As an American, I am very disappointed that PM Blair sided with our appointed President W. Bush. The Republicans have a conspiracy to deny us health care while the U.K. has health care for all their citizens, while our "leaders" had rather be imperialist. I was shocked that PM Blair, a man with a vision for the U.K. would unite with our sub par president for the purpose of removing a head of state without UN approval. I hope the U.K. voters return Tony Blair to office if he has learned from his mistake dealing with W Bush. We in the USA are not as great as we say. I'm not saying we don't have value as Americans, but conning Tony Blair--what happened?

Thomas Sheffield
Tupelo (USA) MS

Maroon Man please get your country to offer him a job then we are rid of him. There are moves a foot here to oust him as Labour Leader. I'll give him 12 months maximum.

The next leader of the Labour Party????? Sheffield's very own David Blunkett...watch this space. I am not a member of the LP by the way just my opinion.:D

Don't like tony. Clair Short summed him up, basically he wants to leave a legacy behind and its this blinding arrogance that has made him unpopular...as far as his arse licking goes with the Yanks it makes one wonder what the hell have the Yanks got on Britain ???!!!

Maroon Man I do not share your opinions on the war in Iraq - nor do I trust the man that conned his way into office in the U.S

As for UN approval - the U.K rarely follows any other countries aproval and does what it believes is right in the circumstances.

Tony will go shortly - you don't need to be a tarot reader to see that one coming :D

Moon

Originally posted by XADRIAN
...as far as his arse licking goes with the Yanks it makes one wonder what the hell have the Yanks got on Britain ???!!!
Err... the World's most powerful army and trillions of dollars in funding, trade agreements and 101 other things...

Yes but don't mention Vietnam will you?

Moon

I'd highly recommend these two sites for anyone who isn't overly keen on George Bush:

http://www.bushorchimp.com/

www.michaelmoore.com (http://www.michaelmoore.com)

Viet...what moon?

The US could always come back with the old ''you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us'' if we mention vietnam!

MaroonMan I couldn't care less who Blair sides with as long as its right to do so. That's a problem I think many people have, they'd uphold their ideological principles even if it meant not doing what was right.

Of course then you can have a discussion about what is right and wrong but on Iraq I think it's pretty clear-cut.

Originally posted by DaBouncer
The US could always come back with the old ''you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us'' if we mention vietnam!

But the war started for some in 1939.

Tony Blair is the best prime minister this country has ever had and I support him all the way, he is a good man and he did what he thought was right.

The man has a lot of courage, he has taken too much flak already,and it is time he got some support from the people of this country. Who else would have stood up to his critics and been firm in his leadership.

He is a hero in my eyes and deserves recognition, instead of being condemed for everything that happens in the world. the Iraq war was caused by the muslim fanatics of the world and must be rated the same as Adoph Hitler and his mad dogs.

Originally posted by halevan
Tony Blair is the best prime minister this country has ever had and I support him all the way, he is a good man and he did what he thought was right.

The man has a lot of courage, he has taken too much flak already,and it is time he got some support from the people of this country. Who else would have stood up to his critics and been firm in his leadership.

He is a hero in my eyes and deserves recognition, instead of being condemed for everything that happens in the world. the Iraq war was caused by the muslim fanatics of the world and must be rated the same as Adoph Hitler and his mad dogs.

Hal here's one or two things to bear in mind as you polish TB's halo.

Hospitals having to have raffles and run charity shops to fund basic hospital services.

Schools running deficit budgets, sacking teachers and even in one school each teachers giving up a days pay to buy books for the children.

The Cherie property fiasco.

Heading a party that doesn't agree with selective education then sending his own sons to the London Oratory school.

Iraq, well the less said the better.

Swanning off round the world when he should be at home sorting out the crumbling economy and society that this country is now facing.

The sooner he goes the better. He is a disgrace to the traditional Labour Movement in this country.

Hospitals having to have raffles and run charity shops to fund basic hospital services.
Lol, they have been doing this kind of stuff for years.

I don't support Blair, the blues, the greens or anyone else. Once any party comes to power they soon realise that running a country is a lot harder than they predicted. Once this sinks in, they all become as bad/good as each other.

I honestly don't care who comes to power next, it will be much the same as it's now and how it previously was under the Tories. No government has really achieved a great deal, it's the people at street level who have made the difference. The notion that any party has a set of ideals is crazy, they basically follow public opinion.

Tony Blair is the biggest conman since Jesus.
I have been saying this for years.
However what we have is a conservative prime minister and a labour chancellor and it seems to me to be working.
Let Gordon Brown run the economy and Tony Blair take all the flak.
We are a lot better off now than 6 years ago under Major & Edwina, or was it Norma:D .
Like the big fat man from hull said in 97 "give us ten years"
Personally I think it's going to take longer than that to put right 18 years of tory misrule.

Can't say why he sided with the USA instead of France or Germany though. There is probably a lot we still don't know.
And by the way it wasn't a war, it was an invasion.
And yes I am glad saddam has gone.

I sometimes wonder why he does the bloody job with all the stick he gets.

:x

Im off now to take some happy pills

Can't say why he sided with the USA instead of France or Germany though.
USA has a bigger wallet and army, I would prefer be their friends if it came to the crunch ;) Also the French would just do the opposite to us anyway, so even if he had sided with them, they would have probably changed their minds and sided with USA.... :lol:

Originally posted by Mo
Hal here's one or two things to bear in mind as you polish TB's halo.

Hospitals having to have raffles and run charity shops to fund basic hospital services.

The Cherie property fiasco.


And yet Blair has committed the Government to putting more money into the NHS than any other Government in history I think. The extra funding from the national insurance rise only started going into the NHS a few months ago. He said that it'd take 10 years to turn around the NHS (mainly because it takes 7 years to train new doctors and nurses). Why does everyone seem to think it should have been magically transformed overnight?


As the Cheriegate that was a complete load of newspaper tripe. There was no crime committed. Blair didn't actually have anything to do with it. It basically came down to a rich family (she earns more than him) buying their kid a place to live while he was at uni and Cherie being foolish enough to trust her friends dodgy boyfriend. But since no crime was committed what exactly is the scandal?

Originally posted by GHaywood
As the Cheriegate that was a complete load of newspaper tripe. There was no crime committed. Blair didn't actually have anything to do with it. It basically came down to a rich family (she earns more than him) buying their kid a place to live while he was at uni and Cherie being foolish enough to trust her friends dodgy boyfriend. But since no crime was committed what exactly is the scandal?

There was no crime, but it did highlight her, er, elastic morality as one newspaper called it. She saved a sizable wad of cash by 'trusting her friends dodgy boyfriend' - who was after all a convicted crook. Didn't she ever watch 'That's Life' :?

And didn't her spin doctors then go on to deny the entire affair?

I do admire the work Cherie does for good causes - but she shudda paid full whack like the everyone else.

Anyone fancy a cuppa Bai Lin tea ;)

lol Bai Lin tea, sam fox, rofl.

For a highly paid and extremely intelligent QC, I am always amazed by Cherie Booths apparent interest in crystal healing etc.

Shows that you can have a mind like a steel trap, but still swallow any old pseudoscientific codswallop (IMO).

Although I hardly think that what she did re:apartments in Bristol was wrong, no more than anyone else trying to buy expensive property at the best price possible...

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Although I hardly think that what she did re:apartments in Bristol was wrong, no more than anyone else trying to buy expensive property at the best price possible...

What did annoy many at the time was that Mr Blair was happy to let someone else's sons die in the deserts of the Middle East while Mrs Blair was spending a fortune on two properties for her privileged offspring

Originally posted by halevan
Tony Blair is the best prime minister this country has ever had and I support him all the way, he is a good man and he did what he thought was right.

The man has a lot of courage, he has taken too much flak already,and it is time he got some support from the people of this country. Who else would have stood up to his critics and been firm in his leadership.

He is a hero in my eyes and deserves recognition, instead of being condemed for everything that happens in the world. the Iraq war was caused by the muslim fanatics of the world and must be rated the same as Adoph Hitler and his mad dogs.

Blair's cunning and spin, lies and deceipt, his nepotism, his propensity to appoint cronies not up to the task alloted, his purloining of treasury funds and much, much more are legendry.

I hope to God, his day of reckoning is near...I speak on behalf of the inhabitants of 'once' Great Britain. An honourable person would resign forthwith. For Blair to cling on with his fingernails will damage him (and nulabour) beyond redemption.

Originally posted by Lickszz
Blair's cunning and spin, lies and deceipt, his nepotism, his propensity to appoint cronies not up to the task alloted, his purloining of treasury funds and much, much more are legendry.

I agree entirely, they are as legendry as Unicorns, dragons and elves. How about some facts?

Originally posted by maxt
I agree entirely, they are as legendry as Unicorns, dragons and elves. How about some facts?

Maxt. Don't get me started on Bliar. I can go on all day. I might reply later but I am out for the day. If you agree, surely you should be aware of the facts!

Originally posted by Lickszz
Maxt. Don't get me started on Bliar. I can go on all day. I might reply later but I am out for the day. If you agree, surely you should be aware of the facts!

Heard of irony? I was merely implying that you are right that they are legends with no basis in truth.

Originally posted by maxt
Heard of irony? I was merely implying that you are right that they are legends with no basis in truth.

Oh Sorry. I thought you were been sarcastic towards myself indicating that no facts existed to back up my post. You have saved me some time. Thankyou. :D

I'm glad we've sorted that out Lickzz.

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