Following the call to ban smoking in council houses I would like to suggest a more usefull ban.

Ban dogs in all public parks, especially ones with playing fields.

I'm suggesting this after sitting outside the cafe in Endcliffe park and watching the dog owners allow their dogs to use the field opposite as a toilet when not 100 yeards away a group of kids were playing football.

To be fare one woman did clean-up after her dog but the rest just pretended they couldn't see what was happening in a similar way to how they don't see the "dogs must be kept on a lead" signs.

I have nothing against dogs by the way.

I understand your upset but it really I don't see why dogs should have their health put at risk because they are unable to excercise through the ban.

This has been spoken about before in relation to dangerous dogs...it is down to irresponsible ownership.
I have witnessed it myself in Hillsborough park. A young women with a dog trying to ignore the fact it was doing it's business next to the pond...it wasn't fun pointing out to her that she should clean up after it, wasn't very pleasant in response like.

The council provide dog litter bins in most parks now and a box of nappy bags for £1 isn't much to take out extra with you when you take pooch waling.

Personally I think there should be better legislation brought in to police who gets to own the dogs rather than punishing the dogs for their human owners shortcomings.

moon

Most of the owners drive to the park, so they could carry on driving and go to Riverlin or up to the top part of Endcliffe park where it's more "wild" there are less people and no playing fields.

well I don't drive, but then I do pick up after my dog....not that he has been brave enough to do it outside his territory yet.

I saw someone the other night drive their dog up rivelin near the oaks ...but personally I find it just as irresponsible and disgusting to not clean up after your dog on a nature trail as I would anywhere else.
If you stand in it you still have to mess about cleaning your shoe if you manage to notice it...if not you are bringing it home.

Moon

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
I saw someone the other night drive their dog up rivelin near the oaks ...but personally I find it just as irresponsible and disgusting to not clean up after your dog on a nature trail as I would anywhere else.
If you stand in it you still have to mess about cleaning your shoe if you manage to notice it...if not you are bringing it home.

Moon

Your right there, I was thinking there is less chance of someone diving into it while playing footie.

Originally posted by nick2


I'm suggesting this after sitting outside the cafe in Endcliffe park and watching the dog owners allow their dogs to use the field opposite as a toilet when not 100 yeards away a group of kids were playing football.

So in your rush to be the responsible citizen did you just sit there or did you actually mention the fine that goes along with dog fouling?

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
So in your rush to be the responsible citizen did you just sit there or did you actually mention the fine that goes along with dog fouling?

I did shout "are you going to clean that up ?" to one guy, but he just got temporary deafness.

Next time I will beat them to the ground and rub their nose in it.

Originally posted by nick2
I did shout "are you going to clean that up ?" to one guy, but he just got temporary deafness.

Next time I will beat them to the ground and rub their nose in it.

Nice one! :gag:

So if people like yourself are reluctant to do a great deal about the existing fine...what hope does a ban have? How is this ban going to be policed if they cannot even police the dog fouling one?

Moon

sad moment: look at my post count....1966 *cough*:loopy:

The ban would be fairly easy to police, if you are in the park with a dog, you get fined. Easy.

obviously it isn't that easy otherwise every single person who you saw who did not pick up after their dog would have recieved the fine.

On the way to my sons school the pavement is littered with ....ya know. The kids have to near step off the pavement to avoid. Now someone round there think it is great to let their dog go all over the street...where is the policing of it on the streets.

This isn't just a simple case of banning and fines it is a case of personal responsibility. Responsibility of people and their dogs and responsibility of people like yourself to report abuses of our health.

Moon

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
This isn't just a simple case of banning and fines it is a case of personal responsibility.


Yeah, I guess if they knew someone who had lost their sight from cathing that bacteria thing then they would be more responsible, until then it's just not their problem.

Originally posted by nick2
The ban would be fairly easy to police, if you are in the park with a dog, you get fined. Easy.

Ban, ban, ban... how terribly Blairite. As if creating yet another ban represents a solution to a problem. Your suggested sticky plaster is a lovely idea in a Daily Mail demi monde, and a stupid, ignorant one in the real world. Some dog owners live in towns, and parks are for everyone, including the hounds themselves.

Slowly but surely, education gets through to people. Not everyone admittedly, but as the minority of urban dog owners who leave their pets' output unbagged are, I suspect, the most ignorant, how's about we swap those little, ignorable signs with a doggie, a doodoo and a red cross for a more direct media presence? I propose real-world marketing of the anti-cack message - a set of big posters saying "Oi! D*ckwit! Pick up your poochie's poopies or kids will all go blind! And the parents will stuff sh*t down your shirt! Then burn your house!"

Eventually the message gets through. Banning just allows berks like you to walk away whistling in a self-delusory , "job done" kind of way. But don't hold your head too high cos you'll miss the ground, step in some excrement left on the pavement by a dog that couldn't go in the park... that the owner left there in protest at your ban.

LOL - Calm down dear.

what next, ban people from having obese pets?

sometimes i wonder if people can actually think about the consequences of an action. It's all short termism or whatever makes life easier for you.

Originally posted by nick2
The ban would be fairly easy to police, if you are in the park with a dog, you get fined. Easy.

Originally posted by Cyclone
what next, ban people from having obese pets?

sometimes i wonder if people can actually think about the consequences of an action. It's all short termism or whatever makes life easier for you.

It doesn't make my life easier or harder, I was thinking it would be a good idea to help stop the diseases it spreads if dogs were banned from parks that have playing fields. If you are happy to live with the diseases and trying to play footie while dodging piles of dog turd, then thats fine, let them carry on crapping everywhere.
In fact why not allow them in restaurants, shops and pubs too so they can do it there, as the ban on dogs in shops must also be very unfair too them?

Originally posted by joyphil
Ban, ban, ban... how terribly Blairite. As if creating yet another ban represents a solution to a problem. Your suggested sticky plaster is a lovely idea in a Daily Mail demi monde, and a stupid, ignorant one in the real world. Some dog owners live in towns, and parks are for everyone, including the hounds themselves.

Slowly but surely, education gets through to people. Not everyone admittedly, but as the minority of urban dog owners who leave their pets' output unbagged are, I suspect, the most ignorant, how's about we swap those little, ignorable signs with a doggie, a doodoo and a red cross for a more direct media presence? I propose real-world marketing of the anti-cack message - a set of big posters saying "Oi! D*ckwit! Pick up your poochie's poopies or kids will all go blind! And the parents will stuff sh*t down your shirt! Then burn your house!"

Eventually the message gets through. Banning just allows berks like you to walk away whistling in a self-delusory , "job done" kind of way. But don't hold your head too high cos you'll miss the ground, step in some excrement left on the pavement by a dog that couldn't go in the park... that the owner left there in protest at your ban.

Brilliant I was looking for the right words.

Nick! next time go right up to dog owner and to his/her face, tell them to be more responsible and pick their dog's poo up.
I assure you they will go red in the face and do just that, while saying I usually do, I just missed that one.

It is a nasty thing, espescially when you have a handfull of your own dog's poo and you step in someone elses.
But it's a such a simple thing to sort out without flying off the handle and banning dogs from seeing the light of day.

Originally posted by Modesty
Brilliant I was looking for the right words.

Nick! next time go right up to dog owner and to his/her face, tell them to be more responsible and pick their dog's poo up.
I assure you they will go red in the face and do just that, while saying I usually do, I just missed that one.

It is a nasty thing, espescially when you have a handfull of your own dog's poo and you step in someone elses.
But it's a such a simple thing to sort out without flying off the handle and banning dogs from seeing the light of day.

If I went up to someone and had a go at them I would probably get arrested for assault or something.

Originally posted by nick2
If I went up to someone and had a go at them I would probably get arrested for assault or something.

I did'nt say have a go, just a polite "do you mind being more resposible and disposing of your dog mess please" would work.

it makes your life easier, as you no longer have to worry about cleaning your shoe.

it makes the dog owners life a hell of a lot harder as they have to find somewhere else to walk their dog. Being fasceious about other places where dogs aren't allowed doesn't make your point any cleverer.

Originally posted by nick2
It doesn't make my life easier or harder, I was thinking it would be a good idea to help stop the diseases it spreads if dogs were banned from parks that have playing fields. If you are happy to live with the diseases and trying to play footie while dodging piles of dog turd, then thats fine, let them carry on crapping everywhere.
In fact why not allow them in restaurants, shops and pubs too so they can do it there, as the ban on dogs in shops must also be very unfair too them?

Originally posted by Cyclone
it makes your life easier, as you no longer have to worry about cleaning your shoe.

it makes the dog owners life a hell of a lot harder as they have to find somewhere else to walk their dog. Being fasceious about other places where dogs aren't allowed doesn't make your point any cleverer.

I don't get it, do you think it's better that people contract diseases that could blind them while playing in the park than dog owners be asked to not take their dogs into certain parks, or perhaps just keep them in certain areas within the park ?

Would you agree to a fence around playing fields and areas where children play so dogs can't crap all over them, or is that too restrictive ?

You could always pick the droppings up and follow the offender home and post it through their letter box.

My sister always takes carrier bags out with her and collects her dog's droppings to dispose of appropriately. I think it is over the top to suggest banning dogs from parks. You might be better off suggesting that people should only be allowed to own a dog if they are responsible enough. Bring back dog licenses.

I want to take back my suggestion of a complete ban and replace it with a suggestion of fancing off certain areas of parks so dogs can't get in.

Better ?

Originally posted by nick2
I want to take back my suggestion of a complete ban and replace it with a suggestion of fancing off certain areas of parks so dogs can't get in.

Better ?

Maybe. But I think they already do, don't they?

much more sensible and realistic.

Originally posted by Patchy
Maybe. But I think they already do, don't they?

Yes they do, we take our girls to 3 parks mainly.
Lodge Moor new estate, Lodge moor spider park and one in Keswick Cumbria and all 3 are fenced off.
I don't think I'm wrong in saying that most childrens area's in the Uk are fenced off.

However an open sports field is a different story.
Again letting owners know it's wrong, at the scene of the crime and getting councils to place dog bins around the fields will get it sorted.

It's not so long ago that it was the norm to see dog's roaming like cat's.
Today it's very odd to see a dog on it's own in our streets.
Thing's do change.

Now if you want to start a rant about Cat's entering my private garden and ****ting in my heathers, you're on.;)

Originally posted by Modesty
Now if you want to start a rant about Cat's entering my private garden and ****ting in my heathers, you're on.;)

I get that too, but aparently putting poison down is wrong.

In the parks in the cities and towns of sweden, there is always at least one Dog Latrine, where dogs can run about in a fenced off area and poop to their heart's content, and the owner then uses the provided scoop to put it in the bins provided.

After a short time dogs get habituated to the "no crapping outside the latrine" rule and keep it in until they get there.

This system works well, and the streets are pleasantly free of dog crap.

I approached someone in Meersbrook park for letting their alsatian off the lead and allowing it to crap freely without scooping it - all I got was a blank look, and a shrug. Happily I had nappy bags with me and pointedly scooped it for him.

The problem with enforcing the fine for not scooping is that it must be witnessed by environmental enforcement officers or other authority, so by the time you have stepped in it, it's too late.

DNA can be reliably extracted from dog excrement to give a good match on the creature that laid the little turd.

Using solid-state dna sequencing, combined with dog licencing, chipping and DNA profiling would allow the "authorities" to sample dog excrement, identify the dog and owner, and return the little parcel, registered post, to their door (and a fine of course).

Failing that, I would be very happy to spend a day or two each month in Meersbrook, Endclife, Milhouses or Graves park, slapping fines on the inconsiderate dog owners that are somehow above scooping up their animal's excrement.

Originally posted by nick2
LOL - Calm down dear.

Okay duckie. Just took the dog for a good long romp in Graves Park, and now I feel loads better... Incidentally, the rustle of plastic bags is one of the things that gets the little critter all fired up because he guesses it's time to go out. It's not difficult to pick up after him, as long as he hasn't had a curry the night before. Or been to the pub. Or both, God forbid. As it happens he has a fondness for the Sheaf View and Thai food, the cheeky little internationalist gourmet scamp.

Mind you, the person who comes up with a suspendable plastic bag-based doggie dung hamper in the style of rag and bone men's horses, will make a fortune! James Dyson, why did you spend so long mucking about (as it were) with frivolities such as ball-wheeled green plastic barrows and see-thru, bagless vacuum cleaners? Your public was deserted in its hour of need, and now look what a mess it has quite literally got itself into. Ho hum.

Originally posted by Modesty

Now if you want to start a rant about Cat's entering my private garden and ****ting in my heathers, you're on.;)

But what are you doing growing heathers in captivity ?

If they were growing free out on the moors they wouldn't have cats to put up with...just sheep and rabbits and grouse and even wallabies,- so I've heard :suspect:

why not just have sepearte areas? one for where the kids can play football and another where the dogs can run around?

Like they do with the playgrounds, fence them off so dogs can't wander in. If the kids then go and run around in this area no dog poop to worry about!


Also increase the number of poo bins for the dogs and more visible posters warning about the fines that go with not cleaning up

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
[B]Using solid-state dna sequencing, combined with dog licencsing, chipping and DNA profiling would allow the "authorities" to sample dog exrcrement, identify the dog and owner, and return the little parcel, registered post, to their door (and a fine of course).


That is utter, utter genius. The technology's all there, it could save the GPO from the parlous financial state it has got into, and would turn us into the trickest country on God's earth. In fact, the possibilities are endless. Even discarded KFC wrappers, chuddie gum and fag butts could be returned to their rightful owner. Just imagine it - the doorbell rings and you scamper excitedly downstairs thinking those bedroom toys you bought off Ebay have arrived. You sign for the parcel and run upstairs to open it in front of the wife. Her little eyes are all agleam as you take a knife to the parcel tape. Imagine her happy, expectant face falling as you unwrap some canine night soil, a used prophylactic and a Royals butt with lipstick on it. Oh, and a bill for a monkey or a court summons. Your wife doesn't smoke and you're in real trouble now, boy. No more trips to the park for you.

There's a film in there somewhere. Kinda pitchable as Minority Report meets Viz' The Bottom Inspectors. "I gotta stain, sir. And it's traceable!" Beautiful, I'm sure you agree.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
In the parks in the cities and towns of sweden, there is always at least one Dog Latrine, where dogs can run about in a fenced off area and poop to their heart's content, and the owner then uses the provided scoop to put it in the bins provided.

After a short time dogs get habituated to the "no crapping outside the latrine" rule and keep it in until they get there.



I like that idea.

how about banning djs:clap: :o :clap:

I think what is needed is to educate the owners of the potential risks to their and everyone elses health if they dont clean up after their animal.
Then after a short period you can bring in the fines and what have you,I woul'd put VERY large signs up around all the parks telling them what will happen to their health and wallets if they dont act responsibly.
I see it all the time in my park ,people who wont go in to the dogy area but wander all over until the animal has done it buisness,they really **** me off.

Originally posted by panda79
how about banning djs:clap: :o :clap:

Please, no! We'd be reduced to wearing tuxedos, and this isn't quite America yet. What a terrible thought.

Never mind banning - what about brininging back the dog licence? If people had to think or perhpas even do a dog awareness course before they got a mutt, perhaps the problem wouldn't be there.
Interesting everyone mentions the messs, but what about attacks. I walk and jog through N Sheffield's parks, and having been charged at once, I now carry a extendable walking pole which racks like a police baton. Good job - two weeks ago I was charged by a Rhodesian Ridgeback (big ugly dog with inbuilt atitude) out came the stick, waved it a bit. Off he went.
Similar incident took place in Peak near LAdybower. Small dog. no stick, but hefty ol winter mountain boots.
Dogs are not cute cuddly four legged anhtropomorphs but are pack predators and their heads are accoprdingly in a bit of a mess when it comes to being owned by humans.
I don't personally understand the need for pets. But no matter.
oink oink.

Originally posted by ThePiglit

I don't personally understand the need for pets. But no matter.
oink oink.

i own a dog, i have always cleaned up after my dog and always will all dog owners shouldn`t be tarred with the same brush!
Now about not seeing the point of keeping a dog, dogs are very friendly when taught properly,great company and they are loyal to the core. In recent years one of my dogs has saved me from a mugging and also stopped my pals car and a neighbours car from being pinched by roving chavs there are many many advantages of owning a dog so don`t slag it off until you`ve tried it as you have no idea what you`re talking about

Originally posted by panda79
how about banning djs:clap: :o :clap:


esp dance, they must be ripping you off. one or two notes repeated is not music!

Dog licences aren't a bad idea - mine's got a passport and amicrochip, bless 'im. Mind you, I think he's a bit thick to achieve a licence. Is the test hard?

He'd love you though, jogging playfully around the park waving a big stick at him. That's what he makes me do every day...

Up until recently, it has been difficult to get dog bins put where you need them, due to the Council having only a limited budget for them, and not having to commit to empty any bought by community groups.

HOWEVER A change in policy now means that if a local group can afford to get a dog bin installed, the Council WILL EMPTY them. So get out there and get your local park/green space/ common a bin.

Also, if you are tired of seeing dog cr8p all over the place, it's down to every one of us to make people who don't clean up after their dogs feel like social pariahs...don't just stand there and shake your head - say something to them, offer them a bag. (DON'T be confrontational, however, or hang around to get in a row - guilty people get defensive and angry and unreasonable, take it from someone who used to confront people about this as part of my job...and an angry owner can also mean an angry dog!). There comes a point when it is easier to clean up after your dog than to put up with constant comments on your bad behaviour.
Fines: If you are aware of a certain dog fouling a certain area on a regular basis (with owner present) phone the Council and ask for the Ranger team for your area, or your local Street Rangers, and let them know...they are the ones who are trained and equipped to deal with pepetrators and hand out fines. But they need your help to enforce the fines...there are more of you out there covering a wider area than they ever could.

Banning dogs from parks is a stupid idea, but having defined dog walking and dog latrine areas is a good idea. I'm always pleased by how well it works on camping sites and in some country parks.

If you need info about local groups in your area, I can try to help.

Cosy

PS.. Greybeard: if Modesty continues to grow Heathers in the garden (which need peat-based compost to survive) there won't be a Peak District left for the heathers to roam free in soon.
Sorry, off topic but BIG BIG issue with me!

Originally posted by cosywolf
PS.. Greybeard: if Modesty continues to grow Heathers in the garden (which need peat-based compost to survive) there won't be a Peak District left for the heathers to roam free in soon.
Sorry, off topic but BIG BIG issue with me!

Sorry have to defend my self.

I live on the Hallam moors on the border of the Peak district and about 20 mins walk from Stanedge edge.

So this is why I choose Heathers, as it's their natural habitat.

Other plants in my garden also reflect the surroundings in which I live.

Is that ok?:P

Dog mess? how about picking it up for them (I'm always armed with bags) and saying 'scuse me. you dropped something'. Place the offending article sans bag into their hand.

Cat cr*p? How come we hear so much about dog mess blindness, but nothing about the diseases that cat sh*t conveys? (yes there are some, but I'll have to re-research that one) Kids aren't safe in their own garden. 'Oh but a cat is a wild animal', well fine, it's not a pet. How many pedigree cats do you see roaming the neighbourhood? Persian? Siamese? No? Thought not!

Dog excercise areas? why are they too small for big dogs?

What happened to Park Wardens? Bring them back.

Originally posted by Modesty
Sorry have to defend my self.

I live on the Hallam moors on the border of the Peak district and about 20 mins walk from Stanedge edge.

So this is why I choose Heathers, as it's their natural habitat.

Other plants in my garden also reflect the surroundings in which I live.

Is that ok?:P

I bet you would have trouble growing anything other than heather up there.

Originally posted by nick2
Following the call to ban smoking in council houses I would like to suggest a more usefull ban.


I have a better idea for a ban.

Ban people from thinking up rediculous things to ban.

My god.

If we all banned just one thing that we didn't like others doing, we'd all be doing nothing!

I used to rub the dogs nose in it, but he just returned the favour rubbing his nose on the settee...

Not as stupid as you think.

I had him put down.

Fairy snuffles, Modesty. Sorry to tar you with the same brush as all the other g~ts who can't be bothered using peat free, lol. I stand rebuked:blush:
Cosy:D

Originally posted by Modesty
Sorry have to defend my self.

I live on the Hallam moors on the border of the Peak district and about 20 mins walk from Stanedge edge.

So this is why I choose Heathers, as it's their natural habitat.

Other plants in my garden also reflect the surroundings in which I live.

Is that ok?:P

Another irresponsible habit some dog owners have is to take their dogs out unleashed. Near me there are three Terrier owners who daily walk their dogs around the block or up and down the street, not only do they poop en route outside someone else's house but as one of these dogs proved, they're also a threat to drivers. One of these Yorkies ran across a busy road in front of a car yet the owners still persist in walking it unleashed.

dogs dont usally crap in the middle of fields:loopy: ?! i have owned dogs all my life not one has ever done it in the middle of a field, they prefer to hide it away in an edgeing!!
and i think that the idea of a ban is STUPIDITY at its best! :rant:
good owners take there dogs to training and carry poop bags to clean up!
its the few that dont need to be fined, i blame the council for not putting dog wardons out to do this! i know the culprits in my park but who do you tell?

and it makes me sick :mad: when people give the responsible owners in the same label as bad owners!!!

Following the call to ban smoking in council houses I would like to suggest a more usefull ban.

Ban dogs in all public parks, especially ones with playing fields.

I'm suggesting this after sitting outside the cafe in Endcliffe park and watching the dog owners allow their dogs to use the field opposite as a toilet when not 100 yeards away a group of kids were playing football.

To be fare one woman did clean-up after her dog but the rest just pretended they couldn't see what was happening in a similar way to how they don't see the "dogs must be kept on a lead" signs.

I have nothing against dogs by the way.
What a fantastic idea!! It's amazing that none of the dog owners you speak to ever confess to leaving the sh*t where it was laid. If all were telling the truth there wouldn't be a problem. It's also noticeable that the darker colder months yield more of the stuff on the streets as owners are too lazy or nesh to take pooch for a jolly good ramble in the country.

Yes I agree why should dog be banned from defecating in public parks ?
They have a right as much as anybody else to exist and keep their owners compnay.

If a child should pick up the faeces and eat it and get toxicara or toxoplasmosis and go blind well then thats the parents fault for leaving their little brats run around unsupervised and off their leads and getting into all sorts of mischief.

Yes I agree why should dog be banned from defecating in public parks ?
They have a right as much as anybody else to exist and keep their owners compnay.

If a child should pick up the faeces and eat it and get toxicara or toxoplasmosis and go blind well then thats the parents fault for leaving their little brats run around unsupervised and off their leads and getting into all sorts of mischief.

And there lies the problem, too many people are more concerned about the welfare of animals than human beings.:loopy:

If dogs were banned in parks, it wouldn't make them stop pooping where you could stand in it, they'd just do it on the pavement outside your house! More money is needed to pay for more dog bins. I have often seen people pick up their dogs mess if the bin is nearby but the same people leave it if they aren't near the bin :huh:

The parks aren't safe for kids these days anyway, lets make the parks safe! Ban dogs because SOME owners don't clean up after them. Ban bad parents who let their children push other children about and not say a word even when picked on child gets hurt. Ban all drinks in parks, there are loads of smashed up bottles young kiddies can cut themselves on. Ban all bags and packets being allowed in the parks, one slip on a carrier bag can cause some poor child a nasty injury (no really). No chewing gum allowed, they only spit it on the floor then you have to trail their germs all the way home. No writing articles allowed. They only draw on the equipment and then break the pens up leaving sharp pieces of plastic lying around on the floor. No balls allowed. Lost count of how many ripped up pieces of or popped balls I've seen dumped in the parks, what if a toddler fancied taking a bite.

I think the key here is to find more people willing to speak up to those not treating the parks with respect and congratulate those who do. It shouldn't be about banning certain things but having more consequences for those who choose not to abide by the rules. There are too many people willing to sit and moan about it and sit on their backsides not doing anything about it. At the end of the day if you want something bad enough you have to make it happen, moaning about it doesn't make miracles happen.

There used to be voluntary wardens somewhere (saw it on tele) who went out with little red flags and plonked them in parks wherever there was a pile of excrement. All of a sudden the park with kiddies running around would be littered with these flags. It got the message across. I'd love to do something similar.

Although the amount of c**p on pavements seems to have declined considerably. Getting that off the wheels of the buggy used to be a particularly unpleasant experience.

Yeah, I guess if they knew someone who had lost their sight from cathing that bacteria thing then they would be more responsible, until then it's just not their problem.

How common is that, I don't remember ever seeing it make the news...

like others on here I am a dog-owner of years standing. an dlike N and FF etc, I am a RESPONSIBLE owner.

My dog either poops on my own, enclosed, garden, where I can use nappy/scoopy sacks to clear it up, or, if he gets caught short on a walkies, his *coff* deposit is cleaned up by me, with the numerous "poopy sacks" I have, stuffed in my handbag for just such an eventuality. a pack of 300 nappy sacks wich are ideal for the task cost a quid from poundland/ poindstores. so what is the excuse (Apart from sheer pig-ignorance and laziness) for owners NOT to cleare their dog's mess up?

I have said this on a previous thread, ranting about dog-mess that's not cleared up by owners.

I use a wheelchair. If *I* can clean MY dog's Shi*e up, and dispose of it properly, from my wheelchair, then any/everyone can do so - QED.

I despise dog owners who leave their dog's "doos" in the street/ on the playing field and don't clean up.

nearly everyone has mobile/camera phones now, tell them if they don't use the doggy poo bin, you will take the pic to the nearest station or better still put it on the internet

Following the call to ban smoking in council houses I would like to suggest a more usefull ban.

Ban dogs in all public parks, especially ones with playing fields.

I'm suggesting this after sitting outside the cafe in Endcliffe park and watching the dog owners allow their dogs to use the field opposite as a toilet when not 100 yeards away a group of kids were playing football.

To be fare one woman did clean-up after her dog but the rest just pretended they couldn't see what was happening in a similar way to how they don't see the "dogs must be kept on a lead" signs.

I have nothing against dogs by the way.



public park - means public.
the dog owners pay council tax so have the same rights as others.
why not ban children, scuffing the grass,scratching the paintwork on the swings and leaving litter all over the place.

Where are these trendy cosmopolitan parks you lot frequent ?
I can just imagine walking up to some ruffian in Parson Cross park who's Akita has just layed a kilo of cable on the footie field and asking him to pick it up.
I would be picking bits of teeth up with broken fingers.

public park - means public.
the dog owners pay council tax so have the same rights as others.
why not ban children, scuffing the grass,scratching the paintwork on the swings and leaving litter all over the place.

lol should allow kids to foul the park then!!

wait 'til their teenagers & they will do.

What gives any person more rights to be on a public field than any dog?

ive got a great idea BAN KIDS!!!! it would be lovely no such things as ASBOS or CURFEWS....... just think the crime rate would reduce greatly too. :hihi:

Its not the dogs fault for defacating, it's the owners for not picking it up, ever thought the dog may be embarrassed by it's lazy owner :hihi:

At least dogs don't drop litter, graffiti everywhere, vandalise stuff :rant: :rant:

Following the call to ban smoking in council houses I would like to suggest a more usefull ban.

Ban dogs in all public parks, especially ones with playing fields.

I'm suggesting this after sitting outside the cafe in Endcliffe park and watching the dog owners allow their dogs to use the field opposite as a toilet when not 100 yeards away a group of kids were playing football.I take my dog in both Millhouses and Greaves park and don't see a problem with doing so. He's well behaved and doesn't bother anyone and I or my partner always pick up his poo with a bag or similar before depositing it in one of the dog poo bins.

My dogs never to my knowledge poo'd in the middle of a field or near where kids play, he always likes to go in quiet places and these are normally less populated with people. Regardless of that, the poo's on the floor for about a minute before it's picked up and disposed of.

I think banning everyone from taking their dogs in to public parks because of some dog owners, not all, being irresponsible would be unfair. My dog enjoys the park and I enjoy walking with him through it, we don't cause anyone any problems and I think it would make more sense to tackle the people not picking up the poo instead of a blanket ban covering all dog owners that also punishes us owners following the rules.

I don't like people chucking litter in public places but I am not calling for a ban on eating in public places. I have passed the school kids on Abbeydale Road before and watched as they've thrown chip wrappers on the floor, further up the road more kids were putting them in the bin, would it be fair to the others if a law was passed making it illegal to eat chips in a public place?

At least dogs don't drop vandalise stuff :rant: :rant:Not quite true, mine ate half of our Pumpkin Latern that we made for Halloween while we were out and left the other half across the floor in bits :(

Not quite true, mine ate half of our Pumpkin Latern that we made for Halloween while we were out and left the other half across the floor in bits :(

Okay I stand corrected :hihi: Ever seen a dog graffitying?:suspect:

Not quite true, mine ate half of our Pumpkin Latern that we made for Halloween while we were out and left the other half across the floor in bits :(

wouldnt like to have sat next to him afterwards bet he made some horrid smells. :hihi:

In New York when they brought in legislation about picking up after your dog, EVERYONE got the point. Does anyone know how they enforced it there? Perhaps it's because New Yorker wouldn't think twice about telling someone to clean up, whereas we tend to be more cautious. I know I mutter under my breath for 15 minutes, rather than do the grown up thing and tell people what I think.