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Yea, i was just wondering guys, i know alot about sheffields history and storeys of the estates names but i still have'nt a clue why it was named lowedges and can't find anything about it.
So why is LOWEDGES named LOWEDGES?
No clever cloggs please with the normal " BECAUSE IT HAS LOW HEDGES HAHAHA"
cheers. :suspect:
BasilRathbon 06-03-2007, 10:03 In Georgian times the estate was ruled by a guy called Ged Sowel. When he died they named the place after an anagram of his name.
look who posted it. That should answer your question!
I've always though the name was a warning. Like 'Beware! Low Edges'
Or maybe it's a threat?
Where did all the intelligent people go?
Im asking a question, whats with all the smart arse replys.
djscottk 06-03-2007, 11:14 http://www.joskingston.org/LDEN/CHAP1.html
u might find the answer there.
no guarantees, i cant be ar*ed reading it all but, its at least relevant to ur question. :hihi:
Henrietta 06-03-2007, 11:51 Well, it is on the lower edges of Sheffield :confused:
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crookesey 06-03-2007, 12:13 I wonder if it's anything to do with when there was an airfield in the area circa 1905, low hedges just a thought.
LaceCurtains 06-03-2007, 12:27 I used to live up there in the row of old houses next to the farmhouse at the bottom and was told that the houses took their name from the farm. The addresses for the houses was just no.1,2,3,4,5, etc. 'Lowedges', Chesterfield Road South. Apparently the estate subsequently took the name from that row of houses.
Intresting, it was just a farm at one point, loads of land. A spitfire landed in a field near there, the pub was named shelby spitfire
BasilRathbon 06-03-2007, 14:06 Okay, I admit the stuff about Ged Sowel was actually made up.
The truth is that Lowedges was in Saxon times known as "Geeswold", meaning Hill Of The Geese. However, the Doomsday Book showed there was already a village of this name in East Yorkshire, so the local people decided they would instead make an anagram of that name and thus came up with "Lowedges".
Have you any prove my good man :)
Or is it just hear say??
BasilRathbon 06-03-2007, 14:19 No, it's true. I know it's not hear say because they were a band formed from a singing talent show.
Classic Rock 06-03-2007, 14:46 And mores to the point, what possessed Richard Hawley to write an album with this title???? Could think of more inspiring things...
Yea, i was just wondering guys, i know alot about sheffields history and storeys of the estates names but i still have'nt a clue why it was named lowedges and can't find anything about it.
So why is LOWEDGES named LOWEDGES?
No clever cloggs please with the normal " BECAUSE IT HAS LOW HEDGES HAHAHA"
cheers. :suspect:
From "Street Names Of Sheffield" by Peter Harvey:-
'A 28-acre farm in the area was run by a John Smith in the 1840's and had three fields called Bate Low Edge, Lower Bate Low Edge and Moor Low Edge.
The word low was commonly used in North Derbyshire to mean hill - the fields on the edge of the hill.'
Exciting explanation eh..........?!
LaceCurtains 06-03-2007, 15:27 Is this where Batemoor got its name from then? (i.e. across the dual carriageway which wouldn't have been there then).
From "Street Names Of Sheffield" by Peter Harvey:-
'A 28-acre farm in the area was run by a John Smith in the 1840's and had three fields called Bate Low Edge, Lower Bate Low Edge and Moor Low Edge.
The word low was commonly used in North Derbyshire to mean hill - the fields on the edge of the hill.'
Exciting explanation eh..........?!
Describes the area perfectly I think.
Is this where Batemoor got its name from then? (i.e. across the dual carriageway which wouldn't have been there then).
Boringly enough, it means a moor belonging to a bloke called Roger Bate who supposedly lived in the area in the 14th Century.
thanks for your input basil, but batemoor is a lovely place.
Intresting, it was just a farm at one point, loads of land. A spitfire landed in a field near there, the pub was named shelby spitfire
Are you sure it's not the Shepley Spitfire at Totley.
Yea that one CBR, its not that far away, just done the hill from bradway. A plane crashed there right??
Are you sure it's not the Shepley Spitfire at Totley.
thats what i was thinking
The field goes around the golfcourse from lowedges and goes on behind the the shelby spitfire. It was all fields back then.
Yea that one CBR, its not that far away, just done the hill from bradway. A plane crashed there right??
Don't know about a plane crash , but it's at the bottom of Mickley lane , top food in there .
Waltheof 06-03-2007, 21:26 Joking aside, the derivation of Lowedges from the element low meaning a hill or ridge is correct. It is a linguistic accident that the placename now coincides with a word relating to lack of altitude. It can be traced back to Old English hleah = hill or high place. This is why there are hills in Derbyshire called Low, as in Arbor Low, Foolow etc.
Asfor bungalow, that someone was asking about, nothing to do with low, it's a word borrowed from India (Hindi, I think).
Sorry to be pedantic but these questions should be amswered seriously.
S8 Blade 06-03-2007, 21:50 ...and will the bus companies learn that it's "Lowedges" and not "Low Edges" :)
hagardriley 06-03-2007, 23:26 I used to live up there in the row of old houses next to the farmhouse at the bottom and was told that the houses took their name from the farm. The addresses for the houses was just no.1,2,3,4,5, etc. 'Lowedges', Chesterfield Road South. Apparently the estate subsequently took the name from that row of houses.
This is actually spot on. The houses in question are those on the dual carriageway coming up to the end of Lowedges Road.
CorkerSWFC 07-03-2007, 10:57 Yea, i was just wondering guys, i know alot about sheffields history and storeys of the estates names but i still have'nt a clue why it was named lowedges and can't find anything about it.
So why is LOWEDGES named LOWEDGES?
No clever cloggs please with the normal " BECAUSE IT HAS LOW HEDGES HAHAHA"
cheers. :suspect:
well we used to live on toppham way not too long back, deep in the heart of a very edgey low estate lol
Asfor bungalow, that someone was asking about, nothing to do with low, it's a word borrowed from India (Hindi, I think)..
Bungalow derives from a Hindi word meaning *Bengali*...house in the Bengal style.
In India bungalow refers to any single family unit (ie a house) as opposed to an apartment building.
BasilRathbon 07-03-2007, 11:36 I used to call an ex-girlfriend "Bungalow" because she had nowt upstairs......
claire1979 07-03-2007, 14:44 not directly related to the post but..
Greenhill had a hall on Greenhill main road, it is unclear when it was built but an arch suggests a date of 1550, scratched on the window panes were names and dates, the oldest being 1614 John Lupton. Jerome Blythe of the Norton family bought it in 1560 for his daughter Frances and her husband Thurston Kirke, They had 9 children the oldest was called Gervase.
John Lupton owned the building later.
In 1948 the building and 197 acres of land was bought for £31,000 by the Sheffield corporation who then built the surrounding estate, thats where the names lupton and gervase comes from! :thumbsup:
haha, niceone, some good history coming out here, what about the castle in greenhill village?
I used a visit a ol gent at the top of cobnar road who was very good on local history , he always said it was due to a big house in the area that had low hedges around the estate when it was common to have big thick highones.
S8 Blade 07-03-2007, 17:48 I have lived on Lowedges for 20yrs and not once have I heard about a window being put through on a bus - nor on Greenhill - and at least once a week?
One of my neighbours is a bus driver and he certainly never hears anything! Last incident I recall with a bus on Lowedges was when someone was stabbed/murdered as he got off the bus at Shop-On-End (near Chesterfield Rd) and that was how many years ago
I have lived on Lowedges for 20yrs and not once have I heard about a window being put through on a bus - nor on Greenhill - and at least once a week?
One of my neighbours is a bus driver and he certainly never hears anything!
Im always getting told by a number of Drivers, the driver next door might be on the opposit shift to the drivers where I get my souce from, Im not scare mongering just putting down what infomation is passed on to me on a regular basis.:thumbsup:
S8 Blade 07-03-2007, 20:20 Im always getting told by a number of Drivers, the driver next door might be on the opposit shift to the drivers where I get my souce from, Im not scare mongering just putting down what infomation is passed on to me on a regular basis.:thumbsup:
well if they do - they're never seen by the public, nor by myself
tinkabel 07-03-2007, 22:04 What have you been missing:o
The prime locations where a bus windows are put though are:
Lowedges Road JCT with Lupton Road ( near the phone box )
Lowedges Bus Turning Circle ( Co-op )
Lowedges Road JCT with Chesterfield Road ( side of newsagents )
It is normal that 1 or 2 windows are smashed every week, however this is not as bad as the prestent situation at Greenhill Shop :help:
What aload of rubbish, nothing is thrown at the bus's. Greenhill shops are full of lads with nothing to do, there harmless, dont be so silly.
I lived near the 'turning circle' and never heard anything about it, i also caught buses daily and never had any trouble with things been thrown at the buses except snowballs. I think perhaps your just one of them people that likes to slag places off. Lowedges wasn't a bad place to live, i loved my time on there and would move back in a heartbeat if i could.
tinkabel 07-03-2007, 22:05 well if they do - they're never seen by the public, nor by myself
i second that.
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