View Full Version : Stand by for 12 month's disruption on St. Mary's road


Greybeard
02-04-2007, 12:18
First I've seen on this....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/6516977.stm

The city council said: "The works will see a bottleneck relieved, helping to improve journey times for all modes of transport, and also new facilities for buses and their passengers, cyclists and pedestrians."

...so the new lane will be a bus lane ???

pberry
02-04-2007, 12:26
...so the new lane will be a bus lane ???

I don't know how you worked that out, unless you're being sarcastic :) I think they might be putting in a lay-by type of bus stop so as not to hold traffic up if buses stop. The policy of holding traffic up only applies within the ring road ;)

The point is the ring road is at least two lanes each direction all the way round, except the St Mary's Road bit clockwise. The works will ensure it's widened to two.

*_ash_*
02-04-2007, 13:51
First I've seen on this....

ditto


The point is the ring road is at least two lanes each direction all the way round, except the St Mary's Road bit clockwise. The works will ensure it's widened to two.


I can't think how they could widen this bit, short of demolishing the Standard, and/or losing the footpath where the old DC Cook was:confused:

Also why 12 months? It's only about two hundred yards.

pberry
02-04-2007, 14:11
I can't think how they could widen this bit, short of demolishing the Standard, and/or losing the footpath where the old DC Cook was:confused:

There's just about enough space, though I imagine the Royal Standard will lose its front yard, and the old garage canopy by the Shoreham Street lights will have to come down.

Also why 12 months? It's only about two hundred yards.

That I can't answer ;)

spartan
02-04-2007, 14:52
why 12 months

Tyranna
02-04-2007, 15:59
Saw this as well just a few minutes ago.

Here it is in full:



Work begins at city 'bottleneck'
Motorists in Sheffield have been warned to expect delays as work begins to widen one of the city's busiest roads.
A second lane is being added to St Mary's Road near Granville Square to improve journey times as the existing single-lane causes traffic queues.

The roadworks are expected to take 12 months to complete.

John Bann, head of transport and highways in Sheffield, said: "This is a step towards relieving congestion at one of the busiest points in the city."

The city council said: "The works will see a bottleneck relieved, helping to improve journey times for all modes of transport, and also new facilities for buses and their passengers, cyclists and pedestrians."


My guess is that it will take 12 months because they will only close off traffic lanes at off peaks/night time to minimise disruption; I've noticed this happening near Pond St. a few weeks back.

Also, ancillary works, such as cycle lanes, seem to take longer to finally plan and put in place after the main parts of the scheme, again from previous experience.

cgksheff
02-04-2007, 16:06
St Mary’s Road
The road will be widened to four lanes between Granville Square and Leadmill Road. This will provide two ahead lanes on the ring road and will remove the jostling between vehicles that currently takes place outside the Royal Standard public house.
Traffic emerging from Edmund Road will be forced to turn left. This will prevent the dangerous right\left manoeuvre that some drivers currently take into Matilda Street.
A red/green man (pelican) crossing will be provided across the bottom of Matilda Street.
The footway on the west side of St Mary’s Road will be widened to provide an off-road cycle path alongside the footway. This will run from Granville Square to Bramall Lane.

http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/roads-and-transport/schemes-projects/granville-gyratory-phase-3-traffic-proposals#marys

http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/EasySite/lib/serveDocument.asp?doc=72594&pgid=90136

Trickle
02-04-2007, 17:04
Cars will then be able to use both lanes on Granville road. Finally.

*_ash_*
02-04-2007, 23:43
I noticed in the Star it is now called the Granville Square Gyratory :hihi:

Engineer1951
04-04-2007, 14:45
why 12 months

I've extracted the details of everything that is going to be done from the description on the Council website and listed them below. As you can see there is a lot to do, and because it involves widening, then any services like telephones, gas, water etc. have to be moved before you start construction. If you going to do all this and try to minimise the disruption it will cause then it is going to take some time to achieve.

Granville Square
Widening a section of the junction between Queens Road and St Mary’s Road to three lanes to improve traffic flow. This should help reduce the queues on Granville Road and Queens Road at peak times.
All the crossings of the junction will be made into signal controlled ‘Toucan’ crossings to allow their use by both pedestrians and cycles.
Farm Road will be re-designed to be accessed from Queens Road. This will remove the conflicts that occur here regularly on exit from Granville Square and make it easier for pedestrians to cross.
The out-of-city bus stop on Queens Road will be re-located into a layby such that it will be closer to Castle College and stationary buses will not block other traffic at the junction.
The cycle lane on Suffolk Road will be continued into Queens Road.

St Mary’s Road
The road will be widened to four lanes between Granville Square and Leadmill Road. This will provide two ahead lanes on the ring road and will remove the jostling between vehicles that currently takes place outside the Royal Standard public house.
Traffic emerging from Edmund Road will be forced to turn left. This will prevent the dangerous right\left manoeuvre that some drivers currently take into Matilda Street.
A red/green man (pelican) crossing will be provided across the bottom of Matilda Street.
The footway on the west side of St Mary’s Road will be widened to provide an off-road cycle path alongside the footway. This will run from Granville Square to Bramall Lane.

Leadmill Road / Fornham Street
A new signal controlled cycle/pedestrian (toucan) crossing will be provided to improve access by bike, improve pedestrian safety and to accommodate the number of pedestrians and cyclists crossing here, which is likely to rise as a result of new residential developments in this area.

Matilda Street / Sidney Street
The left turn from Sidney Street (Brown Street side) into Matilda Street is to be improved to make it suitable for all vehicles and therefore a more appropriate ‘access loop’ from the Heart of the City.
Better crossing facilities will be provided for pedestrians.
The right turn from Sidney Street (Sylvester Street side) will be prevented. This has been done to reduce conflicts, by reducing crossing distances and turning manoeuvres. This route was only created in the last phase of this scheme - when Matilda Street was made two-way down to Shoreham Street and the right turn was introduced at the Eyre Street/Jessop Street junction.

Furnival Street
The existing pelican crossing will be removed and will be replaced by a zebra crossing close to the junction with Arundel Street. It has been observed that the current crossing is not well used and that there are many pedestrians having difficulty crossing at Arundel Street. This was also a request made in consultation on phases 1 and 2.

*_ash_*
04-04-2007, 14:51
why 12 months
I've extracted the details of everything that is going to be done from the description on the Council website and listed them below. As you can see there is a lot to do, and because it involves widening, then any services like telephones, gas, water etc. have to be moved before you start construction. If you going to do all this and try to minimise the disruption it will cause then it is going to take some time to achieve.

Granville Square
Widening a section of the junction between Queens Road and St Mary’s Road to three lanes to improve traffic flow. This should help reduce the queues on Granville Road and Queens Road at peak times.
All the crossings of the junction will be made into signal controlled ‘Toucan’ crossings to allow their use by both pedestrians and cycles.
Farm Road will be re-designed to be accessed from Queens Road. This will remove the conflicts that occur here regularly on exit from Granville Square and make it easier for pedestrians to cross.
The out-of-city bus stop on Queens Road will be re-located into a layby such that it will be closer to Castle College and stationary buses will not block other traffic at the junction.
The cycle lane on Suffolk Road will be continued into Queens Road.

St Mary’s Road
The road will be widened to four lanes between Granville Square and Leadmill Road. This will provide two ahead lanes on the ring road and will remove the jostling between vehicles that currently takes place outside the Royal Standard public house.
Traffic emerging from Edmund Road will be forced to turn left. This will prevent the dangerous right\left manoeuvre that some drivers currently take into Matilda Street.
A red/green man (pelican) crossing will be provided across the bottom of Matilda Street.
The footway on the west side of St Mary’s Road will be widened to provide an off-road cycle path alongside the footway. This will run from Granville Square to Bramall Lane.

Leadmill Road / Fornham Street
A new signal controlled cycle/pedestrian (toucan) crossing will be provided to improve access by bike, improve pedestrian safety and to accommodate the number of pedestrians and cyclists crossing here, which is likely to rise as a result of new residential developments in this area.

Matilda Street / Sidney Street
The left turn from Sidney Street (Brown Street side) into Matilda Street is to be improved to make it suitable for all vehicles and therefore a more appropriate ‘access loop’ from the Heart of the City.
Better crossing facilities will be provided for pedestrians.
The right turn from Sidney Street (Sylvester Street side) will be prevented. This has been done to reduce conflicts, by reducing crossing distances and turning manoeuvres. This route was only created in the last phase of this scheme - when Matilda Street was made two-way down to Shoreham Street and the right turn was introduced at the Eyre Street/Jessop Street junction.

Furnival Street
The existing pelican crossing will be removed and will be replaced by a zebra crossing close to the junction with Arundel Street. It has been observed that the current crossing is not well used and that there are many pedestrians having difficulty crossing at Arundel Street. This was also a request made in consultation on phases 1 and 2.

Sounds about 12 months to me. Thanks for the repsonse.

I know you have included reasons, but it seems quite a lot of work just to make a short section slightly wider:hihi:

sheffield1
04-04-2007, 20:32
I could be wrong, but it doesnt seem that long since it was altered into a 'Gyratory'

growler
05-04-2007, 04:34
Thought that was the only part of the city that still moved is the objective total gridlock