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tosh13
27-09-2004, 19:44
David Kelly has left Sheffield Utd to be assistant manager at Preston,Stuart McCall will take up the position of assistant manager after having success in the Pontins League.Good Luck Mac.UP THE BLADES

Beastieboy
24-10-2004, 09:55
Since there are quite a few Blades fans who like to post about the games why not have a dedicated thread to them?

I seem to get lost sometimes looking for a thread on a particular game different people go over them on different threads. Some have already started with Saturdays game on other threads but lets start with that one. C'mon you Blades get talking!

Beastieboy
24-10-2004, 10:02
I will start with Staurdays game v Plymouth, even though I have already put my views across on another thread.

We looked soft in the first half as I think Warnock may have told them to calm down with the red cards. With this in mind I think the players left some 50-50 chances to go, and we were not as tough in tackling.

Second half a bit more aggression was shown and it created some chances for us but we couldn't hit the target. Cad's, Shaw and Gray seemed to get mixed up at times (strikers instinct?) so chances went begging. A good solid perfomance from the back and midfield kept the game in our favour and then I wish I had put money on a Bromby header:gag: Nice finish from him and he is getting used to scoring headers now;)

A bit lazy on the second goal but held out well to go 6th for now. Keep up the run and it could be another good season.

Come on you Blades!

Robbie Loving
24-10-2004, 10:11
well........ this mini run has been waiting to come
7 games unbeaten!!
BRING ON WATFORD,
i know there normally a bogey team for us, but i have faith in my red and white wizards
and sky have kindly put crewe game on friday for us
IL HAVE SOME OF THAT

as for the plymoth game,
i hope there are some fans of theres on here,
cause there team and fans deserve credit
you cant get much further than plymoth, but they much have brought cloose to the 2000 figure for fans
and they was actually asking warnock for a wave, nice to see actually, as most fans hate him,
suppose he does have a bit of history with them though
the team that came to us yesterday, there is no star players, but what a great Team they have!! work hard for each otther, and was easily the better team in the first half,
the second half though, the tempo was upped, and that was it, they could not handle the pressure, and it was only a matter of time before we scored!!!

respect to plymoth, they made it very hard for us!!!

Beastieboy
24-10-2004, 10:17
Agree with you there. What a pleasant set of fans coming all that way. Warnock obliging to wave and applaud them at the end of the game was a nice touch:thumbsup: I am partial to Plymouth anyway as I have good friends down there so will be travelling for the away game.

As you say a good TEAM, no flash names just hard working for each other, a Warnock trait that I belive;)

Robbie Loving
24-10-2004, 10:24
yeah but plymoth is a tuesday night

i wanted to go down, as my brother said he would take me round bars as he used to be in navy down there

thats right, an owl was gonna come to plymoth game with me LOL

Robbie Loving
27-10-2004, 01:00
game tonight,
pure absymal
poor fitrst half, second half a bit better
and referee back down on 5 crucial incidents

firstly how can you be offside off a thrown in?
secondly when there keeper caught the ball it was behind the line
thirdly it was not a foul on the keeper and we would have scored off it
forthly, handball in the area is a penalty, not play on
and i forget the 5th cause im drunk

anyways, montgomery is still ****
kenny, well dint have much to do really
harley jags bromby morgan, solid as ever
thirlwell started well
tonge, injured
his replacement hurst did ok, no real mistakes, but did not set the world on fire
liddell was okish, few good crosses
gray, did not seem to know where he was playing
and lester, useless

shocking behaviour

Beastieboy
27-10-2004, 05:35
I honestly thought Gray wasn't playing, I missed the team line up as I wasn't listening and he was so quiet in the game. I think it was like last years QPR game, they weren't interested in the game and it showed with Paddy taking the secong penalty. It was on the cards for Paul Shaw to miss a pen' as he had been put on as a sub to take one.

It was the most boring game aswell, nearly fell off asleep as the ball spent more time out of play.

Robbie Loving
27-10-2004, 07:02
kennys penalty hit inside of post, half a centremeter inwards, would have been a classic penalty!!!

oh well, suppose we will rue it if they pull man utd or somebody in next round!!

RunningFree
27-10-2004, 07:59
Why aren't they playing him yet???

Robbie Loving
27-10-2004, 14:13
Originally posted by MarkB
Why aren't they playing him yet???


because we have a good defence already

why split it?

Beastieboy
27-10-2004, 16:51
It doesn't look good for Tongey! Apeearently he heard a crack in his ankle as he went down. We are now without Quinn and Tonge for the Crew game on Friday, looks like Kevan hurst may get a starting role unless Warnock plays Montgomery, Thirwell, Liddle and either Shaw or Gray in central midfield.

Beastieboy
27-10-2004, 16:53
I think he was always brought in as cover incase we got caught short, but also it may help him to find an English team after languishing in the lower leagues of Italy. From the reserve reports Iv'e read he is a decent player so we may see him yet.

robbie
27-10-2004, 17:37
considering we play on Friday:

a: we showed a complte lack of ambition to finish it in 90 mins (Forte in injury time? As a striker??)

b: We did not rest players for Friday

Robbie Loving
27-10-2004, 17:47
got an inkling forte may start on friday,

i really cant be doing with montgomery playing again!!
how can we play with him in side?

unless a loan signing comes in for friday think it will be gray in centre mid!!

or...............
we could play an audatious 4-3-3

have forte thirlwell and liddell in middle

gray cada and shaw up front

or........ keeping 4-4-2

put geary at right back, bromby in centre and push jags in to centre mid!! dont think that would be too bad actually

Beastieboy
27-10-2004, 18:12
I thought that Jags could go in midfield but will Warnock be that adventerous?

Tonges injury is not a break which is good but he will be out for Friday so a reshuffle is required.

Robbie Loving
27-10-2004, 18:19
Originally posted by Beastieboy
I thought that Jags could go in midfield but will Warnock be that adventerous?
.

my mate said that Geary could play in midfield,
now im pretty certain he cant,
possibly right, but my mate reckons centre mid??

robbie
28-10-2004, 22:05
Shaw in centre midfield? he played there for Gillingham...

Beastieboy
29-10-2004, 16:01
Looks like it's Shaw and Cads up front with Gray in a holding role and Geary possibly starting in midfield.

Beastieboy
29-10-2004, 20:57
3-2 to the Blades! and what a start to the game 3 goals in 7 mins during the first 11 mins of the game. What a free kick by Harley, Gray pops up yet again for a great header and he held up well in midfield and finally, Cadda gets on the mark! I hope that gets him going now as I do think he could make a difference upfront.

The first goal conceded was sloppy defending and a bit unlucky with the own goal. Geary made a decent start although he fell over quite a few times:rolleyes:

So in all a good performance as Crewe didn't cave in despite the score line early on. 7 games without defeat lets keep it up Blades!

vidster
29-10-2004, 21:20
Well impressed with the first 20 mins and quite happy with the rest of the game.
The jury is still out on Geary but then again i am a Kozluck fan anyway. We did'nt see much of Forte's pace for the 10 mins he got?.
All in all im chuffed, the team look good together and they are starting to gel really well.
Keep it up Blades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. :thumbsup:

Robbie Loving
30-10-2004, 00:28
great start to the game

we let foot off pedal though once 3rd goal went in!!

as for geary, he was playing well out of position, so you can not make a judgement on him at all!!
i think he did well to say that was his first time at left back

vidster
30-10-2004, 00:33
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
great start to the game

we let foot off pedal though once 3rd goal went in!!

as for geary, he was playing well out of position, so you can not make a judgement on him at all!!
i think he did well to say that was his first time at left back
I never made any judgement!. I said the jury is still out.

Beastieboy
02-11-2004, 19:49
Just listened to the first half and I thought we were going to concede 3 goals instead of scoring 3! 2 goals in 2 minutes but thank Bromby as he has scored to bring it back to 2-1.

Come on you Red and White wizards!

Robbie Loving
02-11-2004, 20:13
sadly 3-1 now GRRRRR

Robbie Loving
02-11-2004, 20:25
make that 5-1
with our best defence in too


unbelieveable!!

vidster
03-11-2004, 00:23
I'm thinking of 'chucking' a 'sickie'!. I certainly feel sick.:( :help:

Robbie Loving
03-11-2004, 08:46
well you know how it is vidster,

im really not surprised we lost, i hate playing ipswich!!
but i really didnt think it would be such a convincing scoreline,

oh well, its only a minor setback!!

BRING ON GILLINGHAM

wibbles
03-11-2004, 09:06
Originally posted by Beastieboy
Just listened to the first half and I thought we were going to concede 3 goals instead of scoring 3! 2 goals in 2 minutes but thank Bromby as he has scored to bring it back to 2-1.

Come on you Red and White wizards!

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hihi:

vidster
03-11-2004, 16:01
Originally posted by vidster
I'm thinking of 'chucking' a 'sickie'!. I certainly feel sick.:( :help:

It was'nt as bad as i thought at work. Then again, i do work with a load of Wendyites and Leeds oinks!. None of them are really in a position to take the p***.

robbie
03-11-2004, 17:23
a striker in midfield and a midfielder upfront? may work against poor sides but not good ones. torn assunder....

Beastieboy
03-11-2004, 19:36
Originally posted by wibbles
DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hihi:


D'oh! indeed! I said to a friend of mine that the game would be a high scoring draw or one team would get beaten badly.

We haven't really been tested after the Wigan Leicster games. So we come up against a very in form team scoring plenty of goals and not conceding many, we had scored a few goals but were leaking a few too. Don't like going to Ipswich anyway.

It's over now, let's get on with the season, hopefully we will learn but lets look to Saturday, i'm hoping this hasn't got the team down as I see a potential bannana skin in Gillingham. I am taking two people to their first Football game on Saturday, one is American so i'm hoping for a blitz from the blades!

Robbie Loving
03-11-2004, 19:56
Originally posted by robbie
a striker in midfield and a midfielder upfront? may work against poor sides but not good ones. torn assunder....


i dont get what you mean by this!!

Gray may usually play up front, but that is not always the case, even with bradford!!

and also shaw mainly plays up front so don't really see where you're coming from

robbie
04-11-2004, 20:13
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
i dont get what you mean by this!!

Gray may usually play up front, but that is not always the case, even with bradford!!

and also shaw mainly plays up front so don't really see where you're coming from

just that Gray is mainly a striker who can come back and Shaw was an attacking midfielder at Gillingham who can play upfront.

Point being we were playing a really good team away (who almost always spank us) and instead of tightening it up in midfield we were absolutely pulled apart. You can blame the defence but where was the midfield coming back to help?

scottf
05-11-2004, 08:36
Warnock doesn't look like he is going to change the side at all from tuesday night- why?? If i was manager and we lost 5-1 i would drop a few players and make them fight for there places!!!

stoatboy
05-11-2004, 09:54
Gillingham should be a nice way to get back on track, no disrespect to Gillingham but we should hammer them at home. We need the win to boost confidence, especially in defence bloody awful on Tuesday!
What about signing that MUTU bloke Ive got a spare sherbert dib dab he can have whilst he's in rehab?

scottf
05-11-2004, 10:30
he would fin in well i think :D :D

scottf
05-11-2004, 10:32
One question - why doesn't he play-

Harley, Quinn, Tongue, Liddell in midfield

and

Cadamarteri and gray upfront


surely thats GOT to be our strongest team??

Let shaw go back to rotherham and im sure we will manage with lester, forte, sharp (and the kabba and wardy when fit)

I just don't get warnocks obsession with having 8 strikers at all times!!!! Lester will leave soon if we don't start giving him more than 5 minutes a game.

Robbie Loving
05-11-2004, 10:50
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Warnock doesn't look like he is going to change the side at all from tuesday night- why?? If i was manager and we lost 5-1 i would drop a few players and make them fight for there places!!!


ok, fair enough, who you gonna replace and who you gonna replce them with?

Originally posted by stoatboy
What about signing that MUTU bloke Ive got a spare sherbert dib dab he can have whilst he's in rehab?

seen as warnock feels obliged t pick ward when fit, mutu would prob not get in in front of him!!

Originally posted by Scottandandy
One question - why doesn't he play-

Harley, Quinn, Tongue, Liddell in midfield

and

Cadamarteri and gray upfront


surely thats GOT to be our strongest team??

Let shaw go back to rotherham and im sure we will manage with lester, forte, sharp (and the kabba and wardy when fit)

I just don't get warnocks obsession with having 8 strikers at all times!!!! Lester will leave soon if we don't start giving him more than 5 minutes a game.


ok, jarley is good in midfield, but who do you suggest we put at left back??
wright is useless there, geary is well out of position there, so im just wondering who to have there if harley goes in midfield!!

tonge is currently injured, and he will play liddel quinn and tonge when they are all available!!
i personally dont mind having thirlwell there, he is somebody who you dont notice that much, but he does a hell of a lot for us!!

lester to leave?? think this may be best all round if im honest, im a fan of lesters, but what has he actually done in these short spells he has had on the pitch, or his full game against watford?? answer?? nothing!!

Originally posted by robbie
just that Gray is mainly a striker who can come back and Shaw was an attacking midfielder at Gillingham who can play upfront.

Point being we were playing a really good team away (who almost always spank us) and instead of tightening it up in midfield we were absolutely pulled apart. You can blame the defence but where was the midfield coming back to help?

gray came as an attacking midfielder, as did shaw,
where as gray has always come back (in to defence), shaw has always been lazy in that respective!!
now im not saying we should play shaw up front instead of gray, cause that is certainly not the case!! but while we are struggling for fit players in midfield i think gray is the better option in midfield than shaw, who is not good at that passing!!

scottf
05-11-2004, 11:14
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
ok, fair enough, who you gonna replace and who you gonna replce them with?


Try gabrelini at the defense- he has been playing very well in the reserves and has even scored twice- why not??

Robbie Loving
05-11-2004, 11:19
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Try gabrelini at the defense- he has been playing very well in the reserves and has even scored twice- why not??


hmmmm...... right, yeah you do have a point with gabrielli,
ok hes played well in the reserves, but they are really just practise matches!!

i dont know, i personally would not even think of dropping either jags or morgan to let somebody yet who has not proved himself!!

dont worry, refs hate jags and morgan, so he will soon get his chance through suspension

scottf
05-11-2004, 11:32
To be fair jags hasn't looked as solid as he did last year, she is playing well- don't get me wrong but he is slipping into the 'rodger nilsen' effect - ie- one big mistake a game.

morgan will get sent off again soon- we all know it ;)

Robbie Loving
05-11-2004, 11:45
Originally posted by Scottandandy
To be fair jags hasn't looked as solid as he did last year, she is playing well- don't get me wrong but he is slipping into the 'rodger nilsen' effect - ie- one big mistake a game.

morgan will get sent off again soon- we all know it ;)

yeah i know what you mean about jags,

but i think he still deserves to be in the side!!

the problem is, he was not even doing that well last season, it was season before he was really good!!

vidster
05-11-2004, 14:38
I don't think there is an easy answer concerning defence at the minuite. It should get better when Kozluck and Francis are fit.
I am a great fan of putting attack minded defenders in midfield so i love it when Harley plays left midfield.
I also think Sven could do a lot worse than put Ashley Cole in left midfield.

stoatboy
05-11-2004, 19:14
I do agree that we have too many strikers at the moment and some of them are well past their best namely Ward. If Lester did go I think it might give run to a more settled front line up, personally I'd like to see Gray and Cadematri. It's the classic small man big man routine and we do play a lot of direct football, it worked for Sunderland a few years back with Quinn and Phillips.
I why not start with Forte? A young eager lad, left footed, fast, and already showing great promise, he would scare defenders to death.
Then with the front line sorted we could maybe expand the midfield and get a creative midfielder in because we sadly lack it and havent really had it since Browny left.
So Neil if your reading get Forte on and see if Zidane fancies the tropical delights of the steel city.

Beastieboy
05-11-2004, 19:48
Originally posted by stoatboy
Gillingham should be a nice way to get back on track, no disrespect to Gillingham but we should hammer them at home. We need the win to boost confidence, especially in defence bloody awful on Tuesday!
What about signing that MUTU bloke Ive got a spare sherbert dib dab he can have whilst he's in rehab?

It's o.k. saying we will get back on track by winning these games but then if we come up against a good team on the run we will get beaten heavily again.

stoatboy
05-11-2004, 20:59
I would say that beating Gillingham gives the side confidence and belief. Ok we might meet a form side and beaten but there is more chance of getting a result if the team are playing with confidence. You only have to look at Owen at Madrid...gets written off at first and cant hit a cows arse with a banjo. Then he scores and now he cant stop.
Think positive brother.

robbie
05-11-2004, 23:53
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
ok, fair enough, who you gonna replace and who you gonna replce them with?



seen as warnock feels obliged t pick ward when fit, mutu would prob not get in in front of him!!




ok, jarley is good in midfield, but who do you suggest we put at left back??
wright is useless there, geary is well out of position there, so im just wondering who to have there if harley goes in midfield!!

tonge is currently injured, and he will play liddel quinn and tonge when they are all available!!
i personally dont mind having thirlwell there, he is somebody who you dont notice that much, but he does a hell of a lot for us!!

lester to leave?? think this may be best all round if im honest, im a fan of lesters, but what has he actually done in these short spells he has had on the pitch, or his full game against watford?? answer?? nothing!!



gray came as an attacking midfielder, as did shaw,
where as gray has always come back (in to defence), shaw has always been lazy in that respective!!
now im not saying we should play shaw up front instead of gray, cause that is certainly not the case!! but while we are struggling for fit players in midfield i think gray is the better option in midfield than shaw, who is not good at that passing!!


Gray came as a striker.

we have youth players that can paly in midfiled. Although we have a youth policy of NEVER giving youth a chance. Maybe Kev isnt signed up to be represented by his son as an agent. Although it is unlikely as we normally kickm out the ones who don't work with the Warnock family....

Beastieboy
07-11-2004, 08:11
Originally posted by stoatboy
I would say that beating Gillingham gives the side confidence and belief. Ok we might meet a form side and beaten but there is more chance of getting a result if the team are playing with confidence. You only have to look at Owen at Madrid...gets written off at first and cant hit a cows arse with a banjo. Then he scores and now he cant stop.
Think positive brother.

Well I hope that wasn't positive thinking from the Blades yesterday. The Gills haven't conceded in 3 games now but we had more than enough to score, as soon as we got to their penalty box we seemed to freeze. Could have tried a 3-3-4 since we were hoofing it up most of time and when we did use the ground to cross in from the wings no one was there.

Beastieboy
11-11-2004, 18:43
Harley is suspended and we still have loads of injuries. Gray, Tonge and Wright still out along with the long term ones. I hope it's a better performance than the one against them in the Carling Cup. Does anyone know the outcome of Warnocks appeal against his sending off against watford? He was going to ask Ray Lewington to be a witness for his defence.

scottf
12-11-2004, 09:45
Gray is definatly fit and will start from what i hear, he will play gray on the left of midfield and put shaw and cadimateri upfront with thurwell and quinn in the centre, i think we should do them this time, especially as there 2 big guns are out!!!

altho devlin has a nasty habit of scoring against his old teams doesn't he.

Beastieboy
12-11-2004, 18:28
Yes a nice smile crossed my face as I read that Watfords two strikers were out, but as you say Devlin is a threat. Good to hear Gray is in, can't be doing with him out at all.

vidster
12-11-2004, 19:06
We have nothing to worry about!. According to tonights Star, we a playing with 12 players tomorrow (we have 2 Quinn's in midfield).

Beastieboy
12-11-2004, 19:21
Good, one can tighten up the defence and the other can go forward, Sorted!

Beastieboy
13-11-2004, 16:21
Regarding my last. At least one Quinn scored but it seems the other couldn't shore up the defence:rolleyes: I didn't go to the game but heard Watford scored a good goal, anyone agree?

At least we didn't loose 4-1 to Swindon, should have been five if it wasn't for an offside ruling.

Robbie Loving
14-11-2004, 00:33
todays game was another waste of monet
dont know why i bother turning up for such drivel!!

quinny goal was a belter
as was watfords....

BUT...... seems kenny is getting beat from distance a bit too much lately, thats at least the 4th goal ive seen froim distance beat him at home this season

geary, started well, but did not finish too brightly
morgan jags and bromby solid

quinny, superb
gray was ok
thirlwell ok
liddell was a lot better before he joined us, need to improve

cada battled well again
shaw is once again a waste of space, drop him

sharp came on and did nothing
forte came on and was worst ive ever seen him
lester also did nothing

watford are such a bogey team

Beastieboy
14-11-2004, 10:04
I saw the Watford goal, it looked like Morgan was stood on the wrong of their striker to give him the space to turn. It was a great strike however, and I also think Kenny has been beaten a few to many times from distance, he doesn't have a big spring in his when it comes to jumping.

Robbie Loving
14-11-2004, 10:06
im starting to lose faith in kenny a bit to be honest!

i know hes a good keeper, and he has proved it many many times.

but hes doing awful this season, if a outfield player was not up to scratch they would be replaced (unless of course it was ashley ward)

Beastieboy
14-11-2004, 11:01
Since Kelly left we have really been a one keeper team, and in many respects we have been lucky with Keepers and injuries. I was watching the 2002-03 season dvd and even then some of the goals past Kenny could have been dealt with if not for his diving. I don't want to critisise him too much as I am a Kenny fan but his kicking lately has been a bit off too, I missed the Watford game due to work but have been to every other game and he can't kick straight.

Robbie Loving
14-11-2004, 11:08
Originally posted by Beastieboy
I missed the Watford game due to work but have been to every other game and he can't kick straight.

this has been noted by me!

but on a plus point, his throwing distribution has actually got better

Beastieboy
14-11-2004, 11:29
Yes, when he collects the ball he is very good with his throwing. But sometimes no one is running for him to throw it to.

scottf
15-11-2004, 09:11
I agree with your comments about paddy but when it cmes to a 1-2-1 situation id bet my house on him, his shot stopping is very impressive (possibly because of his size), i think that andy leaning need to get him to work on his jumping as he isn't the biggest keeper and does leave the corners to morgs rather than coming to collect.

Im sorry to say it but what a dire game?? i know we had a few players missing but our midfield looked very poor, thurwell played well (apart from letting him turn for there goal) and quinny came inside and attacked well but why play gray in the middle - that man is a striker now and behaves like a striker most of the time, we needed someone who is prepared to work like monty in there on saturday- even tho im not montys biggest fan he would have done a better job than gray.

At the end of the day we still havn't replaced michael brown and it shows.

Morgs and jags looked solid and bromby was outstanding as usual but im still worried by the leprechaun at the back - sorry sorry- geary, i just don't think he is good enough-at the end of the day, what is wrong with that gabrielini guy? he looks like a good defender from what i have seen from reserve matches.

Bring on derby, there in form but i think it should be a good game.

Oh year- 4-1 at swindon- haahaahaahaahaahaahaahaa!!!

carcrash
15-11-2004, 16:37
United have signed Luke Becket for £50.000. Looks like a good deal to me.

retroboy
15-11-2004, 16:49
this is a great signing for utd - he has banged them in where every he has played chesterfield stockport.

Lets hope he carries on in the same vain.

Internetowl
15-11-2004, 16:49
Didn't Hull turn him down due to his injury record just last week...

Good luck ;)

kelly_owls
15-11-2004, 17:10
He's overrated. When we played Stockport last weekend we made him look anonymous, he was crap and it's hardly because we outshone him is it?!?!

A.B.Yaffle
15-11-2004, 17:36
Does anyone have any idea who these other 2 strikers Warnock is bidding for are?

Robbie Loving
15-11-2004, 17:42
My Immediate though

EXCELLENT SIGNING

and now im thinking

EXCELLENT SIGNING

let all sing it

"bye bye paul shaw, bye bye paul shaw"

think this may also signal the end to either lester or wards career at the lane

Robbie Loving
15-11-2004, 17:43
Originally posted by kelly_owls
He's overrated. When we played Stockport last weekend we made him look anonymous, he was crap and it's hardly because we outshone him is it?!?!

Wasn't wednesday going to sign him until bids got rejected?

i dont know how you can say he is overrated
his record speaks for itself, excellent signing

robbie
15-11-2004, 18:42
good signing (I'm in shock) bound to turn into an injury prone flop though:suspect:

someone has to keep Ward, Lester and Kabba company in the bar

vidster
15-11-2004, 19:11
Let's get rid of Shaw Lester and especially Ward anyway!

A.B.Yaffle
15-11-2004, 20:17
Originally posted by kelly_owls
He's overrated. When we played Stockport last weekend we made him look anonymous, he was crap and it's hardly because we outshone him is it?!?!

He must be really bad, as the Owls have been desperate to sign him for a while now! :confused:

Hopefully he'll score a few goals for the Blades. :thumbsup:

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:17
Still think he would have been better spending the 50grand each he spent for cadimateri and beckett on an established striker, now we ned to offload ward (who is the top earner at utd), shaw (crap), Lester (not needed) and concentrate of bringing our younger players through- even loaning them out!!!

Robbie Loving
16-11-2004, 10:19
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Still think he would have been better spending the 50grand each he spent for cadimateri and beckett on an established striker, now we ned to offload ward (who is the top earner at utd), shaw (crap), Lester (not needed) and concentrate of bringing our younger players through- even loaning them out!!!

and who exactly would we get for 100k?

i believe beckett is an established striker, he has proved himself, and in recent years bids of over 500k have been turned down for him.

cada is looking good for us,

can you give me any examples who we would get for 100k?

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:25
Warnock has got more than 100k though, he has said live on radio sheffield he could spend upto £500,000 if he wanted to!!!!

Robbie Loving
16-11-2004, 10:25
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Warnock has got more than 100k though, he has said live on radio sheffield he could spend upto £500,000 if he wanted to!!!!

ok, who we going to get with 500k?

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:28
oh now your asking - lol!!!

But im pretty sure there would be lots of premiership strikers who are 3rd or 4th in the packing order who would love a chance to come to bramall lane and have a pop!!!

Robbie Loving
16-11-2004, 10:39
Originally posted by Scottandandy
oh now your asking - lol!!!

But im pretty sure there would be lots of premiership strikers who are 3rd or 4th in the packing order who would love a chance to come to bramall lane and have a pop!!!

ha but this is where we are going back to "established" strikers!

i would have liked david healy to come and joined us.
and macken was looking a possibility for loan signing!
bentley was linked with us too

he has only cost 50k, i believe he will do well will becket, if not, i dont have any doubt in my mind we can reclaim the money paid and more

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:44
Yeah i guess, it just frustrates me when we see the amount of strikers we have and non of them are scoring!!!

Kabba (injured of course)
Ward (always injured)
cadimateri
forte
sharp
gray
shaw
lester
beckett

Thats 9 strikers!!! There comes a point where you begin to think its the manager who is not buying the right players rather than the strikers not scoring!!

Robbie Loving
16-11-2004, 10:52
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Yeah i guess, it just frustrates me when we see the amount of strikers we have and non of them are scoring!!!

Kabba (injured of course)
Ward (always injured)
cadimateri
forte
sharp
gray
shaw
lester
beckett

Thats 9 strikers!!! There comes a point where you begin to think its the manager who is not buying the right players rather than the strikers not scoring!!

kabba was starting to do well
so 1 striker scoring
sharp has not really been given a proper chance, nor has forte
gray is scoring
so thats 2
beckett has not been given a chance
lester and ward have mainly been injured
but lester scored 12 i think it was last season
shaw is just a waste of space

the strikers id like to see left at the lane, are
beckett
gray
sharp
forte
kabba
cadamarteri

think sharp should be loaned out though personally, give him a bit of first team experience, as should hurst!!

personally, if i was to suggest bringing somebody in, ask arsene for a player, alliadere loks good, as does lupoli!!
maybe man utd would be prepared to lend us bellion!!
neil mellor of liverpool is another loan option!!
chopra went to barnsley from newcastle, i believe that would have been a good signing
i think if we offered 500k for Hume of tranmere that would be a good signing!
we could pick luke rogers up from shrewsbury for about 50k, another potential player!

there are so many players that would fit in our team!

but i think a place we need to improve is midfield, we need a big centre midfielder!!

scottf
16-11-2004, 10:54
Bring back tri dellas ;)

i agree though- the midfield is poor, it has been since brown left even with the addition of quinn and thurwell we just don't seem to distribute the ball as well.

Robbie Loving
16-11-2004, 11:11
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Bring back tri dellas ;)

i agree though- the midfield is poor, it has been since brown left even with the addition of quinn and thurwell we just don't seem to distribute the ball as well. its not just brown we miss its also mccall

scottf
16-11-2004, 11:25
Neverthought id hear that - lol!!!

But yes, he is the voice of expierence that organised them around, he needs to start doing that from the sidelines.

Robbie Loving
16-11-2004, 11:28
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Neverthought id hear that - lol!!!

But yes, he is the voice of expierence that organised them around, he needs to start doing that from the sidelines.

perhaps.................... thirlwell coudl grow a big ginger mullet,
he is from sunderland so woudln't find it too hard to make his voice unrecognisable from the outside world!
hes about same height too

vidster
16-11-2004, 16:42
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
its not just brown we miss its also mccall

SPOT ON that man!. McCall made us play, he did'nt give the rest of the team a choice. I do think that Tongue has missed the confidence that came from Browney. I read the other day that Wigan are about to offer 1.5million for Brown?.

I have a feeling that Warnock is fast tracking McCall through his coaching badges for a reason;)

Robbie Loving
17-11-2004, 18:08
wait for it boyys...............................


stikers linked with united

Geoff Horsfield

Nathan Blake

*drum roll*


NEIL MELLOR

a 500K bid has been put in for neil,

horsefield and mellow would be excellent signings
not keen on blake

vidster
17-11-2004, 19:17
I heard about Mellor too but i read 300k. Either way, if it's true it finally shows we have realised the need to spend big (well quite big). Hopefully the Nathan Blake story is wrong, we already have one has-been in the shape of sick note....sorry Ward;)

Beastieboy
17-11-2004, 19:26
If it's true then good luck. I hope we can get Mellor in, not to sure who about Horsfield and Blake though.

carcrash
17-11-2004, 23:45
Did mellors dad play for united or wednesday at some point?

A.B.Yaffle
18-11-2004, 01:15
I think Mellor would be a good buy.

Malcolm Christie is another player being linked to the Blades. I think he is at Middlesborough.

redinsheff
18-11-2004, 07:35
Just spoke to a mate of mine who's a stockport fan (poor sod!) he's basically laughin his socks off at the deal for Beckett... reckons after the last injury he's come back a shade of his former self, lacking in pace and has certainly left his shooting boots somewhere....

nice...er....buy Neil.... (or should that be BYE NEIL???)

Ned Ludd
18-11-2004, 09:19
Good to see that the board have given Neil some proper cash to spend at last.

Robbie Loving
18-11-2004, 14:41
Originally posted by redinsheff
Just spoke to a mate of mine who's a stockport fan (poor sod!) he's basically laughin his socks off at the deal for Beckett... reckons after the last injury he's come back a shade of his former self, lacking in pace and has certainly left his shooting boots somewhere....

nice...er....buy Neil.... (or should that be BYE NEIL???)


hmmmm lets see

7 goals in 15 games for a player who is playing for a ppor team fighting against relegation??

think thats awful spending do you?

even if he is a flop, we will get our 50k back for him no problem.

as said before

EXCELLENT SIGNING

vidster
18-11-2004, 16:07
I read today that we are lining up a 1million bid for Brett Ormerod from Southampton. I don't think Warnock has that much to spend and i am praying he does'nt sign Omerod!;)

vidster
18-11-2004, 16:33
It's just been on Sky sports news. Neill Warnock has confirmed a £500,000 bid has been made for Mellor. I did'nt hear what the rest said thanks to an over exiteable daughter!.
I don't think it will happen now that Milan Baros is injured:(

bigrods
18-11-2004, 18:53
From the Liverpool website:

'Contrary to reports emanating from Bramall Lane, we can confirm that Liverpool Football Club has received no official bid from Sheffield United for striker Neil Mellor.
Anfield officials are mystified by quotes attributed to Blades boss Neil Warnock, stating that he'd made a bid of £500,000 for the services of Mellor.

Warnock told United's official website http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk: "We have tabled a bid of around £500,000 as we need a striker of his calibre. He has good movement, an eye for a goal, and is very athletic. He's from Sheffield, and we think he would do an excellent job for the Blades.

"Other clubs are interested, and it remains to be seen whether Liverpool would be prepared to sell Neil to anyone at this time, or whether they would prefer to wait until the January transfer window. We'll have to wait and see."'

Someone's telling porkies....

Why would our directors give the go-ahead for a NINTH!! striker, especially if we are signing him 6 weeks after buying Beckett???

Bit of a coincidence this happens straight after the team get booed off AGAIN at home, and questions asked of Warnock and the board, don't you think??

Beastieboy
18-11-2004, 21:03
I know Paddy Kenny only played one half of the Ireland game but do you think internationals affect the players?

We have Derby on sat who are looking good at the minute, and Kenny plus Quinn have been away training.

Now the Mellor bid is public someone will step in before us to get him, if Liverpool will allow him to go now Baros is injured.

scottf
19-11-2004, 10:03
with liverpools current striker shortage there is no chance we would get mellor- good try though.

BIG no score on blake though.

ned- warnock has always had the money, he is just reluctant to spend it.

rjo2
20-11-2004, 15:42
while readin this i **** help but realise that people were callin paul shaw crap!!!
at last.uv seen the light!!

Beastieboy
20-11-2004, 19:49
V Derby:

My mate went down but I haven't heard from him yet. I have seen the goal, a nice strike from Quinn. I didn't get chance to listen to it, did anybody hear or go to the game?

vidster
20-11-2004, 20:04
The first half sounded like the Paul Peschisolido show, although we were more than holding our own. I don't know about the second half as i had to go out.
It looks as if Neill Warnock has rekindled the fire inside Quinn and Bromby. Long may it continue!

vidster
22-11-2004, 18:22
I've just been having a nosey around the Blades site and it looks as if Rob Kozluck has started training again. He is hoping to have some sort of game in the next couple of weeks!.

Bad news about Kabba....
He has now got tendinitis in his knee and Neill Warnock says he will be lucky to play this season! :mad:.

Beastieboy
22-11-2004, 19:26
Hmm a dilema for Warnock at the back if we have no more fresh injuries. Bromby, Jags, Morgs are safe IMO then he has a choice of Wright, Koz (when he's fully fit) and Geary even though he is playing out of position. Plus don't forget Harley is a Left back originally so who will he pick?

If Warnock continues to play Gray in midfield then will it mean Harley drops back when Tonge is fully fit?

This would be the logical line up, but where to fit in the other players if all fully fit?

Bromby, Jags, Morgs, Harley

Liddel, Thirwell, Quinn, Tonge

Cads/Beckett?, Gray

vidster
22-11-2004, 21:01
I personally think Kozluck was playing better than anyone else we have at the moment at left back (not including Harley But i have plans for him) before he got injured. We should leave the two Hobbits for emergencies once Kozluck has found his form again.
As for Harley, I think he is better in midfield. His defensive side helps him drop back better than most when he thinks he may be needed, yet when he gets within 35yards of the net the opposition defence start to $**t themselves.
My midfield would change depending on who we were playing.
I would have Harley, Tongue, Quinn, Liddle as one possibility and Harley, Tongue, Thirlwell, Liddel as my other favourite midfield.

I think we are also going to see a wave of unhappy players leaving the lane in the near future. We have too many good players for them not to be playing regularly and the situation will not be helped when players like Francis come back, not to mention Warnock's favourite son Ward!.

Robbie Loving
22-11-2004, 23:30
i think tonge does not perform properly when in centre mid, so would leave him left mid!!

harley at the back cause he works well with tonge!!

i think the thirlwell/quinn partnership is a bit too small, but i would not wanna drop either. obviously liddell is safe on right, although i did love the few glimpses we saw of francis there!!

i think a problem will arise if armstrong g#comes back,

he is a top player

Beastieboy
23-11-2004, 17:03
I forgot about Francis and Armstrong. I would really like to see them playing as I think they could be a driving force in the team if they get back to full fitness (especially Armstrong).

robbie
23-11-2004, 18:08
"SHEFFIELD United possess one of the most powerful midfields in the Championship, says manager Neil Warnock as the countdown to Saturday's crucial visit of Wolves continues"

you know I hate Warnock but he is a comic genius (article here) (http://www.thisissheffield.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=59&ArticleID=892784)

SuPeRbLaDe
25-11-2004, 19:46
does anyone know if jack lester has gone to nottingham? the star says that they are interested but by reading the site it talks as if he has already gone!

why lester? why not that donkey ward?

vidster
25-11-2004, 21:29
Originally posted by SuPeRbLaDe
does anyone know if jack lester has gone to nottingham? the star says that they are interested but by reading the site it talks as if he has already gone!

why lester? why not that donkey ward?

Because everyone except Neill Warnock knows Ward is a donkey!.

It was only a matter of time before we started loosing players like Lester.

Robbie Loving
25-11-2004, 23:21
Originally posted by vidster

It was only a matter of time before we started loosing players like Lester.

hes not been a shadow of himself for a long time!!

he was getting worse, just like asaba in fact, always liked that one too touch too many

good riddance i say

and we got 50k, GET IN

vidster
25-11-2004, 23:32
Who next then?. Ward, Shaw and Monty?.

Obviously i'm talking s**t when it comes to Ward. Neill would rather sell the rest of the squad first :hihi:

Robbie Loving
26-11-2004, 07:47
Originally posted by vidster
Who next then?. Ward, Shaw and Monty?.

Obviously i'm talking s**t when it comes to Ward. Neill would rather sell the rest of the squad first :hihi:

if all 3 was to go, i would be relatively pleased,
may shorten the squad, but it would stop them playing for us, which i dont think they give anything to us

igm1
26-11-2004, 07:57
Originally posted by SuPeRbLaDe
does anyone know if jack lester has gone to nottingham? the star says that they are interested but by reading the site it talks as if he has already gone!

why lester? why not that donkey ward?

My elder sister's partner is friends with him.

scottf
26-11-2004, 09:07
50k - thats a good deal if you would hae asked me last week to swap lester for beckett i would definatly have agreed.

Ward out next please warnock.

Agent Gypo
26-11-2004, 11:36
It baffles me that Warnock keeps buying all these cheap strikers despite having plans to spend on bigger names in january.

Get rid of Ward!

Beastieboy
27-11-2004, 11:52
No new injury worries for the Blades as Wolves visit.I remember the 3-3 the other season, what at game that was! Now super jack has gone I wonder who will be on the bench in his place. Paul Shaw returns to the team but didn't say if he would start.

Beastieboy
27-11-2004, 11:54
Story on the Blades website Here (http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~593715,00.html)

Oh yeah, get rid of Ward before he comes back to ruin it all!!!

Robbie Loving
28-11-2004, 11:58
wel who would have predicted such a thing as of yesterday!!

sloppy defending with jags at the centre of the sloppyness

kenny, wel i dont think he actually did anything yesterday

harley, okish game, but he did not perform to how i know he can

morgan, hmmm did okish

jags, a few mistakes during the game, but what can you do when there is nobody to replace him?

bromby, another who did not perform to his best, but still did relatively well

tonge, he did ok....... but i cant se the reason he got brought off, will go in to that in a bit

quinny, again sootd firm in midfield as did thirlweell, top marks to these too

liddell actually looked a different player (in a good way)

and i could not believe my eyes loking on pitch at begining
i was in ladrbookes, SHAW was on bench, i thought GET IN!!
frank sinclair was reading the teams that are starting
SHAW WAS ON THE BENCH, lovely.......

SO WHY, was he starting?? i was astounded and i had to ask the bloke sat next to me "is that shaw" cause i thought i was going crazy!

anyways, shaw was as useles as ever, got a lucky first touch for his goal, but granted he seemed to improve after that!

gray, is not looking as good as i expect him too either!!

but for some reason, all this was fiiting together, and it was a really good game!!

so then, warnoc plays tinker man!!thought he made a good change bringing becket on, although i would have taken shaw off!
although beckett did nothing, was nice to see him on pitch!

then came the masterstroke from warnock!
MONTY on for TONGE, well.... this had a great effect on the game

quinny put out on to left, and now we have to defensive midfielders in the centre, my word, what a shambles! the midfield lost its shape and wolves started running rings round us.

now for the referee, poor referee. wolves had a very strong penalty appeal i though, and we was very fortunate to get away with it, while it was 2-2

then at the end liddell crossed bal in which hit the wolves player, the player went down, and we carried on with our attack, around 30 seconds later, ust as a ball was about to be swung in to the box, he stops play!! the referee goes over to the player and he immediately got up, the ref knew he had been connec, but he could now only give a drop ball!
absolutely disgraceful decision!

anyways.... i dint hear any bos from our fans this time which was quite pleasing, but this is our 6th draw at the lane, we need to improve on that!! but overal god game

Beastieboy
28-11-2004, 14:35
I refer to my Montgomery thread, should he stay or go? Well let him go! it was his lack of effort in midfield that led to the goal. If He had closed down the Wolves player on the half way line instead of letting him run we may not have conceded the third goal.

The other season was 3-3 and I was tempted to put a few quid on a bet for that, but an entertaining game and some good strikes by the blades!

duffman
29-11-2004, 11:02
8 wins 8 draws and 5 losses, it's not so much the losses that get me but the amount of draws that could/should have been wins. The table is still pretty close so we need to tighten up soon.

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 11:04
Originally posted by duffman
8 wins 8 draws and 5 losses, it's not so much the losses that get me but the amount of draws that could/should have been wins. The table is still pretty close so we need to tighten up soon.

when you have drawn 6 at home and only 3 there is something wrong

especially when 5 have have been won away!!

scottf
29-11-2004, 11:25
we need to start winning these home games- points dropped against wolves, gillingham and other teams- them dropped points would have us near the top of the table and i believe that it will cost us at the end of the season.

Good to see beckett getting a run (even if he did chase after the ball like a headless chicken when he came on) - does anyone else think he looked a bit slow??

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 11:27
Originally posted by Scottandandy

Good to see beckett getting a run (even if he did chase after the ball like a headless chicken when he came on) - does anyone else think he looked a bit slow??

ive seen 5 year olds run faster

scottf
29-11-2004, 12:02
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
ive seen 5 year olds run faster

Good- it wasn't just me- tony dailly should whip him into shape though- our entire squad is really fit.

duffman
29-11-2004, 12:03
Cads is turning into Lloyd Owuwuwuwususus? Remember every time he scored for wendy he was sick, I sure was when they beat us at Hillsborugh the other year and he scored.

duffman
29-11-2004, 12:10
Neil Mellor.

Well I suppose any chance of signing him are scupperd after his wonder goal against Arsenal, what a strike.

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 12:11
Originally posted by duffman
Neil Mellor.

Well I suppose any chance of signing him are scupperd after his wonder goal against Arsenal, what a strike.

agreed,

i thought 500k was a bit low for ihim in first instance anyways

wibbles
29-11-2004, 12:28
Originally posted by duffman
Neil Mellor.

Well I suppose any chance of signing him are scupperd after his wonder goal against Arsenal, what a strike.
Why would he want to go to United anyway?? What can they offer him apart from mid table First Division obscurity??
The lad's got some ambition so I would imagine that IF he decided to leave Liverpool then a club like Sheffield United would be the last place to go.

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 12:31
Originally posted by wibbles
Why would he want to go to United anyway?? What can they offer him apart from mid table First Division obscurity??
The lad's got some ambition so I would imagine that IF he decided to leave Liverpool then a club like Sheffield United would be the last place to go.

why would it??

we can offer him first team footbal in his HOMETOWN club

wibbles
29-11-2004, 12:35
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
why would it??

we can offer him first team footbal in his HOMETOWN club
Wow..what an incentive to leave a Premiership club.
Personally I think another more ambitious club would sign him and he would prefer to go there rather than Sheffield United.

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 12:44
Originally posted by wibbles
Wow..what an incentive to leave a Premiership club.
Personally I think another more ambitious club would sign him and he would prefer to go there rather than Sheffield United.

why are we not ambitious??
just because we have a steady ship we are not "ambitious"

we have quite a lot of good players at the lane actually!!
we are also pushing for promotion for premiership!!

scottf
29-11-2004, 12:56
if we are going to have a chance of going up then the board need to convince these players that we are capable of staying up there!!

duffman
29-11-2004, 14:42
Neil Mellor Went to West Ham on loan, they're only one place above the blades plus when the January transfer window opens Liverpool may buy a striker or two, then when Baros is back this could push Mellor into the the back seats so he may want to go somewhere to get first team action. Where better to try and prove yourself than a team pushing for promotion/playoffs? especially if it's your hometown.

wibbles
29-11-2004, 14:52
Originally posted by duffman
Neil Mellor Went to West Ham on loan, they're only one place above the blades plus when the January transfer window opens Liverpool may buy a striker or two, then when Baros is back this could push Mellor into the the back seats so he may want to go somewhere to get first team action. Where better to try and prove yourself than a team pushing for promotion/playoffs? especially if it's your hometown.
There's a difference in stature and reputation between West Ham and Sheffield United.
There's also a massive difference in opinions and amount of respect for the managers of both teams.
Alan Pardew is widely respected and held in high regard by fellow professionals and managers alike whereas Neil Warnock is a complete idiot who talks out of his arse.
Unfortunately Sheffield United is tarnished with Warnocks brush and doesn't really sell itself as a club thats progressing.

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 14:58
Originally posted by wibbles
Alan Pardew is widely respected and held in high regard by fellow professionals and managers

why is he?

wibbles
29-11-2004, 15:00
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
why is he?
Mainly because of his attitude and the way he behaves and conducts himself. Alan Pardew is only an example (someone mentioned West Ham previously).

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 15:05
Originally posted by wibbles
Mainly because of his attitude and the way he behaves and conducts himself. Alan Pardew is only an example (someone mentioned West Ham previously).

yeah but you state he is widely respective, when really he isnt!!

neil warnock maybe idiotic or whatever you wanna say, but you cant deny that he is a good manager,

and id bet if you asked anyone in football what they thought of playing his teams, they would state they are tough to break down

scottf
29-11-2004, 15:06
I am a warnock fan but i must agree with wibbles here- i know many rival fans who like our team as a whole but think warnock is a total pratt and is holding united back, in a way they are right- he IS very outspoken and he DOES go OTT about some stuff, but thats warnock- he wears his heart on his sleeve for the blades!

duffman
29-11-2004, 15:06
Originally posted by wibbles
Neil Warnock is a complete idiot who talks out of his arse.

Maybe so but he has brought in good players before and he must have been able to sell the club to them, so he isn't always talking out of it.

wibbles
29-11-2004, 15:14
Originally posted by duffman
Maybe so but he has brought in good players before and he must have been able to sell the club to them, so he isn't always talking out of it.
To be fair they can't be that good otherwise why are Sheffield United still in the First Division??..sorry..Coca Cola chamionship..so I guess they did kinda get promoted.
Wearing his heart on his sleeve is the easy excuse. but at the end of the day he talks a lots of BS and is a laughing stock of the division.

robbie
29-11-2004, 19:15
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
why are we not ambitious??
just because we have a steady ship we are not "ambitious"

we have quite a lot of good players at the lane actually!!
we are also pushing for promotion for premiership!!

a few weeks ago our first 11 cost less than 100k, we get outbid for players by most other Chamspionship sides and cannot get anyone decent on loan.

Wednesday have a lot worse debt than us yet still manage to pay more money for players.

We have never had ambition (apart from the Mcdonald period)

we are slightly tapping towards mid table obscurity....

Robbie Loving
29-11-2004, 23:45
Originally posted by robbie
a few weeks ago our first 11 cost less than 100k, we get outbid for players by most other Chamspionship sides and cannot get anyone decent on loan.

Wednesday have a lot worse debt than us yet still manage to pay more money for players.

We have never had ambition (apart from the Mcdonald period)

we are slightly tapping towards mid table obscurity....

well if people got behind there side more often IE YOU

the perhaps we would not be so "unabmitious"

scottf
30-11-2004, 08:55
Originally posted by robbie
Wednesday have a lot worse debt than us yet still manage to pay more money for players.

Now don't be daft- examples please??

scottf
30-11-2004, 08:58
Question for blades fans-

If you could have looked at the current table before the season started and seen that we was in 7th place going into december - would you have been happy?

Yes or no?

Robbie Loving
30-11-2004, 09:11
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Question for blades fans-

If you could have looked at the current table before the season started and seen that we was in 7th place going into december - would you have been happy?

Yes or no?

No

wibbles
30-11-2004, 09:12
I must admire Warnock's tactical nouse. Lets buy as many strikers as possible and play the 1-10 formation.
Now there's rumours he's made a bid for Bobby Zamora

Robbie Loving
30-11-2004, 09:15
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Now don't be daft- examples please??

Adam Produlock i think is the only noticeable one to be honest!!

so when you think about it, our board MAY just MAY be a bit more ambitious!!

Lets see who we have signed for money,

Cadamarteri 50k
Kenny 42.5k
Beckett 50k
Gray 50k (i believe)
Francis 50k (i believe)
Kabba 250k
Armstrong 100k
Geary 50k
Shaw 90k

Robbie Loving
30-11-2004, 09:16
Originally posted by wibbles
I must admire Warnock's tactical nouse. Lets buy as many strikers as possible and play the 1-10 formation.
Now there's rumours he's made a bid for Bobby Zamora

i must point you to this story

"Neil Warnock today denied that West Ham striker Bobby Zamora is his top transfer target, says the Sheffield Star

The United manager, who has made no secret of his desire to increase the firepower at his team's disposal, has been linked with a succession of big names after revealing that he has been given £500,000 to spend on a proven goalscorer.

But after talk increased over the weekend that Zamora, who moved to Upton Park from Tottenham in February, is being lined up for a move to South Yorkshire, Warnock admitted: "I don't think we could afford Bobby. And I don't think West Ham could get away with letting anyone go. Bobby isn't one of the three I've spoken to manager's about."

One of those, Liverpool's Neil Mellor, scored a spectacular winner against Arsenal yesterday.

The identities of the other two have been kept secret, although Warnock has confirmed both are attached to Premiership clubs.

That has led to intense speculation about who they might be, with Geoff Horsfield being mentioned."

scottf
30-11-2004, 10:27
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
No

no?? could you explain why your not happy?

with the amount of good teams that ae in the division i think we are doing well, united are not going to be strong enough to go up automatically but i think we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.

Robbie Loving
30-11-2004, 10:39
Originally posted by Scottandandy
no?? could you explain why your not happy?

with the amount of good teams that ae in the division i think we are doing well, united are not going to be strong enough to go up automatically but i think we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.

look at our team, we have a solid team!!

Kenny (supposedly best keeper in league :loopy: )
Bromby, (doing great)
Morgan (solid)
Jags (potential)
Harley (best left back in league with out question)
Tonge (potential)
Quinn (quality)
Thirlwel (great al rounder)
Liddell (not showing what he is made of but great)
Gray (quality)
Cadamarteri (not much to say realy)

thats just the 1st 11, you cant say they should not be up near the top 4!

then we have geary
beckett
francis
kozluk
armstrong
barnes
Kabba
Forte
Geary

Yes i know some of them have been long term injuries,
but i have not mentioned the players that have made minimal impact with us this season

our team is strong, and should be competing for the top places!

im not complaining at 7th, because i know that we are playing wel, but we are being unlucky!

The reason that i am dissapointed most, is that we have drawn SIX at home!! how can you accomodate for such abysmal home form when you are supposedly a top 6 side!!

our away form is magnificent, won 5 drawn 2 lost 3!!
some peoplemay blame it on the fans being negative at home, but what more do you expect with how we started our home form this season, i have never once booed, obviously i get frustrated, but i am one of those, no matter how bad the performance i will stand there at the end and applaud the players, because i know at least they have tried!!

the reason im disappointed is because i KNOW we are better than we show sometime

scottf
30-11-2004, 11:21
I do agree with your comments robbie, BUT look at wolves and leeds etc etc- they have many a talented player and are still at the wrong end of the table- at the minute in happy to be 2 points behind west ham!!! once our injury situation improves i think we will mount a very strong challenge IF warnock can get the tactics right (which, lets face it. he sometimes doesn't), he needs to play players in there natural positions and give some players a chance instead of sticking by the 'usuals' i.e- shaw and ward (if ever fit)

wibbles
30-11-2004, 11:46
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
i must point you to this story

"Neil Warnock today denied that West Ham striker Bobby Zamora is his top transfer target, says the Sheffield Star

The United manager, who has made no secret of his desire to increase the firepower at his team's disposal, has been linked with a succession of big names after revealing that he has been given £500,000 to spend on a proven goalscorer.

But after talk increased over the weekend that Zamora, who moved to Upton Park from Tottenham in February, is being lined up for a move to South Yorkshire, Warnock admitted: "I don't think we could afford Bobby. And I don't think West Ham could get away with letting anyone go. Bobby isn't one of the three I've spoken to manager's about."

One of those, Liverpool's Neil Mellor, scored a spectacular winner against Arsenal yesterday.

The identities of the other two have been kept secret, although Warnock has confirmed both are attached to Premiership clubs.

That has led to intense speculation about who they might be, with Geoff Horsfield being mentioned."
Right..so he doesn't think he can afford Zamora but thinks he can afford Neil Mellor??..:loopy:

Robbie Loving
30-11-2004, 12:02
Originally posted by wibbles
Right..so he doesn't think he can afford Zamora but thinks he can afford Neil Mellor??..:loopy:

you have to remember zamora came as part exchange and was worth something like 2 million a year back,
he is also playing at upton park,

as for melor, this is a player who was only a bit part player and did not seem to get a look in until injuries permitted.
so half a mill looked a good bid, may have been a bit cheeky, i would rather see mellow down there than zamora anyways

robbie
30-11-2004, 18:49
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Now don't be daft- examples please??

last summer.

robbie
30-11-2004, 18:50
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
well if people got behind there side more often IE YOU

the perhaps we would not be so "unabmitious"

that really happens when we get full houses and large crowds does it?

robbie
30-11-2004, 18:51
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Question for blades fans-

If you could have looked at the current table before the season started and seen that we was in 7th place going into december - would you have been happy?

Yes or no?

with the players that we have used yes....

robbie
30-11-2004, 18:56
Kenny (great last season. Bit iffier and less solid this season)
Bromby, (best player this season so far)
Morgan (solid mid Championschip player)
Jags (potential and mistake ridden)
Harley (great going forward. Not so great defensively-done little)
Tonge (potential which he has never realised and not improving)
Quinn (quality but temperomental)
Thirlwel (not proved himself but a decent player)
Liddell (decent championship winger)
Gray (quality championship mid-table striker)
Cadamarteri (failure at all clubs)

we have 0 players who are premiership class at the moment. Kenny and Jags have potential but are having poorer seasons and Jags at least has become a liability)

Robbie Loving
30-11-2004, 22:19
Originally posted by robbie
Kenny (great last season. Bit iffier and less solid this season)
Bromby, (best player this season so far)
Morgan (solid mid Championschip player)
Jags (potential and mistake ridden)
Harley (great going forward. Not so great defensively-done little)
Tonge (potential which he has never realised and not improving)
Quinn (quality but temperomental)
Thirlwel (not proved himself but a decent player)
Liddell (decent championship winger)
Gray (quality championship mid-table striker)
Cadamarteri (failure at all clubs)

we have 0 players who are premiership class at the moment. Kenny and Jags have potential but are having poorer seasons and Jags at least has become a liability)


what do you base this on then??

the games you have seen on tv? or reports you read in paper?

robbie
01-12-2004, 16:37
I have been regularly until this season. I listen to commentaires and watch when on tv. I have also seen the players play before joining us......

you seem to think our players are premiership quality and I think you are barking....

Robbie Loving
01-12-2004, 18:08
Originally posted by robbie
I have been regularly until this season. I listen to commentaires and watch when on tv. I have also seen the players play before joining us......

you seem to think our players are premiership quality and I think you are barking....

Who is to state whether they are or not, as most have not played there!!

Harley is definately prem quality
kenny, gray, liddell, morgan, bromby, quinn and tonge could all hack it in prem i reckon too!!

Jonny_G
01-12-2004, 21:42
Just to chuck in my two-penneth .....

Would have to say that Tongue hasn't done much since start of last season. He'sa bit better this season and the team definately play better when he's in the 11, but seems to have lot the bottle to run at players like he used to.

Can't really be sure about Liddle either. Seems to have caught same disease as Ndlovu and rarely has it in him to beat his man. Thing is that when he does take it on and cross it the end product is usually good.

Would have to agree that Bromby has been Mr Reliable this year and looks to be a good signing. The fact Jag's seems to be jsut treading water is a bit of a worry though.

Quinn and Thirwell give the centre of midfield some balance and if we could just have the wide men playing wide and not tucking in then I'm sure we'd make more chances.

Really have been a fan of Danny and Shaw as a pairing up front. Can be no fluke that we're playing better football since Shaw came back into the squad. Less of the long ball throughout the game since he got his place back, which is no bad thing.

duffman
02-12-2004, 20:46
Kozluk and francis comebacks:

Both players are getting closer to comebacks for the blades. They both have completed full reserve games without reaction to thier injuries. This is great news for the Blades as we don't have to rush them back in the squad because although we have conceded a few goals lately we have a compitent back four that can manage. I can see a bit of a selection headache for Warnock when they are all fit (including Chris Armstrong) but then it can only be good for us.

Now we just need Kabba (but not Ward) to comeback!

Robbie Loving
03-12-2004, 09:09
apparently kozzy scored a cracking own goal in reserves:hihi:

duffman
03-12-2004, 10:40
At least it gives us another scoring option, now Warnock can put him up front:hihi:

Robbie Loving
03-12-2004, 10:48
Originally posted by duffman
At least it gives us another scoring option, now Warnock can put him up front:hihi:

remember kozzy scoring his first goal for us,
he just was clueless and dint know what to do, so just ran to corner with hand in air LOL!!

top lad!!
incidentaly he was born in same hospital as me!!

still think we should get rid of him!

duffman
03-12-2004, 11:17
It's not like we need his long throws anymore with Bromby's bombs that go flying accross.

duffman
03-12-2004, 19:42
Blades shares snaped up:

8.5m shares have been bought up by chinese businessman Dequing Zhang Story here (http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~596801,00.html)

Robbie Loving
04-12-2004, 15:11
kenny off for violent conduct GRRRRRRRRRRR

so think it will be jags in net now


last time this hapened we actualy won

A.B.Yaffle
04-12-2004, 17:15
Well we won again! I'm not sure that a 3 match ban for Kenny will necesarily be too bad for the Blades. At least Kenny will have plenty of free time to do his Christmas shopping.

Robbie Loving
05-12-2004, 01:31
Originally posted by Patchy
Well we won again! I'm not sure that a 3 match ban for Kenny will necesarily be too bad for the Blades. At least Kenny will have plenty of free time to do his Christmas shopping.

i really can not believe we won,

i can forsee kenny getting a big fine for this, as he should not be losing his temper, especially when he knows there is no other keeper on bench!!

although that does depend on a few things, warnock is actually sticking up for him, and stating he did not deserve to be sent off!!

tosh13
05-12-2004, 10:48
I have just read in the Sunday Mirror that Kenny had a large bump on the head,Warnock said Kenny had told him he had been headbutted & he knows who it is,Warnock had a video camereman with the team but he said it was really dark in the tunnel so they will check the tape.Keith Edwards said on radio that Kenny is not the type of player to fly off the handle.I think if it had been me being headbutted I am sorry but I would not just stand there & let the Millwall player get away with that sort of thing.If the cameraman got it on VT then the Millwall player wants banning & I would have him done for assualt.What a buy £25.000 for Geary.UP THE BLADES

Robbie Loving
05-12-2004, 11:04
Originally posted by tosh13
What a buy £25.000 for Geary.UP THE BLADES

it was 50k wasn't it??
and finally a blade that recognises geary is worth some money!!
always said he was a top player

saxon51
05-12-2004, 11:12
It's good that the Blades have two acadamies, one at Shirecliffe..... and one at Hillsborough!

When do we get John Paul McGovern then?:heyhey:

Robbie Loving
05-12-2004, 11:16
Originally posted by markham

When do we get John Paul McGovern then?:heyhey:

they boy who was not good enough for the blades??

saxon51
05-12-2004, 11:27
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
they boy who was not good enough for the blades??

It's just that every Wednesday supporter I've spoken to reckons he's their best player, so it's logical that we don't let them keep him.

Robbie Loving
05-12-2004, 11:29
Originally posted by markham
It's just that every Wednesday supporter I've spoken to reckons he's their best player, so it's logical that we don't let them keep him.

he did wel when he was on loan with us!!

think he only ever scored one goal for us though!!

good signing for weds really

robbie
05-12-2004, 15:28
Originally posted by markham
It's just that every Wednesday supporter I've spoken to reckons he's their best player, so it's logical that we don't let them keep him.

he started well then tailed off for us

he's a bit on the slow side if my memory serves me correctly

saxon51
05-12-2004, 15:31
Blades v Aston Villa (FAC rd 3)

Let's hope Warnock and the team remember that promotion should take priority over any cup!

I'm thinking injuries and suspensions here.

duffman
05-12-2004, 18:43
Mmmm good cup tie, I would like a good run in the Fa Cup. Come on you Blades!

JamesRich
06-12-2004, 08:54
What date is the next round of the cup?

SuPeRbLaDe
06-12-2004, 10:18
8th of january i think, maybe wrong!

duffman
06-12-2004, 10:19
The fixtures are due on the weekend of the 8th & 9th of January.

duffman
09-12-2004, 18:58
Ian Bennett:

The blades have signed Birmingham Keeper Ian Bennett on loan for a month, starting with Saturdays game against Rotherham to cover for suspended Kenny.

I thought that he may have tried Phil Barnes in goal for a game, but with this signing will Warnock put Barnes on as a sub or yet again leave him out the squad?

saxon51
09-12-2004, 19:12
No one knows how Warnock's brain works, so its anybody's guess! I wish he would put a keeper on the bench. No more nail-biters with Jags in goal and the defence running round like headless chickens........please! [even if we do usually win in those circumstances]:clap:

robbie
09-12-2004, 19:25
Originally posted by duffman
Ian Bennett:

The blades have signed Birmingham Keeper Ian Bennett on loan for a month, starting with Saturdays game against Rotherham to cover for suspended Kenny.

I thought that he may have tried Phil Barnes in goal for a game, but with this signing will Warnock put Barnes on as a sub or yet again leave him out the squad?

Barnes is clearly not good enough (as he never gets a chance or even on the bench) so why have him in the squad?

Bennett is a good signing. Arguably better than Kenny on his lack of form this season.

duffman
10-12-2004, 18:47
Originally posted by robbie
Barnes is clearly not good enough (as he never gets a chance or even on the bench) so why have him in the squad?

Bennett is a good signing. Arguably better than Kenny on his lack of form this season.

But how do we really know if Barnes is no good? Kenny has not been in sparkling form but Warnock is someone who will only change the keeper if injury or suspension kicks in. He never puts a substitute keeper on the bench even when we have to bring in a loan one.

Have you been to the reserve games this season to watch him play? Warnock has said he will make it to the first team and Rotherham may have been a good game to give him a go.

duffman
10-12-2004, 20:04
Warnock banned from touchline

Neil Warnock has been banned from the touchline against Rotherham. He was chardged with the alledged comments made to referee Mark Clattenburgh during the defeat to Watford in the Carling cup.

Looks like Macca will be taking over for the game although i'm sure Warnock will have set in his tactics before they go so he wont really be running the show.

Story here (http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~600490,00.html)

robbie
11-12-2004, 19:29
sack Warnock now please...when in front defend...put poor players on and sit back...practice defending from set pieces........

well done Ian Bennett though

A.B.Yaffle
11-12-2004, 20:40
Yes lets sack Warnock now...even though we are in the play-off places. Lets bring in McCall so he can send us down to the bottom of the division. Why did he take off Quinn and replace him with Wright?

Do you really want to sack Warnock and go down the road Nottingham Forest have gone down? :loopy:

Billy_Bass
12-12-2004, 00:43
Originally posted by robbie
sack Warnock now please...

if only we had more fans like you, then perhaps we could be where wednesday are

SuPeRbLaDe
12-12-2004, 10:59
well said billy, whats the point in sacking warnock now? were 6th in the championship half way through the season, who could do any better on uniteds budget anyway? we'd only end up going down like wednesday!

brilliant crowd at toytown last nice, great to see us getting behind them for a change!

duffman
12-12-2004, 20:41
Didn't see the game (had to give it up for a friend) but I saw the goals. Direct football from Rotherham for the first, we seemed to stand still for the second and Bennett was unlucky not to get a hand on it to put it over. What was the disallowed goal for? I heard Warnock voice his opinion on the Lino and Ref but not heard why it wasn't let in.

Who would we replace Warnock with anyway if we sacked him? Would Micky Adams really come to the Lane? Mcall is not ready and there are no managers with the credentials we need without paying through the nose for it.

Billy_Bass
12-12-2004, 23:50
Originally posted by duffman
What was the disallowed goal for?

Andy Gray was "offside" but he was not interfering with play, so should not have been ruled!

Originally posted by duffman
Who would we replace Warnock with anyway if we sacked him? Would Micky Adams really come to the Lane? Mcall is not ready and there are no managers with the credentials we need without paying through the nose for it.

Why would we want Micky Adams?
His record in the prem is atrocious to say the least, and his record in div 1 this time around with supposedly a "beter" bunch of players than sheffield united is not all that good either!
He was lucky last time that he was able to keep hold of players when they went in to administration!

Ousetunes
13-12-2004, 10:32
Watched the game in The Hadfield and although I'm disappointed with the soft goals we conceded, it's still worth remembering we're on a good run (lost one in eleven, is it?) and despite where Rotherham are in the league, it was a derby match.

Frankly, having seen Rotherham a couple of times on TV (versus Sunderland and Leeds) I did think they were the worst side in the division (albeit, having seen them just these two times, so I'm prepared to be corrected).

But in the second half they played well and deserved the draw. Yes, United were unlucky with the off-side 'goal' which would have wrapped up the game, but that's football. Infact, Halsey the ref had a very good game.

Maybe I'm mellowing as I'm getting older, but it was a good match played in the right spirit. Ronnie Moore has been fantastic for the Millers and I for one would be sad to see them relegated.

And those calling for Warnock's head: Take a look around you.

Agent Gypo
13-12-2004, 10:47
I'd hate to see Warnock go, he's done so much with so little. I think many united fans expect too much, after all, we don't really have any money and Warnock has a proven record with limited resources.

We're still in a postion where promotion is something we can realistically challenge for, so I can't understand where this talk of replacing Warnock is coming from.

duffman
13-12-2004, 18:59
Originally posted by Billy_Bass
Andy Gray was "offside" but he was not interfering with play, so should not have been ruled!

D'oheth! I read the Star and the ref said he was in no position to see if Gray was interfering so he went with the lino (fair enough)


Why would we want Micky Adams?

I don't think he can do any better than Warnock with the budgets given, but for some strange reason that is who most people I speak to would want to replace Warnock.

A.B.Yaffle
13-12-2004, 22:14
I think the reason some people want to get Adams in is that he is a Blades fan. I still don't know why people assume he is going to do a better job than Warnock. For the last few years we have done very well and finished around the play off places on a very low budget, so why sack the manager and bring in someone else?

A change in manager is not going to bring in more funds to buy premiership players. Thats the mistake the Owls keep making... an average of one manager sacked per season. It hasn't taken them back up to the Premiership... and it didn't keep them in the Championship (Div One) either.

Ronin
14-12-2004, 22:12
Why won't he play Beckett? Is he injured?
The match at Millmoor was made for him.
The front two for Rotherham looked far sharper than Shaw & Gray and i'm afraid young Danny just doesn't look the goal scoring type.

A.B.Yaffle
14-12-2004, 22:19
I agree we need a regular goal scorer, and the main strikers aren't doing that. We have done well to be in the top 6 halfway through the season though.. and it is good that players who aren't "strikers" are scoring too. No team should rely on one really good striker too much, or things will go pear-shaped when he gets injured. I would like to see us buy a quality striker in addition to what we already have though!

We have done well to sell Jack Lester back to Notts Forest, he is apparently out for the rest of the season after getting another injury.

duffman
16-12-2004, 21:18
Originally posted by Ronin
Why won't he play Beckett? Is he injured?
The match at Millmoor was made for him.
The front two for Rotherham looked far sharper than Shaw & Gray and i'm afraid young Danny just doesn't look the goal scoring type.

Beckett was given time off as his wife was having their first kid I believe, so he should be starting after the new year.

carcrash
17-12-2004, 01:23
Did wednesday offer stockport a million for becket a few years ago ? I think they did but a mate says they didn't.
Help please.

A.B.Yaffle
17-12-2004, 01:33
Originally posted by carcrash
Did wednesday offer stockport a million for becket a few years ago ? I think they did but a mate says they didn't.
Help please.

The Owls did try to sign him, but I'm not sure how much they offered. However much it was, they were refused. :D

Billy_Bass
17-12-2004, 07:03
Originally posted by carcrash
Did wednesday offer stockport a million for becket a few years ago ? I think they did but a mate says they didn't.
Help please.

i believe it was 500k

carcrash
17-12-2004, 13:17
It looks like I'm owed a pint of turbo shandy.
thanks

robbie
18-12-2004, 14:37
Should Jags play in midfield from now on?

He has been making sloppy errors quite often at centre back and if my memory serves me correctly we only started playing him there after he was picked there in U21's.

He was doing well at fullback before then.

duffman
18-12-2004, 15:21
I think Jags should be in midfield as Cullip looks a good signing, he had a good debut today looked solid especially in the air.

I couldn't figure out why Geary was allowed to play on the right of midfield, Warnock must be scratching his head where to play everyone now, but he made a good change bringing on Liddel and Cad's at half time they made a difference for sure.
Hopefully Cullips arrival will sharpen up the defence now they know they will have some serious competition.

Atmosphere was a bit crap, I was sat in the family stand and it was quiet as.... I was sat behind Emanuelle Gabrielli, he really wants to play but says he just can't make it in the team.

Billy_Bass
19-12-2004, 10:17
yesterdays game was laughable in first half!

we was outplayed in first half and they deserved the lead.
how can we start a game with 6 defenders?
playing a a back 5, and another defender in midfield!!

it just did not seem to make sense when we had liddle on bench who is doing extremely well of late!!

second half was a lot better, i was sat with my head in my hands when it was said gray had come on at half time, but i was cheering when i realised they must have made a mistake as shaw was missing!!

but even though cads was lively when he came on i think he shud stick more to the middle than going down the left all the time, as we are therefore left with one striker in middle!!

and tonge....... GRRRRRR so much potential, if only he did not watch ball all time

duffman
19-12-2004, 11:54
I also cringed when they Gary sinclair (who was off form with a sore throat) said Gray had come off but it took me 5 minutes to realise there was no gleaming bald head of Shaw running about. Tonge was unsure with the ball around the penalty area until he took the shot that hit the bar, then he started to run more. I can't figure out why it needs this to get the player going, they know they have the ability to run through defences.

I just hope Warnock can be man enough to drop someone like Jags or Morgan to keep them on their toes and not put one of them in midfield, we have players in that position who do not need moving about or bein benched.

scottf
20-12-2004, 09:19
What the **** is warnock doing?? We started the game with 4 central defenders on the pitch against a very very poor team? why?? we should have gone out there to attack them from the start!!!!

The whole point of bringing cullip in is to shore up the defence- that done- why bother playing jags in a position he is clearly not used to and make him run around like a headless chicken for 45minutes, you either drop him or put him in midfield!!!

And Poor liddel must wonder what he has done wrong, no discredit to geary cos he is a battler and a top tackler but liddel gives us that extra edge- good crosses, running at players, links well with bromby and cadimartri- he must start every game!!!

And how anyone can drop cadimartari is beyond me- we looked a differant team in the second half because of him- he was linking up the play between midfield and attack - laying the ball off for tongue on the right (who should stick to playing on the right as it is clear that he lacks the vision to be a central midfielder) and all in all putting himself about and working for the ball with great sucess!!!

I was ready to leave at half time unless warnock changed it, am glad he did- surely he must see that we should stick to an attacking 4-4-2 formation (unless we are playing a very good team) and most of all - keep cadimateri and liddlel in the team.

duffman
26-12-2004, 16:48
Blades v Coventry

A win for the Blades at Coventry coming from a goal down too. Stern John scoring in the first 20 mins after having a (very, very dodgy) penalty saved by Ian Bennett (I think we should try to sign him)
but two goals before half time put us ahed Morgan and Gray scoring.

Sounded a good game, I couldn't make it down but listened to it on the radio. Results went our way except for Reading winning and what a win for Rotherham!

Next up the foxes, C'mon you Blades!

duffman
28-12-2004, 17:53
The best performance for a while at home and a deserved win. We looked good from the start and should have been two up before half time but their keeper made some great saves, again the sending off made the difference and we didn't look back. The goals themselves were great and very well taken and I still think Cad's desrves a goal and he was so close too.

sheffieldfox
29-12-2004, 09:58
Yeh from a Leicester fan, I have to give credit to you lot. I was never impressed when I came to see you play last season but you really surprised me yesterday. Its bound to help when you are playing a team as poor as ours, we are one of the worst in the Championship but the goals were taken very well and it looks like a very capable side has been built up there. Good luck for the rest of the season.

Robbie Loving
29-12-2004, 16:47
Originally posted by sheffieldfox
Yeh from a Leicester fan, I have to give credit to you lot. I was never impressed when I came to see you play last season but you really surprised me yesterday. Its bound to help when you are playing a team as poor as ours, we are one of the worst in the Championship but the goals were taken very well and it looks like a very capable side has been built up there. Good luck for the rest of the season.

when you came last time (2 seasons since) you played long ball, and really made the game really drawn out, thankfully we won that one too!

yesterdays passing was great, and great result

i think leicester should be where we are anyways, you have some great players, dublin conolly scowcroft gillespie heath morris

mind you, i dont think morris expected the reception he got, but he fully deserved it!!

all in all, great performance

BRING ON WIGAN

duffman
29-12-2004, 20:26
Yes bring on Wigan!

They (Wigan) have lost their last three and speculation of their strikers going in January looks like it has upset them. However, we don't want a backlash and loose by 4 goals like at Wigan.

I do believe we can sneak into the top 3 at least before the end of the season. We have played really bad and had our dip when we conceded 10 in 3 matches earlier on in the season, then we played bad but got some decent results in, now we are playing the best football and hopefully it can lift us even higher than 5th.

tosh13
01-01-2005, 18:20
Well lost again to Wigan 6-0 in 2 matches not good enough,we have lost to most of the top 5,what chance have we of automatic promotion or even the playoffs if we cannot beat the other teams above us,Warnock need,s a couple of good strong midfield hardmen & a good striker if there are any out there to be found.Our midfield is lightweight & the strikers cannot score against quality teams.We would get slaughtered in the Premiere League.Let's hope we can do better on Monday against West Ham who have beaten Ipswich 2-0,fingers X for that match.UP THE BLADES

Robbie Loving
02-01-2005, 00:47
Originally posted by tosh13
Well lost again to Wigan 6-0 in 2 matches not good enough,we have lost to most of the top 5,what chance have we of automatic promotion or even the playoffs if we cannot beat the other teams above us,Warnock need,s a couple of good strong midfield hardmen & a good striker if there are any out there to be found.Our midfield is lightweight & the strikers cannot score against quality teams.We would get slaughtered in the Premiere League.Let's hope we can do better on Monday against West Ham who have beaten Ipswich 2-0,fingers X for that match.UP THE BLADES

well lets see who we can buy with all our little money.....

its all very wel stating what we need, but how we get this is a tottally different matter,

yes we was second best today, and i really just dont know what happened, every ball seemedd to go to the opposition, and i dont think wigan was that good, more that we was ust that poor, which annoys me after sucha good performance against leicester

oh well..... bring on west ham

Agent Gypo
02-01-2005, 11:37
Despite our recent run of decent performances, I still don't think we'll be promoted. The defeat against Wigan shows we don't have that cutting edge, Villa will embarass us if we play like that.

If you look at the teams around us, they all have a decent set of strikers who score on a regular basis. We don't seem to have a 'first choice' strike partnership.

Warnock, please please please get rid of Ward and Shaw.

I know we can't afford to buy a decent striker, but there are plenty of premiership sides who have both promising and more experienced players gagging for action. Surely it would make more sense to secure one on loan, get rid of all the stop-gap players, and try and forge a consistent partnership up front.

duffman
02-01-2005, 16:13
Originally posted by Agent Gypo
Villa will embarass us if we play like that.

Forget that it's West Ham i'm botherd about giving us a whooping if we play like that. I was hoping all the floodlights would have gone off and the game getting abandoned. We could not hold the ball or pass it to a red and white shirt. Corners seem to be a problem of late, we could not take a corner to save our lives and defending them was awful.

tosh13
03-01-2005, 09:31
Well look at Leeds they are millions in debt but still go out & pay £750,000 for Healy.Wigan have a chairman who will back the club with money so they stand a good chance of promotion with a £15 million bounty.Wigan get on average 10,500 fans at home games & that includes the away fans,Utd get 20.000 + so where is all the money going,it has always been the same for as long as I can remember sell our best players & bring mediocre players in.If the Utd board want promotion then the only way is give the manager some money.Speculate to Acumulate.The transfer market is better now players are being sold at rock bottom prices.If the rumours are correct Utd are looking at John Stead at Blackburn,he had a cracking first season but he is struggling at the moment,I reckon Utd should put in a bid for him,if we cannot at least afford £1 milion for a decent player to get in the Premiereship then we are only going to be a average Championship side settled on staying in there because the Board are frightened to death of going up.UP THE BLADES.

duffman
03-01-2005, 10:27
I agree Tosh, the excuse is the season of '98 when we spent some money and missed out on the playoffs to the ginger, toothless, scotsman Hopkins fluke goal (i'm not bitter still:mad: )

Ever since then we have been reluctant to spend big when needed but still we can manage to sell good players off.

tosh13
03-01-2005, 16:16
Too true D.What a good win at West Ham,although they were poor,Utd played the same formation which beat Derby,so why didn't we play the same formation against Wigan to nullify there strike threat,Morgan & Cullip were outstanding,so were the midfield & Geary is becoming a decent player.Well Villa on Saturday & they have just lost to Palace,so we may have a good chance if we play as good as today.But we are at home I feel some of the players get nervous,but we have a great away record.So I am being positive we will beat Villa 2-1.UP THE BLADES

tosh13
03-01-2005, 16:23
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
well lets see who we can buy with all our little money.....

its all very wel stating what we need, but how we get this is a tottally different matter,

yes we was second best today, and i really just dont know what happened, every ball seemedd to go to the opposition, and i dont think wigan was that good, more that we was ust that poor, which annoys me after sucha good performance against leicester

oh well..... bring on west ham Tell me why a team like West Ham can go to Ipswich & beat them & Utd cannot get a draw against Wigan,but then we can go & beat West Ham.Utd have always had the same mentallity of where is the money coming from,we are better off than most teams in the division.But even the lower teams scrape the money they need to get a better player.Football is a business & just keeping your head above water is no good for that business, you have to have the guts to spend that money & if promotion happens then £15 million is worth taking that risk for.

duffman
03-01-2005, 18:02
A friend of mine has just sent a txt saying I should be gutted because ex owls are playing well for us. Like a give a :suspect: where they come from! I would be more p***ed as an owl that it's happening.


They're Red, They're White (even though there's no white lettering) They played for the :heyhey:

Well done lads, bring on the Villa Saturday:clap:

tosh13
03-01-2005, 18:20
Well D it would take a owls fan to think with that logic,how stupid some are,if the ex owls players were crap I could understand his sense,but there loss our gain,the are reds now so who cares UP THE BLADES

SuPeRbLaDe
03-01-2005, 18:38
technically duffman we didnt even but them from the sh*te they were given to us!!! thats the added bonus to it all!!!!

SuPeRbLaDe
03-01-2005, 18:40
sorry that shud have been we didnt even buy them!!!

duffman
03-01-2005, 18:49
Ok Superblade, there's an edit button fot that incase that happens again ;)

But yeah I forgot we didn't buy them, and Geary did come from Stockport anyway. So should we feel pi**ed that John-Paul Mcgovern is doing well for them? I think not ;)

Robbie Loving
03-01-2005, 20:42
Originally posted by tosh13
Too true D.What a good win at West Ham,although they were poor,Utd played the same formation which beat Derby,so why didn't we play the same formation against Wigan to nullify there strike threat,

ok lets have a look at this.......

warnock starts with 5 defenders against wigan and only one up front? i can just see the scenario now.......

there would be abuse hurled at him an you know it

now im not saying it would be a bad formation to play against such teams as wigan, but sadly its the people who like to be heard that really are the negative ones!!

as for spending a million on jon stead, are you trying to make me laugh? you want to spend a million on a player who has not yet even scored in the prem this season?? tosh i know you love the team, but some of the coments you have are quite laughable, yes we may get a lot more revenue that a lot of teams in this league, but that is no reason to go out and buy players nilly willy,

you mention leeds getting healy for 750k, ok ok ok, god signing for them, a player i would like to see down at the lane......
but what you have to remember, regardless of the debt leeds are in, they earn a lot more through ticket sales/shirts etc, not forgetting they are still getting large parachute payments from the premiership too, they also raised massive funds from player sales, yes i know this goes towards the debt, but from all the players they sold, they can afford to splash on a few players!!

and i dont think we are any longer a "selling" club as such, yes we sold brown, but that was rather than lose him for nothing in the sumer, and i know you will come back with the simple "what if we had gone up he would have stayed" well sadly...... we did not look like we would be going up, and who is to say he would have ACTUALY stayed with us if we had got promotion, in my honest opinion, it was a good decision to sell due to the fact that he was not performing to the standards us blades (and now spurs) know what he could actually.

but yeah, great result today, and shows why we have the best away record in the league (lets forget the ipswich/wigan away games lol)

Agent Gypo
04-01-2005, 09:34
Great result! Keep proving me wrong and hopefully I'll be a happy happy man at the end of the season!

scottf
04-01-2005, 10:16
what a great result for us, a quality performance all round from what i heard, good to see kenny keep a clean sheet altho to be perfectly honest i would prefer to have kept bennet in goal for us, kenny just doesn't look the same keeper as he did a couple of years ago!

Bring on villa on saturday though- they are on a bad run and our confidence must be sky high after yesterdays result!!!

tosh13
04-01-2005, 11:03
I did not say that we should spend £1 mill on Stead,But Souness payed £1.2 mill for him & I think he is a good judge of character regarding decent players.Utd have always sold there best players,look through the history over the last 40 years & that's what we have been a selling club.The board should back Warnock as I see him as a very good manager in the Bassett mold.We should have played the same formation against Wigan regardless of the fans ,he is the manager after all.

Robbie Loving
04-01-2005, 16:47
Originally posted by tosh13
I did not say that we should spend £1 mill on Stead,But Souness payed £1.2 mill for him & I think he is a good judge of character regarding decent players.Utd have always sold there best players,look through the history over the last 40 years & that's what we have been a selling club.The board should back Warnock as I see him as a very good manager in the Bassett mold.We should have played the same formation against Wigan regardless of the fans ,he is the manager after all.

im not saying we dint used to be a selling club, but when was the last time we was pressureised to sel somebody for money to pay off debts??

Agent Gypo
05-01-2005, 09:33
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
im not saying we dint used to be a selling club, but when was the last time we was pressureised to sel somebody for money to pay off debts??

You've just jinxed us mate.

I can see it now; 'Promising Sheffield United midfielder Michael Tonge sold to Wigan for £500k'. "The lad was going a bit stale" manager Neil Warnock told BBC Radio Sheffield, "and £500k seemed a great price considering he was valued at £5million 2 years ago".

Seriously though, I'm surprised there hasn't been much interest in Tonge, Kenny and Jagielka.

scottf
05-01-2005, 09:47
Tonge signed a new contract not that long ago- it would cost a fair bit to buy him out of it,

kenny is still very raw and is prone to the odd mistake (as we have seen this season) but im convinced he is going to be a
great keeper!!

As for jags- since warnock put him back into midfield he has been playing out of his skin- could this be the influential midfielder we have been crying out for?

duffman
05-01-2005, 18:04
If we were going to sell Tonge and Jags that would have already happend when they were regulars for England u19&20's as there would have been demand for up and coming players, now they are established with the Blades no one wants them, or at least that's what i hope.

Agent Gypo
06-01-2005, 09:53
I have to stop reading the wednesday forum. Every time I go in I get drawn into the "we were brilliant 10 years ago" debate.



Predictions for Blades v Villa if you please. If we perfom like we did at West Ham I'll say Blades 2 Villa 0.

carcrash
06-01-2005, 11:26
I wouldn't be to bothered if we get knocked out of the cup quite early on

scottf
06-01-2005, 11:30
Originally posted by carcrash
I wouldn't be to bothered if we get knocked out of the cup quite early on

are you daft?? I know its draining on the team but we do have a large squad and the money that it brings into the club is needed- especially if we do go up!!!!

scottf
06-01-2005, 11:51
Well thats us ****ed for saturday- warnock has just won manager of the month!!!!

kirky
06-01-2005, 13:51
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Well thats us ****ed for saturday- warnock has just won manager of the month!!!!

oh dear....................

duffman
06-01-2005, 15:51
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Well thats us ****ed for saturday- warnock has just won manager of the month!!!!

Oh well if it means we don't loose the Brighton match in the league I will take getting knocked out of the FA cup. However Sturrock broke the curse at Wendy so maybe Warnock can do it hopefully, my prediction Blades 2-0 Villa.

Sneaking out of work early for this one so it's a rush down for a quick pint before:thumbsup:

SuPeRbLaDe
06-01-2005, 17:25
what do you all think of Kozzy going out on a month long loan to preston? i think it will be good for him personally, i just hope we dont lose him, hes a great player, i think hes a great lift to the squad even when hes not playing. hes a great personality and something we will miss!!!

as for manager of the month........thats us losing the villa game!!!

lets break the curse and get on a cup run!!!

UP THE BLADES!!!!!!

duffman
06-01-2005, 20:12
Kozzy is part of the Warnock safe list (along with Ward) I don't think he would sell him at any time. However the players that have replaced him during his injury would feel extremely hard done by to be put out of the team by him especially in their form.

I think it will benefit the team when he is fully fit and has games under his belt along with Francis too as they can break into the first team anytime so competition for places will be strong.

We may see another restructure of positions by Warnock to see if players are adaptable like Jags who has played in nearly every position this year.

Robbie Loving
06-01-2005, 23:02
Originally posted by duffman
O However Sturrock broke the curse at Wendy so maybe Warnock can do it hopefully, my prediction Blades 2-0 Villa.


are you sure about that?? im sure that he lost the 2 games after getting manager of the month, but i maybe wrong!!

as for villa........ well they have won once away from home this season, and also won once in there last 8 games which was against a lowly blackburn

A.B.Yaffle
07-01-2005, 01:05
Originally posted by Scottandandy
Well thats us ****ed for saturday- warnock has just won manager of the month!!!!

As Warnock has pointed out, we have already suffered our defeat under the curse of manager of the month. The award was for the month of December, and we went on to lose to Wigan in our first game of January. So we should be safe now! :thumbsup:

duffman
07-01-2005, 15:27
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
are you sure about that?? im sure that he lost the 2 games after getting manager of the month, but i maybe wrong!!

as for villa........ well they have won once away from home this season, and also won once in there last 8 games which was against a lowly blackburn

Maybe I am wrong but they have done better since he won it. As patchy posted Warnock pointed out the award was for December and we lost on the first day of january so we have obliged to the curse, so bring on the Villa!

Robbie Loving
07-01-2005, 16:52
Originally posted by duffman
Maybe I am wrong but they have done better since he won it. As patchy posted Warnock pointed out the award was for December and we lost on the first day of january so we have obliged to the curse, so bring on the Villa!

it was obvious who was gonna get manager of month for all 3 leagues last month,

johnson has done brilliantly at yeovil,
taylor at hull with 6 maginificent wins, scoring 4 in 2 games and SIX against tranmere!!

and of course warnock, who guided us to 4 wins and a draw, the only team who matches them states for the month was MILLWALL
who won 4 and drew 1 but they also lost one, ironically against us, had we lost or drawn that game, then i think it would have gone to wise!!!

kozluk on loan too..... remember last time we farmed him out, he was useless for us and went to hudds, cameback a better player and he has not looked back since, hopefully he can help preston out..... he will be cup tied though as he is allowed to play this sat, sadly though preston dont have any of the teams above us till 19t feb when he willbe back for us!!

now lets get francis down to Coventry and he can help them beat both ipswich and QPR :heyhey:

Scutts
07-01-2005, 17:29
I've livedin Sheffield for 10 years and "adopted" Sheffield United as my local team.
I've been to quite a few games and my fiancee goes to every home game.
Now the tricky bit, I was born in Birmingham and am Villa thru and thru.......Couldn't get a ticket with the Villa fans so I am going to be sitting next to my fiancee in the Kop! I shall cover myself in Blades stuff and sit on my hands to make sure I get out alive
:)

duffman
07-01-2005, 18:26
Don't worry, I have sat on the Wendy Kop when the blades have been there and there were a few tight moments but i survived.

I'm expecting a good open game from the Blades as there is no pressure on us to win and we do seem to do well on TV at times.

trophyman
07-01-2005, 19:05
im an owls fan and may i wish the blades good luck against villa??.

hope you stuff them