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RodWalker
12-11-2011, 20:34
Hi all. Does anyone remember the gun site (ack ack Ibelieve) that was off to one side of the top of the hill that the 63 bus used to go up (Rutland Road I think). There wer some old army huts there where we used to live (squat actually) from about 1946 (I was three then) until we moved to Walkley in about 1950. There must have been about 50 huts and they were all occupied. Names I recall were us Walker of course), Fazakerley, Frith and Taylor. I can remember going to Firs Hill Infants. We had to walk across a big fiels with allotments and what seemed then like a huge piggery. Probably the one mentioned in a few posts in this thread. I also remember the tip where we used to find all kind of 'interesting' things.

Rod

patto
12-11-2011, 21:06
My dear late Aunty Hilda was a spotter at the anti aircraft battery at the top of Cookswood Road. She reconed the Germans were after the gasworks at the bottom of Neepsend, and the forges at Daniel Doncasters on Penistone Road. She would have been about 20 at the time of the Sheffield blitz. Died at a good age 80 bless her.

patto
12-11-2011, 21:12
East side of Herries Road was always counted as Parson Cross or Southey Green. I lived on Barrie Crescent (East side), and went to Shirecliffe schools Nursery, Infants , Junior and Secondary from 53-65. Still remember my neighbours. 45 Warners, 47 Surplice, 49 Gardeners, 51 us, 53 Wood, 55 Knight. Happy if poor times.

Hotmale 1954
24-11-2011, 17:30
Sad to hear of the death of Alan Blumenstock. Ex Penrith Road.
R.I.P mate.

eastbank
25-11-2011, 14:38
working on this book kid of steel....
i lived on the shirecliffe from 1955 until 1968....
i only had one year at the secondary school...67/68....
what was the place like...
the teachers...
i played for the football team....
school mates included wes haywood john gallagher chris bartholomew...
help would be appreciated...

purple
25-11-2011, 21:49
Sad to hear of the death of Alan Blumenstock. Ex Penrith Road.
R.I.P mate.


It is very sad.And unexpected.
RIP Alan xx

purple
25-11-2011, 21:54
Sad to hear of the death of Alan Blumenstock. Ex Penrith Road.
R.I.P mate.


yes it is and unexpected.

RIP Alan xx

rhodesian
26-11-2011, 08:02
sorry to hear about fred thompson,we were in the same classes at longley and shirecliffe schools.also sad to read about the recent death of winston bartholamew who went to shirecliffe as well,r.i.p.

winston was a bully and his younger brother, well enough said. Unable to tell it as it is, i would again be banned for 24 hours.

skippy
26-11-2011, 09:46
Sad to hear of the death of Alan Blumenstock. Ex Penrith Road.
R.I.P mate.

Was he any relation to Kevin Blumenstock who lived on Musgrave or Crumpsall in the late 50's ?

mrs grissom
26-11-2011, 10:10
Hi all. Does anyone remember the gun site (ack ack Ibelieve) that was off to one side of the top of the hill that the 63 bus used to go up (Rutland Road I think). There wer some old army huts there where we used to live (squat actually) from about 1946 (I was three then) until we moved to Walkley in about 1950. There must have been about 50 huts and they were all occupied. Names I recall were us Walker of course), Fazakerley, Frith and Taylor. I can remember going to Firs Hill Infants. We had to walk across a big fiels with allotments and what seemed then like a huge piggery. Probably the one mentioned in a few posts in this thread. I also remember the tip where we used to find all kind of 'interesting' things.

Rod

Hi Rodwalker. My Dad used to tell us tales of manning the guns on Shirecliffe during the war . He was too young to have been called up then so I'm guessing that it would have been part of the home guard service and I'm sure I remember him saying that there were also barrage balloons there too.

mrs grissom
26-11-2011, 10:19
working on this book kid of steel....
i lived on the shirecliffe from 1955 until 1968....
i only had one year at the secondary school...67/68....
what was the place like...
the teachers...
i played for the football team....
school mates included wes haywood john gallagher chris bartholomew...
help would be appreciated...

Hi eastbank. I went to Shirecliffe too, or Herries as it became and would have been there at the same time as you.Give us a hint who you are ? Remember those names well. Christopher Bartholamew and Wesley Haywood were both very blonde haired lads as I remember. I went through junior school with them and John Gallagher too. The last I heard of Wes Haywood he was an ambulance man I think . I have a class photo taken in 1972 as we were bout to leave Herries if you'd like to see it let me know .

Hotmale 1954
26-11-2011, 14:10
Was he any relation to Kevin Blumenstock who lived on Musgrave or Crumpsall in the late 50's ?

as far as I know, the Blumenstocks on penrith road were 'allegedly' the only blumenstocks in the country?
Alan and lawrence were the only two I knew.

Hotmale 1954
26-11-2011, 14:18
working on this book kid of steel....
i lived on the shirecliffe from 1955 until 1968....
i only had one year at the secondary school...67/68....
what was the place like...
the teachers...
i played for the football team....
school mates included wes haywood john gallagher chris bartholomew...
help would be appreciated...

i went to shirecliffe/herries.
the school produced far more convicts than it did university lecturers.
teachers? > robin quayle - pete davison - brian moorhouse - eric robinson ?
Some good footballers came out of Shirecliffe/herries

eastbank
26-11-2011, 20:11
Hi eastbank. I went to Shirecliffe too, or Herries as it became and would have been there at the same time as you.Give us a hint who you are ? Remember those names well. Christopher Bartholamew and Wesley Haywood were both very blonde haired lads as I remember. I went through junior school with them and John Gallagher too. The last I heard of Wes Haywood he was an ambulance man I think . I have a class photo taken in 1972 as we were bout to leave Herries if you'd like to see it let me know .

my name tony cronshaw....left shirecliffe in 1968....moved to birley.....
loved the whitewash buildings in infants and the playground in juniors....love to see the school photo...any from the juniors......
wes came to my last book launch....john is landlord of queens at mosborough...as for chris not seen him for a few years.....cheers

bullerboY
27-11-2011, 17:44
i went to shirecliffe/herries.
the school produced far more convicts than it did university lecturers.
teachers? > robin quayle - pete davison - brian moorhouse - eric robinson ?
Some good footballers came out of Shirecliffe/herriesIt also produced a lot of millionaires.

Sarkysod
27-11-2011, 21:42
It also produced a lot of millionaires.

That's a statement I would be very interested in you following up.

bullerboY
28-11-2011, 19:11
That's a statement I would be very interested in you following up.Right here we go,two who ran a tyre business at Handsworth,two who had a dismantling firm at Hillsboro and took the Scunthorpe steel businesses to pieces.One who has a well known heating company with the name B****** heating.Obviously I am not giving names on the forum but thats just a few from my area of living on Shirecliffe 1946-1964.They all went to Shirecliffe School,there may be a few more,if anyone knows please let us know.

eastbank
29-11-2011, 09:19
Right here we go,two who ran a tyre business at Handsworth,two who had a dismantling firm at Hillsboro and took the Scunthorpe steel businesses to pieces.One who has a well known heating company with the name B****** heating.Obviously I am not giving names on the forum but thats just a few from my area of living on Shirecliffe 1946-1964.They all went to Shirecliffe School,there may be a few more,if anyone knows please let us know.

not quite a millionaire mate...but my shirecliffe upbringing told me if you dont try you dont get.....
at present working on the book kid of steel.....
making money as kids...taking bottles back...penny for guy...whit sunday....selling coal that was dumped on tip....selling sticks....happy days

bullerboY
29-11-2011, 12:09
not quite a millionaire mate...but my shirecliffe upbringing told me if you dont try you dont get.....
at present working on the book kid of steel.....
making money as kids...taking bottles back...penny for guy...whit sunday....selling coal that was dumped on tip....selling sticks....happy daysve done all that,what era was yours on Shirecliffe and where did you live.

warday
29-11-2011, 15:44
Right here we go,two who ran a tyre business at Handsworth,two who had a dismantling firm at Hillsboro and took the Scunthorpe steel businesses to pieces.One who has a well known heating company with the name B****** heating.Obviously I am not giving names on the forum but thats just a few from my area of living on Shirecliffe 1946-1964.They all went to Shirecliffe School,there may be a few more,if anyone knows please let us know.

Hallo bullerboy,i knew one off the two guy's your talking about he lived on the same street as my wife & she also wen't to shirecliffe school, so you would know her & her brother's & sister, im from pitsmoor but spent a lot of time on the shirecliffe from 1957 onwards.

bullerboY
29-11-2011, 16:13
Hallo bullerboy,i knew one off the two guy's your talking about he lived on the same street as my wife & she also wen't to shirecliffe school, so you would know her & her brother's & sister, im from pitsmoor but spent a lot of time on the shirecliffe from 1957 onwards.Her name wouldn't be Lily would it?The other one lived on Musgrave place.

warday
29-11-2011, 17:45
Her name wouldn't be Lily would it?The other one lived on Musgrave place.

No it was Sheila her sister was called Lily & two brothers Albert & Tommy.

eastbank
29-11-2011, 18:58
ve done all that,what era was yours on Shirecliffe and where did you live.

from my birth in 1955 until 1968.......loved it every single minute

bullerboY
29-11-2011, 19:27
No it was Sheila her sister was called Lily & two brothers Albert & Tommy.I do know them second name begins with L.The lad I speak about lives 300yrds from me at wickersley,I was with him yesterday.

bullerboY
29-11-2011, 19:29
from my birth in 1955 until 1968.......loved it every single minuteYou didn't say where,I lived on Crumpsall.

warday
29-11-2011, 21:46
I do know them second name begins with L.The lad I speak about lives 300yrds from me at wickersley,I was with him yesterday.

And the lad you speak about last name starts with S.

skippy
30-11-2011, 02:25
I honestly don't think where you lived or went to school has a great influence on how your life pans out when you start working for a living, in my opinion, having a decent life with all it's rewards comes from the choices we make, the risks we're willing to take, and a lot of what was once called common sense, but unfortunately it's not common anymore.

Frenchie9920
30-11-2011, 08:46
My Mum lived on Boynton Road from 1941 when she was born until 1961 when she got married. Her name was Carol and her older sister was Janet. Surname was King. My Nan and Grandad lived there all their married lives, up to my Grandad's death and my Nan going into a home which was about mid 1980's.

Wynne
30-11-2011, 10:29
Just wondered if anyone remembers the Wood family, 5 girls one boy, it was a long time ago, Iwas born 1940. We lived on Longley Avenue West, 198 opposite the Meadows, next door to a family called Bartholamew and on the other side Mr & mrs Lee children Norma and Dennis.

bullerboY
30-11-2011, 14:28
And the lad you speak about last name starts with S.Yes I spoke to him today.

eastbank
30-11-2011, 18:11
You didn't say where,I lived on Crumpsall.

firstly 20 then 23 Musgrave Road.....attended infant/junior then one year in secondary school before i left the area...

jasper12
30-11-2011, 19:07
I am Lily Lockwood, I know many of these names on these pages, lived on Boynton Crescent, my brother is Tom lockwood, sister was Sheila.
I had a brother Albert who died at 11 years old.
some names I know , Middletons, Straws, Pearsons,Stewarts , Kershaws [ almost family to me]
Jud Mills, was a close friend to my brother,Rileys,ThompsonsHowarths , these lived on the crescent , except for Jud mills.
Any one remember buying home made toffee , and apples from a woman about two streets from me, they were the best,[ treacle toffee. I can see it but can not rember her name or street...

hello lily this is david stewart hope you are ok our bill still meets your tom each week they are still freinds after all these years hope to hear from you thanks.

bullerboY
30-11-2011, 19:37
hello lily this is david stewart hope you are ok our bill still meets your tom each week they are still freinds after all these years hope to hear from you thanks.Hello Mr Stewart I see you finally made it onto here I hope you have a lot of fun playing catchup. Mel

bullerboY
30-11-2011, 19:42
firstly 20 then 23 Musgrave Road.....attended infant/junior then one year in secondary school before i left the area...
You must know the Horsemans,Quinns,Westermans ,Rouses,Guests, Musgrave was my paper round in the 50s and I can still remember what most houses had but dont ask what I did last week.

eastbank
01-12-2011, 09:36
You must know the Horsemans,Quinns,Westermans ,Rouses,Guests, Musgrave was my paper round in the 50s and I can still remember what most houses had but dont ask what I did last week.

horsman that was my grandad bill and grandma flo, rouse lived across and we played football with richard harwood...uncle frank and auntie lily guest were no relation but still called them such....
i am working on a new book kid of steel that tells of my life on the shirecliffe..playing on tip,swinging over river don,the seven ponds,atlas and norfolk,sat morning at forum and essoldo....happy days

bullerboY
01-12-2011, 12:08
horsman that was my grandad bill and grandma flo, rouse lived across and we played football with richard harwood...uncle frank and auntie lily guest were no relation but still called them such....
i am working on a new book kid of steel that tells of my life on the shirecliffe..playing on tip,swinging over river don,the seven ponds,atlas and norfolk,sat morning at forum and essoldo....happy daysIs your mother Jean,the Horsmans and my family are related through marriage somewhere down the line.I used to knock around with Fred at one time and remember telling him at that time 1957 there was no money in bricklaying,yeh well whose the fool now.I lived at 52 crumpsall rd.If you see any of the family ask them if they new Ethel Marriott nee young.She was my aunt and knew Jean very well.

eastbank
01-12-2011, 17:11
Is your mother Jean,the Horsmans and my family are related through marriage somewhere down the line.I used to knock around with Fred at one time and remember telling him at that time 1957 there was no money in bricklaying,yeh well whose the fool now.I lived at 52 crumpsall rd.If you see any of the family ask them if they new Ethel Marriott nee young.She was my aunt and knew Jean very well.

since my gran died in 1968....had no contact with the family....she jean did one in 1962....my gran brought me up.....my guardian angel....she was a marriot...my surrogate mum until dad re-married in 1966.....
my gran would have been florence marriot.....she married william horsman in 1933...
i researched it all for my book.....i lived at number 20....eight all crammed into the house....happy days.....
used to visit the marriots on southey with gran....he was called jack and had two children called wendy and robert....used to see wendy in crazy daizy along with mick horsman.......small world in it....

jasper12
01-12-2011, 17:21
hello lily this is david stewart hope you are ok our bill still meets your tom each week they are still freinds after all these years hope to hear from you thanks.answer to your question toffee apples it was fred thompson mother lived on boyton rd .

bullerboY
01-12-2011, 17:57
Hi ,eastbank we must know each other,Ethel Marriott nee Young was my mothers sister,her husband Fred was killed just after the war in a factory accident,the Marriotts then lived on Murdoch rd and symonds cres,I knew Jack and the family and I have a photo taken on Murdoch rd.Fred marriott and his family lived on Helliwell crescent.There was some connection with Ike and Elizibeth(aunt Liz)Young who lived on Athelstan Rd.Did you know the Robinsons,Edmond,Anthony and Allan who lived opposite the bottom of Musgrave,they are the other part of my family,Their mum and dad were Ted and Hilda.

bullerboY
01-12-2011, 18:00
Eastbank,Fred Marriotts mother was called Eva.

eastbank
01-12-2011, 19:11
Hi ,eastbank we must know each other,Ethel Marriott nee Young was my mothers sister,her husband Fred was killed just after the war in a factory accident,the Marriotts then lived on Murdoch rd and symonds cres,I knew Jack and the family and I have a photo taken on Murdoch rd.Fred marriott and his family lived on Helliwell crescent.There was some connection with Ike and Elizibeth(aunt Liz)Young who lived on Athelstan Rd.Did you know the Robinsons,Edmond,Anthony and Allan who lived opposite the bottom of Musgrave,they are the other part of my family,Their mum and dad were Ted and Hilda.

sorry mate...only knew jack and wendy/robert.....i am now 56....are you same age as fred....
got a publisher for the book.....should be out next year....

bullerboY
01-12-2011, 20:01
sorry mate...only knew jack and wendy/robert.....i am now 56....are you same age as fred....
got a publisher for the book.....should be out next year....No I am 70,I thought the info might help you with the Marriotts.I will pm you.

skippy
02-12-2011, 02:35
my name is Lilian Lockwood,

That name rings a bell, I remember June Riley from the Crescent also.
Another name just came to mind, the Haddington's, they lived opposite the entrance to the Meadows, at the bottom of the hill on Longley Ave West, seem to think Beryl married a deaf and dumb bloke in her late teens.
The King sisters sound very familiar, but can't remember which house they lived in, just around the bend on Boynton perhaps?

joiner andy
02-12-2011, 05:05
born on musgrave cres, went to buskmeadows, roewoods then herries, then shirecliffe college. its been good reading this thread, recognise loads of names:)

(surprised i can spell owt with that list of schools:hihi:)

dibsy
02-12-2011, 08:26
Hi eastbank. I went to Shirecliffe too, or Herries as it became and would have been there at the same time as you.Give us a hint who you are ? Remember those names well. Christopher Bartholamew and Wesley Haywood were both very blonde haired lads as I remember. I went through junior school with them and John Gallagher too. The last I heard of Wes Haywood he was an ambulance man I think . I have a class photo taken in 1972 as we were bout to leave Herries if you'd like to see it let me know .

Chris is my Uncle.

Sorry to hear about Fred Thompson,we were in the same classes at Longley and Shirecliffe schools.Also sad to read about the recent death of Winston Bartholamew who went to Shirecliffe as well,R.I.P.

Winston was my dad.

eastbank
02-12-2011, 08:42
Chris is my Uncle.



Winston was my dad.

did you manage to contact chris....my new book is out in january and chris features in it.....
your dad was like a big brother to me...so was charles and eric....working on a book called kid of steel......
one story in it...i was helping with their small holding..they kept chickens and pigs....
got too close to charlie while he was using a hammer...lump on my head...took me to your grans...she covered it in butter...happy days

dibsy
02-12-2011, 08:54
did you manage to contact chris....my new book is out in january and chris features in it.....
your dad was like a big brother to me...so was charles and eric....working on a book called kid of steel......
one story in it...i was helping with their small holding..they kept chickens and pigs....
got too close to charlie while he was using a hammer...lump on my head...took me to your grans...she covered it in butter...happy days

I'm gonna send him a text to let him know, if you ever want his number just let me know.

Dads death was a hell of a shock as it was so sudden, miss him so much, him and my mum moved into a bungalow just 4 months earlier which was something he'd been wanting to do for a long time, mum was due to retire on the following saturday as he died on the tuesday.

Charlie died a few years ago.

Just my uncle John (who is still on Longley Avenue), Eric and Chris left now of the Bartholomew brothers.

Hope you recovered from that...lol, my nan was lovely.

I remember my dad telling me about the chickens and the way they used to strangle their necks to kill them, i remember him also telling me about a time when he cut off one of the chickens heads and then the chicken got up and started running about.

I've got a lot of old photos that I've put on facebook of the lot of them and there's a lot of Chris when he was a lad if you're a member on there.

eastbank
02-12-2011, 10:04
I'm gonna send him a text to let him know, if you ever want his number just let me know.

Dads death was a hell of a shock as it was so sudden, miss him so much, him and my mum moved into a bungalow just 4 months earlier which was something he'd been wanting to do for a long time, mum was due to retire on the following saturday as he died on the tuesday.

Charlie died a few years ago.

Just my uncle John (who is still on Longley Avenue), Eric and Chris left now of the Bartholomew brothers.

Hope you recovered from that...lol, my nan was lovely.

I remember my dad telling me about the chickens and the way they used to strangle their necks to kill them, i remember him also telling me about a time when he cut off one of the chickens heads and then the chicken got up and started running about.

I've got a lot of old photos that I've put on facebook of the lot of them and there's a lot of Chris when he was a lad if you're a member on there.

yes i am on facebook...think i have just sent you a request.....
we were best mates at school....the new book which is called kid of steel....tells of growing up on the shirecliffe....that one should be out at the end of 2012....
the one out in january was first issued in 2002....let chris know....my contact details are below...

jasper12
07-12-2011, 14:26
I am Lily Lockwood, I know many of these names on these pages, lived on Boynton Crescent, my brother is Tom lockwood, sister was Sheila.
I had a brother Albert who died at 11 years old.
some names I know , Middletons, Straws, Pearsons,Stewarts , Kershaws [ almost family to me]
Jud Mills, was a close friend to my brother,Rileys,ThompsonsHowarths , these lived on the crescent , except for Jud mills.
Any one remember buying home made toffee , and apples from a woman about two streets from me, they were the best,[ treacle toffee. I can see it but can not rember her name or street...

your answer to treacle toffee apples mrs,thompson, lived on boynton road it was freddy thompson mother message from david stewart who lived on boynton crescent 3 doors down from you.

joiner andy
07-12-2011, 14:27
can anyone remember mables fruit n veg shop just down from sharkys chippy?

Benella
07-12-2011, 17:44
I remember most of the shops on Longley Ave West. The bottom shop used to be called Meadows, next shop up was originally a Chemist then became a sweet shop. next was Hammonds greengrocers - hence the Mabel you speak of.
In the 50's there was just spare land above Hammonds, where the beer off was built. Above that was the chippy - I used to call on the way home at about 11ish & buy a couple of Fishcakes for the price of one - six pence I think.
Then there was Quales I think the name was - Newsagents. Then the butchers & finally I think it was the Co-Op.
Good days & a good area to be brought up

joiner andy
08-12-2011, 04:16
I remember most of the shops on Longley Ave West. The bottom shop used to be called Meadows, next shop up was originally a Chemist then became a sweet shop. next was Hammonds greengrocers - hence the Mabel you speak of.
In the 50's there was just spare land above Hammonds, where the beer off was built. Above that was the chippy - I used to call on the way home at about 11ish & buy a couple of Fishcakes for the price of one - six pence I think.
Then there was Quales I think the name was - Newsagents. Then the butchers & finally I think it was the Co-Op.
Good days & a good area to be brought up

very good area to be brought up. my sisters used to push me in my pram to those shops get their sweets and forget to take me home, boming it back up the hill once they realised i wasnt there:hihi:

bullerboY
08-12-2011, 09:22
I remember most of the shops on Longley Ave West. The bottom shop used to be called Meadows, next shop up was originally a Chemist then became a sweet shop. next was Hammonds greengrocers - hence the Mabel you speak of.
In the 50's there was just spare land above Hammonds, where the beer off was built. Above that was the chippy - I used to call on the way home at about 11ish & buy a couple of Fishcakes for the price of one - six pence I think.
Then there was Quales I think the name was - Newsagents. Then the butchers & finally I think it was the Co-Op.
Good days & a good area to be brought upThe shops were ,Meadow Daries,Maxfield Chemist,Mabel and Charlie Hammond Greengrocers,Fearns chippy,Tugbys or Quayles it was the same family,Co-op Butchers,Co-op Grocers.Charlie Hammond also did a Greengrocery round with his lorry.

jasper12
25-01-2012, 10:15
Any one remebers longley boys football team

jasper12
26-01-2012, 16:05
longley boys football team 1958/1959/1960 david gledhall, fred thompson ,norman rodgers ,chris bumford ,dave stewart , billy walker , ken dickenson ,mick nisdale ,terry flecther , mick eddison,vincent linnley. hope the spellings are ok: if anybody remembers different please reply thanks, most of the above names allso played for shireclife school football team, and rugby team, rugby team won luther milner sheild 1955, and football team runners up sheffield wednesday sheild 1955.

skippy
27-01-2012, 11:48
There is also a picture of the Shirecliffe soccer team from 59 or 60 on the friends reunited website.

jayneh
02-02-2012, 17:23
dont know if this would interest anyone who still lives on Shirecliffe - there is a meeting athe to community centre Friday 3rd February at 4.45pm it is a public meeting (but no one seems to know about it). David Blunkett will be there and so wil Viridor

iham
11-05-2012, 19:00
Hi all. Does anyone remember the gun site (ack ack Ibelieve) that was off to one side of the top of the hill that the 63 bus used to go up (Rutland Road I think). There wer some old army huts there where we used to live (squat actually) from about 1946 (I was three then) until we moved to Walkley in about 1950. There must have been about 50 huts and they were all occupied. Names I recall were us Walker of course), Fazakerley, Frith and Taylor. I can remember going to Firs Hill Infants. We had to walk across a big fiels with allotments and what seemed then like a huge piggery. Probably the one mentioned in a few posts in this thread. I also remember the tip where we used to find all kind of 'interesting' things.

Rod
Hi there Rod, i also used to live (squat) on the gunsite, my family name was Hammond and we lived at number 8a, although i recognise some of the other family names i don't seem to recall yours. The main family names i recall is Howell - Scottish Lady. I also went to Firs Hill nursery and infants school from 1946 aged 3 and left in 1952ish. Do you or anyone remember the old lady, who always had a jar of sweets - was her name Polly Peat?

millsie
16-05-2012, 03:56
I Have Lived On Shirecliffe All My Life Does Anyone Else Come From The Area ?
Hi Charlotte
I was born on Musgrave Drive Shirecliffe in 1943, lived there until I migrated in '65. I went to the Herries Road school, and we used to swing on the steel school gates. Unfortunately for me, when I was about 10, I had my hand in the wrong part of the gate, when it shut, my finger was trapped. With my finger hanging off, I ran across the road to the nearest shop to telephone for an ambulance. Naturally, I picked the butchers shop, (anyone remember Ossie, the butcher?) who rang for an ambulance. I didn't do his trade any good he used to remind me! Recently, I came back to Sheffield and had a reunion with some school friends who I hadn't seen for about 52 years. When one of them asked how they would recognise me, one of them said "just wave to any old bloke, if he waves back and you notice a finger missing, that's him!
Regards Millsie

skippy
16-05-2012, 12:36
[QUOTE=millsie;8872098]I was born on Musgrave Drive Shirecliffe in 1943, lived there until I migrated in '65.

Same age as myself, so you must have been in the same year as me if you went to Shirecliffe school cobber.

millsie
16-05-2012, 13:04
Hi Skippy, you must be getting on too. My brothers Ralph, Brian & Harry went to Shirecliffe school, a did one of my sisters, Mary (yep, & kids!). I was a affectionately called a 'clever dick' otherwise known as "pob-head" by them and went to the City Grammar in Leopold St. as it was called then. Last year I went back with family and actually stay in part of the old school complex, as it is now the Leopold Hotel. Very nice people, recommend it, not the cheapest but get a very good deal if booking midweek on the net. Found dozens of old school friends from '54-'59 who still keep in touch and have monthly lunches. Took me 25 years to save enough to take my family over there, but since the kids grew up and are both working in London, I seem to get back every year or two lately. Nice to have free B & B, called payback!
Good talking to you mate, take care, might bump into each other one day on our travels.
Travel safe
Millsie

bullerboY
16-05-2012, 16:08
Hi millsie.I knew your brian so I must know you,I lived on Crumpsall Rd,You must have been in the same class as David Cooper.The butcher was Ossie Bennett,yes Skippy is getting on a bit now but I am a wee bit older but unlike you lot in Ozz with all that sun all we get is rain.You lived on my paper round mornings and evenings.

millsie
17-05-2012, 01:03
Hi BullerboY, thanks for the email, nice to contact some of the neighbours. Unfortunately, Brian died a few years ago at the age of 71, miss him as he as a lovely bloke. Such a shock as he was so fit & healthy. As I have said, I went to Longley infants on Herries / Raisen Hall Road (opposite the Forum) and then on to City Grammar where I knew an Earnest Cooper, not David.
I used to deliver papers for Wilcox / Quail too, they accused me of not delivering a newspaper and sacked me! Trouble was, he was right, just missed the house and wasn't going back as he wanted me to.
I used to hang around with Jeff Price & Trevor Beard but lost contact with them now.
Just received a call from my friendly travel agent, I'm coming over to UK on 28th this month and will definitely call in on Sheffield. Mills family are still mostly in the area, but both my kids are presently working in London, hence free board.
Might see you around, take care
Millsie

skippy
17-05-2012, 11:18
You lot in Oz with all that sun, all we get is rain.

Best ten quid I ever spent Buller, ha ha.
I remember Jeff Price, good soccer player in his day.

millsie
17-05-2012, 12:17
Jeff was indeed a good player. I believe one of his brothers (Peter I think) died in a road accident a few years ago. We all used to play in the top wood Sundays, beating the players was bad enough but the trees & tree stumps were the worst!
Most kids a bit older than me had to do National service, probably like bullerboY and that gave them a bit of adventure. No NS when I was 18, liked to travel, so after finishing my apprenticeship at Dormer Tools, saved 10 pounds to come out here for a couple of years.
That was in 1965, still here!
Sheffield has improved a lot though, my grand-kids love visiting there, especially Rails, the model train shop up Chesterfield Road. Just confirmed my booking, leave to visit UK May 27th, hope United win at Wembley, be good to have 2 teams in Championship again.
See you, Millsie

bullerboY
17-05-2012, 12:21
Hi millsie, I knew all the Prices and Trevor Beard,I din't know Brian had died,wasnt he married to Ann Trotter once upon a time. Shirecliffe is definatly not the place it used to be the shops there are a mess now and they have built some really strange houses there.We had a fifty yrs reunion at Longley School a few years ago and I am in touch with a few of the old boys and girls,what names do you remember?

bullerboY
17-05-2012, 12:27
Millsie,peter is still alive and living up Lane top he was a well known Sheffield Councillor and is still active in cycling,Ken died a few years ago and he was a weight lifting champ,i dont know where Jeff is these days. Yes that tenner was the best money you ever spent.

millsie
17-05-2012, 12:38
No, Brian married Doreen Hogg. Alan was married to Ann for a short while, didn't work out at all. I am a bit confused, the infants school cnr. Herries Road & Raisen Hall was Longley wasn't it (opposite the old Forum)? That's the one I went to. Mr Mason was my last teacher there. At 5, I had a crush on Miss Broadhead because she had a very shiny face ( I later learned that she probably had other attributes!). There was Ann Allerton, Eileen Boot & Pat Fox whom I met up with on a visit in the 80's, Ann Gregory (you probably knew her bro & is Tommy & Janet), Tony Allen, Keith Marshall, Brian Gee, Billy Taylor, Roger Goodison & Michael Edison to but name a few.

millsie
17-05-2012, 12:49
Sorry bullerboY, it was Ken who died. Peter actually responded to a Genes Reunited contact a few years ago and he advised me re Ken, and that Jeff was an accountant who I think moved somewhere in Derbyshire.

bullerboY
17-05-2012, 16:33
Hi millsie,I wasn't sure whether it was Brien or Alan,I used to go out with Ann around 1956 unfortunatly she has now gone about 4 years ago.I knew Eileen Boot,Pat Fox has also gone she married Tony Marsh who lived down Raisen Hall Rd I remember Brian Gee and Roger Goodison,Mick Edison was in the same class as me.The teachers I remember were Mason,Constadine Talbot,Miss clareborough,Mrs Biram,the Headteachers were Miss Driver and Miss chapell,Yes you have the right school opposite the Forum.Ann used to be a stunner I was nuts packing her up.

skippy
18-05-2012, 00:36
Those days playing footy in the wood were the good old days, sometimes 22 a side, ha ha, Roger Goodison was in the same class as me at Shirecliffe, he was a big lad, and very easy to get along with, others I remember from your side of the wood were Dave Futter, Alf Oates [no longer with us] Kevin Bloominstock, Alan Ransom, and many more that are in my inbox somewhere.
Our back garden used to overlook the wood, but I had to climb the neighbours fence to get to it, because there were two gardens from a couple of houses on Shirecliffe road that joined ours at the top, then they built that little community hall where they had dances on a weekend, but it looks rather big nowadays, and now there's a new school in the wood too, so the side of Boynton Rd where I lived has now been blocked off, but our old house is still there.
I only spent my last three years at Shirecliffe school, as we moved from Crookes when I was 12, so I only knew the kids that lived locally or that I went to school with there, I'm surprised how many people I knew still live in that area.

millsie
18-05-2012, 01:29
Yep Skippy, I lived at No. 13 & Roger at No.22 Musgrave Drive. If you go to picturesheffield.com you can feed in your street, school etc, marvelous old pictures of all over Sheffield. Make an ex-pat like you drool. Probably a picture of bullerboY with his umbrella outside Tugby,s or Ferns Fish & Chip shop.
I still remember the N0.63 to town coming around the corner of Longley Ave & Shirecliffe Road in the snow, it couldn't stop as it would loose its traction so you had to run after it! And more than once, had to get off and walk up Cookswood road because it couldn't make it. See ya Millsie

bullerboY
18-05-2012, 08:21
Yep Skippy, I lived at No. 13 & Roger at No.22 Musgrave Drive. If you go to picturesheffield.com you can feed in your street, school etc, marvelous old pictures of all over Sheffield. Make an ex-pat like you drool. Probably a picture of bullerboY with his umbrella outside Tugby,s or Ferns Fish & Chip shop.
I still remember the N0.63 to town coming around the corner of Longley Ave & Shirecliffe Road in the snow, it couldn't stop as it would loose its traction so you had to run after it! And more than once, had to get off and walk up Cookswood road because it couldn't make it. See ya MillsieYou cheeky sod ,we couldn't afford an umbrella.I remember all those skippy has mentioned.Mr and Mrs Tugby and Alex and Dorothy Quayle are buried in Swinton churchyard near Rotherham.I remember when Wilkox's had the shop with their son Douglas who looked like Charles Hawtry from the Carry On films.Ironic but I think Mr Fern was a German or so we thought maybe it was his haircut.I can see the 63 coming up L.A.W.and they were putting sacks under the back wheels.Remember how we used to jump of the backs of the buses when they were coming up to stop we thought we were really big and grown up.Can you remember the young lad who lived at the corner of L.A.W. and Shirecliffe Rd,he had Downs syndrome I think his name was Stuart.

skippy
18-05-2012, 12:38
I remember that bloke who lived on the corner Buller, he used to run around the wood with an axe at times, but he was quite harmless and a friendly kid when you got to know him, I remember him passing away at an early age.
I remember king wello chasing people with the sharp fence railings that could be lifted out of the fence which used to be where the community centre is now, and using them like spears, that's when he wasn't spending his time at one of the piggeries on the meadows.

I often look at different places on the google maps street view to see how places look nowadays, and I've seen the picturesheffield site Millsie, it does bring back some good memories, there's a view looking down Shirecliffe Road, and you can just see our back bedroom windows, I could see the coop from my bedroom window.

millsie
19-05-2012, 01:29
I remember that bloke who lived on the corner Buller, he used to run around the wood with an axe at times, but he was quite harmless and a friendly kid when you got to know him, I remember him passing away at an early age.
I remember king wello chasing people with the sharp fence railings that could be lifted out of the fence which used to be where the community centre is now, and using them like spears, that's when he wasn't spending his time at one of the piggeries on the meadows.

I often look at different places on the google maps street view to see how places look nowadays, and I've seen the picturesheffield site Millsie, it does bring back some good memories, there's a view looking down Shirecliffe Road, and you can just see our back bedroom windows, I could see the coop from my bedroom window.
Cannot remember that kid but remember the Tews just on the bus stop on LAW. Those railings around the top wood have memories for me. Apparently, my sister was taking me to school on my first day. I decided that I didn't want to go, so I just clung to those railing and wouldn't let go. My sister, who was 7, had to fetch mum to take me home. Can you imagine a 7 year old taking her 5 year old brother to school these days?
Also, we used to climb up those railings and walk along them, until Trevor Beard slipped and the spear point railing pierced his upper thigh. He will never forget that!
Sorry about the umbrella crack Buller, couldn't resist it. We also use them for 9 months of the year over here, that sun is so hot at the beach!

bullerboY
19-05-2012, 08:03
You had better bring that umbrella with you millsie cos its peeing it down over here,you will not need it for the sun thats for sure.George Tew with his little bald patch.We used to go in that wood when it had a pond in it after the rain and I walked through it with my wellies on yep it came well over the top talk about fill yer boots I got a right crack when I got home.Skippy mentioned Egger Wallace King wello never saw him without them even in summer.

bullerboY
19-05-2012, 08:05
Millsie let me know if you come to Sheffield and I will give you a CD of the Longley School reunion.

millsie
19-05-2012, 08:40
Thanks bullerboY, be some memories in that lot. I will definitely be coming a couple of times to Sheffield between June 1 -30, I still have 2 sisters & 2 brothers living there, but still working out my itinerary. Not doing any special trips this time except a couple of days in my beloved Derbyshire, just family visits in London & Sheffield. Will email you from UK of dates up North and shout you a pint if you're around, will have plenty of freedom this trip as my wife will be in the Seychelles for a couple of months. Hope that you have a motorised wheel-chair, too many hills around Shirecliffe for a Zimmer frame. And don't worry the weather, the sun always shines when I'm there! I'm was thinking of bringing Skippy with me, but probably have trouble getting him back in the country. He didn't pay 10 pounds like me, he was deported! See you Millsie

bullerboY
19-05-2012, 08:49
That would be good we could have a pint in the dev and have a walk round.I am in Germany from the 28th june,dont worry about the Zimmer I'll come on my Harley.I didn't know you got deported nicking from Tugbys,there must be a lot from shercliffe in Oz.

millsie
19-05-2012, 09:02
It was only a magazine for crying out loud, no worse than you reading my Dandy, Beano & Eagle before you delivered it! Sounds like the Devonshire still hasn't got a better class of drinkers since I was last in there then!

bullerboY
19-05-2012, 09:11
Wouldn't know about that only ever been in once but its a step above the timbertops and the fivearches has gone now.Saved me a fortune reading all your comics,but we used to nick from Shaws and you dint get deported from there.

skippy
19-05-2012, 12:02
I got sent here for not returning my library book Millsie, but I can travel back on my Ozzie passport now, ha ha.
I remember 3 kids from Musgrave or Crumpsall getting sent to borstal for climbing through an open window at the coop at night and stealing fags, I think it was on the third time that they got caught, but can't remember who they were now.
I remember the chews or Tews, there were 3 boys and a girl, George, Allen, John and ?, Graham ? lived 2 doors away from the Tews, but on Shirecliffe Rd, I was his best man when he got married, there was also a Stuart Maycock that lived around that area too.

millsie
19-05-2012, 13:05
Wasn't me, probably the buller gang, he did Shaws you know.
Yep, Southey Green Library were a tough nut to to crack. You had to keep to that return-by date stamp, when you borrowed Just William books, there was a waiting list. By the way, did you run into a Tom Prior (a Geordie) when you were at Mt. Penang?

bullerboY
19-05-2012, 17:33
Its like listening to Norman Evans over the garden wall with you two HaHa.It sounds like you are near neighbours.No the Buller gang were too smart to get caught and we saw Emergency999 6 times at the Forum without getting caught,we used to get in through the bog window,we had to be careful cos Neville Roe's dad was commisionaire and he was a big bloke.I saw Nev at Shirecliffe open day a month ago and reminded him of his dad.There are a lot of times I wish we had been caught and sent to Oz cos we are sick of bloody Rolf Harris being here.

millsie
20-05-2012, 11:05
It has been said to me more than once that sending Rolf Harris to England was Australia's payback for having to put up with me! Don't know why they say that.

skippy
20-05-2012, 11:51
Millsie and I are are almost neighbours Buller, he lives 90 minutes north of Sydney, and we live 90 minutes south, so we are very close by aussie standards, I used to drive where he lives several times a week over a fourteen year period in my last job.

Most of the people in the job I was in were mostly from Britain Millsie, but I can't remember any of the names of the people I met nowadays, apart from our local centre, as I met so many, so unless he worked in the administration office where they booked the prisoners in, I wouldn't have met him.

Fancy making the 7 ponds into a suburb, it was a great place to go and drop a line and relax during the long summer evenings, and the Longley pool, which is now history also, was a great place to meet new friends etc, I'll leave the etc to your imagination.

millsie
20-05-2012, 13:40
My brother Alan used to go to various places fishing,and often brought fish home (alive) and put them in the ponds so that he could catch them again when he fished the 7 ponds. Don't suppose any of you guys know anyone in the Hallamshire Harriers? My dad used to run with them in the 20's & 30's and I 'm trying to look up some old photos or archival stuff of him.

Millsie and I are are almost neighbours Buller, he lives 90 minutes north of Sydney, and we live 90 minutes south, so we are very close by aussie standards, I used to drive where he lives several times a week over a fourteen year period in my last job.

Most of the people in the job I was in were mostly from Britain Millsie, but I can't remember any of the names of the people I met nowadays, apart from our local centre, as I met so many, so unless he worked in the administration office where they booked the prisoners in, I wouldn't have met him.

Fancy making the 7 ponds into a suburb, it was a great place to go and drop a line and relax during the long summer evenings, and the Longley pool, which is now history also, was a great place to meet new friends etc, I'll leave the etc to your imagination.

bullerboY
20-05-2012, 20:50
It has been said to me more than once that sending Rolf Harris to England was Australia's payback for having to put up with me! Don't know why they say that.Oh I can imagine millsie I really can.:D:D

bullerboY
20-05-2012, 20:52
Millsie,did Tony Holbrook live at the end of the drive he was mick Edisons cousin.

millsie
20-05-2012, 23:26
Yes, the Holbrooks lived at no. 2, the dad was a bus driver, Tony & Shirley were quite a bit older than me though. They were related to the Edisons & the Gregory's.
Do you know a Tony Holland, he used to live in those old houses on Herries Road / Moonshine Lane corner? We went to Longley school together. In our late teens, we used to meet twice a year as I played soccer for Dormer Tools & he played for Spear & Jacksons or Firth Browns. I remember in no. 10 on the Drive, the mid-wife. She had family in Leeds, I used to play with her nephew when they came over, and I went to stay with them in Leeds. Big adventure when I was 10. I don't suppose the WM Clubs still run the annual sea-side trips do they, I used to go on 2 or 3 trips a year, neighbours used to get spare tickets for us. Probably glad to get me off the Drive for a day!
Some of the neighbours used to work at Bassetts, and again we got some Freebies. Many years later, when I used to work in Sydney in Engineering, we used to make confectionery machinery for Bassetts. Always hoped that they would send me over there to help set them up, but never did. Couldn't afford to come to UK very often in those days, it was very expensive and flat out feeding a family. See ya.

bullerboY
21-05-2012, 08:13
I think Tony has been dead a few years now.I vaguely remember Tony Holland there was also Desmond Housley who lived at the end one on Moonshine Lane.I think a couple of the clubs do trips but noway like they used too.I always went with Southey but my mother and aunt were stewardess''so I was always frantic trying to change my ticket to another coach,every time we have a run to Cleethorpes it brings back the good old memorys.When I had my garage business in Hillsbro I did work for a lot of people from Bassetts and they always brought us big boxes of seconds we had that many I could have opened a shop.cheers for now.