.. because the real world is far too complex to fit neatly into any theoretical framework..

Like global climate change theory for example.

Like global climate change theory for example.


Exactly. A very good example.

Channel Four's 'Great Global Warming Swindle' programme - which claimed to have gathered a body of scientific evidence that Global warming is not man made - is now being accused of falsifying data by the very scientists who appeared in the programme.

No doubt, those people who hailed this blatant piece of propaganda as the last word on Global warming, will blame it's loss of credibility on an international conspiracy, involving World government's, the Pope and the Bogeyman.


http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article2521677.ece

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=194322&highlight=Global+warming

You've got to love the irony of the environmentalist lobby accusing their detractors of falsifying data.

Even the most extreme greenpeace nutter must surely accept that global warming - if indeed such a thing exists - has been wildly exagerrated.

You've got to love the irony of the environmentalist lobby accusing their detractors of falsifying data.

Even the most extreme greenpeace nutter must surely accept that global warming - if indeed such a thing exists - has been wildly exagerrated.

The accusation doesn't come from the 'Environmentalist Lobby' It comes from a scientist who does not believe humans cause GW, but nontheless objects to fabricated data being credited to him.

By the way, even GW 'skeptic' scientists don't deny Global Warming exists, merely that it is caused by human activity. I think you'll find the only people who deny the existence of global warming at all, are those who don't have a clue what they're talking about.

Whereas the great majority of media comment on GW is that it is a 'fact' which is never challenged, and moreover is lazily blamed for all sorts of things by journalists which a scientist would never do. My problem with that is that scientists seem happy to keep their heads down when this happens.

For example, on a piece on BBC news the other day about coastal erosion in Norfolk, the reporter blithely said that it was "because of global warming". What? No it's not, it's waves undermining cliffs, a natural process that always goes on. Why did no-one challenge this lazy thinking?

Yes - coastal erosion (and deposition) has been going on since there's been land & sea.

But cliffs and Norfolk don't really belong in the same chapter do they? Which is why if sea levels continue to rise due to the melting of polar ice caps (which appears to be a fact) then low lying land on the East coast - Norfolk, the Wash, Lincolnshire, Humber estuary - may disappear under the sea at a rather more rapid rate that currently happens.

Yes - coastal erosion (and deposition) has been going on since there's been land & sea.

But cliffs and Norfolk don't really belong in the same chapter do they? Which is why if sea levels continue to rise due to the melting of polar ice caps (which appears to be a fact) then low lying land on the East coast - Norfolk, the Wash, Lincolnshire, Humber estuary - may disappear under the sea at a rather more rapid rate that currently happens.

Plenty of cliffs in north Norfolk - at Hunstanton for example. The lower lying land behind the patches of higher ground are often below sea level and used to be marsh - they were reclaimed as agricultural land by engineers in the 1700s.

http://www.norfolkbroads.com/guides/area/fens

http://www.waterwaysguides.co.uk/mlc/drainage.htm

... or debacle?!

What global warming/environmental activists are failing to tackle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-T_KvLNdQ&list=FLYTCD5bx0ghPJmY0NmGDjKg&feature=plcp&context=C3273ed6FDOEgsToPDskKeYPovRzuiQyBUnKykQ7ZL

What is surprising about this film is that it states the US started building these monsters in the 90's - I remember Judith Hann on Tomorrow's world reporting about Russian experiments to control the weather either late 70's or early 80's and they dismantled it as it was close to European border and they couldn't control it. Also the time of 'Purple skies' over Canada.