? It seems the movie was controversial then, it is still controversial now. The sad thing to see is that, in today's society, some of these things happens now. Was the movie quite predicative of the future, back then?

What do people think of it?

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My English teacher set the book as part of our O level coursework. The film was released at the same time and we were encouraged to see it, even though obviously we were underage at the time, it had an X certificate which was not allowed for under 18's.

I thought both the book and the film were superb and still do.

Bago - perhaps you should have concentrated on watching the film and not run off to complain on an internet forum 20 minutes into watching it? Then you could have said you had watched it properly and then you I might have had more respect for your critcism. The film does have a moral standpoint which is still relevant today, but can only be guaged by watching the whole movie right to the end.
I do not know what I find more controversial. The movie itself, or your direct response to what I wrote.

It does not matter at all how you find my criticism, and whether you felt that it was more credible or not, based on watching the whole movie. I don't treat myself so badly and make myself physically sick and vomit by watching such horrific movies. Yes, I found it horrific, even though YOU don't find it so.

I'm sorry but I truly disagree that it should be classed as a literary piece of work for the masses. Different people will view films and accept it on different levels. I've watched many films myself, and I am also sure that I have seen quite violent movies myself as a kid, but I don't even recall watching a film which made me feel physically sick. Well, thinking back, there was maybe another film, which had similar impact, and I had to switch channel. I think that was the Japanese movie "Audition". The scene with the wire was too much for me. To treat another human being that way just makes me physically sick to the stomach. As did the rape scene in this movie. Even the likes of Tarantino did the rape scene in his movie more tastefully by disassociating it from reality by using an anime style than this movie did.

Kubrick however went dark, and truly sadistic in this instance by going realistic graphically. Art? I wouldn't say that it is. If he is going for the shock element for publicity sake, then he truly has got that. Just because the music is on does not in my psyche, (which seems to differ from yours), disassociate the scene from being a rape one, of a realistic type.

I did not watch it by focussing on it entirely due to its content. I had to do other things to disassociate myself from the thoughts which the film insinuates. It does indeed dig into a person's deeper psyche. Sorry, but I don't think I want to be physically sick. Cos I found myself on the urge of vomitting.

I am indeed shocked that you were made to watch such a movie at such a young age, but there you go. You seemed to have enjoyed it more than I did. I'm glad I was not born at such times, and made to watch such movies.

Some things may be more sacred to some people than others, obviously. Life, sex etc. etc. :(

It was never banned. This comment is from the imdb.

The film was withdrawn voluntarily by Stanley Kubrick from the United Kingdom after being criticized as too violent. Kubrick has stated that the film would be released there only after his death. It was.
Rightly so.

I can understand why he would withdraw the film until hs death. Maybe he feared that there will be backlash of the realistic kind, on himself personally, on a real life level. :|

I am indeed shocked that you were made to watch such a movie at such a young age, but there you go. You seemed to have enjoyed it more than I did. I'm glad I was not born at such times, and made to watch such movies.


We had no choice, they strapped us into chairs in front of the screen and had these specula which forced our eyelids open so we had to watch.

Bago - re. films like Hostel and Saw - take a look at the 'quiet' serial killings that occasionally get reported abroad. There are some seriously deranged people out there and I think we rarely get teh whole unpleasantnesses reported in the media.

Happyhippy - I've ALWAYS regarded 'Brave New World' as being more disturbing as a dystopia than 1984. I've never been entirely sure why.

I get the feeling that the film is not necessarily a piece of art, and people are forefront, but it became a trendsetter in its own right.

Isn't art, fashion, will inevitably always end up as part of the average Joe's life at some point or another? I'm surprised that the film was made without being censored heavily.

....I've read the book but never seen the film - I didn't particularly enjoy the book and so I didn't watch the film.

Maybe you should try (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2148566&postcount=15) it again (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=206138)

I think it's a fantastic book, particularly where it deals with the problems of young adult males and society; issues which are still being swept under the carpet.

I love the film, I watched it last night for about the 20th time. Its the only film I can watch over and over. I just love a bit of the old ultra violence.

I apologise Pattricia for stereotyping your posts like that. I definitely do find the film quite off.

I feel so nauseous just watching this film. It's the first time I feel so affected from watching a film. Even "Hostel" is not realistic as this at all. There's an element of falseness to it. Cos it is so farfetched.

This film is too physically graphic. "Hostel" was not marketed so prominently as well...it only came out in DVD format. I think. Before it went onto the cinemas.

Dont apologise for stereotyping my posts.(dont know what you mean) but why watch something if you dont like it.? Just turn it off?

A Clockwork Orange is a masterpiece, one of Kubricks finest films. One of the finest I've ever seen full stop.

A Clockwork Orange is a masterpiece, one of Kubricks finest films. One of the finest I've ever seen full stop.
I'll second that. I've read the book and watched the film more times than I can remember. To reasonably minded people it does not glorify violence, in fact it's extremely sickening at times. The book was described as a 'horror farce' or perhaps a 'social prophecy', in fact it is a bit of both. Anthony Burgess was 40 years ahead of his time and Stanley Kubrick's interpretation of 'A Clockwork Orange' a gem.