what would be your 5 main policies

mine.

1.anyone unemployed would do community service or join the army..scrap dole money.

2.money saved on dole money put into health service.

3.stop immigration-deport any immigrants that commit crime

4.get rid of our stupid licencing laws

5.give free heroin to any idiot that wants it.

vote for me:)

If you were giving away free heroin, hardly anyone would need their dole money.

Seriously though...

Raise the legal driving age to 21.

Infringe strict rules on broadcasting (getting rid of all the junk on TV and radio).

Scrap VAT, instead charging tax according to income and outgoings.

Make smoking illegal (since, in essence, it is a far more dangerous drug than most illegal ones)

Zero-tolerance on drink-driving, imposing instant, severe prison sentences for anyone caught.

I would do exaclty the opposite,

1 - Vastly increase the level of dole money and benefits available to anyone who needs it, while hiking taxes paid by the best off - "each according to his means to each according to his need"

2 - look seriously at how to tackle our utterly destructive culture of drinking - tighter licensing laws first off.

3 - open door immigration to overcome skills shortages and tackle our impending aging population and subsequent penisons crises


Kirky - would a wage be paid for the communoity service? How would this or increased costs on the military pay for a better health service?

the reason i'd give free heroin away is because it would get rid of dealers and addicts having to rob to get a fix..i reckon a £10 wrap costs about 50p......so give it away..:)

Most things you pay £10 for on a daily basis only cost 50p...

Why don't you start giving everything away, oh great PM?!

seriosuly -

overhaul the planning system to place social and environmental criteria as the prime criteria.

Implement road user charging to pay for massive investments in public transport which would be re nationalised on the spot.

I'd stop treating people with smoking or drinking related illnesses, too.

Maybe a great idea would be to stick people dying of lung cancer and liver problems in the Big Brother house, so we could all watch them die a slow and very painful death.

That would beat those adverts with the 30yr old bloke wheezing away.

Originally posted by smedley
I'd stop treating people with smoking or drinking related illnesses, too.

Maybe a great idea would be to stick people dying of lung cancer and liver problems in the Big Brother house, so we could all watch them die a slow and very painful death.

That would beat those adverts with the 30yr old bloke wheezing away.

Suddenly Michael Howard looks quite apealing.

1. Unilateral Strategic and Tactical Nuclear Disarmament and invest recouped capital in health, education and renationalising public transport.
2. Legalise and Licence all drugs (all of them, not just the currently illegal ones).
3. Abolish VAT completely on everthing - put all taxes under the auspices of IR, not C&E (Hey Gordon, take your secret police force and stuff it)
4. Introduce PR elections to national parliament.
5. Build more nuclear power plants.

five is the limit right?
:D

Kirky - would a wage be paid for the communoity service? How would this or increased costs on the military pay for a better health service?

i don't know i'm just a humble window cleaner,but as ive been an employer for the past 13 years, i do know its hard to get staff to do a job that involves hard graft.....perhaps if idle dole wellers were made to work for their money they might consider getting proper jobs........and yes i do know that alot of people on the dole arn't there by choice but i also know loads of them are.....and if you'd let in more immigrants to fill vaccancies as you say could we send an equal ammount of dole wellers the other way.......

Nick... More soapbox-liberalism...

I'm talking about making the country a healthier, better place. It's easy to sit there and be sarcastic, but I'm not seeing your five super suggestions.

Why am I not surprised?

Originally posted by smedley
Nick... More soapbox-liberalism...

I'm talking about making the country a healthier, better place. It's easy to sit there and be sarcastic, but I'm not seeing your five super suggestions.

Why am I not surprised?

I fail to see how putting dying people on TV will make the country a better place.

If I was the Prime Minister my first duty would be to apologise and resign!

Proprtional trepresentation reforms - good one.

Originally posted by theflyingfish
Proprtional trepresentation reforms - good one.

i was gonna say that:(

Originally posted by nick2
I fail to see how putting dying people on TV will make the country a better place.

Because hopefully some muppet sitting there with a fag in one hand and a pint in the other might think "That'll be me in a few years if I don't smarten up".

Nobody listens to government ads, and I've seen loads of smokers take the p*** out of the warnings on packets.

Maybe they'd take life a little more seriously if they knew they weren't gonig to be bailed out when their insides packed up.

Do you get it now?!

Originally posted by smedley
Because hopefully some muppet sitting there with a fag in one hand and a pint in the other might think "That'll be me in a few years if I don't smarten up".

Nobody listens to government ads, and I've seen loads of smokers take the p*** out of the warnings on packets.

Maybe they'd take life a little more seriously if they knew they weren't gonig to be bailed out when their insides packed up.

Do you get it now?!

I get it, I think it's sick, but I get it.

How about putting car crash victims on there too (still trapped in the wreckage would be nice), as a warning not to drive too fast ?

Why not have 70mph limiters on cars in the first place?

Ever think of that?

Originally posted by smedley
Why not have 70mph limiters on cars in the first place?

Ever think of that?

Wouldn't stop someone doing 70mph in a 30 zone would it?

Nomme

Originally posted by smedley
Why not have 70mph limiters on cars in the first place?

Ever think of that?

You should have stuck that in your list so we didn't have to. :D

So... Five Policies you would enact if you were made Prime Minister tomorrow (with an obedient parliamentary majority, natch)?

Anyone else got any bright ideas apart from the ones so far expressed?

1- I think I'd make us join the Euro, if possible I would make there be one currency for the whole world, that would simplify things.

2- I'd make University free again, but charge people who drop out or don't pass the amount they would have been charged.

3- I'd make trains and buses free.

4- I'd build more wind farms and hydroelectric power stations and offer the people who live near them free electricity.

5- I'd limit couples to one child.


Obviously some of these ideas won't work.

Originally posted by nick2
I get it, I think it's sick, but I get it.

How about putting car crash victims on there too (still trapped in the wreckage would be nice), as a warning not to drive too fast ?

If I remember this has been done before (without the bodies). Adverts last Crimbo (I think) showed wreckages and had Sir Clifford Richard singing mistletoe & wine or summat like that.

Suffering on all levels in just one advert.

Originally posted by wasp
If I remember this has been done before (without the bodies). Adverts last Crimbo (I think) showed wreckages and had Sir Clifford Richard singing mistletoe & wine or summat like that.

Suffering on all levels in just one advert.

Damn, I've used my 5 suggestions now, someone else suggest throwing Cliff Richard into a volcano.

ive just realised i missed a very important one from my original 5...execute joy riders and fake burb cap wearers:D

Originally posted by smedley
Why not have 70mph limiters on cars in the first place?

Ever think of that?

Doesn't make any difference. Smart cars only go about 85mph tops and they are the most photographed car by speed cameras. Their drivers seem to have their foot to the floor everywhere they go.

I also remember seeing on Top Gear that they were voted No1 in the top 10 gayest cars. I think all the heterosexual drivers are trying to prove the contrary.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
You should have stuck that in your list so we didn't have to. :D

So... Five Policies you would enact if you were made Prime Minister tomorrow (with an obedient parliamentary majority, natch)?

Anyone else got any bright ideas apart from the ones so far expressed?

And your five are..?

Ever noticed how easy it is to jump in with (not so) witticisms, rather than actually coming up with something better.

Yourus Latini suckus assus

Originally posted by smedley
And your five are..?

Ever noticed how easy it is to jump in with (not so) witticisms, rather than actually coming up with something better.

Yourus Latini suckus assus
erm look here- http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=192332#post192332

silly :D

Oh yeah... Sorry 'bout that.

Kirky
I'd vote for you in a minute, don't know about the Heroin part though.

Nick2 think I'd be afraid to vote for you, you scare me.

Forgot to mention, I'd get some scientist-types to recreate Roy Castle's voice and do a song that goes...

"Legistlation, ooh-ooh, legislation...
Legislation, that's what you need.
If you wanna buy some guns
And rid the streets of bums
Legislations what you nee-eed

if you wanna be a great dictator... yeeeaaaah"

1 No more immigrants, only profesionals. Be more like Australia and turn immigrants away, even if their boats about to sink.

2 Stop testing on animals, we can still test but on the rapists/child abusers in prison.

3 National Service for our petty criminals but a seperate army keeping them from our elite.

4 School sports reintroduced. School football/cricket teams etc.

5 MORE BANK HOLIDAYS!

Originally posted by nick2
I get it, I think it's sick, but I get it.

How about putting car crash victims on there too (still trapped in the wreckage would be nice), as a warning not to drive too fast ?


Now thats just silly! Car crash victims don't have a big warning sticker on their car!

ive been a carcrash victim many times..usually in my ex function room mon-tue and wed nights.....what a racket eh john:D

just thought of another one no benifits for single mothers.....i know a lass round our way with 4 kids....she's about 19 she see's a new baby as a pay rise......

Originally posted by alexdave67
2 Stop testing on animals, we can still test but on the rapists/child abusers in prison.



Thats an interesting suggestion. Animal testing can actually be a bad thing in some cases.... penicilin was tested on animals and found to be dangerous, so wasn't allowed to be taken by humans for years!

Originally posted by poppins
Kirky
I'd vote for you in a minute, don't know about the Heroin part though.

Nick2 think I'd be afraid to vote for you, you scare me.

There is nothing scary about me, I'm not proposing executing people for joyriding or letting people die on live TV.

But you'll sit back and watching people having sex, knocking the crap out of each other, and acting badly in soap operas?

Yep, you've got my vote too.

I don't watch soap operas, mainly becasue they are crap.

Penny on income tax, going 50/50 to education and health

Reestablish apprenticeships - we need people with a trade more than we need media studies graduates

Competitive examinations with winners and losers in schools to get children used to the competitive world out there

Legalise euthanasia - with provisos

24 hour licensing - they licensing hours were only brought in to get the munitions workers back to the factories in the war

Litotes

Erm, I'd do the following:


Legalise Euthanasia

Invest more in renewable energy sources

Invest and greatly improve the frailing transport network

Tougher laws to protect green belt land, old buildings and areas of natural importance from ruthless property developers

A complete overhaul of the current council tax system so it's proportionate to the occupants income instead.


And there's lots more too.

1. women to be totally in charge of everything !
2.big posters of sexy hunky men all over !
3.free galaxy chocolate for all pre menstrual women!
4.no woman can be thin she has to have love handles and wobbly bits !
5.YOU WILL ALL LOVE EACH OTHER AND BE KIND TO EACH OTHER!

OH AND ONE EXTRA 5 day weekends 2 day work days !:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

1) Make prisoners serve the full sentence for their crimes (instead of letting them out early and saying so-and-so has already fully served 2 life sentences etc etc :loopy: )

2) Change the law so a driver who killes someone through driving while intoxicated gets a charge of manslaughter

3) Ban bloodsports (and at the risk of upsetting most people, that includes angling, unless you are going to eat the fish!)

4) Abolish the TV licence, and make the BBC pay-to-view, so those people who love to defend it can put their money where their mouth is and the rest of us are free to choose what to watch!

5) Limit prime ministers to a maximum 2 terms in office.

6) Abolish road tax, and replace it with a higher fuel tax so that people who don't use their cars much aren't unfairly subsidising people who drive a lot.

I'm so glad I don't inhabit a universe where everything that goes wrong is the fault of immigrants and single mothers, or in short, anyone but myself. There are good traits and bad traits in humans, we all have a mixture of the two.

A good government policy will encourage people to behave better with both a carrott and stick approach. If you could stop crime simply by strong punishment every criminal offence would have the death penalty and everyone would follow the law.

I think the first thing I would do would be to stop locking people up with no trial (and potentially no evidence) because they are a "security risk". If people are a danger we should deal with them but not violate their human rights as defined by the European Court.

Originally posted by Patchy

2) Change the law so a driver who killes someone through driving while intoxicated gets a charge of manslaughter


Not that I advocate such Draconian measures but in Bulgaria if you are convicted of drink driving you get an automatic jail sentence of 10 years. If you are convicted again...you face a firing squad.

You can see why no one drink drives in Bulgaria.

I presume when you say be on a manslaughter charge you mean entailing a lenghty prison sentence.

There's a very big range in what the sentence for manslaughter is, because its a very wide definition.

1 End all immigration
2 Abolish trade unions
3 Bring in PR for all elections
4 Raise income tax thresholds
5 Return of corporal punishment

Oh wow, suddenly I have the power.

1. End immigration, send Illegal immigrants back immediately, we're full up.
2 Ban Morris Dancing with immediate effect.
3 Bring back Corporal Punishment, (especially for Morris Dancers)
4 Capital Punishment to be phased in.
5 Unemployed for more than 6 months, National Service
6 Award the Prime Minister a huge pay rise, (backdated to 1982)
7 Bring in several laws involving Halle Berry and the Prime Minister.

All this law making's made me tired, time for a lay down in the Ministerial bed after a few drinks at the Ministerial bar.

Originally posted by Patchy
2) Change the law so a driver who killes someone through driving while intoxicated gets a charge of manslaughter


Thats a bit harsh, perhaps the driver could be run-over by the victims relatives instead ?

I'd surrounded myself with all the greatest financial brains and take all the credit when the financial problems are solved

1-Demolish production of nuclear warheads or any other war-enhancing materials.

2-Send anyone who is a war-enducing swine to a bottomless pit

3-Strategise country ruling to ensure those who have are not more above those that don't in society, whilst maintaining some kind of social order.

4-Employ (and pay well) someone to write a much better and less colloquial version of my pacificist musings.

5-Make peppers cheaper!

Dead easy,

A Para, Royal Marine or 22 SAS Trooper at every major road junction.

Death penalty for anyone who aspires to be Prime Minister. ;)

1. Bring transport into public hands again
2. Stop bonuses to fat cat bosses
3. Stop all immigration, Britain is full, let France take a bigger responsibility
4. Life means life in prison sentences and no cut in sentencing you serve the full term given
5. M.P.s to scrap their expenses and living allowance

1) Tax everything...even crying children.
2) Legalize embezzlement, fraud and corruption (hold on..it already exists in certain circles. yippee!
3) Throw all royalty in the BB house.
4 Buy an Island surrounded by nukes pointing at anyone thinking of trying it on.
5) Remove all laws and create anarchy...hopefully you'll all kill yerself.

Bliss!

1) Bring back National Service
2) Capital punishment brought back
3) Police carry guns
4) The elderly get looked after
5) Smacking children is allowed and not frowned upon like 15 years ago.

Start at the beginning again basically.

Id put troops on our borders for a start -seems like anyone can just walk in lol

1. All parents to take responsibility for their children and their behaviour up to the age of 16.
2. When a prison sentence is 12 years they stay in 12 years and not out after 6 years.
3. All second homes for politicians stopped, build apartment blocks they use when they are MPs.
4. Fulfill election manifesto promises, ie The Referendum promised by Labour.
5. Stop the stupid political correctness and make sure the HRA looks after victims not the perpertrators.

3 - open door immigration to overcome skills shortages and tackle our impending aging population and subsequent penisons crisis.

Wow, you really are serious about transforming this country into just another third world basket case. A report published in October last year in the Spectator magazine proved that immigration has cost Britain money and has caused huge social problems. The article showed that while the Home Office argues that, through their tax and spending, immigrants contribute £2.5 billion more in taxes than they cost in public services, Professor Robert Rowthorn of Cambridge University has shown how this utterly changes depending on what’s included in the calculation. Add the full costs of those services to which they are entitled (NHS treatment, schooling, welfare etc) and immigration incurs a £5.6 billion loss, he pointed out.

A House of Lords report on immigration, also published last year, proved that record levels of immigration are bringing no economic benefit to the country. It stated:

- There is little or no economic benefit to Britain from the present high level of immigration. The immigrants are not needed to fill labour shortages or help fund the state pension for retiring Britons.

- High levels of immigration threaten to price millions of Britons out of the housing market over the next 20 years.

- Government statistics on immigration are “seriously inadequate” and compromise the ability to accurately to set interest rates and allocate £100 billion in public funding.

- Certain groups, including the low-paid, some ethnic minorities and young people seeking to get on the jobs ladder suffer because of competition from immigrants.

- Immigrants have an “important economic impact” on public services with some schools struggling to cope with the rapidly-rising number of children who do not speak English as a first language.

The report says immigration has reached a scale “unprecedented in our history.” It says that the net immigration of non-British persons has trebled from less than 100,000 a year in the early 1990s to more than 300,000 in 2006.

The report contradicted the Government, which has argued that immigration has boosted the economy by £6 billion a year. Ministers have argued that the population may have to rise from 60.6 million to 71 million by 2031 to plug shortages in the labour market.

Just how do immigrants prevent a pensions crisis? Don't immigrants age as well?

I would write into legislation:

A maximum 35 hour working week to combat rising unemployment
The right for anyone to work anywhere in the world
A commitment to the current interest rate levels for the next 5 years
Total nationalisation of the Banks
Increased taxation for the rich

Wow, you really are serious about transforming this country into just another third world basket case. A report published in October last year in the Spectator magazine proved that immigration has cost Britain money and has caused huge social problems. The article showed that while the Home Office argues that, through their tax and spending, immigrants contribute £2.5 billion more in taxes than they cost in public services, Professor Robert Rowthorn of Cambridge University has shown how this utterly changes depending on what’s included in the calculation. Add the full costs of those services to which they are entitled (NHS treatment, schooling, welfare etc) and immigration incurs a £5.6 billion loss, he pointed out.

A House of Lords report on immigration, also published last year, proved that record levels of immigration are bringing no economic benefit to the country. It stated:

- There is little or no economic benefit to Britain from the present high level of immigration. The immigrants are not needed to fill labour shortages or help fund the state pension for retiring Britons.

- High levels of immigration threaten to price millions of Britons out of the housing market over the next 20 years.

- Government statistics on immigration are “seriously inadequate” and compromise the ability to accurately to set interest rates and allocate £100 billion in public funding.

- Certain groups, including the low-paid, some ethnic minorities and young people seeking to get on the jobs ladder suffer because of competition from immigrants.

- Immigrants have an “important economic impact” on public services with some schools struggling to cope with the rapidly-rising number of children who do not speak English as a first language.

The report says immigration has reached a scale “unprecedented in our history.” It says that the net immigration of non-British persons has trebled from less than 100,000 a year in the early 1990s to more than 300,000 in 2006.

The report contradicted the Government, which has argued that immigration has boosted the economy by £6 billion a year. Ministers have argued that the population may have to rise from 60.6 million to 71 million by 2031 to plug shortages in the labour market.

Just how do immigrants prevent a pensions crisis? Don't immigrants age as well?

Yawn.....Hes not really going to be appointed PM tommorow. :rolleyes: