View Full Version : Why wont ppl employ me


curtis
31-10-2004, 01:16
I am in a signed band so i have to be able to get off work early some days. I have my lip pierced, stretched ears. I have good grades i have c in english n maths. But no one will employ me. I think i should sue all of the companys.

kirky
31-10-2004, 07:06
Originally posted by curtis
I am in a signed band so i have to be able to get off work early some days. I have my lip pierced, stretched ears. I have good grades i have c in english n maths. But no one will employ me. I think i should sue all of the companys.

why not smarten ya sen up a bit:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Titian
31-10-2004, 08:58
Originally posted by curtis
I am in a signed band so i have to be able to get off work early some days. I have my lip pierced, stretched ears. I have good grades i have c in english n maths. But no one will employ me. I think i should sue all of the companys.

Are you saying that you really don't know why?
Maybe you need to apply for something more in your field. The fact that you need to get off work early will put employers off. It shows a lack of commitment to them.

slh73
31-10-2004, 10:13
Its probably the getting off early bit. Ive got 16mm lobes, a pierced septum, and a lot of tattoo work, yet Ive worked for a government department, and am currently working in electronics. As someone else says, telling them you need to go early on certain days shows a lack of commitment.

angel_b
31-10-2004, 18:10
I also have stretched ears, a pierced nose, septum, labret and tragus with considerable tattoo work. Never stopped me getting a job or keeping one. As others have said, you need to have more flexibility for an employer to take you seriously.

miniminch
31-10-2004, 18:36
Originally posted by angel_b
I also have stretched ears, a pierced nose, septum, labret and tragus with considerable tattoo work. Never stopped me getting a job or keeping one. As others have said, you need to have more flexibility for an employer to take you seriously.


Are you a human?

max
31-10-2004, 19:34
Originally posted by curtis
I am in a signed band so i have to be able to get off work early some days. I have my lip pierced, stretched ears. I have good grades i have c in english n maths. But no one will employ me. I think i should sue all of the companys.

Read your own post, a few clues in there.

angel_b
31-10-2004, 21:49
Originally posted by miniminch
Are you a human?

Yes, and an extremely reliable and hard working one at that.

kirky
02-11-2004, 08:27
if you need to leave work early everyday why not get a job with the council

angel_b
02-11-2004, 09:08
I don't whether Kirky was being sarcastic or not, but a lot of local councils operate a flexi-time scheme which would give you some flexibility.

Or maybe something like construction work - as far as I know, they start early and knock off early. Either way, you still have to put in a days work though.

goldenfleece
02-11-2004, 09:11
Originally posted by curtis
I am in a signed band


Then hassle the record company/promotor into giving you a huge advance on royalties.......

kirky
02-11-2004, 09:28
Originally posted by goldenfleece
Then hassle the record company/promotor into giving you a huge advance on royalties.......


:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

i love sarcasm (wish i could spell it though):hihi: :hihi:

owdlad
02-11-2004, 09:57
Originally posted by max
Read your own post, a few clues in there.

I agree max, his last sentence might just give away what's crossing his mind.

kirky
02-11-2004, 11:04
who'd want to employ a soap dodger anyway:confused: :confused: :confused: btw whats a stretched ear?

owdlad
02-11-2004, 12:55
Originally posted by kirky
who'd want to employ a soap dodger anyway:confused: :confused: :confused: btw whats a stretched ear?

Same as a thick ear...but longer :P :P

Andy
03-11-2004, 20:19
Originally posted by curtis
I have good grades i have c in english n maths.

And some people still say exams aren't getting easier. :loopy:

Tony
03-11-2004, 20:41
I think you've all been suckered in by a troll ;)

nathan61969
06-11-2004, 01:13
kinda hard huh that sucks but ur still cool and thats all u need to know lol.....

Yodameister
12-11-2004, 11:25
I think you probably have to learn to tell employers what they want to hear, even if you don't believe in it yourself.

If you say early on in an interview (or to be honest at any stage in an interview) "I'm going to need time off at short notice" and you phrase it exactly that way you will almost never be given a job - they will just say to themselves "why would I want to employ this person"

No employer expects you to live and breath the job 24 hours a day, but they do need to believe that you have a commitment to actually doing the job.

NatalieSheff
12-11-2004, 11:30
get a job in a night club - go to work after band practise! stop being so defeated, or get an early morning job

Maldonado
13-11-2004, 14:39
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll&r=f

1. troll

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

Yodameister
17-11-2004, 12:06
Well whether he's taking the p*** or not, people like that do exist, I knew a few of them in my student days.

Think becasue they were clever enough to go to Uni they will just be able to get a good job by falling out of bed.

graceomally
18-11-2004, 14:46
might sound s bit coy but you could try volunteering, specially if you want something particular, you can go to Voluntary Action Sheffield, 69 Division St, opposite the city hall to find out more.

IT won't help you get casual work, but in the long term it gets you a reference, shows determination and committment and ingenuity, and its much easier to get work if you are working (even if unpaid).

You can do admin, office, creative, community, etc, there used to be arts and music stuff, you get your expenses back too. Also try Millennium Volunteers, I prefer the Rotherham project but there's one in Sheffield too.

In the end it give you a chance to prove you have a brain in your head, can apply yourself, are personable, reliable etc,. Don;t take any notice of the grumpy gits, they don't seem to have anything positive or useful to say anyway.

And if you think its how you look that puts people off, make sure you smile, make good eye contact and use appropriate body language (sorry can't find a better way to phrase that) you can look like Genghis Khan or PRincess Di but the signals you give are more important than your appearance.

Also apply for loads of work, do lots of interviews, most people bugger up the first few at least, once you get the hang of doing the applications and interviews you can expect to start getting results. ITs crappy but thats life. You can ask for feedback with some jobs you don't get, but be prepared to hear things you may not like. At least you can address any changes you think they are right to suggest.

Committment - you are putting your music first - why shouldn't you? Students put study first, I put my family first, it shouldn't be a problem except as a practical issue of whether they can do it or not. Try for flexi hours office work, voluntary sector work is often very flexible and likely to really value whatever you have to offer, look for part-time stuff, just to get started.

Best of luck anyway, "don't let the ******** grind you down" as they say. Hope you find something that suits you before too long.

NatalieSheff
18-11-2004, 14:55
Originally posted by graceomally
might sound s bit coy but you could try volunteering, specially if you want something particular, you can go to Voluntary Action Sheffield, 69 Division St, opposite the city hall to find out more.


there is nothing wrong with volunteering!! its not just old fuddy duddy type people...well it mostly is, but not all;)

graceomally
18-11-2004, 23:43
definitely not mostly, more people under 30 volunteer than over 50 - last time I looked anyway!

Its just at the first suggestion people often think its a bit of a barmy idea to work for no money or else they think its not something people like them do.

Fact is almost every type of person volunteers, from 16 to 60+, bored or busy, fit or failing, and they all get plenty out of it.

ITs a seriously practical and effective way to get into paid work or work related training or study. Millennium Volunteers in Rotherham (The Guardian Centre, S65 1HY) is the best place you can go if you are under 25, or there's one in sheffield but I don't have the details.

rosh
13-12-2004, 15:27
Can you really get a C in English and not be able to spell "companies"? What is the world coming to???

Strix
13-12-2004, 18:10
My brother is having the same problem. He's got no piercings, but has long hair. I'm not convinced this is the problem (in Cambridge) but more that he's very 'cards on the table' about which hours he can't work.

Get through the interview first, then tell them about the time constraints before you accept (give them the chance to withdraw the offer). If they've made up their mind to have you already, they're more likely to be flexible than run through the whole rigmarole of choosing somebody else.

May_Dupnam
05-01-2005, 01:27
wossa troll again tony :huh: oh 's rite Maldonado told us :roll:

Lotti
12-01-2005, 13:05
I totally agree Rosh! I was just looking through the replies before I put exactly what you have already written!

As for the original question, I think some people have been a bit harsh, you can dress and look however you want, however, if you go against the tide, you need to be ready for problems to arise.

Maybe you do need to smarten yourself up a little and depending on what you're going for, depends on why you're not getting the job. If you want to work for a very reputable company meeting clients etc. they won't employ you! It's a sad fact, but if someone went in with less piercings, no stretched ears etc. and wearing a suit, they would pick them over someone who looks like how you described yourself.

You also need to be more committed. I know it's difficult, I'm disabled and I'm at college so finding something that is ok for me not being abled to walk/stand around and outside college hours is very difficult.
Keep going and be ready to negotiate your hours a little even if it means you not getting off as easy. It's how the world works - I'm 16 and I know that!

Finally, have you thought about looking for work where people who have the same style as you work. There are quite a few places in town or alternatively, you might be ok at Ant Marketing - they are always recruiting and you won't be meeting clients, just using the phones (telesales/telemarketing) they've got flexi hours and will probably take you on.
Be aware though, I've just left because I hated it! You don't always get a happy welcome when you phone people!

Good luck, and perhaps on your next CV try checking the spelling! ('companys' is actually 'companies')