kerry just conceded, he saw the light at last.

BEST MAN WON.

How can the best man have won ? He conceded :suspect:

Or for a little more detail:

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/election.main/index.html

:roll:

Four more years of "turism", "nukular" and "folks". Plus, more seriously, a mandate for all-out armageddon in the Middle East once Wolfowitz and his gang really start to motor.

Today is a very sad day :(

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't!

God help us all. :help:

Well president blair must be encouraged by the news (even if I am shocked at the stupidty of the majority of US citizens).

How utterly depressing.

After hearing about the high turnout I began to believe that there was some hope that Kerry would get in.

I have never experienced such widespread dissappointment amongst my colleagues (of all political persuasions) over an election result, not even British elections!

I'm tempted now to think that the US is truelly a nation of idiots after this result, but that is an unfair expression of my own dissappointment. After all, we will probably vote Blair back in next year.

Bugger

M

Should I start storing up on tinned food and build a shelter in the Garden?

If this is the case it is a bl**dy sad day. Another four years with that psychopathic muppet bush is bad news for the world. Shame on the americans that voted him in!!!

Mattski,
Your posting reminds me how easily English people resort to anti-American sentiment. You are tempted to view the USA as a "nation of idiots" are you? Well, I'd fight for your right to say that, but I don't agree with your sentiments. What strikes me is that there appear to be "acceptable" scapegoats out there; certain countries and ethnic groups which people have no hesitation to openly insult. For example, your temptation to describe America [a vast continent of diverse peoples] as "idiotic", and the easy targets like Ulster Protestants, White South Africans etc.

Wonder where things will go from here then?
Kerry provided a glimmer of hope that some sanity may be brought back into American politics, but with Bush there for another 4 years I think that America will be a very run down country by the end of his rule.
My sympathy goes to those who voted for Kerry, and to those that voted Bush in... well they brought it all on themselves.

Mattski, though I stand by my point re "acceptable scapegoats", I was a bit too quick off the mark there. To be fair to you, you do say it would be "unfair" to think that. Fair enough. No offence to you, mate.

Originally posted by poppins
kerry just conceded, he saw the light at last.

BEST MAN WON.

NOT SO !!!
Kerry is the best man, he had as many votes as Bush, but due to the electoral college system, he was robbed of the Presidency.

Bush and his policys have been a disaster for America and for the World.

Originally posted by halevan
NOT SO !!!
Kerry is the best man, he had as many votes as Bush, but due to the electoral college system, he was robbed of the Presidency.

Bush and his policys have been a disaster for America and for the World.

According to BBC News 24 a few mins ago, Bush has/ is expected to have 58million votes to Kerry's 55million votes, so I'm not quite sure what the basis for your statement is?

HELEVAN

Do you get the same CNN news as we do ?

Bad news for us I fear. Blair will now find it impossible to divorce himself, - and us, from US foreign policy, even if he wanted to.

Right - what's next on the list ? ....Iran I think. Shouldn't take more than a few cruise missiles to wipe out that nuclear facility of theirs and it will divert attention from all the body bags coming in from Iraq
:rolleyes:

Great news bush gets back in,the most important thing is that he won the popular vote with an extra 3 million votes so he has the mandate of the people and that is what matters.
He has also increased the republican strenght in both houses so he has done a great job for the republican party.
I will however give Kerry credit for his speech conceding to bush he came across as a good american .:thumbsup:

Originally posted by t020
According to BBC News 24 a few mins ago, Bush has/ is expected to have 58million votes to Kerry's 55million votes, so I'm not quite sure what the basis for your statement is?

There are tens of thousands of uncounted votes yet and the American peoples vote is split right down the middle, so THINK before making daft statements!!! RIGHT ??? :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

Originally posted by poppins
kerry just conceded, he saw the light at last.

BEST MAN WON.

That must be a typo, surely you mean BENT.

Our only hope now is Bin Laden. If you're reading this Osama, please do the world a favour and wipe that smug grin off his monkey face.

Originally posted by halevan
There are tens of thousands of uncounted votes yet and the American peoples vote is split right down the middle, so THINK before making daft statements!!! RIGHT ??? :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

Tens of thousands won't make up a 3 million deficit... :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

Originally posted by alchresearch
That must be a typo, surely you mean BENT.

Our only hope now is Bin Laden. If you're reading this Osama, please do the world a favour and wipe that smug grin off his monkey face.


I really can't believe you can say that.

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That comment is well out of order,my god you are really plumbing the depths now .
To ask for a murderous terrorist to do bad stuff to the DEMOCRATIC elected president shoes the true extent of the left in this country and dont for one minute pretend to be anything else.
And you wonder why Poppins thinks like he or she does???

Congratulations to George Bush.

Let's face it, no matter who was in power when the towers were brought down, they could not have done anything about it. What Bush did do is act. Fair enough he is heavy handed but as far as i know, America has had NO terrorist attacks since.
The people of America have obviously noted this and that is why 58 million of them came out to support a good man who is doing a good job under extreme conditions.
And Tony Blair will win next year because there is no one out there better than him to do the job. He'll get my vote until the day that fact changes.

Originally posted by Funke88
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't!

Not sure about this, but I don't understand the hype over Scary Kerry. One look at him was enough to put me off. He's like something from an old Boris Karloff movie.

Watching him on tv, he changed his mind several times on his Iraq policies. What he needs is a decent slogan like 'Hasta La Vista, Baby'

Originally posted by alchresearch

Our only hope now is Bin Laden. If you're reading this Osama, please do the world a favour and wipe that smug grin off his monkey face.

Please change this to 'My only hope' as you certainly do not speak for me with this
idiotic rubbish. Perhaps you ought to stick your brain in gear before your mouth accelerates (figuratively speaking).

Originally posted by alchresearch
That must be a typo, surely you mean BENT.

Our only hope now is Bin Laden. If you're reading this Osama, please do the world a favour and wipe that smug grin off his monkey face.
Are you for real? :nono:

Originally posted by halevan
NOT SO !!!
Kerry is the best man, he had as many votes as Bush, but due to the electoral college system, he was robbed of the Presidency.

Bush and his policys have been a disaster for America and for the World.
Think back exactly four years ago. Anyone remember AL GORE. He was robbed too, as I remember. Things might have been so different!

Originally posted by draggletail
Think back exactly four years ago. Anyone remember AL GORE. He was robbed too, as I remember. Things might have been so different!

Robbed TOO? Who else was robbed? Bush walked this election with quite a clear majority, so Kerry most certainly wasn't robbed.

I would not wish another 9/11 on anyone. But it has to be said that American foreign policy and the phoney war on terrorism were not deciding factors in this election.

I note that the more educated cosatal states with a better world view voted for Kerry. The mid-US states who made Bushes majority chose to vote against gay marrige instead.....

Originally posted by royjames
To ask for a murderous terrorist to do bad stuff to the DEMOCRATIC elected president shoes the true extent of the left in this country and dont for one minute pretend to be anything else.

Wrong AGAIN. I'm far right.

Who ever won, I doubt things would really be that much different.

They all base their decisions on information available to them, looking back on the history of things it was the likes of CIA and others that fed the data and advised on the policies that one man ordered to be carried out. The same will be the case again and again.

If changes are to be expected the world will need to stand up to what I see is a form of accepted dictatorship. We in UK are scared to sign policies with reference to europe cause we will loose rights and our independance will be questioned, while other countries get the **** kicked out of them and forced into a new management system simply because America dosnt like it - some democracy that is.

I wonder where all this will lead our Planet in another 10 years. Even being communist or other if chosen by the people living there it is a excuted right of freedom (not the best choice for people but if they want it whats it do with us). As for weapons and even terrosims to an extent, its all there for a reason, and America is making use of it to get its own way (executing its foreign policies for its own gains and even UK is alongside to benefit). Where are the weapons in Iraq anyways?

Originally posted by kilauea

I note that the more educated cosatal states with a better world view voted for Kerry. The mid-US states who made Bushes majority chose to vote against gay marrige instead.....


There does seem to have been an anti-liberal reaction that the Democrats miscalculated.

Kerry has arguably done the Democrats a big favour by losing this election. America is in a mess largely of Bush's making so it's really quite approriate that he and his cronies have the job of cleaning it up. Extricating American forces from Iraq, and reversing the rapidly escalating budget deficit, are going to require painful and unpopular measures.

Had Kerry won this election his administration would been blamed for the pain, but in four years time his successor will have this pain as a stick to beat the Repbulicans with. And it could be a big stick if America is humiliated in Iraq, or taxes have to be raised, or there is a serious run on the dollar etc.

The decisiveness of this election will give the Rebulicans every opportunity to overreach themselves and American resources, - I'm confident they'll do so.

Originally posted by mohanali


If changes are to be expected the world will need to stand up to what I see is a form of accepted dictatorship. We in UK are scared to sign policies with reference to europe cause we will loose rights and our independance will be questioned, while other countries get the **** kicked out of them and forced into a new management system simply because America dosnt like it - some democracy that is.




This declared aim of Bush to bring democracy to the Middle East is no more than a front to secure oil supplies. If Bush is so concerned about this issue why hasn't he insisted that the Saudi royal family abdicate in favour of a democratically elected government ? Similarly America is quite comfortable dealing with the military dictatorship in Pakistan.

If he's on a genuine "crusade" to democratise the world perhaps he should be sending missionaries to China :rolleyes:

I don't know any sane, rational thinking British person who would have liked George Bush to win.

It made me giggle this morning, listening to a certain feature on Chris Moyles' breakfast show. One of the callers made their money by buying a load of old tat, Bargain Hunt stylee, and then selling it with a 2000% mark-up on eBay to Americans who fell for the lingo. Chris commented that her job was to make Americans look stupid. I thought to myself, with George Bush winning the election, they're doing a pretty good job of making themselves look stupid.

Originally posted by vidster
Let's face it, no matter who was in power when the towers were brought down, they could not have done anything about it. What Bush did do is act. Fair enough he is heavy handed but as far as i know, America has had NO terrorist attacks since.

You sound like you need my elephant repellent.

Originally posted by Sidla
I thought to myself, with George Bush winning the election, they're doing a pretty good job of making themselves look stupid.

Come on Sid, be fair, not all Americans voted for him, only 58 million.

Bush winning doesn't really hurt anyone in the UK or the US.

The people it hurts are those civilians in Iran, Syria, North Korea or wherever it is they decide to attack next.

I remember last time, commentators said that because it was so close and contentious the Republicans would try and run a more concilliatory/compromising administration. Yeah, that really happened didn't it!

I just hope one day your average American (or at least 55% of them) realises that there long term interests are not served by alienating the rest of the world.

http://www.distopia.com/wake/