Hey everyone

My bro is assistant manager at a pub in Rotherham. After a very successful St Patricks Day celebration he decided to arrange something similar for St Georges day. While discussing this a councilor who eats in the pub regular said that he should apply for permisson to hold this event as it could cause offence to other religions. Now correct me if Im wrong but St George's Day has absolutely nothing to do with religion??????

Why can this pub advertise St Patricks Party for weeks without this counsillor saying a thing but as soon as an ENGLISH celebration is mentioned he has to apply for permission.

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Ask yourself this: Does it suprise you? Sadly, it dont suprise me

Why can this pub advertise St Patricks Party for weeks without this counsillor saying a thing but as soon as an ENGLISH celebration is mentioned he has to apply for permission.

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Point out to them he wasnt actualy English.
Then they wont have a problem:hihi:

Hey everyone

My bro is assistant manager at a pub in Rotherham. After a very successful St Patricks Day celebration he decided to arrange something similar for St Georges day. While discussing this a councilor who eats in the pub regular said that he should apply for permisson to hold this event as it could cause offence to other religions. Now correct me if Im wrong but St George's Day has absolutely nothing to do with religion??????

Why can this pub advertise St Patricks Party for weeks without this counsillor saying a thing but as soon as an ENGLISH celebration is mentioned he has to apply for permission.

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
What is the name of the councillor?

With whom would the pub be in trouble for flying an English flag? I must have missed the passing of that law.

It sounds like another made up story to me.

silly season is here again

Hey everyone

My bro is assistant manager at a pub in Rotherham. After a very successful St Patricks Day celebration he decided to arrange something similar for St Georges day. While discussing this a councilor who eats in the pub regular said that he should apply for permisson to hold this event as it could cause offence to other religions. Now correct me if Im wrong but St George's Day has absolutely nothing to do with religion??????

Why can this pub advertise St Patricks Party for weeks without this counsillor saying a thing but as soon as an ENGLISH celebration is mentioned he has to apply for permission.

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

I just don't believe a word of it.

Here we go again.

OK - this is a good time to name names. Get your brother to contact the local press, contact the licensing department of the council and take it from there.

I don't know about this particular case but there have been examples of PC lunacy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4463541.stm

I don't know about this particular case but there have been examples of PC lunacy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4463541.stm

and we also know MOST are made up

I don't know about this particular case but there have been examples of PC lunacy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4463541.stm

It's the same crap every year. Same crap stories peddeled by the same right wing nut jobs. Same crap stories that as soon as you investigate just a little bit turn out to be crap.

I don't know about this particular case but there have been examples of PC lunacy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4463541.stm
What's that got to do with political correctness? He put up some flags on council property in violation of health and safety regulations and was asked to take them down.

You forgot the line "It's political correctness gone mad" - get extra frothing tabloidism points if you get it in :thumbsup:

who exactly is offended by celebrating st george's day?

who exactly is offended by celebrating st george's day?
Dragons perhaps?

who exactly is offended by celebrating st george's day?

people NOT called george?

You forgot the line "It's political correctness gone mad" - get extra frothing tabloidism points if you get it in :thumbsup:

Oh, yes! I forgot about that. Thanks!

It's political correctness gone mad! We're going to hell in a handcart! Is this what our grandfathers went to war for? Bloody sandal wearing beardy-weirdy etc etc....!:hihi:

who exactly is offended by celebrating st george's day?

Dragons. And their relatives.

Hey everyone

My bro is assistant manager at a pub in Rotherham. After a very successful St Patricks Day celebration he decided to arrange something similar for St Georges day. While discussing this a councilor who eats in the pub regular said that he should apply for permisson to hold this event as it could cause offence to other religions. Now correct me if Im wrong but St George's Day has absolutely nothing to do with religion??????

Why can this pub advertise St Patricks Party for weeks without this counsillor saying a thing but as soon as an ENGLISH celebration is mentioned he has to apply for permission.

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Political correctness gone mad that is.. Just cos they don't want to offend Muslims, the majority of which wouldn't even care.

Dragons. And their relatives.

thatd be my grandma then according to mi dad :P
he always called his mother in law the dragon lol

Political correctness gone mad that is.. Just cos they don't want to offend Muslims, the majority of which wouldn't even care.

Rich, how many times do you have to read this rubbish about the PC brigade and St George's day to realise it's all made up? Do a search on SF to find loads of stories about the imaginary PC brigade trying to ban the flag and stop people celebrating St George's day.

Rich, how many times do you have to read this rubbish about the PC brigade and St George's day to realise it's all made up? Do a search on SF to find loads of stories about the imaginary PC brigade trying to ban the flag and stop people celebrating St George's day.

but its in black and white
it must be true

but its in black and white
it must be true

Well that's me put in my place then. :(

Well that's me put in my place then. :(

sorry i forgot



</sarcastic mode off>

but its in black and white
it must be true

I heard the other day, from an unreliable friend, who'd heard it from an even more untrustworthy friend of his, that on St. George's Day it's a treasonable offence to fly the Union Jack upside down, wearing only underpants whilst listening to a Cliff Richard CD in the coalhouse.

I'm told many Bankers, Accountants, Estate Agents, MP's and similar "cutpurses" were hanged upside down with no underpants on for doing just that during the Napoleonic Wars!

You have to be careful these days!. :o

OK, I know Cliff Richard didn't have any CD's out during the Napoleonic War period, but it seems as though his records have been around that long! :hihi:

Only joking Cliff! We luv ya! Especially my missus! :( :thumbsup:

Seriously though, if you and yer mates want to celebrate St George's Day, why don't you go ahead and do it? Do you need a pub with a load of England flags outside to enjoy yourself?

Political correctness gone mad that is.. Just cos they don't want to offend Muslims, the majority of which wouldn't even care.
How do you figure that? If the authorities didn't want to offend morons who object to others celebrating Saint's days because of their Christian connotations they wouldn't celebrate St Patrick's day either.

I heard the other day, from an unreliable friend, who'd heard it from an even more untrustworthy friend of his, that one St' George's Day it's a treasonable offence to fly the Union Jack upside down, wearing only underpants whilst listening to a Cliff Richard CD in the coalhouse.

I'm told many Bankers, Accountants, Estate Agents, MP's and similar "cutpurses" were hanged upside down with no underpants on for doing just that during the Napoleonic Wars!

You have to be careful these days!. :o

OK, I know Cliff Richard didn't have any CD's out during the Napoleonic War period, but it seems as though his records have been around that long! :hihi:

Only joking Cliff! We luv ya! Especially my missus! :( :thumbsup:

shoeshine im offended by your previous post
particularly the small blue bit at the end

shoeshine im offended by your previous post
particularly the small blue bit at the end

Am I bovvered?! :hihi:

Seriously though, if you and yer mates want to celebrate St George's Day, why don't you go ahead and do it? Do you need a pub with a load of England flags outside to enjoy yourself?
The answer is that such whingers would rather pretend they're being persecuted, when in reality they obviously aren't, than actually have a good time.

shoeshine im offended by your previous post
particularly the small blue bit at the end

Yay! Another Cliff fan! :D :clap:

In a way I've sort of lived with Cliff Richard records for the last 30 years courtesy of me Mother!

Not that I mind, some of his stuff is tops.

Yay! Another Cliff fan! :D :clap:

In a way I've sort of lived with Cliff Richard records for the last 30 years courtesy of me Mother!

Not that I mind, some of his stuff is tops.

hes not quite motorhead tho is he??



:P

now that is a mash up I want to hear, cliff and motorhead.

now that is a mash up I want to hear, cliff and motorhead.

actually the mash up i want to do is when im licking windows

george formby versus the aphex twin

errrrm we seem to have shot off on a tangent now, eddie izzard stylee :P

Yay! Another Cliff fan! :D :clap:

In a way I've sort of lived with Cliff Richard records for the last 30 years courtesy of me Mother!

Not that I mind, some of his stuff is tops.

We'd get on really well if you were to admit to liking Lonnie Donegan's Skiffle Music from his early days, whilst hanging upside down on the scaffold wearing only our underpants, then.......to an accompanying French crowd singing "La Marseilliaise" in perfect harmony whilst flying the Union Jack the "right" way up.

Stranger things happen, Rich! :hihi:

ps Only kidding lad! :thumbsup:

If there's a "mash up" I want to hear, it's Meat Loaf and Russell Watson.

Russell's already done one of Meat Loaf's songs, "Is nothing sacred" a couple of years ago.

Yay! Another Cliff fan! :D :clap:

In a way I've sort of lived with Cliff Richard records for the last 30 years courtesy of me Mother!

Not that I mind, some of his stuff is tops.

It couldn't have been easy coming out on a public forum like this but well done.
I'm sure there must be a support group for other Cliff fans out there so don't dispair.

Anyway, back to St Georges day, I'm not bothered about St george or any other religious symbol or celebration. I would rather see it as a day to celebrate William Shakespeare's birthday

I'm sure there must be a support group for other Cliff fans out there so don't dispair.

Cliff's Support Groups all wear Trusses for support these days! :hihi:

Anyway, back to St Georges day, I'm not bothered about St george or any other religious symbol or celebration. I would rather see it as a day to celebrate William Shakespeare's birthday

Well, you can if you want........we love Cliff Richard......(and Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line"!) :thumbsup:

It couldn't have been easy coming out on a public forum like this but well done.
I'm sure there must be a support group for other Cliff fans out there so don't dispair.

Um, I don't need no support group.. And I am NOT gay so shut up about me "coming out" :rant:

Um, I don't need no support group.. And I am NOT gay so shut up about me "coming out" :rant:

I seem to have touched a nerve, Chill out ;)

(Here comes the bit where you accuse me of trolling and report me to the mods)

Rich - he was joking about you being a Cliff Richard fan and no insult at all was intended. The "coming out" bit wasn't referring to being gay, only to your admitting to liking the musical offerings of Harold Webb.

Rich - he was joking about you being a Cliff Richard fan and no insult at all was intended. The "coming out" bit wasn't referring to being gay, only to your admitting to liking the musical offerings of Harold Webb.

Cheers Rosy you are right i wasn't implying anything by my post. just joining in with the jocular nature of the way the thread was going.

i was gonna mention wrestling, dont think ill bother tho, best not

Now Cliff and Lemmy wrestling would be fun to watch

Now Cliff and Lemmy wrestling would be fun to watch

me thinks your still on a motorhead tip

Hey everyone

My bro is assistant manager at a pub in Rotherham. After a very successful St Patricks Day celebration he decided to arrange something similar for St Georges day. While discussing this a councilor who eats in the pub regular said that he should apply for permisson to hold this event as it could cause offence to other religions. Now correct me if Im wrong but St George's Day has absolutely nothing to do with religion??????

Why can this pub advertise St Patricks Party for weeks without this counsillor saying a thing but as soon as an ENGLISH celebration is mentioned he has to apply for permission.

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:


Did you make this up yourself, or did your brother make this up and you believed him?

me thinks your still on a motorhead tip

Indeed I am, I'm thinking of emailing him to see his views about do gooders stopping people putting flags up everywhere

looks like the church has jumped on the band wagon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=393651&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true

looks like the church has jumped on the band wagon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=393651&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true

I like the way The Mail has added "and may upset Muslims" even though it's not mentioned anywhere in the reasons for trying to have an English saint as England's patron saint (St Alban btw). You don't think The Mail is trying to stir up Islamophobia again?

Well if it's in the Daily Mail it must be true.

Ask yourself this: Does it suprise you? Sadly, it dont suprise me

No, ask yourself this - why believe a one-sided load of old cobblers story?

No, ask yourself this - why believe a one-sided load of old cobblers story?

i never saw a shoemaker mentioned????
:confused:

I like the way The Mail has added "and may upset Muslims" even though it's not mentioned anywhere in the reasons for trying to have an English saint as England's patron saint (St Alban btw). You don't think The Mail is trying to stir up Islamophobia again?

Wouldn't surprise me... But then y'all know my opinion of the Daily Mail and its readers... Then again I nearly bought one this afternoon for the free DVD, would've took the voucher out of it and gone to Smith's for the DVD, and promptly binned the paper.

looks like the church has jumped on the band wagon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=393651&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true
Typical Mail article the CofE gave a number of reasons for dropping George as England's saint:

1. There's no firm evidence George actually existed.
2. St Alban did exist
3. Unlike George St Alban actually lived in England (or atleast in what later became England) and according to the Rowan Williams was of some significance to the development of Christianity in England.

Yet right at the start of the article the Mail claims it's 'on the grounds that his image is too warlike and may offend Muslims' despite the fact that they had no quotes from the Church saying this.

Did you make this up yourself, or did your brother make this up and you believed him?

Im sorry but who the **** do you think you are. Why is it so hard to beleive. This kind of thing happens all over the country every day. Now if you don't beleive the story then thats your choice but if you think im just lying why even bother commenting on my thread. :rant: :rant:

No, ask yourself this - why believe a one-sided load of old cobblers story?

Okay ask yourself this. Why would I come on to a forum and make up a story like this. This place and the people on here really **** me off sometimes!

Why is it so hard to beleive. This kind of thing happens all over the country every day.
thats the thing, it DOESNT (most of the stories are made up to make it out that certain sections of the community are being persecuted, by the "pc" brigade)

Look through the Summaries of Business conducted during the General Synod in July 2006 and see if you can find any reference to the subject od St George/St Alban:

http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/news_results.html?year=2006

actually the mash up i want to do is when im licking windows

george formby versus the aphex twin

errrrm we seem to have shot off on a tangent now, eddie izzard stylee :P


You mean this?

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1916412261

You mean this?

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1916412261

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
some baskets ripped me off :(

the thing, it DOESNT (most of the stories are made up to make it out that certain sections of the community are being persecuted, by the "pc" brigade)


Errrrrrm

Winter Lights not Christmas Lights
Christmas lights not being able to have the word Christmas in them.
Companies banning employees putting flags on cars/vans during world cup.

Was I going crazy when I thought these happened :loopy:

Im sorry but who the **** do you think you are. Why is it so hard to beleive. This kind of thing happens all over the country every day. Now if you don't beleive the story then thats your choice but if you think im just lying why even bother commenting on my thread. :rant: :rant:

If you read all the posts on the thread, you will see that most forummers are casting doubt on the authenticity of your OP.

You assert "This kind of thing happens all over the country every day."
I'm not aware that pubs are regularly told by a customer (who happens, it is claimed, to be a Rotherham councillor) not to celebrate St Georges Day or fly flags from a pub. Could you supply other examples or instances where this has regularly occurred?

Personally, I find it very hard to believe that this is regularly happening all over the country on a daily basis, as you claim to be the case. But rather than accuse you of lying, I await your evidence to back up this astonishing claim. I feel sure that if your allegation (that this is a daily occurance that this is happening across the land) is true, then you will be able to supply some evidence to support your claim. A link to a newspaper or other media website maybe? I wait your response with interest.

Personally, I find it very hard to believe that this is regularly happening all over the country on a daily basis, as you claim to be the case. But rather than accuse you of lying, I await your evidence to back up this astonishing claim. I feel sure that if your allegation (that this is a daily occurance that this is happening across the land) is true, then you will be able to supply some evidence to support your claim. A link to a newspaper or other media website maybe? I wait your response with interest.

theres plenty of website "proof" still doesnt mean it happens tho
i think theres a wee bit of artistic license goes on with em tbh

Errrrrrm

Winter Lights not Christmas Lights
Christmas lights not being able to have the word Christmas in them.
Companies banning employees putting flags on cars/vans during world cup.

Was I going crazy when I thought these happened :loopy:

Did your brother tell you these things?

Okay ask yourself this. Why would I come on to a forum and make up a story like this. This place and the people on here really **** me off sometimes!

A few people have asked for something to substanciate this story, such as the name of the councillor (which you haven't provided).

Fair enough, maybe you didn't ask his name, but at least tell us the name of the pub.

(who happens, it is claimed, to be a Rotherham councillor)

Oh yeah I forgot councillors don't eat out ever :loopy: :loopy:

There is no news article to back this up as my Brother told me about this occuring when I went for a few pints with him. You only need to listen to News and Read papers to here of things SIMILAR to this happening all the time. Why would I come on to a forum and make up a story like this. WHAT EXACTLY WOULD I GAIN FROM THAT! I really wish I hadn't bothered now. :rant: :rant: :rant:

The name of the pub Is the Homestead in Rotherham. I didn't ask the name of the councillor

Did your brother tell you these things?


These Things ACTUALLY did occur. These actual stories reported on by papers and Local/National News

These Things ACTUALLY did occur. These actual stories reported on by papers and Local/National News
dont blindly follow EVERYTHING you read
even nude wimmin in the papers are airbrushed :(

Errrrrrm

Winter Lights not Christmas Lights
Do you have a specific example of this?

Christmas lights not being able to have the word Christmas in them.
Again can you give a specific example of this happening?

Companies banning employees putting flags on cars/vans during world cup.
I expect this most likely did happen, if I ran a company I certainly wouldn't want to run the risk of being sued for the consequences of a flag attached to one of my vehicles coming off at speed.

These Things ACTUALLY did occur. These actual stories reported on by papers and Local/National News

These are the things that I've seen occur:

- I've seen lots of Christmas lights around Christmas time.
- I've seen loads of Christmas lights with "Happy Christmas" on them.
- I've seen plenty of cars/vans with St Georges Crosses on them.

Make of this what you want to.

I give up. Could really not give a **** what any one thinks. Please close this thread mods.

I'm sick of reading this stuff, time and again.

Right, I'm going to fly the English flag (cross of St George) outside my shop and see if there's any comeback. Being only about 50 yards from the cop shop .. they won't have far to travel if they want to divest me of my flag :D

I bet I'm able to report that there was a ripple of uninterest throughout the entire area. :rolleyes:

ps even elected councillors can talk utter nonsense you know ...

I give up. Could really not give a **** what any one thinks. Please close this thread mods.

This is a discusion forum, why post it if you didn't want it discussed?

Do you have a specific example of this?



I thought that you had participated on similar threads:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4398680.stm

ps even elected councillors can talk utter nonsense you know ...

That is very true Ruby. Whats annoyed me is not people saying that this isn't the case. But people accusing me of making the whole thing up. I fail to see what I would gain from doing this is im not one of the 'Everyone's against us as we are English' brigade. And i also fail to see what my brother would achieve from lying to me about this happening. Maybe the guy wasn't even a councillor or maybe he was just spouting bo11ox but I am fairly certain that this did occur.

I'm sick of reading this stuff, time and again.

Right, I'm going to fly the English flag (cross of St George) outside my shop and see if there's any comeback. Being only about 50 yards from the cop shop .. they won't have far to travel if they want to divest me of my flag :D
Don't risk it ruby the PC police are sure to cart you off to the gulag just like they did anyone who dared try to display the England flag during the World Cup :rolleyes:

I thought that you had participated on similar threads:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4398680.stm

This is silly descision made by a foolish junior official, as was quoted by the council:

A spokesman said it was an error by a junior official and not council policy.

This is not an official policy of banning anything Christian or British, life goes on as normal.

This is a discusion forum, why post it if you didn't want it discussed?

Yeah. I wanted to discuss this but obviously its not true. Whats point in discussing what everyone is already convinced is a lie. Hence. Can't be arsed

I'm sick of reading this stuff, time and again.

Right, I'm going to fly the English flag (cross of St George) outside my shop and see if there's any comeback. Being only about 50 yards from the cop shop .. they won't have far to travel if they want to divest me of my flag :D

I bet I'm able to report that there was a ripple of uninterest throughout the entire area. :rolleyes:

ps even elected councillors can talk utter nonsense you know ...

I'm also sick of reading the same crap year in year out. The simple fact is that you can fly a flag all year round if you do it safely. There is a shop on London Road that has had a flag up all year around for years.

That is very true Ruby. Whats annoyed me is not people saying that this isn't the case. But people accusing me of making the whole thing up. I fail to see what I would gain from doing this is im not one of the 'Everyone's against us as we are English' brigade. And i also fail to see what my brother would achieve from lying to me about this happening. Maybe the guy wasn't even a councillor or maybe he was just spouting bo11ox but I am fairly certain that this did occur.


I am sorry liam1412, my reply was rude. But I hear stories like this every day, the main reason stories like this are spread are to spread hate; and it does wind me up a bit. If this wasn't your intention in the original post, then I honestly apoligise.

Mod note:

Can we try to keep this thread civil please? liam1412 doesn't have a habit of trolling so please take his OP at face value and discuss it and the issues properly.

Thanks.

I'm sick of reading this stuff, time and again.

Right, I'm going to fly the English flag (cross of St George) outside my shop and see if there's any comeback. Being only about 50 yards from the cop shop .. they won't have far to travel if they want to divest me of my flag :D



Ruby, please don't fly the flag of St George! Instead, please make it this one....
<<<<<<<< :thumbsup:

Ruby, please don't fly the flag of St George! Instead, please make it this one....
<<<<<<<< :thumbsup:

Nooooooooooooo! I prefer my own flag ... it's also my fave colours ...


100% Blades forever :love:

I am sorry liam1412, my reply was rude. But I hear stories like this every day, the main reason stories like this are spread are to spread hate; and it does wind me up a bit. If this wasn't your intention in the original post, then I honestly apoligise.

I don't intend to spread hate. I still think these things do occur, if not only at the hands of misguided council official. I assure you that my brother isn't a liar so I am certain this did happen and my thread was started in a 'it's okay to support Paddy but not st George' respect, not to incite any kind of hatred. The particular story regarding the winter lights. I remember seeing it on BBC news and they interviewed Muslims who were annoyed at the fact the this made out they didn't want English people to celebrate their own religion, When in actual fact a lot of them joined in the festivities in their own way. In the cases that I have read of this happening its usually a case of some idiot deciding that something we do offends other races/religions when in actual fact it doesn't.

In the words of Alan Partridge

Tut. This Country :rolleyes:

I don't intend to spread hate. I still think these things do occur, if not only at the hands of misguided council official. I assure you that my brother isn't a liar so I am certain this did happen and my thread was started in a 'it's okay to support Paddy but not st George' respect, not to incite any kind of hatred. The particular story regarding the winter lights. I remember seeing it on BBC news and they interviewed Muslims who were annoyed at the fact the this made out they didn't want English people to celebrate their own religion, When in actual fact a lot of them joined in the festivities in their own way. In the cases that I have read of this happening its usually a case of some idiot deciding that something we do offends other races/religions when in actual fact it doesn't.

In the words of Alan Partridge

Tut. This Country :rolleyes:

Is my appolgy accepted?

It is..... I did mean to write that sorry. And also my angry response wasn't just aimed at you but I couldn't bothered to copy all the replies so I just picked the latest one. For which I apologise.....

I don't intend to spread hate. I still think these things do occur, if not only at the hands of misguided council official. I assure you that my brother isn't a liar so I am certain this did happen and my thread was started in a 'it's okay to support Paddy but not st George' respect, not to incite any kind of hatred.

In reality they don't, but in fairness, I've said for ages that St George's Day should be an English public holiday (we get two days off in Ireland for Paddy's Day - we know how people will generally feel on the 18th, if it's working day :hihi: ). I still think the deep irony of Paddy's Day is that the entire country turns green in order to have a wee up, and we Irish can't get into the pubs we made our own ........ oh well, everybody has a laugh and a drink, so it's not too bad .........

The particular story regarding the winter lights. I remember seeing it on BBC news and they interviewed Muslims who were annoyed at the fact the this made out they didn't want English people to celebrate their own religion, When in actual fact a lot of them joined in the festivities in their own way. In the cases that I have read of this happening its usually a case of some idiot deciding that something we do offends other races/religions when in actual fact it doesn't.

Which is why it's used by the right wing brigade to whip up a frenzy, when there's nothing about which to frenzy. As was pointed out earlier, when you look through what happened, it was one junior officer, not a wholesale bid to rip Christ(TM)mas away.

I just don't believe a word of it.

I find it hard to believe.If it IS true then the councillor is more than likely to be stirring a little bit:suspect:

I find it hard to believe.If it IS true then the councillor is more than likely to be stirring a little bit:suspect:

Do they have BNP councillors in Rovvrum? :suspect:

Do they have BNP councillors in Rovvrum?


Not that I know of. But im sure one or two of the councilors will be racist. Or just plain idiots

Do they have BNP councillors in Rovvrum? :suspect:

No BNP councillors in Rotherham. :thumbsup:

No BNP councillors in Rotherham. :thumbsup:

I know, I was just being slightly controversial ... :P

I don't intend to spread hate. I still think these things do occur, if not only at the hands of misguided council official. I assure you that my brother isn't a liar so I am certain this did happen and my thread was started in a 'it's okay to support Paddy but not st George' respect, not to incite any kind of hatred. The particular story regarding the winter lights. I remember seeing it on BBC news and they interviewed Muslims who were annoyed at the fact the this made out they didn't want English people to celebrate their own religion, When in actual fact a lot of them joined in the festivities in their own way. In the cases that I have read of this happening its usually a case of some idiot deciding that something we do offends other races/religions when in actual fact it doesn't.

In the words of Alan Partridge

Tut. This Country :rolleyes:

Thank you liam1412 for this explanation of your OP. Given this clarification, I I wish to apologise for any doubt that I may have inferred about the purpose of your thread.

I agree with your sentiments that there are indeed some people who misguidely believe that they are doing something that they think avoids offence to other races or religions, when, as you say, in actual fact it doesn't help at all. My apologies liam1412.

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Do they have BNP councillors in Rovvrum? :suspect:

unfortunately Yes they do.One of them is called Marlene Guest and SHE'S BLOODY GORGEOUS:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

Thanks for apology redrobbo. Without going back through the thread I don't know if I was rude so Im sorry if I was. Alls peaceful in SF again now :hihi:

unfortunately Yes they do.One of them is called Marlene Guest and SHE'S BLOODY GORGEOUS:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

She is not a councillor, I think she was in the past for the Lib Dems. She fought a bye election late last year or early this year and came second

unfortunately Yes they do.One of them is called Marlene Guest and SHE'S BLOODY GORGEOUS:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

How can a woman with that much hate in her heart be gorgeous?

unfortunately Yes they do.One of them is called Marlene Guest and SHE'S BLOODY GORGEOUS:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

According to my information, Marlene Guest contested the Rotherham West Ward by-election on 26 October last year and the Labour candidate (John Foden) was elected.

I've just done a search of Rotherham MBC list of councillors - and only Labour, Conservative and Independent councillors are listed. No BNP councillors are listed.

I like the way The Mail has added "and may upset Muslims" even though it's not mentioned anywhere in the reasons for trying to have an English saint as England's patron saint (St Alban btw). You don't think The Mail is trying to stir up Islamophobia again?
if it sells news papers i wouldnt put it past them.

should we stop showing films about the battle of britain,or how we sank the bismark in case we upset some one else ?or are christians allowed to kill christians as we dont complain a lot..:hihi:

as for the church getting involved ,many churches have stained glass windows representing st.george,theres a church in pickering that has a full wall mural of the scene where he kills the dragon

i think it will do the rounds the nearer we get to st.georges day,me,i will raise a glass to him and our country if im in the pub,if not i cant see it effecting my way of life, oh!! but hang about,if it is banned could i say i am traumatised by the lack of patriotism and put a claim in? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

How can a woman with that much hate in her heart be gorgeous?

I was joking.Its not pretty at all!!!

Political correctness gone mad that is.. Just cos they don't want to offend Muslims, the majority of which wouldn't even care.

and what makes such pc people think muslims ' might' be offended in the first place?

He also told him not fly English flags outside the pub as he the pub could get in trouble for this. Anyone else think this is completely ridiculous. How dare we want to celebrate our patron saint!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

I can believe this. My mate ran a local pub up to this year and I saw the letter advising him not to use English flags so as not to upset other racial groups.
He , being an even bigger git that me, filled the place with them and put them in the windows and outside as well.

I think my view that any race or religion is welcome into this country is well known but if there are those from other races that object to MY flag (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:fh7QAJ3CEd4hAM:www.picturesofengland. com/images/england_flags/st-george-cross.jpg) please feel free to sod off to another country.

When I go to other countries I obay the local laws, learn about local culture and respect both. All I ask people who come to this country to do is the same.

As for daft council arseholes and others who think this crap up. Sod off as well.


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I can believe this. My mate ran a local pub up to this year and I saw the letter advising him not to use English flags so as not to upset other racial groups.
This is a pub in Sheffield is it? What organisation are you claiming sent this letter or was it just some random 'politically correct' individual?

is it possible that the guy wanted to open late on georges day and was told he had to apply for a special license?

This is a pub in Sheffield is it? What organisation are you claiming sent this letter or was it just some random 'politically correct' individual?

A wath pub and the pub management company

As for daft council arseholes and others who think this crap up. Sod off as well.



I could not have put it better myself.

Put the flags up in the pub and if the said councillor comes in, tell him to stick them where the sun dont shine.
Why is it that we cannot celebrate being english without offending anybody its friggin ridiculous