Hi, I'm new to this forum and would really like input and opinions on possible new gay bar opeing in Sheffield.

I've been a regular scene visitor since the early nineties but inclined to agreed with posts on the dempseys thread that as 1 bar opens another closes it's doors. Quite sad really as Sheffield is surely a large enough city to be able to host more than just 1 bar/club.

Anyone who reads this please take a few mins to post your opinions/advice on the following:

What do you want from a gay bar?

is it time for another bar (not club) as pre drink bar to fuel?

do you think the reason people go to nearby cities is the consistency in sheffield is so poor?

Climax is on once a month, is this enough? Maybe another large venue could hold another once monthly gay night (obviously different night to climax)

Anyone remember Poptasic? i used to love it there, what happened?

How would a themed bar be recieved. eg. Speed dating, theme nights, comedy nights, singers etc?

Thanks for all your views, at the moment they're greatly needed!

I just want something unique and trendy where i can go after work or at dinner time to chill with friends.

Some people may disagree but i think Queens Court and Bar Fibre are unique to have that great court yard for the parties etc which i think are excellent. That sort of atmosphere is what i'd love to experience here in Sheffield.

I'd like somewhere that is run by professionals and are so in their approach and somewhere that serves food by a chef. Some how the thought of gays cooking my food is a bit off putting to me and my friends (obviously we wouldn't mind if the place was professionally run).

I don't think the gay population in Sheffield is small i just think they are sick of being let down and save money for other places such as Manc and Le*ds.

that's my opinion anyway. Good luck with what ever you are planning!

I have been going out on the scene in Sheffield since 1985 and have seen gay venues come and go. The best venues the city ever had were The Albert and Caverlers and the Harlequin Disco on Thursday nights in the club that was/is ??? Niche (next door to Fuel).

For me the most important things for a good GAY venue are:

GAY safe. GAY customers come first. Positive GAY images.
A friendly, fun place for ALL age ranges.
Good prices, good food.
Caberet. Singers, drag acts.
No attitude.
Support the local GAY community, fundraisers etc.

Controversial I know but I want a venue where I celebrate being a GAY man, feel safe about it and not be out-numbered by straights.

Good luck.

GAY safe. GAY customers come first. Positive GAY images.
A friendly, fun place for ALL age ranges.
Good prices, good food.
Caberet. Singers, drag acts.
No attitude.
Support the local GAY community, fundraisers etc.


Personally i wouldn't want Caberet and drag acts. It just make places feel tacky and to be honest it's so last year.

Personally i wouldn't want Caberet and drag acts. It just make places feel tacky and to be honest it's so last year.

I wouldn't want them all the time but a really good drag act can make a fun night out. The gay scene these days has lost it appitite for FUN, too much attitude, hangups about fashion and labels and is the DJ playing the latest hip hop tunes that are being played in straight clubs. It's good to have the odd bit of camp nonsense and everyone just have a laugh. When myself and a group of friends get together we spend the whole night laughing and don't worry about image, we just enjoy each others company and have a camp old time.

Personally i wouldn't want Caberet and drag acts. It just make places feel tacky and to be honest it's so last year.

I find cabaret pulls in the people, look at Dempseys, they do this nearly once a month and the place gets packed. Then Fuel did this on Mondays and that used to get packed as well.

What do you want from a gay bar?

If I was to open a gay bar then it would be something along the lines of what we have but merge them all-together

a pub where there is a beer garden to sit out in the summer, a bar which isnt too small, a couple of pool tables, music in the background, so you are able to chat, nice friendly bar staff, but a mixture of young and old, all we get are young bar staff, quiz night with decent prizes, and why not a bingo night, it would go down well with the queens, decently priced drinks, I am sick of gay places ripping customers off with overpriced drinks, food menu.

How would a themed bar be recieved. eg. Speed dating, theme nights, comedy nights, singers etc?

I cannot see speed dating working with gay people, once a week comedy night would be good, no other bar does it.

A proper pub that is open all day. No pretentiousness.

Drag DJs and cabaret in the evening and weekend afternoons. Unnecessary campness. Cheap booze.

Somwewhere along the lines of Flying Handbag / Mardi Gras in Blackpool.

Sheffield definately needs a radical scene shake up!

I'm currently over in Dublin for a year... well my year actually is almost done... and the scene over here is so much better - and the reason is because it is run properly and caters for everyone. And before people start shouting off that Dublin is a huge city and therefore should be better... it actually only has around 5 gay venues, and a few special nights.

The bars are great - not dingy and dirty.. and the club (The George) - whilst not being the smartest of venues, has some of the best nights. Sunday nights are always packed for bingo and drag, which I hated when I first came here - but now I love it.

Sheffield needs to take a look at other places and take note... because really we have nothing to offer.

All these threads have said the same thing, we are in desperate need of a "gay scene", we don't have one. We cannot compete with the likes of Black'pl, Le*ds and Manch. I for one love drag, which may be surprising being a lesbian, but so does my partner and my mates. I also think it would be great if the lesbians and gay men did more together like our crowd do. There still appears to be so much segregation between lesbians and gays.

Let's get into the 21st century and give all the other major cities a run for their money!!

People keep talking about gay bars not letting straight people in (on other threads) would the one you are thinking of opening be the same ?

If so, this smacks of discrimination :suspect:

And yes, I am straight, and a member of a gay bar !

Strange how times change in Sheffield. The clubs/bars we had were unique and had one style of music, thanks Mr Levine. Nowadays it's very fashion orientated and not devoted to any particalar group - probably why people shoot off to Manchester and Leeds. I'd like to see a bar that's clean and classy, offers food, is open 24/7, has a gym upstairs - much like a complex really. A return to the days of fun, laughter and sex (kidding!) where attitudes were left at the door and and straight was just a reference to how good you walked the line!

this is the problem you see....so many gays want so many different things...some want trendy wine bar, some want camp drag pub. It's just impossible to please all the gays in Sheffield.

I agree with richhen on a lot of his points. I just want somewhere to go and be myself - a traditional boozer but for gays and I'm sorry if that smacks of discrimination but if I were to - by some miracle - actually find a bloke and want to canoodle in a straight bar I don't think I would be in there for long. Even in the Lions I've felt threatened by groups of straight people who just want to view the animals in the zoo - or so it feels. Some of the London bars run a very strict door policy and that seems to work. There are innumberable establishments for straights - can't they leave our couple of places alone? I'd like a sort of gay Wetherspoons I suppose - no loud music, comfortable, good food, friendly staff and not overpriced drinks....

People keep talking about gay bars not letting straight people in (on other threads) would the one you are thinking of opening be the same ?

If so, this smacks of discrimination :suspect:

And yes, I am straight, and a member of a gay bar !

To ban someone just for being straight would be discrimination, but under licencing law a landlord can choose who he/she wants to let in their premises and dosn't have to give a reason for not letting them in. No offence mate but you have hundreds of straight bars in Sheffield that you can go in and feel safe as a straight man, where as I as a GAY man have 2 bars where I can go and feel safe as a GAY man (hold hands with another man, kiss another man, dance with another man). Sensible, educated and supportive men like you are ALWAYS welcome in GAY bars but the knobheads are not.

I agree with richhen on a lot of his points. I just want somewhere to go and be myself - a traditional boozer but for gays and I'm sorry if that smacks of discrimination but if I were to - by some miracle - actually find a bloke and want to canoodle in a straight bar I don't think I would be in there for long. Even in the Lions I've felt threatened by groups of straight people who just want to view the animals in the zoo - or so it feels. Some of the London bars run a very strict door policy and that seems to work. There are innumberable establishments for straights - can't they leave our couple of places alone? I'd like a sort of gay Wetherspoons I suppose - no loud music, comfortable, good food, friendly staff and not overpriced drinks....

Here, Here.

Somewhere with a bit of class, not some glitterball-neon-disco-puffs-parlour would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

Sheffield will never have a decent “Gay” Scene because the gay venues are too widely spread; whilst other towns and cities have been able to change from the dingy venues during the 90’s into today’s modern gay bars, Sheffield moved from seedy and downtrodden Attercliffe into any available venue in the City Centre.

A night out on Sheffield’s Gay Scene either requires a good set of lungs or an account with the local taxi firm. This leaves the venues that do exist fighting with one arm behind their back in trying to make a success of their business.

Posts above mention monthly one off nights such as Climax and Poptastic. Whilst a thriving Gay Scene would welcome such events and the extra footfall that they bring into the City, to have your customers taken away once a month on one of the few nights you turn a profit really doesn’t help. If these events concentrated on promotion, the venue shouldn’t matter. Could the spirit of Climax exist in Fuel, would Poptastic work in Dempsey’s?

If anyone has the money and desire to invest in Sheffield’s Gay Scene it would be far better spent in working with existing venues and the Council to create a gay village in the City Centre. With the redevelopment happening in the next few years in the City Centre we perhaps have a unique opportunity to drag the Scene into the 21st Century… will it happen? Don’t hold your breath.

I think we've got too many 'GAY' bars in sheffield already.Why is there a need for GAY bars anyway, Other bars in sheffield aren't just for Hetrosexals you know

I think we've got too many 'GAY' bars in sheffield already.Why is there a need for GAY bars anyway, Other bars in sheffield aren't just for Hetrosexals you know

Sheffield only has 2 gay bars, the rest are clubs.

Can you see the reation now when 2 gay men kiss in a non-gay bar, the hetro`s would throw a wobbly, hence why gay bars are needed.

I think we've got too many 'GAY' bars in sheffield already.Why is there a need for GAY bars anyway, Other bars in sheffield aren't just for Hetrosexals you know

I can't believe someone can actually say that! Too many! My sides are splitting. Well I think there are too many hetro bars and some should close down immediately. Lol

As Spiderpete says (hiya petie!) and I said earlier how long would it be before two blokes kissing in a straight bar were either asked to leave or the subject of verbal or physical abuse. Yes the world has changed in the last 20 years but not that much.....

Yes the world has changed in the last 20 years but not that much.....

and it won't as long as people hide in the gay ghetto

I agree with a lot that's been said here. Me personally, would like something different to the stereotypical drag acts and cheesy pop nights that, although drag (no pun intended) the punters in, doesn't cater for anyone else whose not into those two themes. I'm sure there MUST be a significant number of gays who dont want that sort of night out.

BTW, I went into Lions Lair and felt I needed a gas mask from the smoke. As for Fuel, just same old, same old. Lots of pseudo trendies with prima donna attitude mincing like it's 1999. Dempsey's is just as bad but with more shell suits and baseball caps. Before you punters who frequent these places start to slag me off, it's just my own personal opinion. If people enjoy it, and have a good time, who am I to stand in there way. Nothing wrong with it at all. It's just that some of us want something else.

The nearest in Sheffield got to a good club was Poptastic at the Centre of Popular Music (The Hub ?). I used to enjoy leaping around to indie, then hopping to the 2nd room to leap around to chart stuff with student price drinks (I think ?).

I agree, a place run by professionals catering for clientelle wanting good food, with good music for the more discerning, that may run specialist nights like speed dating, indie, mature, Bi, TV/CD, DJ guest nights etc. would be great. It is a shame a city the size of Sheff can't open a/more places like this but I suppose it's a financial gamble ? Maybe if one of the more decent places in Leeds or Manchester would like to consider opening sister clubs in Sheff ?

.....or maybe if the guys who used to owned the main gay club(s) in Sheffield in the mid 90's hadn't destroyed 'the scene' back then due to greed, then maybe Sheffield wouldn't be in the sate it's in at the moment ?

I agree with a lot that's been said here. Me personally, would like something different to the stereotypical drag acts and cheesy pop nights that, although drag (no pun intended) the punters in, doesn't cater for anyone else whose not into those two themes. I'm sure there MUST be a significant number of gays who dont want that sort of night out.

BTW, I went into Lions Lair and felt I needed a gas mask from the smoke. As for Fuel, just same old, same old. Lots of pseudo trendies with prima donna attitude mincing like it's 1999. Dempsey's is just as bad but with more shell suits and baseball caps. Before you punters who frequent these places start to slag me off, it's just my own personal opinion. If people enjoy it, and have a good time, who am I to stand in there way. Nothing wrong with it at all. It's just that some of us want something else.

The nearest in Sheffield got to a good club was Poptastic at the Centre of Popular Music (The Hub ?). I used to enjoy leaping around to indie, then hopping to the 2nd room to leap around to chart stuff with student price drinks (I think ?).

I agree, a place run by professionals catering for clientelle wanting good food, with good music for the more discerning, that may run specialist nights like speed dating, indie, mature, Bi, TV/CD, DJ guest nights etc. would be great. It is a shame a city the size of Sheff can't open a/more places like this but I suppose it's a financial gamble ? Maybe if one of the more decent places in Leeds or Manchester would like to consider opening sister clubs in Sheff ?

.....or maybe if the guys who used to owned the main gay club(s) in Sheffield in the mid 90's hadn't destroyed 'the scene' back then due to greed, then maybe Sheffield wouldn't be in the sate it's in at the moment ?


I understand its hard to find something to suit everyone in Sheffield as the Gay scene is that small. Fuel do now run an Indie room every Friday in the trash palace with pop and chart in the main room. Its myself that DJs the indie room and do try and cater for everyone n will play all the old classics such as Undertones, smiths and the Jam along with the newer stuff arctic monkeys, Killers, the gossip etc. The night has been doing really well give it a try. Come say hello if ya come in and i'll try and stick ya a tune or two on :thumbsup:

DJ Emma xx

I think that there are already bars in Sheffield where the gay community can feel welcome that aren't "gay bars." I used to manage the Lions Lair when Fuel took over and alot of the customers never stopped moaning about one thing or another. As soon as i fixed one thing, another wasn't good enough. 2 bars is not enough for a growing community but why limit yourself to just 2 bars? The only places you need to stay out of are the chav bars (unless that's your thing) that contain the narrow-minded shellsuit-clad idiots that aren't willing to accept someone else's sexual preferences. There are loads of bars in Sheffield that actually care about customer service and the right product range - you just need to get out there and find them.

Check this out for starters.
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=205925

I think that there are already bars in Sheffield where the gay community can feel welcome that aren't "gay bars." The only places you need to stay out of are the chav bars (unless that's your thing) that contain the narrow-minded shellsuit-clad idiots that aren't willing to accept someone else's sexual preferences. There are loads of bars in Sheffield that actually care about customer service and the right product range - you just need to get out there and find them.

I agree.....for example The Dove and Rainbow is not a gay bar, but we are all very liberated down here and customer service matters to us a great deal.We havequite a few gay/bi people in as a rule. We are a CHAV FREE ZONE and shell suits and tracksuited baseball hatted cretins are escorted off the premises FAST, (usually by me at night), and I really enjoy kicking out such narrow minded brain dead chavs that seem to litter Sheffield.

With our chav free zone we have a great happy atmosphere, and yes we are a ROCK pub but we have a cool mix of people on most nights. You wont find people with attitude problems here.....:thumbsup:

I think that there are already bars in Sheffield where the gay community can feel welcome that aren't "gay bars." I used to manage the Lions Lair when Fuel took over and alot of the customers never stopped moaning about one thing or another. As soon as i fixed one thing, another wasn't good enough. 2 bars is not enough for a growing community but why limit yourself to just 2 bars? The only places you need to stay out of are the chav bars (unless that's your thing) that contain the narrow-minded shellsuit-clad idiots that aren't willing to accept someone else's sexual preferences. There are loads of bars in Sheffield that actually care about customer service and the right product range - you just need to get out there and find them.

Check this out for starters.
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=205925

Ok,lets test it. Name the bar you work in now (PM or not) and I will come in with a male friend on a Friday or Saturday night and hold hands and kiss him on the lips. Can you guarantee my safety ??

I agree.....for example The Dove and Rainbow is not a gay bar, but we are all very liberated down here and customer service matters to us a great deal.We havequite a few gay/bi people in as a rule. We are a CHAV FREE ZONE and shell suits and tracksuited baseball hatted cretins are escorted off the premises FAST, (usually by me at night), and I really enjoy kicking out such narrow minded brain dead chavs that seem to litter Sheffield.

With our chav free zone we have a great happy atmosphere, and yes we are a ROCK pub but we have a cool mix of people on most nights. You wont find people with attitude problems here.....:thumbsup:

Ok, lets test it. I will come in on a Friday or Saturday night with a male friend hold his hand, kiss him on the lips and show him some affection. Can you guarantee my safety, including no staring, name calling etc ???

To the best of my knowledge you will be fine ......but trying to attract obvious attention is not the best way to 'test' anything.....what I meant was you are not likely to be surrounded by chavs all taking the **** out of you......

To the best of my knowledge you will be fine ......but trying to attract obvious attention is not the best way to 'test' anything.....what I meant was you are not likely to be surrounded by chavs all taking the **** out of you......

So if a male and female were in the same pub holding hands and kissing they would be trying to attract obvious attention? You seem to underline our need for our own places rather than dismiss it.....

To the best of my knowledge you will be fine ......but trying to attract obvious attention is not the best way to 'test' anything.....what I meant was you are not likely to be surrounded by chavs all taking the **** out of you......

Do you also tell your straight customers to not attract attention (do not kiss do not hold hands etc) I don't think so. I want to do what they can do and be safe, without that, a bar can NEVER claim it is gay friendly.

My point is that in a well run gay bar I can express my affection with another man and not feel like a freak on display or feel intimidated. Straight people can do it in any bar in the city, I can't. Anyone lgb who disagrees, then go into any straight bar in town with your partner and try holding hands or whatever and see what happens, you are VERY lucky if you get no reaction.

and it won't as long as people hide in the gay ghetto

Doesn't everybody need somewhere to be themself? Its hardly hiding, is it?

So if a male and female were in the same pub holding hands and kissing they would be trying to attract obvious attention? You seem to underline our need for our own places rather than dismiss it.....

Well said.:clap:

Well said.:clap:

Great minds think alike!

and it won't as long as people hide in the gay ghetto

I do not hide being gay at all. I am a 24/7 gay man, but can you hand on heart say that you feel 100% safe as a GAY man on a Saturday night in town or in some village pub. I go up West Street all the time, but I am aware as a mature man that if I kissed another man or, held hands with a man or danced with another man in the Cavandish or Varsity then I would get some un- wanted attention. And no I don't want to be treated and different to straights, in fact I want the same, but society in general is not THAT tolerant yet so I need a SAFE bolt hole from time to time.

Do you also tell your straight customers to not attract attention (do not kiss do not hold hands etc) I don't think so. I want to do what they can do and be safe, without that, a bar can NEVER claim it is gay friendly.

My point is that in a well run gay bar I can express my affection with another man and not feel like a freak on display or feel intimidated. Straight people can do it in any bar in the city, I can't. Anyone lgb who disagrees, then go into any straight bar in town with your partner and try holding hands or whatever and see what happens, you are VERY lucky if you get no reaction.

Take your point, but I am not saying we are a "gay bar"....I merely stated to the best of my knowledge and intentions, we are gay friendly and do not discriminate, and I certainly would have no hesititation in removiing ANYONE from my bar who was demonstrating any other form of behaviour to that stated. Most bars wouldn't go that far, but I set out to create a friendly and safe atmosphere for all, and as well as removing chavs, that also means removing anyone who seeks to threaten that atmosphere by their actions. So no way are we a "gay bar" in the expected sense, but hopefully much better than the various establishments I could, but wont name, that are full of intolerant and bigoted chavs.

Take your point, but I am not saying we are a "gay bar"....I merely stated to the best of my knowledge and intentions, we are gay friendly and do not discriminate, and I certainly would have no hesititation in removiing ANYONE from my bar who was demonstrating any other form of behaviour to that stated. Most bars wouldn't go that far, but I set out to create a friendly and safe atmosphere for all, and as well as removing chavs, that also means removing anyone who seeks to threaten that atmosphere by their actions. So no way are we a "gay bar" in the expected sense, but hopefully much better than the various establishments I could, but wont name, that are full of intolerant and bigoted chavs.

Thank you for your sensible comments and support. Do you do food, we sometimes go in the Bankers for tea, but we are REALLY fed up with the customers in there.

Thank you for your sensible comments and support. Do you do food, we sometimes go in the Bankers for tea, but we are REALLY fed up with the customers in there.

We only do very basic cold sandwiches but will be doing full daytime food menu from later in the Summer when we get the kitchens sorted out.

And yes the ******s Draft customers leave a LOT to be desired in terms of etiquette for one, and a vague ability to offer an intelligent and carefully worded comment for another. I walk in that place and get rude comments, (mainly about men with long hair, etc) they are so backward and inbred most of them. Some of them try to come into the Dove from time to time and they soon get the message that I only welcome warm, friendly and coherent members of the human race, and not the general Sheffield animal kingdom.

I do not hide being gay at all. I am a 24/7 gay man, but can you hand on heart say that you feel 100% safe as a GAY man on a Saturday night in town or in some village pub.

Yes, but then me and boyfriend aren't into snogging in public anyway, even in a gay pub, and we arn't very "gay acting".

Yes, but then me and boyfriend aren't into snogging in public anyway, even in a gay pub, and we arn't very "gay acting".

Good luck to you.

I think we as a *supposed* gay comunity need to stop bitching at each other at every available op!

So what if nick doesn't like showing affection in public I dont see as that makes him less of a gay man than me for example who does and I can see this thread going down that avenue so lets not!

I also think that people should lay off goldenfleece

I've kissed my ex in various spots allover town (I was very drunk) and never had a problem even in bedroom!

I think that a lot of gay men are getting as narrowminded as the homophobic louts they're complaining about

I've ranted on and this probably doesnt make sense but hey im tired I've not eaten and im at work....so sue me!

I think we as a *supposed* gay comunity need to stop bitching at each other at every available op!

So what if nick doesn't like showing affection in public I dont see as that makes him less of a gay man than me for example who does and I can see this thread going down that avenue so lets not!

I also think that people should lay off goldenfleece

I've kissed my ex in various spots allover town (I was very drunk) and never had a problem even in bedroom!

I think that a lot of gay men are getting as narrowminded as the homophobic louts they're complaining about

I've ranted on and this probably doesnt make sense but hey im tired I've not eaten and im at work....so sue me!

I think your comments are directed at me ??? I am not bitching at Nick, I was saying good luck (genuine) to him also I said thank you to goldenfleece and will call in for a drink. Everyone has their own experiences and I do not feel safe or comfortable in most "straight" pubs as a GAY man. I have suffered verbal abuse and dirty looks before. Going back to the original question/thread - whatever style the "gay" bar is I want it to be safe.

I do not feel safe or comfortable in most "straight" pubs as a GAY man. I have suffered verbal abuse and dirty looks before.

I don't see why this is, unless you go out wearing a t-shirt with "I'M GAY" on it how would people know ?

Perhaps you should try just going out as a man, not a gay man ?

I don't see why this is, unless you go out wearing a t-shirt with "I'M GAY" on it how would people know ?

Perhaps you should try just going out as a man, not a gay man ?

But I am a gay man !!! I am proud to be gay, it,s who I am. I am not into this "straight acting" "fitting in" thing. I have been out since I was 13 and 40 is flashing it's headlights at me now, I am a man who happens to have it off with other men. I can't help it if I am "obvious". And no I am not camp acting (well not much), I don't wear a dress and I have not got a big handle bar mustache (spelt wrong I know) or listen to Judy Garland records. I won't apologise or hide because of some small minded individual(s), but I also don't want to be treated different to everyone else or have my sexuality treated as a joke or figure of hate.

Just because you are gay doesn't mean you have to scream it from the rooftops every chance you get.

I don't want to offend but I think you come across as small minded by instantly assuming that every *straight* venue you goto is going to be full of straight people staring at you becuase you're gay.

I have tonnes of gay and straight friends and I don't stick to one type of venue ie gay or straight I like to mix it up

whats the point in segregating yourself from straight people then complaining that gay people aren't accepted! it's daft!

I see this has ignited some kind of indifferent discussions!

Richhen04

I suggested you to try my bar because it will be friendly towards you no matter what your sexuality is. Why would you want to try and disprove that by acting up, it doesn't make sense to me. I work in a bar called Sanctuary, near the cathedral. We concentrate on serving people well and making people feel welcome. If you came into my bar on a friday or saturday night and started kissing your boyfriend, there wouldn't be a problem. It sounds like you would take that too far and abuse our friendliness to try and prove a point and that wouldn't help anyone at all.

It's a bit like if you were a black guy saying you don't go to certain pubs because some of the customers might be racist.
Some might be, but they are a tiny minority.

I do not feel safe or comfortable in most "straight" pubs as a GAY man. I have suffered verbal abuse and dirty looks before.

Well as I am one who frequents more "straight" pubs than "gay" ones with either work colleagues or Forum peeps I have never had any verbal abuse of dirty looks or felt uncomfortable at all, and I am not exactly "butch" dear, and I dont hide the fact I am gay either, I am myself.

Gawd knows which pubs you go into :suspect: :suspect:

First of all can I offer a genuine apology to anyone I have upset or offended, that was not my intention. We all experience different things in life.

I spend a lot of time in straight bars and have alot of straight friends who I love dearly. But I still believe that true equality/integration means everyone being treated the same and shown respect and on the odd occassion that I might want to be affectionate in public with a boyfriend I would only feel safe doing that in a gay venue not a straight one.

Without naming the bars I once was beaten up by two lads in the toilets in a bar on Division Street for being a "fag" and I am currently waiting to hear from the CPS about a case going to court where I was attacked physically and verbally for being a "queer" and this was very near a bar someone else on the thread has mentioned. I know these are rare cases but they are my experiences.

It's a strange world we live in.

ps. I have been to the Sanctuary and it is a fantastic bar REALLY good food.

ps. I have been to the Sanctuary and it is a fantastic bar REALLY good food.

I'm glad you like

:clap: :wave: :bigsmile: :headbang: :banana: :thumbsup:

ps. I have been to the Sanctuary and it is a fantastic bar REALLY good food.

I can second that! Excellent food at a sensible price, chilled atmosphere.

As a regular reader of the Sheffield Forum I have followed this thread with interest having just moved to Sheffield.
Appreciate that the scene will never be as big as Manchester or Leeds but given the population of Sheffield and surrounding area and the Student presence the existing non club scene has little going for it in comparision to the extensive "straight" options across the City.
Would be good to see alternatives appearing particularly with the work that is starting again in the Centre ( Moor Development etc ).
Clearly there have been lots of places that have opened and closed from all the reminiscing taking place however without the support of us all I guess we will remain looking at a very limited choice of places to go to relax and be ourselves !!!

As a regular reader of the Sheffield Forum I have followed this thread with interest having just moved to Sheffield.
Appreciate that the scene will never be as big as Manchester or Leeds but given the population of Sheffield and surrounding area and the Student presence the existing non club scene has little going for it in comparision to the extensive "straight" options across the City.
Would be good to see alternatives appearing particularly with the work that is starting again in the Centre ( Moor Development etc ).
Clearly there have been lots of places that have opened and closed from all the reminiscing taking place however without the support of us all I guess we will remain looking at a very limited choice of places to go to relax and be ourselves !!!

I once spoke to a bar owner in Sheffield who said that Sheffield would never have a large successful GAY scene because not enough people go out on the scene, the small venues we have now are never full. Most people now tend to go out in the "straight" venues. Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle have a gay community that supports gay venues, it's a total different way of thinking in Sheffield. For example The Churchill in Manchester is packed to the rafters on a Tuesday night, pub quiz, pub games etc, Lions Lair, Dempseys are lucky if they have 10 people in, which is a shame because Lions Lair in particular is a nice venue and has a good garden during the summer. I remember Sheffield tried to have a GAY Pride a couple of times, very few turned out, yet other big cities have hundreds if not thousands of people out on the streets having a great time. I think Sheffield is one big closet.

Thats a shame ! Time it came out !! By implication this thread is doomed to failure then ??

I once spoke to a bar owner in Sheffield who said that Sheffield would never have a large successful GAY scene because not enough people go out on the scene, the small venues we have now are never full. Most people now tend to go out in the "straight" venues. Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle have a gay community that supports gay venues, it's a total different way of thinking in Sheffield. For example The Churchill in Manchester is packed to the rafters on a Tuesday night, pub quiz, pub games etc, Lions Lair, Dempseys are lucky if they have 10 people in, which is a shame because Lions Lair in particular is a nice venue and has a good garden during the summer. I remember Sheffield tried to have a GAY Pride a couple of times, very few turned out, yet other big cities have hundreds if not thousands of people out on the streets having a great time. I think Sheffield is one big closet.

I think Sheffield is one big closet.

Bacause it's gay people prefer to go to straight pubs ?

Are are you saying anyone who doesn't go to and enjoy gay clubs on a regular basis, no matter how crap they are, is in some way closeted ?

'cause thats not the case.

Bacause it's gay people prefer to go to straight pubs ?

Are are you saying anyone who doesn't go to and enjoy gay clubs on a regular basis, no matter how crap they are, is in some way closeted ?

'cause thats not the case.

Nick,

I fully support any individual being able to go whereever they choose or feel comfortable. It's about personal choice and I 100% support your right to choose venues.

What amazeses me is whenever someone expresses a personal opinion different to others they get attacked. Also I just can't understand why GAY men want to attack or put down other GAY men for being proud and out. We all have a right to be who we are and I want to be OUT, PROUD and GAY.

Also I just can't understand why GAY men want to attack or put down other GAY men for being proud and out.

I didn't realise I was.

I don't see why I should agree with everything you say just because your gay.

p.s. I am out, proud and gay, I just don't bother with the "scene"

Anyway...back to the point.

I'd like there to be another venue, and my list of 'would likes' include:

1) Sensible prices
2) Decent cup of coffee
3) Not to have music blaring to the point where you have to scream at one another or the speakers keep having to cut out to save themselves from blowing
4) Relaxed, chilled, clear atmosphere
5) Somewhere comfy to rest my rump and natter with my friends

Pretty much the same I'd like of any bar I went into regardless of the sexual orientation of it's targetted clintelle.

I didn't realise I was.

I don't see why I should agree with everything you say just because your gay.

p.s. I am out, proud and gay, I just don't bother with the "scene"

I don't want you to agree with me, debate is good, attack is not. I respect you point of view, it's just not mine.

And if it's true what you say that you never go on the gay scene, then this thread should be of no interest to you !!!

Anyway...back to the point.

I'd like there to be another venue, and my list of 'would likes' include:

1) Sensible prices
2) Decent cup of coffee
3) Not to have music blaring to the point where you have to scream at one another or the speakers keep having to cut out to save themselves from blowing
4) Relaxed, chilled, clear atmosphere
5) Somewhere comfy to rest my rump and natter with my friends

Pretty much the same I'd like of any bar I went into regardless of the sexual orientation of it's targetted clintelle.

Agree. Sounds good.

And if it's true what you say that you never go on the gay scene, then this thread should be of no interest to you !!!

I should have said "I don't bother with the scene in Sheffield", I'm perfectly happy to go out in Manchester or London.

I'd love a new one as long as its not run by the 'Fuel' monopoly....

'Gayham opens Gay bar shocker' - I can see the headlines now...heh heh watch this space.

I should have said "I don't bother with the scene in Sheffield", I'm perfectly happy to go out in Manchester or London.

I love Manchester. I am going to the Bears Weekend during the first weekend of May. If you are there that weekend and I could get you a pint, no hard feelings, PM me.

I'd love a new one as long as its not run by the 'Fuel' monopoly....

'Gayham opens Gay bar shocker' - I can see the headlines now...heh heh watch this space.

Go on, do it.

I have been going out on the scene in Sheffield since 1985 and have seen gay venues come and go. The best venues the city ever had were The Albert and Caverlers and the Harlequin Disco on Thursday nights in the club that was/is ??? Niche (next door to Fuel).

For me the most important things for a good GAY venue are:

GAY safe. GAY customers come first. Positive GAY images.
A friendly, fun place for ALL age ranges.
Good prices, good food.
Caberet. Singers, drag acts.
No attitude.
Support the local GAY community, fundraisers etc.

Controversial I know but I want a venue where I celebrate being a GAY man, feel safe about it and not be out-numbered by straights.

Good luck.

Hello love, told you i'd send you a message. You're in Spain by now having a sleep or a beer!) and i'm at work. Who's got the best deal?? :roll: Well i'll see you when you get back and let's hope there's somewhere for a decent night out soon. Lots of love :) xxx

I'd love a new one as long as its not run by the 'Fuel' monopoly....

'Gayham opens Gay bar shocker' - I can see the headlines now...heh heh watch this space.

oooooooooo ya beast.

Now thats a nice thought a new bar from our lovely Gayham (see ya at Takapuna ;) ).

Certainly gonna miss ya at Fuel on the 5th. :(

Go on, do it.

I may just do that....

i just want to say thanks to all who posted their valued opinions on here from my original post. i have to say every single one of you have valid points (sorry, forgot the one about too many gay bars in sheffield already!!!!!!lol)

i'm not convinced sheffield can't have a thriving gay scene. i do honestly think it has a lot to do with working together to make it happen. another important factor is not trying to squeeze every last pound out of customers, nothing gets to me more that greed! charging trendy wine bar prices, a fortune to get in on the door and when you try to use the loo you are covered to the ankle in urine!

my concerns are that as a new bar opens the ones already established try so hard to not let folk stray off to new venues. i'm not into holding competitions and doing my best to steal custom from other bars, only to offer the most entertaining, comfortable, affordable and refreshing bar for the gay people of sheffield. i think we deserve it!!

i did see a comment saying that all the gay people in sheffield all want different things, can't be any different to leeds or manchester. the only difference is the many different tastes are catered for which pleases everyone.

with regard to not letting straight people in the bar....it wouldn't be something i intended to do. but it would be very strict, members only poilcy. safety first.

thank you once again. my work is not yet done, i just needed to get a feel of what everyone wanted.

Good luck with what ever you have planned! As you say the gay population of Sheffield deserve this.

watch this space for something new hitting the gay scene in Sheffield soon people :hihi:

watch this space for something new hitting the gay scene in Sheffield soon people :hihi:

I've heard twice now Sheffield will attempt at another Pride event. Is this it? See this link (http://www.sapphiccentral.com/This-Month/lgbt-events-2007-.aspx) at the bottom of the page.

i'm not convinced sheffield can't have a thriving gay scene. i do honestly think it has a lot to do with working together to make it happen.

This has always been the problem, the gay scene dont seem to work together, well not all of them, which is a shame.

my concerns are that as a new bar opens the ones already established try so hard to not let folk stray off to new venues. i'm not into holding competitions and doing my best to steal custom from other bars, only to offer the most entertaining, comfortable, affordable and refreshing bar for the gay people of sheffield. i think we deserve it!!

You will find that they will go to the new place to start with, but after a while, when the "newness" wears off they start going back to the old venues.

I've heard twice now Sheffield will attempt at another Pride event. Is this it? See this link (http://www.sapphiccentral.com/This-Month/lgbt-events-2007-.aspx) at the bottom of the page.

The Sheffield Pride in the Park aint happening this year.

I belive the South Yorkshire Pride is now in Doncaster this year. Very classy lol. Tyranna can fill you in more.

I've heard twice now Sheffield will attempt at another Pride event. Is this it? See this link (http://www.sapphiccentral.com/This-Month/lgbt-events-2007-.aspx) at the bottom of the page.

ive heard about SY Pride and also the possibility of an event in Endcliffe Park like last years? But unsure of the details surrounding both.

i hope either/or will be a success though.

watch this space for something new hitting the gay scene in Sheffield soon people :hihi:

I'll second that as I'm up to things too....!

You will find that they will go to the new place to start with, but after a while, when the "newness" wears off they start going back to the old venues.[/QUOTE]

This is the case with some but not entirely true Pete. Some people left the old venues to not return as they liked what else was on offer. As I've said before, not all gays have the same tastes, it's such a tricky one. Can we just have something not tucked away or down a back street, it needs to be central and show everyone, we're here....(no I wont do the rhyming bit)

Am I imagining it - or is their some strange byelaw in Sheffield that states Gay Venues - must have their Windows covered???

Fuel - its all wall..
Dempseys - its all shutters
Xes - painted
Lions Lair - Blinds Closed

I'd like to know if there is a reason behind this - and if it is just Sheffield?

Its certainly not the case with bars in Manchester nor Leeds..:confused:

I'll second that as I'm up to things too....!

ooh - I know - isnt it exciting ! xx:hihi:

Am I imagining it - or is their some strange byelaw in Sheffield that states Gay Venues - must have their Windows covered???


The Cossack had windows, but then the Cossack was just a pub gay people went to not a full blown "gay pub".

This is the case with some but not entirely true Pete. Some people left the old venues to not return as they liked what else was on offer. As I've said before, not all gays have the same tastes, it's such a tricky one. Can we just have something not tucked away or down a back street, it needs to be central and show everyone, we're here....(no I wont do the rhyming bit)

well this is true, hard to please everyone, as each place has something they like, I doubt if we will ever get "the ideal gay pub/club". :(

well this is true, hard to please everyone, as each place has something they like, I doubt if we will ever get "the ideal gay pub/club". :(

exactly! However if there was more of a choice so if you fancied trendy wine bar then you've got one if you fancied traditional pub you've got one etc etc...if they are all run by the same company with the same ethos and outlook on the gays then where is the diversity? I just need an investor then I'm on my way....

I think its hard to decide on a "gay superbar"!. everybody needs/wants different things. Ask 10 straight people what their favourite bar is and i guarantee they will all say different places. The reality is that we only have 2 bars to cater for every gay person in sheffield which is pretty **** poor. The comment about sheffield having more closeted gays than anywhere else may hold some truth as there is no one (apart from the person starting this thread) who is willing to step up to the plate and consider opening more bars. everyone is bickering amongst themselves about how the scene is sh*t and dempseys/fuel/xcs is sh*t but no-one is doing anything about it. Surely the pink pound counts for something - This city has the potential to have a great scene. The people behind fuel took the bull by its horns and have made a great impact regardless of what people say. It appeals to some and not to others - thats why we need variety. I don't believe gay friendly is enough - although it is good to have these bars - the acceptance is not quite what it should be yet. As a lesbian, i can get away with snogging my girlfriend in a straight/gay friendly bar - i dont think the same can be said about gay men and its a real shame ("i don't mind gays as long as its not in my face" mentality). Canal Street doesnt have the problems because its safety in numbers - imagine someone making homophobic comments outside via fossa on a pride day!!. Thats the problem with sheffield, if we had ten bars instead of two - people may be more inclined to "come out" as there is more choice and the acceptance would be greater. As much as people moan, if you started a gay bar with only a set of optics and a decent sound system -people would go to it!!

It's not as easy as just *doing something about it* I'd love to but with the kind of ideas I've got for sheffield i'd need to be very very reach to achieve them!

I know big ventures need money -isnt there any chains in manchester or leeds who would wanna take the plunge like fuel hull did (?). There must be some way of doing it :confused:

i have to reply to haygringo, you have real valid points...
when i first thought about opeing a bar it was over 10 years ago!!! i too had the same attitude of, that pubs #### this pubs #### why isn't anyone opeing a new bar etc etc. it is all about the money, having the backing to do something like this is essential, having the balls to see it through is the hardest thing, too many "what ifs" and "yeah buts". i think you have to come to an age to realise you get out what you put in. the ideas for the bar have been building for years to the point of my head bursting which is why i need to get them out there for all to see, all to enjoy.

i'm not sure i would be cut out for the competiotion of it all, nothing would please me more than my bar opening and another 10 opening along side, obviously not at the same time, a bit of glory wouldn't go amiss! variety is after all the spice of life, i don't fear this would take business away from me i only think it would bring more people to this wonderful city of ours..and after all it IS a city! (without a scene!)

i'm not talking superclub either, just something that is consistant and fare. something that i have been wanting to come to sheffield for a decade.

the population of sheffield is vast, i never realised how big sheffield really is, only when i did a population check of sheffield, doncaster, barnsley and rotherham did i literally think "this could really work".

what would really please me at this time would be the backing of the community. (maybe richard branson throwing me half a million, save the dreaded trip to the bank)

to all those who have posted already many thanks, to those that just came into to have a sneaky peak stay here a while and post your opinions now! i want to know how many people are really intersted in this!

Sheffield might have a large population but the people simply do not use town to drink in like you would expect. In the week the pubs in town are DEAD and when the students are away (esp. in summer) the bars and clubs really do struggle.

Just out of interest. How close are we to seeing something new in Shefield? Weeks? Months? Years? Yonks?

I know someone who is opening a city centre bar soon (a large one) but I cannot give out details yet.

I know someone who is opening a city centre bar soon (a large one) but I cannot give out details yet.

Oooh, it's almost as exciting as when we didn't know who was going to run the Lions Lair, and it was revealed as, shock horror, Fuel. None of us saw that coming.

Sorry, i'll qualify that, its not a gay bar just a large town centre bar, thats totally independent.

This may be the wrong thread then ?

Speaking as a hetrosexual.
I hope I am not being offensive by saying that I think that some of you imagine that the gay scene in sheffield is much bigger than it is, because there does seem to be a lot of you, and a lot of threads on the SF. Maybe giving the impression that there are more people looking for a gay bar than actually are.
In reality there must be only a small proportion of our gay population which would choose to visit a gay bar on a regular basis. I have enough trouble getting my mates to go to town, they would rather go to the local because it is less effort and they can't be bothered with loud noise and places that are too busy.

In reality there must be only a small proportion of our gay population which would choose to visit a gay bar on a regular basis.

This is true, places like Manchester rely on out of town trade a lot, the bars and clubs arn't kept going just by people from Manchester. In Sheffield the bars and clubs are kept going just by people from Sheffield, and that is what limits the number of venues. Before the scene in Sheffield can expand it needs to be able to attract more people in from outside that woudl otherwise have gone to Manchester or Leeds, how you could do that I don't know.

Just out of interest. How close are we to seeing something new in Shefield? Weeks? Months? Years? Yonks?


something like this does not happen over night. it has to be the right time and the right place.. remember it's people like me who put their necks and houses on the line for something like this. research needs to be completed to make sure it's financially viable, banks need to be convinced to back such a venture, i'm quite sure i wont really get anywhere asking the bank to look at this thread for proof that a gay village is needed. i can't believe how much actually has to go into something like this and think it would suprise a lot of people how much is at risk.

this is seriously stressful work, not to be taken lightly and very very frightening..

i am of course speakin for myself now, others have mentioned in this thread they have things in the pipeline so maybe they are further ahead than i am, maybe they already have premises, chefs, bar staff, cleaners, sound systems etc, you get the picture.

I sincerely hope you achieve your (our?) dream EllaF. Choice is a great thing and currently we have little.
As I sail past 40, I would like somewhere that's cool and funky, comfy and classy, playing a good mix of current and older music with good beer and vodka, clean toilets and just the odd go-go boy.
I hope you can get something started and that it gets supported by the diverse lgbt community here in Sheffield.

I sincerely hope you achieve your (our?) dream EllaF. Choice is a great thing and currently we have little.
As I sail past 40, I would like somewhere that's cool and funky, comfy and classy, playing a good mix of current and older music with good beer and vodka, clean toilets and just the odd go-go boy.
I hope you can get something started and that it gets supported by the diverse lgbt community here in Sheffield.

All I can say is I'll second that!

I think it's about time Shefield had more than fuel and dempseys as place too go out on the scene.Me and my friend have talked about it's loads there isn't enough options too choose from.And as one off the largest city in England it's pretty poor.My friend is wanting too move too Manchester as he is fedup with the scene and living here and thinks he will have more chance meeting someone nice in Manchester.

I sincerely hope you achieve your (our?) dream EllaF. Choice is a great thing and currently we have little.
As I sail past 40, I would like somewhere that's cool and funky, comfy and classy, playing a good mix of current and older music with good beer and vodka, clean toilets and just the odd go-go boy.
I hope you can get something started and that it gets supported by the diverse lgbt community here in Sheffield.

Thank you for your support, this is what i was hoping to get by posting this thread. to stick your neck on the line for something as risky as this is a very frightening experience. I think opening an every day bar/club would not be as hard as there are already thousands of people that go out drinking on a weekend and it would just be another pub in a great long line to visit on a typicl friday night crawl. opeing a gay bar is completely different experience. The more people a meet on the scene the more obvious it becomes that the gay community on the whole like to be entertained. Of course we all want to go out and have a good time, get a little bit merry and enjoy the night. the entertainment side of it brings the bar together as the customers are all experiencing the same thing.
manchester has a great gay scene, 30 or so pubs all provding a place for the gay community to visit. maybe they dont all stand the test of time, maybe there are too many to chose from but surely 2 is simply not enough for a city as big as sheffield.

one more question i would like to add to the original post:
are students put off coming to sheffield uni as there is no scene to speak of, it's a fabulous uni but are gay students more likely to opt for manchester, leeds or newcastle simply because of the scene? i know it sounds like a silly question as people who go to uni a looking for an education but my nephew is off to uni in sept and he chose the one with the better night life! just wondered if this was the case with all students or just my over excited 17 yr old nephew!

My friend is wanting too move too Manchester as he is fedup with the scene and living here and thinks he will have more chance meeting someone nice in Manchester.

The irony being he's more likely to meet someone from Sheffield in Manchester

The irony being he's more likely to meet someone from Sheffield in Manchester
Probably so as a lot of people from Sheffield travel too Manchester as the scene is better.

Hi Folks,

Just got back from Spain where the gay scene, community really impressed me. Lots of gay/lesbian bars, fun/friendly atmosphere, drag shows etc and lots of out, proud and in your face GAY men. Loved it.

I hate "in your face" anything.

I hate "in your face" anything.
Oh well we can't all like the same.

I hate "in your face" anything.

No, i'm not too keen on anything in my face either - it's intimidating if you ask me.

No, i'm not too keen on anything in my face either - it's intimidating if you ask me.

As above reply to Nick.

No, i'm not too keen on anything in my face either - it's intimidating if you ask me.

I don't find it intimidating, just realy anoying and attention seeking.

I hate "in your face" anything.

Yes I agree with you here.

I don't find it intimidating, just realy anoying and attention seeking.

Again agree here, esp the last bit.

I hate "in your face" anything.
Yes I agree with you here.

Not what I'd heard dear. ;)

Not what I'd heard dear. ;)

:o :o :o :o how very dare you, this is a family Forum ,lol :P

Yes I agree with you here.



Again agree here, esp the last bit.

It's all about me, me, me. I want to be adored. Lol, lol.

Poor is the man who's pleasures depend on the permission of another.

Off to seek some more attention Bye.

Pink Pound Needed.

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Thank you.

Do we need another Gay Bar?

YES, and YES!!!

Was in Lion's lair last night - god knows why a friend fancied a drink. Anyway there were a few lads there from Nottingham and they asked me, "is there any other gay bars in Sheffield?" I thought to myself and said, "err there's Dempseys" I pointed the general direction of Dempseys but have to say i have never been so embarrassed to live in Sheffield in my life. They were asking if Fuel was big, 'if this was it' - as they were looking at all the lesbians in Lions Lair. Something must be done about the scene her, it's just not on!

Was in Lion's lair last night - god knows why a friend fancied a drink. Anyway there were a few lads there from Nottingham and they asked me, "is there any other gay bars in Sheffield?" I thought to myself and said, "err there's Dempseys" I pointed the general direction of Dempseys but have to say i have never been so embarrassed to live in Sheffield in my life. They were asking if Fuel was big, 'if this was it' - as they were looking at all the lesbians in Lions Lair. Something must be done about the scene her, it's just not on!

I agree, but if you read most of the posts on this forum by gay men they don't want a bigger gay scene, they are happy living in straight bars.

Just spent the weekend in Manchester and chatted with lots of people, everyone who had been to Sheffield said the gay scene was crap in Sheffield. Gay men in Sheffield need to wake up and demand a better scene and not just rely on the straight bars (even if they are nice places to drink). Put your pink pound into gay bars, the straight scene will do fine without it.

Gay men in Sheffield need to wake up and demand a better scene and not just rely on the straight bars (even if they are nice places to drink). Put your pink pound into gay bars, the straight scene will do fine without it.

I'll go to a gay bar, if it is as good, or better than the straight bars I like.
I won't go to a gay bar just because it's gay and I feel obliged to support it.
I'm not single so my priority isn't going to the pub/club with the largest amount of potential trade wearing the smallest amount of clothing, I actually want somewhere clean, friendly, relaxed, with good beer and a good atmosphere, where I won't be embarased to take my mates.
No amount of go-go boys in cages, glitter balls, Kylie megamixes and drag queen "banter" will tempt me into a pub.

Leeds is a good model that the Sheffield Gay Scene should try and emulate; its a city with a similar size of population, and yet they even have an embryonic 'Gay village'. Maybe sheffield, if given the chance, will have something like this in a few years time...

I don't really get why people care so much, I'd certainly never be embarrassed at living in Sheffield - in fact when people ask "is that it" in response to the amount of bars on offer it usually just provides something to talk about.

What is the point in trying to emulate Leeds or Manchester when they're so close? What more could be offered in Sheffield that isn't offered in these places? Ok, yes, admittedly sometimes I crave something different on a night out but that isn't strictly just the scene, that is a Sheffield as a whole and it's a natural part of living in your home town, especially when I hear my ex moaning about how boring Leeds is.

What is the point in trying to emulate Leeds or Manchester when they're so close?

What more could be offered in Sheffield that isn't offered in these places?


It's not that we don't want more here in Sheffield, just something along the lines - why does it have to be different? people talk about clone cities etc but there's nothing wrong with offering bars and clubs along the similar line of thos in Leeds and Manchester. It's just not viable to travel to these places then get back home unless you know somebody you could stay with in the other cities, and it would be good for Sheffield to have more gay bars. It's people with this kind of negative attitude then stops us attracting new bars etc

Well you're entitled to your opinion of course but I think people look to nearby cities as benchmarks when many of the cities I've lived in before have no more than a handful of gay pubs/clubs.

Ok so people might say Sheffield should have more due to its size but that is all relative - come summer when probably at least 85% of the students go home there is a sigificant portion of the driving force of nightclubs/pubs gone. In that sense Sheffield is quite unique because most cities don't have such a cylical population.

I'll go to a gay bar, if it is as good, or better than the straight bars I like.
I won't go to a gay bar just because it's gay and I feel obliged to support it.
I'm not single so my priority isn't going to the pub/club with the largest amount of potential trade wearing the smallest amount of clothing, I actually want somewhere clean, friendly, relaxed, with good beer and a good atmosphere, where I won't be embarased to take my mates.
No amount of go-go boys in cages, glitter balls, Kylie megamixes and drag queen "banter" will tempt me into a pub.

Nick,

I agree with you, go-go boys, thongs, constant Kylie/Steps and glitter balls are not my cup of tea, I wish we had a gay version of S1 or Muse, if we had somewhere better then I would rather spend my pink pound in a nice gay venue.

And I agree, when you are in a committed relationship the need to go on the scene changes or fades away, but it's nice to have somewhere decent to go when you do fancy dipping your toes into the scenee.

We can't all agree on the same things but I believe a debate is what is needed in Sheffild and I really appreciate your honest input.

Leeds is a good model that the Sheffield Gay Scene should try and emulate; its a city with a similar size of population, and yet they even have an embryonic 'Gay village'. Maybe sheffield, if given the chance, will have something like this in a few years time...
Sheffield has a gay village - it's called rotherham!

Roflmao!!!

Sheffield has a gay village - it's called rotherham!

GAWD!!! That's a surprise to me, especially as I've almost singlehandedly (albeit with the help of DJ Scott) kept the Rotherham 'Scene' (Every Wednesday night at a variety of bars in the town centre) alive for over a year.

Sadly, at present there's no specific 'Gay' night or venue in Rotherham, but I'm in contact with a few sources which might be organising a regular night once again later in the year...

Richen, Good point about the need for an 'alternative' style regular Gay venue. True, there is Razor Stiletto, as well as the brand new night at Stardust (Freakers and Shakers), but each of those are only once a month. Again, I've got an idea up my sleeve I'm working on with some others, for a regular 'Quality', and 'cultured' alternative to what all three regular venues are offering...


P.S. one new Gay Night I'd also REALLY like to see is a monthly LGBT Rollerdisco at the Queens Road Rink again. It has been tried before a couple of years ago, but that was while it was still an ice-rink, and it lasted only two months.


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and it won't as long as people hide in the gay ghetto

I totally agree with nick, as long as gays keep isolating themselfs nothing is going to change. Granted i am from manchetser (but visit sheffield allot) there are bars and clubs every where, in which i feel safe being gay (with anyther guy) however there are bars and clubs that i dont feel safe in general, not becuase im gay, but just by how the place is run, the types of people who go and previouse experience. i prefer going out on the straight scene to the gay scene and will often meet gay guys there and kiss them and i feel totally safe. every one around is accepting and i have never ever experienced discrimination. I think that more mixing is needed so that eventually there will be no need for a "gay scene"

I totally agree with nick, as long as gays keep isolating themselfs nothing is going to change. Granted i am from manchetser (but visit sheffield allot) there are bars and clubs every where, in which i feel safe being gay (with anyther guy) however there are bars and clubs that i dont feel safe in general, not becuase im gay, but just by how the place is run, the types of people who go and previouse experience. i prefer going out on the straight scene to the gay scene and will often meet gay guys there and kiss them and i feel totally safe. every one around is accepting and i have never ever experienced discrimination. I think that more mixing is needed so that eventually there will be no need for a "gay scene"

Interesting opinion, gives me something to think about.

At the end of the day we can't all agree on the same thing but from a personal point of view I have not had the same experience as you in straight bars. I love going up West Street for a pint ot two but there is NO way I would feel safe showing any affection to another gay man in some of the bars in Sheffield and again from a personal point of view/experience I would be upset by the abuse, last week mw and a friend were called "queers" in the Common Room for hugging and laughing in a silly sort of way!!!!

I am a young gay sheffielder, and all i want is a nightclub that plays chart and pop songs. You know what I mean: Justin , Britney, Madonna, Liberty X (Just a Little). For instance a club that when they play sexyback and you have just fought yourself to a decent position to dance, they dont go and put on B*Witched, i.e Climax, and the other venue that doesnt deserve its name on here any more. Its not brain surgery, you dont have to go to a university for 5 years to have musical flows.
Tell me how can a DJ NOT justify a song, like ManEater ( a recent song that topped the charts) and play B*Witched (that left the charts years ago). And dont get me started regarding The Darkness!!

and the other venue that doesnt deserve its name on here any more.

Well dont leave it at that, spill the beans :)

I am a young gay sheffielder, and all i want is a nightclub that plays chart and pop songs. You know what I mean: Justin , Britney, Madonna, Liberty X (Just a Little). For instance a club that when they play sexyback and you have just fought yourself to a decent position to dance, they dont go and put on B*Witched, i.e Climax, and the other venue that doesnt deserve its name on here any more. Its not brain surgery, you dont have to go to a university for 5 years to have musical flows.
Tell me how can a DJ NOT justify a song, like ManEater ( a recent song that topped the charts) and play B*Witched (that left the charts years ago). And dont get me started regarding The Darkness!!

as a dj its great to hear people's opinions on this Forum.

in response to your above post - both b*witched and the darkness are popular Climax favourites, hence their inclusion on the night..

by stating that you 'fought for' a position on the dancefloor should remove any need for me to justify anything to you.

its not possible to please all of the people, all of the time.

I am a young gay sheffielder, and all i want is a nightclub that plays chart and pop songs. You know what I mean: Justin , Britney, Madonna, Liberty X (Just a Little). For instance a club that when they play sexyback and you have just fought yourself to a decent position to dance, they dont go and put on B*Witched, i.e Climax, and the other venue that doesnt deserve its name on here any more. Its not brain surgery, you dont have to go to a university for 5 years to have musical flows.
Tell me how can a DJ NOT justify a song, like ManEater ( a recent song that topped the charts) and play B*Witched (that left the charts years ago). And dont get me started regarding The Darkness!!

also, before i forget - liberty x - ha ha ha ha ha ! :loopy:

I am a young gay sheffielder, and all i want is a nightclub that plays chart and pop songs. You know what I mean: Justin , Britney, Madonna, Liberty X (Just a Little). For instance a club that when they play sexyback and you have just fought yourself to a decent position to dance, they dont go and put on B*Witched, i.e Climax, and the other venue that doesnt deserve its name on here any more. Its not brain surgery, you dont have to go to a university for 5 years to have musical flows.
Tell me how can a DJ NOT justify a song, like ManEater ( a recent song that topped the charts) and play B*Witched (that left the charts years ago). And dont get me started regarding The Darkness!!


sorry 2 interrupt here but you dont need to go to university for 5 years to see that your argument seems to be a bit flawed malecat.

in case you havent been to university for 5 minutes perhaps i need to simplify ... you appear to be contradicting the very point you are trying to make.
(Bewitched and The Darkness are both POP acts! )

sorry but this just had to be said.

I am a young gay sheffielder, and all i want is a nightclub that plays chart and pop songs. You know what I mean: Justin , Britney, Madonna, Liberty X (Just a Little). For instance a club that when they play sexyback and you have just fought yourself to a decent position to dance

I apologise if I'm wrong, but wasn't he saying that this is what he wants from a club, not what actually happened? :confused:

as a dj its great to hear people's opinions on this Forum.

in response to your above post - both b*witched and the darkness are popular Climax favourites, hence their inclusion on the night..

by stating that you 'fought for' a position on the dancefloor should remove any need for me to justify anything to you.

its not possible to please all of the people, all of the time.

Good point, a packed dancefloor speaks volumes. DJ's only play what is popular.

Im not going to get into a debate with a DJ who is stuck in the 90's and early 00's! His credentials clearly speak for themselves, Hanson, B*Witched and the Darkness. What i meant was, why not have a run of songs of the similar Genre, I.E B*Witched (if u must), the spice girls and the other songs around 1998. I (as others think, and yes they do), what is the point of getting up to dance when you change the genre of song (thats the type, like pop, rock) from one extreme to the other.

And DK Skott Kelly reckons he knows me, as in a private message he threatened to reveal my identity if i didnt change some posts, i must have hot a nerve, but he still hasnt directly named or described me. To be honest I couldnt care to tell you the truth.

Oh yeah, the dancefloor was clearly busy as, when i went to the toilets the corridors were swarming with your adoring public listening to your fantastic songs! To all the other comments, i thank BoroughGirl for her observations, she has a grasp of my argument! SpiderPete, im still not naming the venue! And to Misucster7 you really need to read the post carefully before you start arguing, you are clearly still in pre-school, go and enjoy B*Witched.
Also, B*Witched, better than Liberty X, i think not you Peeches Geldof wannabe :P !

If Sheffield is so good then why is there this thread calling for a better venue, why is Fuel loosing its custom and Dempseys not ragaining its ols ones? So dont jump down my throat every time i make a comment. I do want Sheffield to be a good place but some people take it personally and think they are a celeb in the Sheffield scene and try to enforce songs upon us.
XX

"something new... coming soon"

I bet its not a better DJ!

Im not going to get into a debate with a DJ who is stuck in the 90's and early 00's! His credentials clearly speak for themselves, Hanson, B*Witched and the Darkness. What i meant was, why not have a run of songs of the similar Genre, I.E B*Witched (if u must), the spice girls and the other songs around 1998. I (as others think, and yes they do), what is the point of getting up to dance when you change the genre of song (thats the type, like pop, rock) from one extreme to the other.

And DK Skott Kelly reckons he knows me, as in a private message he threatened to reveal my identity if i didnt change some posts, i must have hot a nerve, but he still hasnt directly named or described me. To be honest I couldnt care to tell you the truth.

Oh yeah, the dancefloor was clearly busy as, when i went to the toilets the corridors were swarming with your adoring public listening to your fantastic songs! To all the other comments, i thank BoroughGirl for her observations, she has a grasp of my argument! SpiderPete, im still not naming the venue! And to Misucster7 you really need to read the post carefully before you start arguing, you are clearly still in pre-school, go and enjoy B*Witched.
Also, B*Witched, better than Liberty X, i think not you Peeches Geldof wannabe :P !

If Sheffield is so good then why is there this thread calling for a better venue, why is Fuel loosing its custom and Dempseys not ragaining its ols ones? So dont jump down my throat every time i make a comment. I do want Sheffield to be a good place but some people take it personally and think they are a celeb in the Sheffield scene and try to enforce songs upon us.
XX

thanks to my interpreter for translating the above...

now then... how bitter is the youth of today?

i mean they get barred from fuel for taking drugs 'anya' then have to amuse yourself by coming on to this forum and trying to cause un-necessary arguments.

rancid.

SpiderPete, im still not naming the venue!


No need to, I am sure we can all guess form your posts which venue you mean. Are you an ex Fuel staff by any chance :suspect: :suspect:

and Dempseys not ragaining its ols ones

Struggling to understand this bit. :loopy:

For the recrord I have never and will never take drugs, i have never been barred from Fuel either. If only i was that lucky.
Sorry about the confusion Spiderpete: i meant that Dempseys are not regaining its old custom! I have also NEVER worked for Fuel.


Musicster7 once again you ae far from the truth, go and listen to b*witched!

Im not going to get into a debate with a DJ who is stuck in the 90's and early 00's! His credentials clearly speak for themselves, Hanson, B*Witched and the Darkness. What i meant was, why not have a run of songs of the similar Genre, I.E B*Witched (if u must), the spice girls and the other songs around 1998. I (as others think, and yes they do), what is the point of getting up to dance when you change the genre of song (thats the type, like pop, rock) from one extreme to the other.

And DK Skott Kelly reckons he knows me, as in a private message he threatened to reveal my identity if i didnt change some posts, i must have hot a nerve, but he still hasnt directly named or described me. To be honest I couldnt care to tell you the truth.

Oh yeah, the dancefloor was clearly busy as, when i went to the toilets the corridors were swarming with your adoring public listening to your fantastic songs! To all the other comments, i thank BoroughGirl for her observations, she has a grasp of my argument! SpiderPete, im still not naming the venue! And to Misucster7 you really need to read the post carefully before you start arguing, you are clearly still in pre-school, go and enjoy B*Witched.
Also, B*Witched, better than Liberty X, i think not you Peeches Geldof wannabe :P !

If Sheffield is so good then why is there this thread calling for a better venue, why is Fuel loosing its custom and Dempseys not ragaining its ols ones? So dont jump down my throat every time i make a comment. I do want Sheffield to be a good place but some people take it personally and think they are a celeb in the Sheffield scene and try to enforce songs upon us.
XX


thanks :love: mwah!

"something new... coming soon"

I bet its not a better DJ!

mwah! jealousy will never get u anywhere.

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

For the recrord I have never and will never take drugs, i have never been barred from Fuel either. If only i was that lucky.
Sorry about the confusion Spiderpete: i meant that Dempseys are not regaining its old custom! I have also NEVER worked for Fuel.


Musicster7 once again you ae far from the truth, go and listen to b*witched!

it would be a case of more fool fuel if they had ever employed someone with the ability to spit forth such nonsensical drivel...

living in the shadow of netto must be such a nightmare.

:rolleyes: mwah!

I apologise if I'm wrong, but wasn't he saying that this is what he wants from a club, not what actually happened? :confused:

nah boroughgal, It was attempting to conceal It's vitriolic verbal diarrhoea, by trying to generalise....

:rolleyes:

I am really sorry you are taking it to heart, but the fact of the matter is you are not a proper DJ! Fuel employed you, and unfortunatley that is where it all went wrong. Speaking of Netto i saw the b*Witched album in there for £1 the other day. You are a second class Dj and always will be DJ Scott K, or should i call you Musicster7?
I suggest you get off of this forum, you have a month to improve your set!

WITH A HAMMER X

I am really sorry you are taking it to heart, but the fact of the matter is you are not a proper DJ! Fuel employed you, and unfortunatley that is where it all went wrong. Speaking of Netto i saw the b*Witched album in there for £1 the other day. You are a second class Dj and always will be DJ Scott K, or should i call you Musicster7?
I suggest you get off of this forum, you have a month to imprive your set!

Mwah! Thanks again lovely xx

With A Hammer X

Hi yep you got me.Only jokin guess someone else thinks you are a very very bad d.j.

Mod. Note

OK people, let's chill please and stop the personal abuse.

I'm not concerned who started it, but can we all just chill out and play nice.

Thank you

LOL

b*Witched is a very contentious issue on the gay scene, people are bound to get passionate and sometimes inocent people die, or at least get their eyes scratched out.

:)

LOL

b*Witched is a very contentious issue on the gay scene, people are bound to get passionate and sometimes inocent people die, or at least get their eyes scratched out.

:)

Lol. xx:hihi: The last few comments have got a bit silly. DJ Scott is very good at what he does and Malecat has a point (i love Maneater) but is being a bit silly. DJ's have a very hard job to please everyone, I prefer indie but wouldn't expect them to play it all night.

Malecat, Dempseys do alot of r N b, I was on teh dancefloor the other week and it was Justin, Nelly, Rhiana, Beyonce etc for most of the night and this indie boy still had a good time. Open you mind.

Bring back B' witched for next years Eurovision.

Just to point out B*Witched are Irish so would not represent the UK!!!

Just to point out B*Witched are Irish so would not represent the UK!!!

Check yourself out. You don't have to COME FROM the country you represent in Eurovision the SONG has to be written by the country.

Gina G is Australian but sang for the UK

Celine Dione is Canadian but sang for Switzerland.

etc, etc, etc.

I thought this thread was about : Want another gay bar in Sheffield?

and not "who should represent who in the ****ty eurovision contest"

or maybe it should be re-named "lets have a bitching session".

No wonder the original poster hasnt posted much, talk about destroy a thread. :o :o

Yes, I could not agree more SpiderPete I feel bad this all started just because I was pointing out that there is no musical flow sticking Justin next to B*Witched. It is very sad that when you try and point out flaws that other cities gay scene do not have, people take it to heart. Which leads to the question: If Sheffield's gay scene is so perfect, why do people not go on it?
There clerely is a problem, how about starting with the music.

I have just started a new thread in the hope of improving the gay scene music in Sheffield. I want you all to vote for your top 5 fave songs, either past or present. It is hoped that the DJ's will pay attention to what the majority want.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2266412#post2266412

Malecat

I thought this thread was about : Want another gay bar in Sheffield?

and not "who should represent who in the ****ty eurovision contest"

or maybe it should be re-named "lets have a bitching session".

No wonder the original poster hasnt posted much, talk about destroy a thread. :o :o

I was just wading through and thinking the same. It always amazes me that there can be so many blinkered people who believe only their opinions count. You'd think in "GayWorld" we would be more accepting of differences after so many years of being reviled for being "different" ourselves....

I quite like B*witched myself.....:hihi: But I would never judge anyone based on their musical taste. Unless of course they have Motorhead CDs!

Anyway back to the thread - there are a few teasers from people about upcoming thrills in the Sheffield Scene - may I just wish them luck and hope that they can cater for some needs at present left wanting.

Good old gay scene. Lots of moaning, bitching and queening but not much actually being done to remedy the problems

But I would never judge anyone based on their musical taste. Unless of course they have Motorhead CDs!


Oi!! I quite like Motorhead, but my boyfriend doesn't :headbang:

I was p--sing myself at the last few comments. Changed my mind about another gay bar in Sheffield now - or at least have an age bar on one ie over 30's only, lol. What you "kids" don't realise is that in Sheffield many many moons ago, all we had was High Energy played at every gay night/venue across the city. The Club/Planet/Rockies/Lydias or whatever it was called only ever played Hi Energy (gay music I might add) and would never play any chart music at all. The gay scene thrived and we didn't have the squabbling. If music be the food of love - looks like something went wrong with the gay scene when it finally backed down and played mainsteam stuff. I reckon there's an answer to the problem somewhere. Anyone care to open a pub that plays only high energy, fast tempo music with nothing less than 126 beats a minute? I always wondered why F**L never bothered to have a High Energy night. I know D******s tried a few but the DJ didn't know what he was playing and got fed up after half an hour and chucked the chart stuff on. <sigh> If only I could win the lottery, open a pub/club and cater for gay people! Gay people? What a waste of a good word when we're reduced to hysterical outbursts on threads such as this. Tut tut

I was p--sing myself at the last few comments. Changed my mind about another gay bar in Sheffield now - or at least have an age bar on one ie over 30's only, lol. What you "kids" don't realise is that in Sheffield many many moons ago, all we had was High Energy played at every gay night/venue across the city. The Club/Planet/Rockies/Lydias or whatever it was called only ever played Hi Energy (gay music I might add) and would never play any chart music at all. The gay scene thrived and we didn't have the squabbling. If music be the food of love - looks like something went wrong with the gay scene when it finally backed down and played mainsteam stuff. I reckon there's an answer to the problem somewhere. Anyone care to open a pub that plays only high energy, fast tempo music with nothing less than 126 beats a minute? I always wondered why F**L never bothered to have a High Energy night. I know D******s tried a few but the DJ didn't know what he was playing and got fed up after half an hour and chucked the chart stuff on. <sigh> If only I could win the lottery, open a pub/club and cater for gay people! Gay people? What a waste of a good word when we're reduced to hysterical outbursts on threads such as this. Tut tut

HiNrgy! :wow:

Let me know if it ever opens UKSentinel - I'll be first in the queue! :thumbsup:

Yeah we should start a "Bring back Hazell Dean" campaign!!

Oh yes Hi-NRG, those were the days, thats all was played in Rockies, the young people of today have no idea what we are talking about either, I say bring on a "Hi-NRG" night in Sheffield and watch the old queens come back in droves.

Thank god for YouTube which has loads of Hi-NRG on it.

I was p--sing myself at the last few comments. Changed my mind about another gay bar in Sheffield now - or at least have an age bar on one ie over 30's only, lol. What you "kids" don't realise is that in Sheffield many many moons ago, all we had was High Energy played at every gay night/venue across the city. The Club/Planet/Rockies/Lydias or whatever it was called only ever played Hi Energy (gay music I might add) and would never play any chart music at all. The gay scene thrived and we didn't have the squabbling. If music be the food of love - looks like something went wrong with the gay scene when it finally backed down and played mainsteam stuff. I reckon there's an answer to the problem somewhere. Anyone care to open a pub that plays only high energy, fast tempo music with nothing less than 126 beats a minute? I always wondered why F**L never bothered to have a High Energy night. I know D******s tried a few but the DJ didn't know what he was playing and got fed up after half an hour and chucked the chart stuff on. <sigh> If only I could win the lottery, open a pub/club and cater for gay people! Gay people? What a waste of a good word when we're reduced to hysterical outbursts on threads such as this. Tut tut

I agree. :clap:

Look forward to the music thread.

Can I just point out that I do not support bullying or personal attacks, BUT this is a public thread and a we live in a land of free speach we all have the right to comment on, challenge or correct each others comments. If you don't want a response or you don't want to share, don't post it on a public forum, use the PM.

I storngly believe that the Sheffield Gay scene needs a good debate about what is wanted and needed but we all have to be realistic and remember that yes we all have one thing in common "we fancy people of our same sex) but we are all individuals, with different tastes, experiences and needs. I have learnt alot from this thread and others and say thank you for your contributions. Lets all stop bitching (including me) and work together.

xx

Look forward to the music thread.

Can I just point out that I do not support bullying or personal attacks, BUT this is a public thread and a we live in a land of free speach we all have the right to comment on, challenge or correct each others comments. If you don't want a response or you don't want to share, don't post it on a public forum, use the PM.

I storngly believe that the Sheffield Gay scene needs a good debate about what is wanted and needed but we all have to be realistic and remember that yes we all have one thing in common "we fancy people of our same sex) but we are all individuals, with different tastes, experiences and needs. I have learnt alot from this thread and others and say thank you for your contributions. Lets all stop bitching (including me) and work together.

xx

Absolutely! :D

This thread as does all the others with regards to the gay scene in Sheffield makes me laugh. It shows just how backward sheffields scene is and why nothing new works out too well!

We will never have anything like Queens court /Mission in Leeds NG1 in Nottingham or Revenge in Brighton because the sad queens of the Sheffield scene refuse to get with the times.

If i'm honest the way that people think/voice their opinions on here makes me ashamed to be a gay man. I think it's sad that it seems to offend certain people that straght people would want to come to a gay venue and that some people feel it's their god given right to have a gay bar and that they must go there and there only as a general day to day bar isn't good enough!

And before you start going onabout being safer in a gay bar and whatever i've been allover the country in both gay and straight bars and i've NEVER had any problems with anyone due to my sexuality. I've kissed a mate of mine and danced quite flirtaciously with him in bedroom on west st (which is one of the roughest bars in sheffield lol) and no one said a word

The question of this thread would I like another gay bar in sheffield yes in some respects but in others no

yawn - nice to see "pussyboy" is still continuing on Its crusade to out Its-self as a complete and utter waste of space...

I continually hear the term "musical flow" being thrown about by It.... Perhaps if its argument had any coherency whatsoever, one could begin to accept that It may have the slightest idea as to what any djing terminology means..

Whilst as always any constructive criticism is welcomed by myself, Im afraid any nonsensical waffle/ bitching as displayed by "malecat" will be completely ignored when preparing any of my future sets... :hihi: :hihi:

Yes, I could not agree more SpiderPete I feel bad this all started just because I was pointing out that there is no musical flow sticking Justin next to B*Witched. It is very sad that when you try and point out flaws that other cities gay scene do not have, people take it to heart. Which leads to the question: If Sheffield's gay scene is so perfect, why do people not go on it?
There clerely is a problem, how about starting with the music.


1. Climax is busier than it was 12 months ago...

1. Climax is busier than it was 12 months ago...

2. Malecat is a minger.

Now now, don't lower yourself to that standard. You are better than that.

Now now, don't lower yourself to that standard. You are better than that.

I'm Sorry :o

I'm Sorry :o

Forgiven. :wave:

This thread is great... :hihi:

I am really sorry you are taking it to heart, but the fact of the matter is you are not a proper DJ! Fuel employed you, and unfortunatley that is where it all went wrong. Speaking of Netto i saw the b*Witched album in there for £1 the other day. You are a second class Dj and always will be DJ Scott K, or should i call you Musicster7?
I suggest you get off of this forum, you have a month to improve your set!

WITH A HAMMER XAre you a DJ ?
If not, stop bitchin' - we have a hard enough job without people having a pop at us.

If you are, tell us where you have a residency so we can come and check your sets out.

As someone else said, you cant please all of the people all of the time.

This thread is great... :hihi:

I wish there was a smiley for storming off in a huff.

I wish there was a smiley for storming off in a huff.

lol. :bigsmile:

Thats the trouble with smileys - not enough flexibility - by the way Mr Richhen - I am trying to reply to your PM but it won't let me :(

This thread is great... :hihi:

Yes some of the posts are just plain laughable, lol

People have been banned for far less than some of the posts on here, but they continue to be here. :huh: :huh:

I continually hear the term "musical flow" being thrown about by It.... Perhaps if its argument had any coherency whatsoever, one could begin to accept that It may have the slightest idea as to what any djing terminology means..To be fair although malecat doesn't know it he's referring to programming. A valuable skill and probably the only DJ technique that can't be taught and takes a long time to learn and even when learned mistakes can be made.

As i've never ever heard you DJ i'm not going to criticise your skills or make a personal attack on you. However, if a punter says that he's not happy you might wish to listen to them, after all they do pay your wages

Are you a DJ ?
If not, stop bitchin' - we have a hard enough job without people having a pop at us.

If you are, tell us where you have a residency so we can come and check your sets out.

As someone else said, you cant please all of the people all of the time.Paying on the doors does not just buy you entry. It buys you the right to an opinion. If you set yourself up as an entertainer then you also set yourself up for criticism. You can't take the praise without accepting the negatives

There were more places to go to 10 years ago than there are now.
It would be great to have a non tacky welcoming place to drink, listen to music and chill out, at anytime of the day or night.

There are enough days in the week to theme nights and please most people, even those of us that love guitar and indie music instead of dance music all the time! :)

Crikey why not push the boat out and have a women only night too like most of the other big cities in this country!

I don't mind helping with anything either so feel free to email me XX

Crikey why not push the boat out and have a women only night too like most of the other big cities in this country!


Fuel have a women night on a Sunday, not sure how often though.

Thank's for the info..........I'd given up looking for one if truth be known.

Paying on the doors does not just buy you entry. It buys you the right to an opinion. If you set yourself up as an entertainer then you also set yourself up for criticism. You can't take the praise without accepting the negatives

I find your commentary particularly patronising.

However, thanks all the same.

xxxx

Yes some of the posts are just plain laughable, lol

People have been banned for far less than some of the posts on here, but they continue to be here. :huh: :huh:

Aren't they Just... :loopy:

I find your commentary particularly patronising.

However, thanks all the same.

xxxxDoesn't make it wrong though. If you find it patronising perhaps you'd be good enough to explain why?

MOD: This thread has degenerated into a slanging match so I'm closing it. I was going to delete it but thought better of it as leaving it will allow people to re-visit their posts and see how silly they look. Thanks.