If you could make one Sheffield estate disappear... [Archive]

smedley

23-10-2004, 13:04

Originally posted by wasp
I've an idea that would get rid of most of Sheffield's undesirables (from all estates) in one go. Remove all of the town centre except for Fargate to Devonshire Green on the busiest shopping day.

I know what you mean... If you're ever in the unfortunate position of walking past the bottom of Fargate, people start to smell and look like they belong in (a) a circus, or (b) an acid-soaked episode of Little Britain.

Walking further down, towards Castle Market, gets scarier still. I'd be scared to go any further for fear of encoutering pond-scum or Neanderthals.

The same goes for walking down the Moor. Remember that happy-go-lucky phrase the council tagged on it... "The Moor the merrier"? Surely that should've been "Moor retards and nicotine-stained, wrinkly, gyppos than anywhere else in Sheffield".

Just a suggestion.

Good to see that they're all welcomed at the new peace gardens with open arms though.

Raychul69

23-10-2004, 13:07

I am more than suprised to see no one has suggested getting rid of Lowedges...... Oh well give it time........

Plese please please someone become god and get rid of it but wait for me to be at work first!!!!!!

wasp

23-10-2004, 13:12

Would you be allowed to "take out" Low Edges, Batemoor & Jordanthorpe at the same time. It wouldn't be too much trouble since they are all next to each other.

kirky

23-10-2004, 13:15

Originally posted by alexdave67
I'd make Woodthorpe disappear...
Full of Thieves & dogs!

that would put 2 of my lads out of work...:(

maxwell

23-10-2004, 15:28

In the course of my past employment I had the privlidge of working on every estate or area of Sheffield and I can tell you that every 'council' estate has gone down the pan in the last 15 years,whereas the Fulwoods and Ranmoors of this city have all remained desirable places to live.It's interesting to note that all the areas that have millions of pounds pumped into them are no further on as regards people wanting to live in them.This is repeated all over the country and there seems to be no answer to the problem.

NEILS

23-10-2004, 15:41

worked in the following areas for the past two years.
page hall
firth park
burngreave
pitsmore
would anyone miss these,

alexdave67

23-10-2004, 15:49

Originally posted by kirky
that would put 2 of my lads out of work...:(

Burglary?

mr.blaze

23-10-2004, 16:51

I'd Nuke Broomhill estate or no estate, it's full of students. Down with them.

ThePiglit

23-10-2004, 16:53

"Hell is the suburbs"

Also why is everyone moaning about money thrown at Pitsmoor/burngreave.

I live in S5 - you can't move for tippers depositing "regeneration money" in the laps of various community scams, sorry, organistations.
I'm still looking for a decent job. Hey don't laugh.

coggy

23-10-2004, 16:55

Originally posted by NEILS
worked in the following areas for the past two years.
page hall
firth park
burngreave
pitsmore
would anyone miss these,

Yep me because i live there :D

Rich

23-10-2004, 17:10

Originally posted by J-Blaze
I'd Nuke Broomhill estate or no estate, it's full of students. Down with them.

Shut up.

Students rule, you can't tar them all with the chav brush just cos a couple of them show chav-like behaviour.

Sony

23-10-2004, 17:11

Originally posted by maxwell
In the course of my past employment I had the privlidge of working on every estate or area of Sheffield and I can tell you that every 'council' estate has gone down the pan in the last 15 years,whereas the Fulwoods and Ranmoors of this city have all remained desirable places to live.It's interesting to note that all the areas that have millions of pounds pumped into them are no further on as regards people wanting to live in them.This is repeated all over the country and there seems to be no answer to the problem.

Spot on

smedley

23-10-2004, 17:16

Originally posted by Rich
Shut up.

Students rule, you can't tar them all with the chav brush just cos a couple of them show chav-like behaviour.

I don't know. Back when I was at college, everyone was trying to look like Robert Smith, and drank in dives like the Hallamshire.

These days students all seem to be driving chav cars (old VW golfs, clios, etc) decked out in chav clothing (lacoste, ted baker, ****, etc), sport chav haircuts (ironic mullets, etc), and knock off chavvy student lasses (jenny-from-the-block-of-flats-tracksuits), lsitening to commercial crap like Busted, and drinking bottles on expensive lager instead of filling the back of a Triumph Dolomite with 18 crates of Baltic Lager from the Makro.

Students are getting far too 'townie'... They'll be growing pencil 'taches and drinking in the stone House next.

Internetowl

23-10-2004, 17:28

As someone posted earlier - problem with re-generation money is that it gets eaten up in admin charges - people from outside the area being re-generated come in , waste the money and then move on to the next area - ripe for plucking.

Someone suggested its all a big scam - they could be right!

Tazz070299

23-10-2004, 17:33

I'm surprised there's any debate on this one. The suburb of Sheffield worth making disappear has to be ROTHERHAM.

Or, more seriously, The Manor. The only good thing about the manor estate is that it makes all the others you have suggested look good.

regards

Mark

Phanerothyme

23-10-2004, 17:47

I'd make the fitzwilliam/wentworth estate disappear, and open it up a little more to the public.

WallBuilder

23-10-2004, 19:14

I was thinking, most of the estates mentioned do have their problems but if you know the estates it's usually a fairly small minority of the residents causing grief.
So therefore can I be really selective and pick out differnt houses on different estates lump them all together and then get rid of them.
I've got friends on several estates and wouldn't want to lose them, estates such as Batemoor, Lowedges, Woodthorpe, and one that no-ones mentioned Parsons Cross particularily around the Wordsworth Tavern.

Voise

23-10-2004, 20:09

Not strictly an 'estate', but I would like to nominate S11. Having said that, they will probably all die of measles, mumps and rubella in the next few years anyway...

ToryCynic

23-10-2004, 22:36

What's wrong with S11 prefix? It's made up of nice areas such as Ecclesall, Hunter's Bar, Nether Edge, Greystones. Why would you want to get rid of a postcode prefix that includes nice areasis beyond me!

Alex

vidster

23-10-2004, 22:58

Originally posted by Tazz070299
I'm surprised there's any debate on this one. The suburb of Sheffield worth making disappear has to be ROTHERHAM.

Or, more seriously, The Manor. The only good thing about the manor estate is that it makes all the others you have suggested look good.

regards

Mark

When did you last see the Manor?

t020

23-10-2004, 23:06

Originally posted by amhudson119
What's wrong with S11 prefix? It's made up of nice areas such as Ecclesall, Hunter's Bar, Nether Edge, Greystones. Why would you want to get rid of a postcode prefix that includes nice areasis beyond me!

Alex

Spiteful envy probably. Don't really get the MMR thing either...

t020

23-10-2004, 23:07

Originally posted by vidster
When did you last see the Manor?

A couple of months ago on BBC1's 'Traffic Cops', where it features very heavily!!

vidster

23-10-2004, 23:11

Originally posted by t020
A couple of months ago on BBC1's 'Traffic Cops', where it features very heavily!!

I was just wondering when someone from London last saw the Manor. Don't get me wrong i'm not sticking up for the estate.

Draggletail

24-10-2004, 00:11

Originally posted by t020
I still don't think residential areas like Fulwood can really be described as being "estates". I've never heard anyone in "real life" refer to such areas as "estates". To me, an estate is either a council estate or an obvious new development estate where the lego land style clearly defines it as an individual estate of housing.
Anyone in "real life" whats real life, t0. It's all relative:roll:

Strix

24-10-2004, 00:29

Originally posted by draggletail
Anyone in "real life" whats real life, t0. It's all relative:roll:
'Real life' varies according to the amount of tea and biscuits consumed in an evening :wink:

Draggletail

24-10-2004, 00:33

Biscuits, har! biscuits! And The CRB:partyhat:

Strix

24-10-2004, 00:48

Think I've just spotted one of those subliminal messages floating up my screen :suspect:

Off topic again? If the Badger were oblitterated we'd probably get more sleep around here. Funny how all the clapped out novas/corsas/clios/mkII astras in various states of disrepair all seem to be revving their way in that direction. Often followed minutes later by a stripey 206 with disco lights ablaze!

Nothing against the place itself, just it's attraction to people who have no respect for an engine... Or tyres... Or other people for that matter

mojoworking

24-10-2004, 04:48

Originally posted by t020
A couple of months ago on BBC1's 'Traffic Cops', where it features very heavily!!

Was that the one where the local scroat on the trail bike (unlicensed, no tax, insurance, helmet, underage etc) cleaned himself up by driving into the side of a passing car.

Even though he was not to blame, the car driver was "not local", and the Manor trailer trash were about to lynch him when the cops turned up. The police more or less admitted on camera that the Manor is a no-go area and even the cops don't relish the idea of going there.

PaulTansley

24-10-2004, 08:28

Get rid of Pitsmoor, it would'nt take much as half of its gone anyway.:clap:

bellis

24-10-2004, 09:04

Originally posted by Cycleracer
Get rid of Pitsmoor, it would'nt take much as half of its gone anyway.:clap:
that is so true
but look at whats left
:D :D :D

PaulTansley

24-10-2004, 09:43

Originally posted by panda79
that is so true
but look at whats left
:D :D :D Yeah full of muggers and pimps.

bellis

24-10-2004, 10:12

Originally posted by Cycleracer
Yeah full of muggers and pimps.
and a few social worker types: think of any social misfit and i bet pitsmoor has them :D :D :D

Robbie Loving

24-10-2004, 10:22

i wont stand here while you slag pitsmoor off

il stand over here LOL

yeah, get rid of it

PaulTansley

24-10-2004, 11:01

LOL, ok we 'd better behave or the mods will terminate this thread to.
With our last selection of insults on the mugging thread they could merge this with tha and call it Pitsmoor the land of thieves and misfits.

leddi

24-10-2004, 15:16

I just had to write this post because i think its so unfair that everyone is always getting on at people who live in fulwood!! yeah some of them are ******* but im not! when my parents bought our house 20 yrs ago it was a toss up between this house and one on the estate what is now known as foxhill and yes they were the same price! so im not snooty or stuck up and i dont think that your personality or opinions can be pigeon holed by the area in which you reside.
thank you for letting me winge

rich1068

24-10-2004, 15:36

I got the MMR reference. Very good!

Anyway, Dore. I'd let Totley off if they behave themselves, but Dore has got to go.

t020

24-10-2004, 17:20

Originally posted by rich1068

Anyway, Dore. I'd let Totley off if they behave themselves, but Dore has got to go.

Any particular reason?

smedley

24-10-2004, 17:54

Because the Daily Mail-reading people of said area carry themselves like they're living in the home counties, and don't give a **** about what's happening five minutes down the road as long as it doesn't get on their doorstep.

Seadiver

24-10-2004, 18:34

The problem with the council estates in Sheffield is instead of putting all the scum bags and toe rags all together on one estate, they spread them out all over the place.

What needs to be done is round them all up, ( the Police and the Council know who they are) move them to an area like the site of the old pit at Orgreave. They then errect guard towers and put plenty of barbed wire around the site and keep them all in there. As none of them have any jobs there is no reason for them to ever be let out, one night when the place is full to bursting put a big plastic bubble over it and fill it full of gas.....problem sorted.

I bet the council estates would soon improve once the " Untermensch " had been removed.

t020

24-10-2004, 18:40

Originally posted by smedley
Because the Daily Mail-reading people of said area carry themselves like they're living in the home counties, and don't give a **** about what's happening five minutes down the road as long as it doesn't get on their doorstep.

That's a wild generalisation. And what's wrong with the Home Counties? Sounds like spiteful envy to me.

max

24-10-2004, 18:42

I thought this was about getting rid of a particular estate because of the architecture or lack of thought in design. Suddenly, it's about people not buildings. :loopy:

Pete1024

24-10-2004, 19:29

Some Very PC comments above?! I love it!

My vote goes to Sharrow/hanover because the rest of the estates are more out of town and therefore cause less trouble in town. I mean the manor has its own shops and doll office etc.
The Sharrow/Hanover scag seam to seap their way up the moor every day and as for the architechture well its cramping the sytle of the nice new waitrose.

rich1068

24-10-2004, 20:35

Originally posted by t020
Any particular reason?

As reasoned an argument as any of the other posters in this thread ie I like to make sweeping generalisations and I have a large chip on my shoulder :D

Thinking about it I'd probably keep going that way (Totley, you're safe) and do the Hope Valley too. Does that count?

Oh! Architecture and lack of thought in design! Sorry. Right, well, I'd pull down the new Town Hall, fill in the hole in the road, bring back trams but not to any areas where it would actually ease traffic congestion, build some amazing new leisure facilities where people used to work (oh! the irony) and generally refuse large multinationals who wish to bring jobs and money to our fair city. I'd also have a completely nonsensical outlook on bar licensing so we can keep all the meatheads in one place at the weekend ie the entire city centre and generally continue to vote in city councilors who have their heads so far up their own arses it's frightening. I'd ban phone masts too but double the number around Berkley Precinct on Ecclesall Road. At some point I'd also like some of the many city centre pedestrian/motorist projects finished rather than them all looking a bit 'untidy'.

There. I feel better now. I only found this forum today, it's great :thumbsup:

My name is Richard and I'm proud to be from Sheffield!

spiffymonkey

24-10-2004, 20:37

After all the hassle with the 'my area's better than your area' arguments in the last week of so, is this really a wise topic?

It's already caused one thread to be modded down from 5 pages to 3 posts due to the content of some of the posts.

t020

24-10-2004, 21:01

Originally posted by rich1068

My name is Richard and I'm proud to be from Sheffield!

Why slag off its nicest areas with residents that fund so much of your city then? :loopy:

Plain Talker

24-10-2004, 21:08

Originally posted by Pete1024
Some Very PC comments above?! I love it!

My vote goes to Sharrow/hanover because the rest of the estates are more out of town and therefore cause less trouble in town. I mean the manor has its own shops and doll office etc.
The Sharrow/Hanover scag seam to seap their way up the moor every day and as for the architechture well its cramping the sytle of the nice new waitrose.

I'd disagree, not just because I actually live on the cusp of Sharrow and Nether Edge, but because there is a lot of worthy stuff going on in Sharrow.

Within this district, there is the old-fashioned ethos of "community". like in the good-old, bad-old days, when folk watched out for each other.

A lot of the people who are resident in Sharrow are very community minded. The local TRA is very active in getting the area regenerated, and getting the people involved in regeneration.

At the moment we are trying to get sorted out with certain roads, which are used as rat runs or as parking areas for the staff in the big, corporate offices, around Napier Street/ Ecclesall Road, who simply can't be ars*d to pay their pitifully low parking charges in the office's purpose built parking lot. They'd much rather park nose to tail, on the streets, and cause a hazard for local kiddies...

Anyway, one of our plans is to have these problem streets reclassified as "home streets", which will limit access to them for non-residents, and make them more pleasant, and safer for the kiddies. The speeds of any vehicle will be drastically reduced, and the area landscaped with planting, and resident-specific parking.

Aother plan is to have landscaped green areas in a sort of chain, linking from the green area along Washington Road, all the way up to the top of Sharrow Lane. We are working with the ranger service who will assist us in selecting the best plants for the spaces. they will be like little oases , communal green areas for all to enjoy.

The community comes together to hold a brilliant community festival, on the Mount Pleasant Park, where the different communities and cultures within the area contribute to celebrating the diversity. It's a wonderful event, which is very well attended. (people even come from outside the area to attend!)

I have mentioned the diversity already, in other posts, on this district. the ethnic and religious mix is brilliant.

there are a number of excellent primary schools, and these, in their turn are feeder schools for some of the best-achieving state-schools in the city, if not (IMO) the country... King Eckberts, High Storrs and Silverdale Schools. (these have some of the best GCSE and A-level results, and a significant number of pupils who transfer-on to the most prestigious universities -Oxford, Cambridge, Sheffield Liverpool, and Birmingham etc)

there is an excellent (international) organisation, based in our area, called "FURD", "Football Unites, Racism Divides", which works with young people to combat racism, through a common love of "The Beautiful Game". Part of my work has been to link with FURD, and mentor young people who are volunteering for community projects, with the charity which employs me. it's been wonderful seeing these youngsters blossom, and develop.

It is a really great area to live in.

The bit I am in is lovely and tree-filled, so quiet, it doesn't feel like it is anywhere near as close to the city centre as it is, yet I can get in my wheelchair, and within fifteen minutes' trundle I can be in the city centre and the facilities there(or at work...).
Or alternatively, for recreation, I have Endcliffe Park, and the Botanical Gardens on my doorstep, where I can take the grandchildren and enjoy feeding the squirrels, or the ducks.

I really would not want to live anwhere else, now.

PT

rich1068

24-10-2004, 21:10

I think a sense of humour when responding to a thread entitled 'If you could make one Sheffield estate disappear...' is rather essential. Don't you?

Why slag off its nicest areas with residents that fund so much of your city then?

I'm from Sheffield. I'm allowed to slag it off :P Now if I was from, I don't know, Leeds for instance... :shocked:

brooksy

24-10-2004, 21:21

big problem with some of the more affluent folk on here is that the people wholive in some of the areas they are slagging on cant afford to move anywhere else. another point for some off you toffy nosed ----- is you woudnt want em anyway even if they had money, bit of a paradox there ithink. ps i live on a council estate so lump me in with all the other riff raff if it pleases.

fridgeman

25-10-2004, 06:58

:loopy: neeeeeeeeeek,where is lonley????
i'd get rid of pitsmoor,used to be a nice area a few years back.one family per house not like now!!!!
everyone was employed not like now,full of dole heads asking for free handouts,then spending it in the bookies and pub.
it would also get rid of the ladies of the night,weird creatures :gag:

spiffymonkey

25-10-2004, 07:17

Originally posted by fridgeman
:loopy: neeeeeeeeeek,where is lonley????

Oh, someplace out on it's own ;-)

TBH I think I'd have to go with Park Hill. Don't get me wrong, I know many people who live there and, when I worked up on City Road some years back, I used to go down there for dinner. I've got nothing against the estate itself. But the building... it's just so damned ugly! Blot on the landscape is one thing, but I'm afraid it's more of a giant thumb on the photograph that is Sheffield.

Tony_BLiar

25-10-2004, 13:41

Im from Pitsmoor but got out and went to Uni, thank **** for that! I would say that there are many areas in Sheff which need cleansing but not completely removing. If the law did as it should then most of the pikeys on these estates would be locked up. Thats the failing, the decent people on these estates are troubled by problem families who flout the law continuously and then collect their benefits for doing sod all. How do they get away with not working? I spent 2 months on the dole once and the DSS made my life hell!

Sheffield is fighting a losing battle and eventually the whole of it will be better off being erased from memory, sad really cos its a beautiful area thats not appreciated by chav scum

nick2

25-10-2004, 14:06

Originally posted by t020
Why slag off its nicest areas with residents that fund so much of your city then? :loopy:

Gawd bless them kind sirs on the hill, they provide for us they do, 'cause were too poor to pay taxes out of our mill wages.

Oh, Puuuurlease.

max

25-10-2004, 14:08

Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
Sheffield is fighting a losing battle and eventually the whole of it will be better off being erased from memory, sad really cos its a beautiful area thats not appreciated by chav scum

And that from someone who lives in Essex. :rolleyes:

Tony_BLiar

25-10-2004, 14:16

To Max, Stannington....

You Said:
Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
Sheffield is fighting a losing battle and eventually the whole of it will be better off being erased from memory, sad really cos its a beautiful area thats not appreciated by chav scum

My Reply:

If you read the post correctly you will see I am from Pitsmoor. Are we talking about Essex on this board? Thought not....nice to see your intelligent comment though, keep it up...

smedley

25-10-2004, 14:30

Yes but he said you 'live' in Essex, which according to your description, you do.

However, I think living on a bed of nails in the Antarctic is preferable to living in Pitsmoor, so well done for getting out.

max

25-10-2004, 14:34

Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
To Max, Stannington....

You Said:
Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
Sheffield is fighting a losing battle and eventually the whole of it will be better off being erased from memory, sad really cos its a beautiful area thats not appreciated by chav scum

My Reply:

If you read the post correctly you will see I am from Pitsmoor. Are we talking about Essex on this board? Thought not....nice to see your intelligent comment though, keep it up...

Hi, well done for jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

Tony_BLiar

25-10-2004, 14:39

Originally posted by max
Hi, well done for jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

Cheers man, just seen my error! Maybe I am a chav after all?!!! Shl I pst my mssgs intxt lnge like a propa chav?!!

joyphil

25-10-2004, 14:56

Originally posted by max
I thought this was about getting rid of a particular estate because of the architecture or lack of thought in design. Suddenly, it's about people not buildings. :loopy:

No Max, it was, and I quote:

Let's say you could play God...

If you could make one area of Sheffield disappear, without a trace, which would it be?

Not estates, areas. Not buildings or people specifically. Just areas.

max

25-10-2004, 15:04

Originally posted by joyphil
No Max, it was, and I quote:

Let's say you could play God...

If you could make one area of Sheffield disappear, without a trace, which would it be?

Not estates, areas. Not buildings or people specifically. Just areas.

Not wishing to be pedantic, oh well if you insist I will, the title of this thread is:

If you could make one Sheffield estate disappear...

but, as it's your thread, you can make it whatever you want and change your mind half way through.

joyphil

25-10-2004, 15:09

Ah, you've got a point there. In which case I nominate Sheffield's estate... agents. Bunch of blackguards, the lot of 'em.

max

25-10-2004, 15:16

Oops, no it's not your thread, sorry smedley. :blush:

smedley

25-10-2004, 15:41

Just to clarify, the subect was open to each and everyone's interpretation. Therefore if you want to get rid of the Manor because it's full of soapdodgers, fair enough. Likewise if you'd like to see the back of Ranmoor because it's full of 'Hyacinth Bucket' types who have no idea how much coke their kids are shoving up their schnozzlers, that would also be fine.

As you were...

joyphil

25-10-2004, 15:56

Maybe it'd be amusing to shift the personnel about, fill Ranmoor and Fullwood with scrotes and shift the Donnie Darko kids along with their woeful parents to Manor etc. Install cameras and watch as social experiment in the style of Wife Swap. Is there a reality show in there? Would the subjects all become the same middle-of-the-road individuals, proving that environment and breeding were just as influential as each other. Ah, Charlotte Fullwood-Smythe, ming for a day. Tattooed Baz, come on up...

nick2

25-10-2004, 15:59

Originally posted by joyphil
Maybe it'd be amusing to shift the personnel about, fill Ranmoor and Fullwood with scrotes and shift the Donnie Darko kids along with their woeful parents to Manor etc. Install cameras and watch as social experiment in the style of Wife Swap. Is there a reality show in there? Would the subjects all become the same middle-of-the-road individuals, proving that environment and breeding were just as influential as each other. Ah, Charlotte Fullwood-Smythe, ming for a day. Tattooed Baz, come on up...

LOL - I'm glad someone else has noticed the "trying very hard to rebel" youths of Ranmoor, Dore and other such places.

joyphil

25-10-2004, 16:13

"Look at them," said Sandra Bullock in Murder by Numbers, "they're like orphans with credit cards."

smedley

25-10-2004, 16:40

You and your highbrow quotes!

"Ooh stick you, your momma too" - Daphne & Celeste

joyphil

25-10-2004, 16:54

Aha! I raise you: "Why don't you go suck a f***?" - Donnie Darko

astraflash

02-11-2004, 18:25

I would throw hillsborough off the deep end as it is full off 20 something year old geeks

spiffymonkey

02-11-2004, 18:51

Originally posted by astraflash
I would throw hillsborough off the deep end as it is full off 20 something year old geeks

But the Deep End is IN Hillsborough!?!?

Also, as a 20-something geek I resent being likened to the irresponsible idiots who make Hillsborough a rather unpleasant place to be of an evening. I'd rather sit for a quiet pint in the Hillsborough Hotel (up near Upperthorpe) or down at the Kelham Island or Fat Cat.

In fact, I need a pint.

*exits, stage left*

ToryCynic

02-11-2004, 23:28

Originally posted by vidster
I was just wondering when someone from London last saw the Manor. Don't get me wrong i'm not sticking up for the estate.

Well, I too saw it on Car Wars :P

Alex

Snook

02-11-2004, 23:32

I'd like to see the Ford Sierra estate disappear. It looks so old fashioned and cheap, makes Sheffield's streets look bad.

joyphil

03-11-2004, 10:57

What about the Estate of man? That's getting a bit dingy nowadays, too.

NatalieSheff

03-11-2004, 12:10

agree about hillsborough rough rough rough, but you get it everywhere now - good and bad that is! there are always fights around thre - usually girls. am sure police haev got better things to be doind than sorting out drunken brawls. nice restaurant in hills though - sette colli

ilaria

03-11-2004, 12:22

if i could play god i would like to get rid of tinsley because they have no respect for anyone.

NatalieSheff

03-11-2004, 12:31

cant we just sap chesterfield instead?? te he

joyphil

03-11-2004, 14:15

Of course we can't. Where would the Chesterfield Road go then? The poor thing would lose all its sense of purpose.

nick2

03-11-2004, 14:19

We could build a retail park at the end instead called "Chesterhall" ?

NatalieSheff

03-11-2004, 14:22

OR we could miss out the chester and keep the field, so the road leads to a big field with pretty flowers and ponies

hexdrummer

03-11-2004, 14:58

Originally posted by brooksy
id get rid of all the snooty were so much better than you areas, such as fulwood; millhouses and all the other holy than thou areas. they make me sick , always putting council estates and such areas down.

so you'd rather keep all the crap run down estates filled with crime and drugs abuse would you? I'm not saying all council estate are like this, but you don't find it in those areas you mentioned.

For me, the problem isn't an estate, its the people that are placed into them. you can't name one area in which they all are, but removing the selfish, cruel, criminally minded, antisocial, violent people would do more good than just removing an estate.

hexdrummer

03-11-2004, 15:09

Originally posted by smedley
I don't know. Back when I was at college, everyone was trying to look like Robert Smith, and drank in dives like the Hallamshire.

These days students all seem to be driving chav cars (old VW golfs, clios, etc) decked out in chav clothing (lacoste, ted baker, ****, etc), sport chav haircuts (ironic mullets, etc), and knock off chavvy student lasses (jenny-from-the-block-of-flats-tracksuits), lsitening to commercial crap like Busted, and drinking bottles on expensive lager instead of filling the back of a Triumph Dolomite with 18 crates of Baltic Lager from the Makro.

Students are getting far too 'townie'... They'll be growing pencil 'taches and drinking in the stone House next.

Maybe you are looking in the wrong place - all of the students i know are still dressing like goths and striving to be deep and meaningful.

nick2

03-11-2004, 15:29

Originally posted by NATALIESHEFF
OR we could miss out the chester and keep the field, so the road leads to a big field with pretty flowers and ponies

Ooh, yes, I love ponies (not in a pervy way though mind you)

tiffy

28-01-2005, 12:36

So if you got rid of these estates for whatever reason, where would you rehouse the residents? Or are you all really condemning the natives?:|

JBee

28-01-2005, 13:05

Parkhill and surrounding area - for obvious reasons.

NatalieSheff

28-01-2005, 13:38

Originally posted by nick2
Ooh, yes, I love ponies (not in a pervy way though mind you)
my little pony....skinny and boney....

ToryCynic

28-01-2005, 13:40

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
my little pony....skinny and boney....

Off topic: Natalie - you've only been here a few months and you've done nearly one thousand, five-hundred posts!

On topic: I don't know the city well enough to give an opinion...

Alex

NatalieSheff

28-01-2005, 14:38

Originally posted by amhudson119
Off topic: Natalie - you've only been here a few months and you've done nearly one thousand, five-hundred posts!

On topic: I don't know the city well enough to give an opinion...

Alex
got lots to say:D
ive move my estate to spain. id prob gas a couple of houses but maybe not estates, due to there being goodies and baddies everywhere. but theres always one house, isnt there? one rough, dirty, scruffy, nappy and pooh garden, Argos catalogue cutouts, tipped over wheelies, egged windows type house on certain estates?

sanman

28-01-2005, 16:23

It has to be the Manor (what a bloody money pit)

Craigy

28-01-2005, 20:54

Originally posted by sanman
It has to be the Manor (what a bloody money pit)

Got my vote on that 1..

gatecrasher3

29-01-2005, 08:55

Tazz070299

29-01-2005, 09:01

Originally posted by wasp
Would you be allowed to "take out" Low Edges, Batemoor & Jordanthorpe at the same time. It wouldn't be too much trouble since they are all next to each other.

Well if you use the US Air force's smart bomb technology (put a bomb within metres of target :rolleyes: ) then it would be almost guaranteed.

Tazz

fridgeman

31-01-2005, 06:43

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NatalieSheff
id prob gas a couple of houses

inconsiderate response , please remember that millions of jews were murdered by nazis using gas

smedley

31-01-2005, 09:45

Originally posted by fridgeman
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NatalieSheff
id prob gas a couple of houses

Inconsiderate response , please remember that millions of jews were murdered by nazis using gas

Considering she made no mention of Jews or Nazis, I think your response is both inconsiderate and thoughtless.

Yes, millions of people (not just Jews) were gassed by the Nazis, but does that mean every reference to gas should automatically be affiliated with those acts? I think not.

If I mention that doctors do a great job, will you pull me because Harold Shipman was a doctor?!

Sorry if I interrupted your Daily Mail reading, there.

venger

31-01-2005, 10:24

Originally posted by fridgeman
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NatalieSheff
id prob gas a couple of houses

inconsiderate response , please remember that millions of jews were murdered by nazis using gas

Jesus Christ, can we say anything anymore without being jumped on for a some missing reference?

Light hearrted thread I know but not a very nice one anyway since we have not mastered teleportation yet :gag:

NatalieSheff

31-01-2005, 11:00

Originally posted by fridgeman
inconsiderate response , please remember that millions of jews were murdered by nazis using gas [/B]
yes and Asylum seekers and homosexuals and librarians etc..etc.. like smedley says im not talking about any particular race:loopy: stop thinking of extremes, this thread is light headed, lets keep it that way, cos noone would seriously WIPE OUT an estate if they could - plonker!

joyphil

31-01-2005, 13:31

Ooh, I don't know. There's a really nasty Vauxhall Omega estate parked near my house I'd happily make disappear. No real reason, apart from the fact that it's ugly. And that I have an irrational loathing of Vauxhall cars.

NatalieSheff

31-01-2005, 14:37

my friends neighbour has those banger cars parked on his drive and front lawn and road and pavement :gag:

fox20thc

01-02-2005, 16:52

Originally posted by Internetowl
As someone posted earlier - problem with re-generation money is that it gets eaten up in admin charges - people from outside the area being re-generated come in , waste the money and then move on to the next area - ripe for plucking.

Someone suggested its all a big scam - they could be right!

I work for a community organisation who have had a shed load of regen money. It has been put to good use and not frittered away on scams. When I say 'work for' I mean on a voluntary basis, no expenses claimed and for the last 6 years! as have my fellow volunteers. We have created paid employment for people in our community as a result of the regeneration. So unless you are doing the same, and contributing to regeneration dont judge everyone else by your own standards.
:mad:

middlewood online (http://www.geocities.com/middlewooduk)

Snoopy

02-02-2005, 10:59

I don't want to appear nit picking or racist and off message but millions of people were not murdered by a political party {the nazis] they were killed by the german people. Its Like saying a coalition of Liberals , Conservatives, and Labour bombed Dresden.

Andy78

02-02-2005, 11:05

Originally posted by Snoopy
I don't want to appear nit picking or racist and off message but millions of people were not murdered by a political party {the nazis] they were killed by the german people. Its Like saying a coalition of Liberals , Conservatives, and Labour bombed Dresden.

That was a bit of a pointless, irrelevant post.

Mickyboy

02-02-2005, 11:18

It,s got to be the Badger Estate full of thieves dogs, yobs.

I do however agree with Snoopy's comment .The Germans get off lightly under political correctness perhaps it's worth a new link, to see what others think

Andy78

02-02-2005, 11:32

probably is worth a new thread, but can I just clarify the point. Are you suggesting that the germans today are someway responsible for the past?

Actually I think there is a thread about this already. I'll post it when I find it.

EDIT: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=26452

Mickyboy

02-02-2005, 12:23

No I'm not suggesting that Germans today are any more responsible for the actions of the past any more than we are responsible for the Zulu wars. But what is irksome is that the Nazis is used as an umbrella term for the atrocities commited by the Axis powers in the second world war,whereas the majority of German people went merrily along with Hitlers ideas and most were not even members of the Nazi party but most colluded or turned blind eyes to what was happening as recent television programmes have shown

chem1st

05-10-2009, 15:28

-----Ekhulsorl-----

Captain_Scarlet

05-10-2009, 15:37

I still don't think residential areas like Fulwood can really be described as being "estates". I've never heard anyone in "real life" refer to such areas as "estates". To me, an estate is either a council estate or an obvious new development estate where the lego land style clearly defines it as an individual estate of housing.An estate is a group of building built together under the same style.
Meersbrook Bank is an estate as is Nether Edge (drawn by George Wostenholm). Half of Dore is estates (Abbeydale Park, Bushy Wood Grange, Totley Brook), Totley has a few; New Totley, Overcroft Rise...
There's so much beyond the tip of your nose if you bother looking.id get rid of all the snooty were so much better than you areas, such as fulwood; millhouses and all the other holy than thou areas. they make me sick , always putting council estates and such areas down.Yet there you are dumbing them down. doing the same thing you accuse them from doing? You like living in a type, they like living without crime and with trees? I find it hard why someone would not strive to try and live somewhere nice? Why the apathy?

CheekyBandit

05-10-2009, 15:40

Would like to see Worksop flattened. Might not be a Sheffield estate but it certainly merits this on the basis that the place has a Sheffield postcode, is a dormitory town for the city (well was for me the last 9 months of my time there) and is a complete dump. I should know as I spent eight miserable years there.

hard2miss

05-10-2009, 16:06

They did it with the flower estate, they knocked half of that down saying "we have surplace of social housing"

stocky22

05-10-2009, 16:18

hyde park would be my choice

eastbank

05-10-2009, 16:43

i'd just get rid of the area between queens road and london road....with it goes the lane....

CheekyBandit

05-10-2009, 16:59

i'd just get rid of the area between queens road and london road....with it goes the lane....

Just the lane in that area needs getting rid of.

top totty

05-10-2009, 18:27

I would take out Darnall, Firvale, Pitsmoor....oh and all of the drug dealers anywhere

Mister M

05-10-2009, 20:55

One area of Sheffield....How about Meadowhall

daftlad

05-10-2009, 21:00

page hall, looks third world

Sarkysod

05-10-2009, 21:09

How about any area that contains 10 bob snobs?

A.B.Yaffle

05-10-2009, 21:54

Gleadless Valley.

LS Sheffield

05-10-2009, 22:38

Still Abbeydale Road

:O)

It is a complete eye sore and a nasty little squalid ghetto

sheff71

05-10-2009, 23:23

Obviously Hillsborough should be obliterated (preferably with the ground full, not that it's likely to be full again :D), but apart from that, wipe out the whole area along Eccy Rd/Eccy Rd South from Hunters Bar out of town - and then move out the lowlifes from the likes of Pitsmoor, Manor, Woodthorpe etc in there to start again...

Alternatively, leave that posh area standing, but install numerous tower blocks in these areas to house the Shameless types, and see what effect it has on their house prices and community spirit... share out the problems across Sheffield :)

The New Kelvin Towers in Endcliffe Park, or Hyde Park Memorial Flats in Ringinglow would be interesting...

Vague_Boy

06-10-2009, 00:24

goldenfleece

06-10-2009, 01:06

whats the point of this thread? Surely it will just end up with fans of various estates all slagging each other off.......

Dozy

06-10-2009, 01:50

whats the point of this thread? Surely it will just end up with fans of various estates all slagging each other off....... My bold

I think you answered your own question!! :hihi:

angeliccarly

06-10-2009, 06:19

pitsmore would get my vote hands down, but if i could play god as you suggest, i could think of a few more important things i could get out of the situation.

Halibut

06-10-2009, 06:31

Still Abbeydale Road

:O)

It is a complete eye sore and a nasty little squalid ghetto

I really like it - it's lively and interesting.

LS Sheffield

06-10-2009, 10:37

Men in Jim-jams and ladies dressed in CCC's spring clearance one woman tents does not make for lively and interesting.

Cars parked as though the occupants were running from a Tsunami does not make for interesting and certainly reduces the traffic flow to less than lively.

Trying to work out what language is being jabbered at you by an irrate bloke with a three foot beard is unsettling to say the least...Especially when it turns out he only wants the parking space that you have...He has rights to it in his opinion.

bit if I cannot have Abbeydale road so be it...

I will bulldoze Staniforth Road instead

Cuey

06-10-2009, 11:05

At the moment we are trying to get sorted out with certain roads, which are used as rat runs or as parking areas for the staff in the big, corporate offices, around Napier Street/ Ecclesall Road, who simply can't be ars*d to pay their pitifully low parking charges in the office's purpose built parking lot. They'd much rather park nose to tail, on the streets, and cause a hazard for local kiddies...

I have mentioned the diversity already, in other posts, on this district. the ethnic and religious mix is brilliant.
.
PT

Ah the rise of the ignorant do gooder. Its never far away from a bohemian paradise that only benefits them at everyone else's expense.

To correct your wildly wrong information (not that it will matter because why would you let the truth get in the way)

Most of the building on Napier st have small car parks. Suitable for about 20%of the staff. They don't charge but if they did i for one would jump at the chance of a guaranteed space. The joke is that parking in the streets is very cheap so people rightly use it but is limited to 4 hours so they need to move their cars. Parking further away is nothing to do with cost. Its just easier than having to go out at lunch time (because a lot of them WORK and don't have long for lunch) If they are within the law thats their right. If you can supply a realistic alternative arrangement then lets hear it. Its easy to criticize the employed when you don't have to go out while your hand outs just go into your bank.

So which estate would i do away with. Any one with too large a proportion of liberal NIMBY scroungers. One big flash of light and the jobs done.