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OntarioOwl
09-04-2007, 19:55
On April 23, 2007 a new book, written partly from an Owl perspective, and partly from the perspective of the blunts, will hit the stores. Many of you may have seen the two principle authors speak about this book on local media, and no doubt many of the more blinkered of you will aready have dismissed it as another "hoolie book", but that is far from being the case.
Whilst it is true that there are stories of clashes involving the EBRA/OCS and the SRA/BBC, these tales are in the minority, and most of the book focuses on the history of the Steel City Derby. from 1889 to the present day.

The principle Owls author is Mr Anthony Cronshaw, who has followed the fortunes of our beloved club for almost 50 years. I have assisted Tony, both in a writing and editing capacity, but the credit must go to Tony for putting together a book that will define a sporting rivalry. I cannot comment on the Blades side of the tale, as I have not seen it, but the Owls side is a bloody quality read, and here is a taster.

The following text is the Intro, written by myself, and should not be reproduced anywhere else as the copyright is owned by the authors.

The city of Sheffield sits nestled between seven hills, and has lifeblood of five rivers to feed it. The town was already becoming a giant of the industrial revolution long before it achieved city status in 1893, and has for centuries carried a reputation for quality steel and steel products unmatched by any other city in the world, but Sheffield is not only a giant of industry, it also a giant of the sport of Association Football, and its pedigree in the development of the game, loved around the world, is just as impressive as its industrial achievements, although maybe not as well-known.

The worlds oldest football club (Sheffield F.C), oldest ground (Sandygate Road), first ever football tournament (Youden Cup), first floodlit match (Bramall Lane – 1878), and first ever county Football Association (Sheffield & Hallamshire FA), are among the gifts that the steel city has given to the world of sport. The city is also one of the few in England that can boast two professional teams, but it also a city so often ignored by the mainstream media, especially where its football teams are concerned. Sheffield may lack the glamour of London, or Manchester, but what it lacks in glamour it makes up for in grit and determination. The people of Sheffield have an intense streak of stubborn pride inbuilt into them. Maybe that comes from hundreds of years of fierce independence from the path of conformity, or maybe it is just pig headedness? Either way the citizens of Sheffield are not afraid to say what they think and they are also not afraid to embrace the things they love, and be damned with the consequences.

One thing that the people of Sheffield love with a passion is the game they helped to build, football. They love the game, and they love their football teams, Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United, even though history shows that the clubs rarely give back, in terms of success, anywhere near what they take, but we love them just the same. I recently stumbled across a website where some 36 percent of people surveyed said that the football rivalry in Sheffield does not match that in other large British cities. All I can say to that is those surveyed have obviously never taken in the spectacle of a full-blooded steel city derby. They have never felt the passion flooding down onto the field from both the blue and red side of the stadium. They have never seen the looks of joy and despair on the faces of those hard-nosed South Yorkshire folk at the final whistle, when their team has won or lost. A steel city derby can match the passion of almost any sporting fixture anywhere in the world, and it is a fixture that can deeply divide families and workplaces, almost to breaking point.

In this book we will examine the history of the steel city derby, both on and off the field of play. We will look at the bitter rivalry played out by 22 men chasing a ball, and we will look at the bitter rivalry played out by hundreds of warring football supporters. In every context the struggle for supremacy, between red and blue, is absolute, and to the people of Sheffield, it is never just a game!!!

rubydazzler
09-04-2007, 19:58
Did they go on Look North to publicise it? Got a right slagging off from Christa Ackroyd and never got to say anything about the book, cos she went off on one about football hooliganism. Harry Gration was too scared to open his mouth, by the looks of him!

Ally68
09-04-2007, 19:59
Didn't really get the promotion you were looking for on Look Leeds though did you?

:hihi:

Suffice to say not read the other books so will not be lining your pockets with this either.

canadablade
09-04-2007, 20:53
Didn't really get the promotion you were looking for on Look Leeds though did you?

:hihi:

Suffice to say not read the other books so will not be lining your pockets with this either.

Oh come on Ally, Nowt wrong with Ontario Owl, very sound lad as it goes and a good mate of mine, even had him at my wedding :thumbsup:
If everyone thinks like you hes never going to stick his hand in his pocket at the pub :hihi:

OntarioOwl
09-04-2007, 21:03
Oh come on Ally, Nowt wrong with Ontario Owl, very sound lad as it goes and a good mate of mine, even had him at my wedding :thumbsup:
If everyone thinks like you hes never going to stick his hand in his pocket at the pub :hihi:

Cheers Pea. Hows things matey? I'm actually no making no money from sales on this book. I received a fee for services rendered, and that's it.

First time I have been on this site for some time (over 6 months).

canadablade
09-04-2007, 21:16
Cheers Pea. Hows things matey? I'm actually no making no money from sales on this book. I received a fee for services rendered, and that's it.

First time I have been on this site for some time (over 6 months).
You aren't missing much :hihi:

Going to The Dominican Republic in a couple of weeks time on an all inclusive, will give you a bell after we get back and we can go try them Yorkshire fishcakes and chips you were on about.

Pm your phone number, I am sure its changed from the one i have now you are a worldwide renowned author :thumbsup:

OntarioOwl
09-04-2007, 23:31
You aren't missing much :hihi:

Going to The Dominican Republic in a couple of weeks time on an all inclusive, will give you a bell after we get back and we can go try them Yorkshire fishcakes and chips you were on about.

Pm your phone number, I am sure its changed from the one i have now you are a worldwide renowned author :thumbsup:

I've been going to this new site a fair bit http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/

I'm off back to blighty on the 19th for the book launch....only stopping 5 days mind, so call me when you get back and we'll sort summat out pal. My number should be the same 905-92*1*1* (fill in the blanks matey).

happyhippy
10-04-2007, 02:09
Did they go on Look North to publicise it? Got a right slagging off from Christa Ackroyd and never got to say anything about the book, cos she went off on one about football hooliganism. Harry Gration was too scared to open his mouth, by the looks of him!

That was probably because Herr Grating has no idea where Sheffield is, and didn't want to make himself look any more stupid than he usually does, and The Ackroyd was just hoping of a mention of Bradford so she could say,

" ....... a story on all of our footsteps there in Bradford, which brings every viewer back home to Weeds, and once again they heroically lost ..........."

WednesdayMad
13-05-2007, 11:30
Look North ********.

WednesdayMad
13-05-2007, 11:35
Good read Mr's. Allen and Cronshaw.
Bought it from HMV a couple of weeks ago.
Went to the Sheff Wed City Owls store in the Co-Op. Not on sale there. What are Sheff Wed thinking about? Not selling a book on the history of the Sheffield derbies.
Sheff Wed losing out on sales.

OntarioOwl
14-05-2007, 21:43
Good read Mr's. Allen and Cronshaw.
Bought it from HMV a couple of weeks ago.
Went to the Sheff Wed City Owls store in the Co-Op. Not on sale there. What are Sheff Wed thinking about? Not selling a book on the history of the Sheffield derbies.
Sheff Wed losing out on sales.

Cheers for the comments matey. Much appreciated.

Mr. A

nortonlees15
19-05-2007, 07:55
read this book and the wednesday side is very very good, the early years from 1867 where excellent and its nice to see somebody actually going into the history of the club and of sheffield big tees done a good job, i was told there is a plaque in a wall somewhere around olive grove marking where wednesdays ground was, anybody know where it is? anyway the downside to this book is the united side of it, 3 pages of introduction slagging wednesday off with childish comments and then a rehash of his 1st book and photos of the author,which have been seen before, its all about me me me, why put something in the book saying wednesday have only history? and then in the next sentence say wednesday have not won at bramall lane since 1967? what sort of statement is that? anyway more books on sheffield by big tee please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OliveGrove
05-03-2008, 15:03
i was told there is a plaque in a wall somewhere around olive grove marking where wednesdays ground was, anybody know where it is?

It's hard to explain if you don't know where olive grove was. The Olive Grovebus depot is near it. You walk away from the bus depot to the T-Junction, the railway line should be on your right hand side.

Cross over the road and it's on the wall next to a bus stop.

That is from memory, so I may not be 100% right. But basically the railway line ran alongside the ground. There isn't anything to see around the area, which is mainly industrial railway stuff.

Please look out for our Sheffield wednesday book. 'Spiksley; Flying over an Olive Grove.' Which is being written and will probably be finished in a couple of years time. Check Spiksley out on Wikipedia. The book will contain an in depth study of most of the seasons between 1891 and 1903 for Sheffield wednesday, including extensive writing on the 1896 FA cup run and 1903 League Championship. It will also include never seen before pictures of Wednesday including; live action photographs of the 1896 fa cup final and live action pictures taken from within the Olive Grove ground.

Any questions with regards to the book, please feel free to email me at clive_w_nicholson@yahoo.co.uk