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uncleheed 06-03-2007, 14:24 Anyone else see this last night?
3 cows were slaughtered in front of a live audience.They were then butchered and cooked and fed to said people.
Thought it was well handled,and something all meat eaters should have seen.
(just to add,it was a working abbatoir that carried out the slaughter,and it was done under full inspection)
Beakerzoid 06-03-2007, 14:29 Didn't see it, but have been there and done that myself (visited an abbatoir to see the full process, then had some lovely steak at the end of it all). I also worked for 6 months in a chicken factory, so have seen my fair share of entrails.
I agree every meat eater - indeed everybody - should see it, and understand where the meat comes from. One common thing veggies ask is, "Would you still eat it if you had to slaughter it yourself?" Many wouldn't, but me, I would!
What channel was it on? Gonna look out for a repeat.
Old news though really. Gordon Ramsey did that with his Turkey and Pigs over the last couple of years.
neeeeeeeeeek 06-03-2007, 14:32 It was really long and drawn out and not very good. And tomigth they do exactly the same thing with a Sheep! It's been done at least 3 times before in the last 2 and considerably better.
BasilRathbon 06-03-2007, 14:34 I wish they'd do the same with a chav.
Beakerzoid 06-03-2007, 14:34 Hey, I may like to eat meat, but I draw the line at Chav! If it tastes as bad as it looks......yuk!
Camrat78 06-03-2007, 14:42 I wish they'd do the same with a chav.
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Thought it was well handled,and something all meat eaters should have seen.
Incase it makes them stop eating meat, I doubt it would.
I couldn't watch all of it!
I'm not sure really what the point of the show was, to be honest.
Yes, everyone should see that at least once. If you are going to eat meat, then you should at least know how it got turned from a cow into beef. But the presenter was saying that he wanted to see how many people would be willing to eat the meat at the end and everyone did (apart from the veggies). Everyone said it was humane, and had no problem with what they saw, so I'm not sure what the show was aiming at.
I did miss the first ten minutes though, so maybe that was where the point of it was explained.
Jabberwocky 06-03-2007, 17:40 Sadly I missed it. Ive seen meat slaughtered and Ive ended the life of a rabbit or two for the pot so it doesnt really bother me. I must say though that the meat does taste better when youve killed and prepared it for yourself, I suppose its like growing your own veg, it seems to taste better then other veg doesnt it.
I'm not sure really what the point of the show was, to be honest.
Yes, everyone should see that at least once. If you are going to eat meat, then you should at least know how it got turned from a cow into beef. But the presenter was saying that he wanted to see how many people would be willing to eat the meat at the end and everyone did (apart from the veggies). Everyone said it was humane, and had no problem with what they saw, so I'm not sure what the show was aiming at.
I did miss the first ten minutes though, so maybe that was where the point of it was explained.
maybe to highlite that veggies let animals die in vain, there would have been enough for them but they refused it because it was "wrong" so that meat was wasted, i.e. the veggies let the animal die in vain
I've worked out what my problem with this show is- it's the presenter. He seems to be trying to make the programme seem more than it's not. When he was talking to the vet, looking at the pigs in the holding pen, he commented that some people find pigs the hardest to slaughter, as they are the most human. The government vet looked at him for a moment, and then said "no, it looks liek a pig to me." And that summed it up- he seemed to be trying to turn it into a big deal when really all it is is a pig getting killed so people can eat it.
And everyone was saying that they have seen a small slaughterhouse, but would like to see a larger, supermarket one to see the difference, but as the government vet pointed out, there is an inspector in every slaughterhouse, regardless of the size, and each one has to meet the Government standards or else they are prosecuted, so what's the problem?
Maybe I'm not explaining myself properly here but I still fail to see the point of the show. It's not going to make anyone change their eating habits, or research their meat more, because most people are lazy and don't really care anyway.
NatalieSheff 08-03-2007, 16:27 Anyone else see this last night?
3 cows were slaughtered in front of a live audience.They were then butchered and cooked and fed to said people.
Thought it was well handled,and something all meat eaters should have seen.
(just to add,it was a working abbatoir that carried out the slaughter,and it was done under full inspection)
didnt see it but advert made me laugh-it grossed out most of the people i know-shouldnt eat it!
MuteWitness 08-03-2007, 16:29 And have you seen the size of that chef - I wouldnt eat anything she cooks if you will end up like her!:hihi:
Ive been watching it and found it interesting, I have never seen an animal slaughtered and to be honest it really didnt bother me, although I thought it may, but the process is quick and humane.
One thing I have decided through watching it, is that I will endeavour to try and use my local butchers more as opposed to the supermarket and as the vet said on the night they slaughtered the lambs, why buy New Zealand lamb when we have our own british lamb which is just as good, got to look after our own farming economy not that of a county accross the other side of the world!
Don_Kiddick 08-03-2007, 17:47 I too watched the lambs to the slaughter episode.
I would like to see an identical series made following the Halal method. :)
discodown 08-03-2007, 20:57 there was something in the paper earlier this week about halal being more distressing to the animal. didn't read it all though so i can't say more.
if this encourages people to use their butcher more than the supermarket then its been worthwhile. i personally use a proper butcher to buy meat and refuse to use supermarkets.
dieselbabe 08-03-2007, 20:58 Ive been watching from the start, And i thought it would put me off meat for good. I admit it was a bit of putting when they first started the slaughter and see the animal jerk like it did, i thought it was still alive. But at the end all i saw it was meat. It good to see how it was done and it was done in a humane way and it was quick.
Ive been watching it and found it interesting, I have never seen an animal slaughtered and to be honest it really didnt bother me, although I thought it may, but the process is quick and humane.
One thing I have decided through watching it, is that I will endeavour to try and use my local butchers more as opposed to the supermarket and as the vet said on the night they slaughtered the lambs, why buy New Zealand lamb when we have our own british lamb which is just as good, got to look after our own farming economy not that of a county accross the other side of the world!
I didn't see all of it but I agree that we should try to use our local butcher for our meat. The one near to us actually have their own cows running round their own fields until their time is up, and having tasted their beef it really does make a difference.
there was something in the paper earlier this week about halal being more distressing to the animal. didn't read it all though so i can't say more.
if this encourages people to use their butcher more than the supermarket then its been worthwhile. i personally use a proper butcher to buy meat and refuse to use supermarkets.
i'm under the impression halal is the most humane method. im not sure though.
i'm under the impression halal is the most humane method. im not sure though.
I thought that they didn't stun the animal first for halal meat? or am I wrong?
I'm really glad I watched this. I was a veggie before I got pregnant, not because I dont agree with eating meat but because I was concerned for the animals welfare.
After watching this I have every faith that the animal has a happy life and a pain-free death, so I'd happily eat meat (provided it comes from a small locally run abotoire where I can be sure that animal has had a good life)
The same goes for my milk, cheese and eggs too.
Just think about the death a zebra goes through in the african plains - being chased by a lion....? not pain free, and certainly not stress free!!!!!
Jabberwocky 09-03-2007, 09:32 Well its nice to see a PRO meat thread for a change. Its especially nice to see that the prog has actually encouraged people to eat meat.
I just hope the vegetarians, in particular, the ones who like to try to convert others to their cause take some of this programmes information on board.
discodown 09-03-2007, 19:26 I thought that they didn't stun the animal first for halal meat? or am I wrong?no you're right. although i'm sure someone else will confirm this
no you're right. although i'm sure someone else will confirm this
If its done in the same way be without stunning the animal then it is terrible. How could we condone this act in todays society?
discodown 10-03-2007, 21:41 a fair question. i think it would take someone who actually does it to answer. i've eaten halal meat and i can't taste any difference
MuteWitness 11-03-2007, 15:38 Yes halal is done without the stunning of an animal - they use a sharp knife and then let the animal bleed.
So isn't that just meat with extra cruelty?
Yes halal is done without the stunning of an animal
so is a lot of the slaughtering in "normal" abattoirs, if anything I bet the animal dies quicker from having it's throat accurately cut than being miss-shot with a bolt and thrashing about on the floor while the guys has another go with the gun or being boiled alive like chickens are.
Oh I couldn't watch it, I'd have got too upset!!
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