View Full Version : Advice required re guy conducting business outside my home


esme
15-03-2007, 13:40
ok where I live the bit outside my home and the other six or seven homes this end isn't actually part of the highway as it's paved over and we all paid extra for the houses because of this, technically it's a communal drive

now there's a guy comes round who cleans bins, he doesn't do mine as I do it myself

however last year he started cleaning a bunch of them outside my house and the crap he washes out ends up on my lawn, I've even had reports that he's dumped the bins on my lawn while he washes them out

I finally managed to have a word with him and I politely asked him to do this somewhere else, and pointed out the crap now lying in the road that he was going to leave as "the birds would eat it"

I got a mouthful of abuse for my trouble, I am apparently "a mardy b*stard and I need to get my f*cking hair cut" amongst other things, the 38D's appeared to be invisible as most of the insults were male oriented, I did not respond to any of these and I walked away

now I've got no problem with the guy earning a crust, I just don't want him doing it on my lawn and I don't expect a mouthful when I ask politely

now I've asked him politely once, so next week when he comes round again, if he starts up outside my home again do I


go and have a slightly less polite word with him
go and have a polite word with him again and state I'll be reporting him if this continues
just report him

fluffystuff
15-03-2007, 13:45
He sounds like a right charmer!. If you dont fancy round two then report him.

animal2477
15-03-2007, 13:49
get the rubbish out of your bin and chuck it on him and his van!!!!:hihi:

Glennis
15-03-2007, 13:52
just report him .. you don't owe him anything ..

neeeeeeeeeek
15-03-2007, 13:53
just report him, he sounds like a moron.

walter wall
15-03-2007, 13:54
Get over it.

cgksheff
15-03-2007, 13:59
Despite his verbal abuse, you may have made him think twice.

I have seen similar situations where the culprit has actually changed their ways.

Another option is to have a quiet word with the neighbours whose bins he is cleaning.

climaxchick
15-03-2007, 13:59
I'd report him, but you'd need photographic evidence of any mess he leave or him using your lawn to drip dry the bins. Any verbal abuse if possible should be recorded with a audio tape recorder or if possible a friend to video you confronting the 'gent' politely. If you get the same reaction as you did first time round, you can then report him and use the evidence to actually get something done about it.

Good luck and let us know any news.

esme
15-03-2007, 14:11
Get over it.ok I'll tell him you don't mind having crap dumped all over your garden and he can do it there then

Despite his verbal abuse, you may have made him think twice.

I have seen similar situations where the culprit has actually changed their ways.I can hope

Another option is to have a quiet word with the neighbours whose bins he is cleaning.already done, ta

I'd report him, but you'd need photographic evidence of any mess he leave or him using your lawn to drip dry the bins.good idea

Any verbal abuse if possible should be recorded with a audio tape recorder or if possible a friend to video you confronting the 'gent' politely. If you get the same reaction as you did first time round, you can then report him and use the evidence to actually get something done about it.a witness would be easier but still a good idea I actually thought he was going to hit me the way he went off so probably a witness would be better

thanks for the replies guys

walter wall
15-03-2007, 14:13
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


You really need to get out more.

jen13kd
15-03-2007, 14:18
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


You really need to get out more.

why does she?

Its quote obvious that the guy cleaning the bins has no respect for her property. I'd be just as annoyed if it was my garden he was leaving in a mess.

I do hope you got this problem sorted, these kind of things can become so upsetting and you can be made to feel victimised.

esme
15-03-2007, 14:21
so you don't hold with the idea of respecting other peoples property

and you approve of the idea that abuse is an appropriate response to a polite request

esme
15-03-2007, 14:21
why does he?*cough* she not he ;)

Carmine
15-03-2007, 14:22
so you don't hold with the idea of respecting other peoples property

and you approve of the idea that abuse is an appropriate response to a polite request
Ignore it, he'll go back under his bridge like all trolls in the end.

cosywolf
15-03-2007, 14:24
why does he?

Its quote obvious that the guy cleaning the bins has no respect for his property. I'd be just as annoyed if it was my garden he was leaving in a mess.

I do hope you got this problem sorted, these kind of things can become so upsetting and you can be made to feel victimised.

Her property. Esme is a lass.;)

jen13kd
15-03-2007, 14:25
I know, just realised

- sorry for thinking you were a bloke with 38d's hahahaha!

Darbees
15-03-2007, 14:29
You are all advising her to report him as people habitually do on this forum but who should she report him to? I suspect it is bravado and bluster from him anyway and he won't do it again.

esme
15-03-2007, 14:29
I know, just realised

- sorry for thinking you were a bloke with 38d's hahahaha!no worries hon, the guy with the bins thought so and he was looking at them, I mean I know I'm rather butch but the girls are difficult to miss :hihi:

esme
15-03-2007, 14:32
You are all advising her to report him as people habitually do on this forum but who should she report him to? I suspect it is bravado and bluster from him anyway and he won't do it again.

dial 101 for a start, if this isn't anti social behaviour I don't know what is

Andy
15-03-2007, 16:55
If he's leaving mess, then it's maybe an environmental health matter. Given that the council are quite clean to fine people for littering, and you know exactly where and when he's going to do it, it should be easy for them to catch him in the act.

However, he'll know it was you that reported him, and might decide to take revenge in some other way. It depends if you can then deal with this.

If you get on well with the neighbours, ask them to stop using his service and the problem's solved.

carpetviper
15-03-2007, 16:59
Tell him the jobseekers want a word with him he probably signs on every fortnight too.

Darbees
15-03-2007, 17:13
Tell him the jobseekers want a word with him he probably signs on every fortnight too.How do you work that one out?

gempud
15-03-2007, 17:43
I would have a word with the neighbours who employ him to clean their bins for them. Surely as they are paying for him to carry out the service they should be able to ask him not to do it in front of your property on your lawn. He sounds threatening so personally I wouldn't speak to him again without another person being there.

1Man&hisBMW
15-03-2007, 17:50
get his van number and report him for his actions.
Most of the bin cleaners should have a waste bag in the back of the van to pick up any litter. If you can catch him littering maybe the evidence (video / pictorial) will serve in getting him a fine. Pocket usually hurts the most, hence govt' policy!

esme
15-03-2007, 18:07
Tell him the jobseekers want a word with him he probably signs on every fortnight too.well it's an unmarked van and a mainly cash in hand business but I don't want to jump to any conclusions just because he got a bit verbal, he could be perfectly legit for all I know

get his van number and report him for his actions.
Most of the bin cleaners should have a waste bag in the back of the van to pick up any litter. If you can catch him littering maybe the evidence (video / pictorial) will serve in getting him a fine. Pocket usually hurts the most, hence govt' policy!I've asked him nicely, I'll see where it goes from here

LadyInRed
15-03-2007, 18:15
surely if you paid extra for the bit of land he use's then you have every right to report him as an obstruction - do it, i bloomin would!

Good luck and let us know how it goes, if all else fails, ring 101 and report it as a minor offence due to the abuse you got outside your own home, nobody should be made to feel intimidated.

Nigel Womersle
15-03-2007, 19:53
You are all advising her to report him as people habitually do on this forum but who should she report him to? I suspect it is bravado and bluster from him anyway and he won't do it again.

Reporting him to the Environmental Health people would be a good start. Also - he is trespassing. May I suggest that people who think this lady is making a mountain out of a molehill, just stop and think how they would feel were it happening to them - on their property.

walter wall
15-03-2007, 22:42
Did he even know it was your property though? He probably thought it was just a communal paved area and didn't realise it was yours because you had paid extra for it.
Now you have enlightened him it may well be the end of the matter.

walter wall
15-03-2007, 22:44
Ignore it, he'll go back under his bridge like all trolls in the end.

Just because I don't agree with someone it doesn't make me a troll Mr keyboard warrior.

rubydazzler
15-03-2007, 23:12
Better though if you disagreed in a less combative way .. telling people to "get over it" when they have a legitimate grievance is a sure fire way to make them even more aggrieved, especially with you!

It's not you is it, the bin cleaner? :)

JoeP
15-03-2007, 23:16
Walter Wall - please chill.

Cyclone
15-03-2007, 23:16
Have another word (before he makes his mess), then stand where he can see you and take lots of photos as he makes the mess, if he does indeed carry on and do so.
Find out his registered address (for his business), write to him and tell him that you will be making a report to the councils environmental health department and that if he does it again you'll also be reporting it to the police.
I think speaking to your neighbours is a good plan too, at least if you get on with them.

Cyclone
15-03-2007, 23:18
Just because I don't agree with someone it doesn't make me a troll Mr keyboard warrior.

You can disagree with someone and discuss the issue but saying "get over it" is rude, dismissive and tailored to generate an angry response. Or, trolling, to describe it in less words.

walter wall
15-03-2007, 23:20
Walter Wall - please chill.

Why do I need to chill ? It's not me getting uptight about a bit of crap on the lawn.

JoeP
15-03-2007, 23:22
Why do I need to chill ? It's not me getting uptight about a bit of crap on the lawn.

You don't have to post on this thread - if you choose to do so, you can at least post usefully rather than trying to troll.

walter wall
15-03-2007, 23:22
You can disagree with someone and discuss the issue but saying "get over it" is rude, dismissive and tailored to generate an angry response. Or, trolling, to describe it in less words.

Ah, I see. A bit like sticking your nose into something that doesn't concern you.

rubydazzler
15-03-2007, 23:25
You just can't tell some people, can you? :rolleyes:

JoeP
15-03-2007, 23:26
You just can't tell some people, can you? :rolleyes:

It all depends on how you tell 'em....

And on that, if we can return to topic it would be nice. :)

Strix
16-03-2007, 00:17
Firstly I'd report him for littering - £100 fine no I think

Secondly - report him to environmental health

thirdly - if you're feeling unpleasant, the tax office, just to be sure as you suspect (without a marked van) he's not doing this as a legitimate business - he's certainly not going about it in a professional manner :mad:

Fourthly - I'd start using a pressure washer to do your weeding on bin day :D

redrobbo
16-03-2007, 00:49
You are all advising her to report him as people habitually do on this forum but who should she report him to?

Environmental & Regulatory Services. I am sending esme a PM with the email address of the very person she needs to contact.

Red

Cyclone
16-03-2007, 07:43
Ah, I see. A bit like sticking your nose into something that doesn't concern you.

Were you describing yourself responding to the thread? Or me responding to you.
To quote you (if it's the latter) "Get over it".

upinwath
16-03-2007, 08:08
Are theses blokes on a council contract or a private business.
Use your mobile to record his comments and take photos of the mess.

If he's on contract moan to the council and if he's private pass the evidence to the cops if you think he's commiting a crime.

Behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace ?

DIVA
17-03-2007, 11:54
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


You really need to get out more.

PMSL! It's not her who's deliberately winding people up on a genuine thread for fun! No playstations where you come from boy?

Kurgon
12-06-2008, 20:23
38D's wow and he was nasty to you, he must have been partially sighted or gay