http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/looknorthyorkslincs/latest_stories/index.shtml

A lottery player who invested his winnings in the Omega sauna, is tonight considering a claim against the police who have been found to have wrongly accused him of sex trafficking.

Yet as the owner of a brothel (illegal in the UK), he's not living from immoral earnings?

I know this will get to the rights and wrongs of prostitution, legal or otherwise, and will probably get pulled in the end, but here goes, here's my quid's worth.

He is innocent of sex trafficking, i.e., illegal immigrants who for whichever reason ended up in the sex trade. Fair enough.

He is quite happy to accept that he owned a brothel. Running a brothel is illegal. This description was used in the report from the esteemed organisation.

The reporter announced that the women who worked there were prostitutes. Under UK law, more than two can't work from the same premises. He's obviously happy that his venture was described as such, so why aren't the CPS pursuing a prosecution for living from immoral earnings?

I'm aware of the 'vaguearies' of what may, or may not happen in such establishments, but sheesh, when the most repected media organisation on the planet says " ...... it's the end of an era ...... he's selling his brothel .......", I do wonder whether he, just possibly, knew he had invested in and/or ran a brothel.

He even talks of "keeping the girls off the streets in a safe area (paraphrased)", which to me is a clear admission of the illegal activities therein.

To me, but not the judge.

Now I know that there were obviously mistakes made by South Yorkshire Police, which gives rise to the comment at the end of the clip, but he has effectively admitted to being a pimp, when viewed in conjunction with the BBC's comments.

The sex trade is a difficult one for lots of people to understand (I certainly don't), and to police, but if someone so blatantly admits to either running a brothel, or 'harbouring' people (who may include himself) who lived from immoral earnings, and has not been prosecuted as such, there is something radically wrong in my eyes.

Maybe a prosecution is being prepared - but its not always the wisest thing when trying to collect evidence of something which can be pretty tricky to prove to announce in the media that you are going to do it.

Why should it be pulled, it's happening in this very city? This is life, like it or otherwise. I think it will be The Star's story of today? The phrase: "The law is an ass." was used in the interview relating to this story!

http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2193921&SectionID=58

Why should it be pulled, it's happening in this very city? This is life, like it or otherwise. I think it will be The Star's story of today?

Why should what be pulled?

Why should what be pulled?

Please don't ask that kind of question when we are on the subject of a brothel.;)

LOL owdlad :hihi:

LOL owdlad :hihi:

I for one would prefer for bothels to run than have young girls down shalesmoor at all hours of they day/night.

I feel for them. They obviously are desperate or they wouldnt do it at all, but I think if it were me i'd rather be in a warm brothel than up some back alley (no pun intended)!! :P

I feel for them.

Only after you've parted with your money....Sonny ! :hihi:

I knew a woman who went to work there and was told that she couldnt have sex with any of the punters for the first 7 days as she needed to work a week in hand Geddddittttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The dropping of charges against John Elsworth, the owner of the Omega massage parlour, shows up yet again how bogus is the notion that 'trafficking' prostitutes is a significant problem.
The raid was top news and presented by the Home Office and police as to counter 'trafficking' when it was clear it was nothing of the kind. This mirrors the events in Birmingham (the Cuddles parlour), Manchester and elsewhere. 'Trafficking' of women for prostitution is a rare phenomenon, whereas illegal immigration is epidemic. (See the detailed research by Jo Doezema, and evidence from prostitutes' collectives around the world.)

The Home Office and police were trying to cover their total ineptness in dealing with illegal immigration in trying to make out that it is not us but illegal migrants who are the victims here; and victims of ordinary people in Britain (such is the complete cross-section of the male population who use massage parlours).

This is one of the routine misrepresentations by organisations -- not least South Yorkshire Police -- that have sold out to political correctness fascism.

Deliberate equating of simple cross-border movement of women for the purpose of prostitution with 'trafficking' is based on the absurd stance that by definition no woman can voluntarily take up 'sex work'. This is not merely nonsense that curtails the freedom of women, but -- and this is it's raison d'etre -- it is designed to stir up hatred towards ordinary men.

In this it is related to the cry of: 'all men are rapists', and more recently to the cry of 'all men are wife beaters'. This last is through the deliberate refusal to acknowledge the overwhelming conclusion of social science research that shows domestic violence to be mainly low level tit-for-tat, with few men to be 'wife beaters', and if anything fewer in number than female 'husband beaters' (the conclusion from now between 150 and 200 studies that have looked at domestic violence in both directions; rather than from the crime figures, which always distort the picture because nobody -- not least men themselves -- consider DV against them as a crime. But even then, the Home Office crime surveys show 30% of DV victims to be male!).

The various claptrap that PC fascism throws up is steadily being exposed, and not before time.

I look forward to police in Sheffield -- especially those at the risible 'human trafficking centre' -- finding much better things to do with their time and your money.

LOL owdlad :hihi:

I for one would prefer for bothels to run than have young girls down shalesmoor at all hours of they day/night.

I feel for them. They obviously are desperate or they wouldnt do it at all, but I think if it were me i'd rather be in a warm brothel than up some back alley (no pun intended)!! :P

I agree it should be made the same as Holland you are never going to stop it so make it safer for every one girls and punters. It seems the logical thing to me I think that is why the police do as a rule turn a blind eye to Massage parlours.

its advertised as a massage parlour,thats not illegal,as i would imagine massage does not get done in an open dormitory but behind closed doors he can say without fear that he only runs a legal massage parlour,the rest of what may go on is assumption

thats one of the reasons the police set up undercover raids,they have to have been offered sex for money before they can bring any court action,if this hasnt happened,they have no case

The dropping of charges against John Elsworth, the owner of the Omega massage parlour, shows up yet again how bogus is the notion that 'trafficking' prostitutes is a significant problem.
The raid was top news and presented by the Home Office and police as to counter 'trafficking' when it was clear it was nothing of the kind. This mirrors the events in Birmingham (the Cuddles parlour), Manchester and elsewhere. 'Trafficking' of women for prostitution is a rare phenomenon, whereas illegal immigration is epidemic. (See the detailed research by Jo Doezema, and evidence from prostitutes' collectives around the world.)

The Home Office and police were trying to cover their total ineptness in dealing with illegal immigration in trying to make out that it is not us but illegal migrants who are the victims here; and victims of ordinary people in Britain (such is the complete cross-section of the male population who use massage parlours).

This is one of the routine misrepresentations by organisations -- not least South Yorkshire Police -- that have sold out to political correctness fascism.

Deliberate equating of simple cross-border movement of women for the purpose of prostitution with 'trafficking' is based on the absurd stance that by definition no woman can voluntarily take up 'sex work'. This is not merely nonsense that curtails the freedom of women, but -- and this is it's raison d'etre -- it is designed to stir up hatred towards ordinary men.

In this it is related to the cry of: 'all men are rapists', and more recently to the cry of 'all men are wife beaters'. This last is through the deliberate refusal to acknowledge the overwhelming conclusion of social science research that shows domestic violence to be mainly low level tit-for-tat, with few men to be 'wife beaters', and if anything fewer in number than female 'husband beaters' (the conclusion from now between 150 and 200 studies that have looked at domestic violence in both directions; rather than from the crime figures, which always distort the picture because nobody -- not least men themselves -- consider DV against them as a crime. But even then, the Home Office crime surveys show 30% of DV victims to be male!).

The various claptrap that PC fascism throws up is steadily being exposed, and not before time.

I look forward to police in Sheffield -- especially those at the risible 'human trafficking centre' -- finding much better things to do with their time and your money.


Seems like you've got a few issues... :hihi: