W Rooney, with the talent he has, will now forever be man marked, as he was tonight.
He, against a player that has a part time job, got frustrated to the point where he was had to be taken off to save him from recieving a red card.
Wayne Rooney now, will be man marked every time he steps onto a football field, with the apposing managers, instructing his marking player to hassle, harrass and frustrate Wayne Rooney.
Can he handle this, going on his previous, short and turbulant career ?
I for one, IMHO think that W Rooney, could possibly set the all time record for one player being sent off throughout his career.
He seems totally unable, to shrug off the banter, the niggles, the tight marking etc. Yes, he was subdued to horrible, winding up tactics tonight, but every manager from now on, will instruct his players to do exactly the same thing. Can he handle it ? I dont think so, and judging by his already bad discaplinary record and his obvious bad, stroppy and sometimes downright mardy temper ..... i honestly believe that W Rooney will go on to be one of the most sent off/yellow carded players of all time.
Yes he will pop up with the odd special goal now and again, because his talent is that great, but just think, over the course of his career, how many games he will miss through suspension because of his inability to handle abit of banter and a few kicks without totally and utterly, throwing his dummy out of his pram.

If SAF can't sort him out, who can?

If SAF can't sort him out, who can?

well yeah, good question. He is a magnificant man manager (young giggs, party loving pimp springs to mind. Look at him now.)
I agree, i think that maybe, rooneys temperament may terriblly hinder, if not ruin his footballing career.

A couple of years ago, Rooney and Ronaldo probably had equal potential... I've spouted a lot of venom about one of those two... but time has shown who is the true professional...

A couple of years ago, Rooney and Ronaldo probably had equal potential... I've spouted a lot of venom about one of those two... but time has shown who is the true professional...

yes i also thought Rooney would go on to be probably, the best in the world. Whereas Ronaldo i thought, had no end product and a jumped up, overated ponce.
Now, although i dont agree with his world cup antics, believe that Ronaldo, will become, the best player in the world. He shruggs off any banter.
On W Rooney, well, i just think he is not wired up right and if he carries on playing like he wants to explode ...... his career could go down the pan.

I`m afraid Rooney`s career appears to be going into reverse.He seems incapable of keeping his temper in check(albeit in the face of what is now becoming regular provacation).Perhaps it was a case of too much too soon for him.I know he has had 1 or 2 injuries,but his performances for England(and in Europe for Man Utd)havn`t been living up to the early promise of 3-4 yrs ago.Being a multi-millionaire at 21 can do funny things to a players hunger,desire and motivation.I`m afraid the lad doesn`t seem bright enough to deal with it all.

And just wait while the potato headed one starts piling on the pounds , the lad might be finished at 28.

Can the red nosed one can save him ???!!!

In fairness Rooneys assist for Gerrards 1st goal was great. The one person that can sort out his attitude is Sir Alex, whether he wants to or not is another thing.

What gets me is the fact Steven Gerrard dived horribly last night in the box, yet it hardly gets mentioned.
If Ronaldo did that..

And last Saturday, Rooney brandished an imaginary yellow card to the ref after being fouled. If a foreigner does this the British press go crazy.

Double standards??

It'a a shame interviewers can't say what everyone is thinking when they do thier interviews at the end of a match.
My interview with Gerrard last night would have gone something like,
" Two great goals Steve but is there any reason for diving in the box when you can score like that?" Wonder how he would have reacted ;)

What gets me is the fact Steven Gerrard dived horribly last night in the box, yet it hardly gets mentioned.



That's what happens when you spend too much time training with Andy Johnson.....

Ronaldo thrives on banter and being jeered by the opposition crowd. Just watching the England game again now and Rooney is more concerned with having his say to opposition teams rather than just getting on with it. By doing this he is just playing right into their hands.

What gets me is the fact Steven Gerrard dived horribly last night in the box, yet it hardly gets mentioned.
If Ronaldo did that..

And last Saturday, Rooney brandished an imaginary yellow card to the ref after being fouled. If a foreigner does this the British press go crazy.

Double standards??

Very true. Remember the world cup ? Didn't W Rooney get sent off because of player gestures to the referee, namely Ronaldo ? To then do the same thing to another player !!!

Just watching the England game again now and Rooney is more concerned with having his say to opposition teams rather than just getting on with it. By doing this he is just playing right into their hands.

Yes and this will happen every game because club and international managers now know he can't handle a man marker, who will abbuse and harrass him at every oportunity. When he burst onto the scene as a teenager, nobody knew how to cope with him. Now i feel, he has been found out, and may never be the player we all thought he was going to be because his frustration is just bubbling and bubbling. Its only a matter of time before the immaturity presses the self destruct button.

And just wait while the potato headed one starts piling on the pounds , the lad might be finished at 28.

Can the red nosed one can save him ???!!!

His parents are very big people aren't they ?
His brother also.
Dont look too promising does it ?
Defenders better not keep bugging him though, can you imagine a 16 stone Rooney with the temper he's got :hihi:

I suppose Gerrard is a much better player than Rooney if im honest, I just needed to admit it to myself. I look at Rooney and lately, all i see is a fat, ugly pudding.
Yes Gerrard dives now and again, but i have to be completely honest and say, only 10% the amount as what Ronaldo does.
I was reading about Liverpool's new stadium yesterday, and it is going to be amazing. When it is finally opened, i for one will not be looking back at Old Trafford, because thats what it is, old.
The future, i believe, is Liverpool FC.
weheyyyy lad. You have changed your tune. Still, glad you saw sense in the end

That's what happens when you spend too much time training with Andy Johnson.....Chicken-egg, mate, chicken-egg.

What do you all think i keep hearing Wayne Rooney being called a World class player is it me or am i missing something. How can a player who swears so much at referees gets wound up so easy has to be taken off before being sent of be a world class player. I am worried for England because he is our striker i cant remember Shearer,Owen,Lineker,Pele,Ronaldo,Ronaldhinio ever being like that and they were and are world class players. He is getting worse and is not learning at all. If Ferguson cant sort him then im afraid no one can. It is a great shame because he has so much potential what do you all think....

What do you all think i keep hearing Wayne Rooney being called a World class player is it me or am i missing something. How can a player who swears so much at referees gets wound up so easy has to be taken off before being sent of be a world class player. I am worried for England because he is our striker i cant remember Shearer,Owen,Lineker,Pele,Ronaldo,Ronaldhinio ever being like that and they were and are world class players. He is getting worse and is not learning at all. If Ferguson cant sort him then im afraid no one can. It is a great shame because he has so much potential what do you all think....

I think you are spot on with your assessment. Rooney cannot control his aggression, simple as. Like you said, your stated players all got harrased, pushed, abused etc, but all rose/rise above it. Rooney will always pop up with the odd "world class goal", because of the talent he posseses, but its so obvious that, his temperiment and aggresion will never be curbed. He's a man with issues, and that will prevent him from being the player he could be. He should be on the next big brother, he may win. The last man with tourretes did :hihi:

Very true. Remember the world cup ? Didn't W Rooney get sent off because of player gestures to the referee, namely Ronaldo ?
No, Rooney got sent off because he stamped on a Portuguese players testicles and nobody is to blame for that other than him (and maybe Sven for not bringing enough strikers thus forcing Rooney to play a role he isn't suited to in a formation England weren't suited to, creating the exact kind of situation Rooney was likely to get frustrated & lash out in).

I thought that Gerrad was lucky not to get sent off against Andora. Early on he went right through one of their players and was lucky not to recieve a caution, his dive was disgraceful and he should have been booked for that as well.

I am also pleased that Rooney is suspended. He was not interested at all in playing football in the last two England matches, all he wanted to to was carry on his petty personal feuds with the Andoran and Isreali defenders.

forcing Rooney to play a role he isn't suited to in a formation England weren't suited to, creating the exact kind of situation Rooney was likely to get frustrated & lash out in).

Oh, so your saying that Rooney is only cabable of playing in one single formation and that Sven should have forseen that Rooney would get so frustrated that he would feel the need to "stamp on a portugal players testicles", as you put it.
One thing you have just confirmed though is that, once Rooney is frustrated, he will, as already proved in numerous games, get so wound up that he will either get himself sent off or, have to be taken off to prevent him from being sent off. Hardly the mature proffesional, is he ?

I thought that Gerrad was lucky not to get sent off against Andora. Early on he went right through one of their players and was lucky not to recieve a caution.

All i can say is that, if you watched the game, Gerrard was the one single player that showed any will, guts, passion, or any kind of embarrasment at the performances and effort been put in by many other England players.
If Gerard had of been sent off, which you claim he should have, England would now be out of the running for qualification to the finals of the tournament.
Is there any wonder he was frustrated, having to carry the rest of the pathetic midfielders and forwards that England have in our squad.
Maybe Rooney should forget the salery that he recieves, and show some of the passion that Gerrard does, then maybe we would win a few more matches.

All i can say is that, if you watched the game, Gerrard was the one single player that showed any will, guts, passion, or any kind of embarrasment at the performances and effort been put in by many other England players.
If Gerard had of been sent off, which you claim he should have, England would now be out of the running for qualification to the finals of the tournament.
Is there any wonder he was frustrated, having to carry the rest of the pathetic midfielders and forwards that England have in our squad.


So when a player blatently dives he is showing passion and guts, or is it ok for him to cheat because he is Loserpools captain? He has done it before for England and will do it again, and you make excuses him by saying it is the other players fault. If Gerrard was sent off, as he should have been he would have to quite right shoulder alot of the blame.

Lets hope the other English players do not follow his pathetic example.

So when a player blatently dives he is showing passion and guts, or is it ok for him to cheat because he is Loserpools captain? He has done it before for England and will do it again, and you make excuses him by saying it is the other players fault. If Gerrard was sent off, as he should have been he would have to quite right shoulder alot of the blame.

Lets hope the other English players do not follow his pathetic example.

I dont condone him diving, yes it was uncalled for, but l find it absolutely staggering how you can not give credit where credit is due. When the finals are on, and your in the pub getting wrecked watching England, remember this result and who made it happen.

I dont condone him diving, yes it was uncalled for, but l find it absolutely staggering how you can not give credit where credit is due. When the finals are on, and your in the pub getting wrecked watching England, remember this result and who made it happen.

Well I find it staggering that you want to give Gerrard any sort of credit. Lets put it into perspective. The Andoran team is part time, they train for a few hours a week. So the Andoran players cannot even try to match the professional players fitness and organisation. On top of this more people go to Old Trafford each week, then live in Andora. So Gerrard scored 2 goals, big deal. I don't remember him doing much else apart from misplacing passes and slicing free kicks high and wide.

The whole team was atrocious, every one of them. Gerrard's and Rooney's spitfull and pathetic attitude and actions was doubley atrocious as these 2 individuals are our talismen, the people who are meant to lift us to world cup glory. Over the likes of Brazil and Germany, not scrape victories over teams such as Andora.

Very true. Remember the world cup ? Didn't W Rooney get sent off because of player gestures to the referee, namely Ronaldo ? To then do the same thing to another player !!!

Yes, but in all fairness Rooney didn't make a big deal about what Ronaldo did, I don't remember him publically speaking out about it. The Press did.