I'm sure other people must have noticed this shop. It is approximately opposite Tesco and seems to be conected with drugs.

No doubt it is totally legal and doesn't actually sell any illegal substances but it gives the impression of encouraging drugs.

Wondered what other people thought of it.

you means it sells pipes bongs and grinders like they do in the forum

I'm sure other people must have noticed this shop. It is approximately opposite Tesco and seems to be conected with drugs.


That would be true of any tobacco shop in the country... or off-license, come to that.

you means it sells pipes bongs and grinders like they do in the forum

Not sure what bongs and grinders are. I have never actually examined it that closely but jsut get the impression that it is pro-drugs. Am I wrong?

slim if you dont know what they sell how can you get any impression

slim if you dont know what they sell how can you get any impression

really just from the window display.

As you openly admit to having no idea about drugs and related paraphernalia so why start the thread? Yes, it’s a shop that sells legal drugs and accessories for assisting in the use of legal drugs. It also sells growing equipment and accessories to assist in the production of plants via hydroponics methods, most likely Tomatoes.
Why not go inside and buy some legal products from them and take them. God forbid, you might actually enjoy it.
Careful though, you might suddenly develop a more open outlook on life which could possibly lead toward you meeting someone of the opposite sex…
:rolleyes:

As you openly admit to having no idea about drugs and related paraphernalia so why start the thread? Yes, it’s a shop that sells legal drugs and accessories for assisting in the use of legal drugs. It also sells growing equipment and accessories to assist in the production of plants via hydroponics methods, most likely Tomatoes.
Why not go inside and buy some legal products from them and take them. God forbid, you might actually enjoy it.
Careful though, you might suddenly develop a more open outlook on life which could possibly lead toward you meeting someone of the opposite sex…
:rolleyes:

In other words exploting a loophole in the law. I said that i don't think they are illegal just 'dodgy'. As for you letter comment it is both insulting and irrelevant.

OK, as a direct response to you original post.
I think it's a great shop and the chap that runs it is really sound. Why not call in, tell him you are new to such things and would like more information or advise on trying a legal high for the first time, he may offer you something that's not to strong that you may enjoy.

And why are they ‘dodgy’? You don't like illegal drugs because they are illegal even though you have never tried any and know little about them, so why not try LEGAL drugs? Surely by your own logic if they are legal they must be OK?

Slim, you state that you suspect the shop sells "dodgy" goods. What on earth does this imply? It sounds like you either think there is a violation of the law occuring or more likely a violation of your moral code.

The former is ill founded, the latter your choice.

As for the shop, so what? I take it shops selling alcohol:o , fags:o and porn:o are just as "dodgy".

Live and let..

Worry about something else.

Life's too short (or a box of chocolates)

Choose any platitude you like.:thumbsup:

OK, as a direct response to you original post.
I think it's a great shop and the chap that runs it is really sound. Why not call in, tell him you are new to such things and would like more information or advise on trying a legal high for the first time, he may offer you something that's not to strong that you may enjoy.

Because i have no desire to get involved in drugs even those that are technically legal (and lets face it we are talking about legal technicalities here).

... but it gives the impression of encouraging drugs.

I really don't think a shop can do this. A friend of mine works in a bar and says that use of 'illegal' class A drugs is so widespread, and is very acceptable and cheap now. It's not just the people/addicts/whatever outside tesco using potentially dangerous drugs, it's the pretty young people who you wouldn't expect. But a shop to do this alone? Hmmm...

And why are they ‘dodgy’? You don't like illegal drugs because they are illegal even though you have never tried any and know little about them, so why not try LEGAL drugs? Surely by your own logic if they are legal they must be OK?

The word dodgy is much used at the moment (infact overused in my view). It is used by various people to describe various things. In other words whatever they personally dislike.

Because i have no desire to get involved in drugs even those that are technically legal (and lets face it we are talking about legal technicalities here).

No, we are talking FACT.

It is just my own opinion. I just feel that there are enough drugs in society as it is with this sort of thing attempting to legitimise it in some way or other.

I suggest a srongly worded letter to the Daily Mail.

Sorry that's the mordant tongue in me.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion on "DRUGS!" , and as such I suspect you have an opinion on "DRUG!" users. But the original point you made was to canvass opinion on the West street shop - well - it's great.

There you go.

i think its a silly shop too!

like selling poppers as 'room fresheners'! as if! just one of those places i'd like to avoid! legally they're allowed to help people take drugs as long as they don't actually sell the drug, silly idea but hey, i can't do anything about it so i just have to avoid it, and probably the people coming out of it too!

i think its a silly shop too!

like selling poppers as 'room fresheners'! as if! just one of those places i'd like to avoid! legally they're allowed to help people take drugs as long as they don't actually sell the drug, silly idea but hey, i can't do anything about it so i just have to avoid it, and probably the people coming out of it too!

Agree Emma. Glad that someone else thinks like me. Good to see that not all young people (as some would have us believe) are keen on drugs.:thumbsup:

I hate that place, too. Full of drugged-up druggy drug heads using drugs. I once saw a young girl leaving the place in quite a state - she was stark naked, goggle eyed, and looked like she hadn't had a decent meal in days. She shouted, 'I can fly, I can fly!', and jumped straight into the path of a moving tram; she would have come to a sticky end were it not for a rather devious looking coloured chap, obviously the owner of the drug den, who scuttled out from the shadowy doorway and dragged her back inside.

I later found out that the girl had just months before been the daughter of a whoelsome local couple from one of Sheffield's more affluent suburbs - beautiful, popular, just about to head off to university...now she's a drug-addled druggy who steals babies from pensioners just so she can afford her next """"fix"""".

Can anyone tell me what this shop is called? I need to go have a look!

Is it called Kilo?? :confused:

Can anyone tell me what this shop is called? I need to go have a look!

I think they sell the " Happy Baccy" :cool:

I think they sell the " Happy Baccy" :cool:

What's that then? Do you smoke it? Is it good?

So a head shop exists in sheffield. Don't see a problem, hes not doing anything illegal so whats the problem?

As for the general issue of drugs. They are common place, widespread and people aren't going to stop using them.

The war on drugs is lost, won by people on drugs

So a head shop exists in sheffield. Don't see a problem, hes not doing anything illegal so whats the problem?

As for the general issue of drugs. They are common place, widespread and people aren't going to stop using them.

The war on drugs is lost, won by people on drugs

murderers, rapists, paedophiles and guns are common place too.... do you advocate those aswell??

Is it called Kilo?? :confused:

Yeah, it is. They sell bongs, scales, grinders, legal cannabis alternatives (which are rubbish, if you ask me), that sort of thing. It's a good shop.

murderers, rapists, paedophiles and guns are common place too.... do you advocate those aswell??

But these are all Illegal :confused:

There's nothing Illegal about a headshop.

murderers, rapists, paedophiles and guns are common place too.... do you advocate those aswell??no. but someone having a gram of coke or a few pills at the weekend is a world away from murdering or raping someone.

i understand you are a policeman? you better than anyone should be able to see the benefits of decriminalised, taxed drugs that are bought under condition?

Be more worried about the myriad outlets which peddle a substance which makes normal people want to fight, exhibit anti social behaviour and act like an ass. It impacts their health to such detriment that it causes a significant number of deaths and leads to homelessness and the break up of relationships. They're known as pubs.

Booze should be a more pressing worry as I can assure you that I'd rather come across a load of lads who'd been smoking a choice bit of bud than across a group who'd been giving it large in the rose and crown all day.

I'm sure other people must have noticed this shop. It is approximately opposite Tesco and seems to be conected with drugs.

No doubt it is totally legal and doesn't actually sell any illegal substances but it gives the impression of encouraging drugs.

Wondered what other people thought of it.

That's uncanny, I also noticed another establishment on West Street quite openly selling and encouraging the taking of mind altering substances. Judging by the customers apalling behaviour while under the influence of the items on sale it can only be matter of time before the boys in blue take action.

I think the place is called a pub. ;)

It is just my own opinion. I just feel that there are enough drugs in society as it is with this sort of thing attempting to legitimise it in some way or other.

I agree, in fact I am so angry I've now got a migraine and going to take 3 paracetomal, a couple of ibuprofen and a good dose of Night Nurse to help me sleep. :D

murderers, rapists, paedophiles and guns are common place too.... do you advocate those aswell??

Define common place?!?! I certainly don't know any murderers, rapists, paedophiles or anyone that owns a gun but I know people that have taken drugs.....I'd say drug use is a tad more common place than anything you listed!

Besides we're talking about a legal shop selling legal goods so what's the problem?

As you openly admit to having no idea about drugs and related paraphernalia so why start the thread? Yes, it’s a shop that sells legal drugs and accessories for assisting in the use of legal drugs. It also sells growing equipment and accessories to assist in the production of plants via hydroponics methods, most likely Tomatoes.
Why not go inside and buy some legal products from them and take them. God forbid, you might actually enjoy it.
Careful though, you might suddenly develop a more open outlook on life which could possibly lead toward you meeting someone of the opposite sex…
:rolleyes:

Tomatoes?!

"There you go sir, would you like some accesories to help you grow some nice tomatoes with your bong? While you're at it, how about a nice fan shaped like a large green leaf to keep you cool while you plant your *wink* tomato seeds?"

Joking aside, life can be enjoyed just as well without the aid of 'highs', be they legal or otherwise.

What's that then? Do you smoke it? Is it good?

Absolutely not, I dont even smoke ordinary ciggies.

As you openly admit to having no idea about drugs and related paraphernalia so why start the thread? Yes, it’s a shop that sells legal drugs and accessories for assisting in the use of legal drugs. It also sells growing equipment and accessories to assist in the production of plants via hydroponics methods, most likely Tomatoes.
Why not go inside and buy some legal products from them and take them. God forbid, you might actually enjoy it.
Careful though, you might suddenly develop a more open outlook on life which could possibly lead toward you meeting someone of the opposite sex…
:rolleyes:

Great advert for the cause:loopy:

I hate that place, too. Full of drugged-up druggy drug heads using drugs. I once saw a young girl leaving the place in quite a state - she was stark naked, goggle eyed, and looked like she hadn't had a decent meal in days. She shouted, 'I can fly, I can fly!', and jumped straight into the path of a moving tram; she would have come to a sticky end were it not for a rather devious looking coloured chap, obviously the owner of the drug den, who scuttled out from the shadowy doorway and dragged her back inside.

I later found out that the girl had just months before been the daughter of a whoelsome local couple from one of Sheffield's more affluent suburbs - beautiful, popular, just about to head off to university...now she's a drug-addled druggy who steals babies from pensioners just so she can afford her next """"fix"""".

Ah. Nothing reads better than a real life account; stop scare mongering if any affluent girls was abled to be enticed into that world then surely class has nothing to do with it.
Are you repeating your own experiences if so then I am wrong,

Ah, Mr1chop.
Take a step back.

I wonder if the pro-drugs posters on here have ever had to deal with school kids who have been "smoking a choice bit of bud" at lunchtime only to be violently sick in lessons in the afternoon. This event repeated has severely disrupted their education.

Kids buy their "gear" from these shops and the surrounding area and bring stuff into schools, but funnily enough don't bring booze into schools because it's not seen as hip and as connected to the music scene.

Talk about freedom of choice all you like but don't underestimate the damaging effect drugs have on society.

People don't enter a life of crime so they can buy some white lightning do they?

I wonder if the pro-drugs posters on here have ever had to deal with school kids who have been "smoking a choice bit of bud" at lunchtime only to be violently sick in lessons in the afternoon. This event repeated has severely disrupted their education.

Kids buy their "gear" from these shops and the surrounding area and bring stuff into schools, but funnily enough don't bring booze into schools because it's not seen as hip and as connected to the music scene.

Talk about freedom of choice all you like but don't underestimate the damaging effect drugs have on society.

People don't enter a life of crime so they can buy some white lightning do they?

Totally agree with you:thumbsup:

But you know we've got to 'live and let live':rolleyes: .

both bongs and grinders can be used without the need for illegal substances and indeed are. we have one sat on our shelf, complete with perfectly legal suppy of Hoki (tobacco), both brought quite openly through customs off holiday.

I would just like to say to all those being quite patronising to the non drug users. People do not have to have tried drugs to make an informed opinon on them. Because people dont use drugs to get a "high" or "chill out" dosent mean they are uptight and interfering busybodies. If you chose to take drugs that is your decision but it is illigal and there are reasons why it is. I am not naive i have tried cannabis and to be honest it didnt really do much for me. But there are side affects the biggest one being paranoia. I have seen this quite often in a number of my friends who smoke it a regularly. I also agree that alcohol carries the same somtimes considerabley more problems. We do owe it to are children to not just accept drugs as commen place. They do have a right to not get pulled into something that can be very detrimental to them just because "everybody does it". They dont and if you think you have freedom of choice to take drugs we have freedom of choice to choose a life without drugs and not have to suffer the affects of someone elses drug use.

I would just like to say to all those being quite patronising to the non drug users. People do not have to have tried drugs to make an informed opinon on them. Because people dont use drugs to get a "high" or "chill out" dosent mean they are uptight and interfering busybodies. If you chose to take drugs that is your decision but it is illigal and there are reasons why it is. I am not naive i have tried cannabis and to be honest it didnt really do much for me. But there are side affects the biggest one being paranoia. I have seen this quite often in a number of my friends who smoke it a regularly. I also agree that alcohol carries the same somtimes considerabley more problems. We do owe it to are children to not just accept drugs as commen place. They do have a right to not get pulled into something that can be very detrimental to them just because "everybody does it". They dont and if you think you have freedom of choice to take drugs we have freedom of choice to choose a life without drugs and not have to suffer the affects of someone elses drug use.

well said! although i don't mind people being patronising to me for not taking drugs, bit mental really! but i'm happy knowing that i'm not at any higher chance of dying for the sake of nothing. i've got much better things in my life to give me natural 'highs' without needing to put some chemicals inside to do it for me! but everyone has to make their own choices, so long as they don't hurt me or my family they can do what they want!!

I can't get over the fact they sell King Size Rizlas in motorway service stations.

Benozpiperazines are currently legal in this country - and most are imported from New Zealand, where they have been placed in a new class of drug specifically aimed at BZPs - Class D drugs, "non-traditional designer substances". The restrictions covering class D drugs are similar to those in place for alcohol.

People are looking for, and have found, better, less destructive and more enriching chemicals than alcohol, which is so last millenium.

Perhaps 'Class D drugs' is an idea worth looking at.

Ah. Nothing reads better than a real life account; stop scare mongering if any affluent girls was abled to be enticed into that world then surely class has nothing to do with it.
Are you repeating your own experiences if so then I am wrong,

If you read my post again, you'll see that it consists of around 110% sarcasm.

I hate that place, too. Full of drugged-up druggy drug heads using drugs. I once saw a young girl leaving the place in quite a state - she was stark naked, goggle eyed, and looked like she hadn't had a decent meal in days. She shouted, 'I can fly, I can fly!', and jumped straight into the path of a moving tram; she would have come to a sticky end were it not for a rather devious looking coloured chap, obviously the owner of the drug den, who scuttled out from the shadowy doorway and dragged her back inside.

I later found out that the girl had just months before been the daughter of a whoelsome local couple from one of Sheffield's more affluent suburbs - beautiful, popular, just about to head off to university...now she's a drug-addled druggy who steals babies from pensioners just so she can afford her next """"fix"""".

An interesting use of satire and irony, not at all bad for a first attemp. I'll give you 6/10. Good effort.

One thing that particulary stood out was you assumption that the owner of the shop was 'coloured'. Is he? I have no idea who owns it and personally the colour of his skin is neither here nor there. But of course that is not the point you were trying to make. The implication was that anyone who is opposed to drugs must also be racist. Why??

But these are all Illegal :confused:

There's nothing Illegal about a headshop.

What is a 'headshop' exactly? I have never come accross this term before.

Be more worried about the myriad outlets which peddle a substance which makes normal people want to fight, exhibit anti social behaviour and act like an ass. It impacts their health to such detriment that it causes a significant number of deaths and leads to homelessness and the break up of relationships. They're known as pubs.

Booze should be a more pressing worry as I can assure you that I'd rather come across a load of lads who'd been smoking a choice bit of bud than across a group who'd been giving it large in the rose and crown all day.

'Bud'?? It's a whole new language.:loopy:

Personally I would rather come accross neither group and I suspect most people (perhaps not on here but in society generally) feel the same.

'Bud'?? It's a whole new language.:loopy:

Personally I would rather come accross neither group and I suspect most people (perhaps not on here but in society generally) feel the same.

Sweeping generalisations, holier than thou judgmental pronouncements, and arrogance in the belief of being 'The Vox Populi'.......

maybe you should go into politics slim. :|

Sweeping generalisations, holier than thou judgmental pronouncements, and arrogance in the belief of being 'The Vox Populi'.......

maybe you should go into politics slim. :|

Are you saying that the majority of the population of the UK are PRO drugs. I don't think so. Remember Sheffield forum is not a representative sample of the country as a whole.

i don't know' headshop' and 'bud' either.

i can have a good guess from the nature of the thread but only a guess. go on enlighten us clean folks!

i don't know' headshop' and 'bud' either.

i can have a good guess from the nature of the thread but only a guess. go on enlighten us clean folks!

"heads" was the late 60s term for hippies (sort of) and so a "headshop" is a hippyshop.

"bud" is generally used these days to mean marijuana - though more speciflcaly the actually bud of the plant.

I'm sure that will help the debate along a little...

Are you saying that the majority of the population of the UK are PRO drugs. I don't think so. Remember Sheffield forum is not a representative sample of the country as a whole.the vast majority of the country are certainly not pro drugs. however that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a serious rethink about drug laws and the way they affect people.

there are hundreds of people in this city who are basically hard working, responsible adults who choose to take something as a 'mood lifter' at the weekend when they out. these people aren't criminals and its ludicrous to make them so for their choice of intoxicant.

drugs can kill. then again so can water if used irresponsibly. prohibition historically has never worked and its not working now. the country is awash with drugs. isn't it about time we faced up to the reality rather than keep fooling ourselves that everythings ok?

People don't enter a life of crime so they can buy some white lightning do they?

erm,yes :confused: You obviously have not heard of alchoholism :confused:

no. but someone having a gram of coke or a few pills at the weekend is a world away from murdering or raping someone.

i understand you are a policeman? you better than anyone should be able to see the benefits of decriminalised, taxed drugs that are bought under condition?

I agree. I think it's a good shop, never seems at all 'dodgy' when i've been in. Personally I think it's better for people to buy controlled legal 'drugs' than any oldd crap off the streets.

"kids buy gear from these shops?"

are you sure, some very small minded people on here who clearly belive everyhing you read in the "Daily mail"

"druggys mugging and rapeing"

Genius

GET OUT MORE!!

erm,yes :confused: You obviously have not heard of alchoholism :confused:

oh right...thanks for that I have never heard of alcoholism...muppet:loopy:

"kids buy gear from these shops?"

are you sure, some very small minded people on here who clearly belive everyhing you read in the "Daily mail"

"druggys mugging and rapeing"

Genius

GET OUT MORE!!

No just real life experience of dealing with the effects drugs have on the lives of young adults.

Totally agree with you:thumbsup:

But you know we've got to 'live and let live':rolleyes: .

I agree...but 14 year old boys can't really be expected to make the same informed choices an adult can.

funny how ppl sit havin a pop @ each other from behind a monitor :loopy:

You can get poppers from there if you ever fancy re visiting your youth one weekend!

All these post's seem a bit dodgy to me.

Are you saying that the majority of the population of the UK are PRO drugs. I don't think so. Remember Sheffield forum is not a representative sample of the country as a whole.

Do you do any of the following on a regular basis: -

a) Drink tea or coffee
b) Drink cola or energy drinks
c) smoke cigarettes
d) Drink alcohol

All 'legal' 'drugs'.

What you need to do to enable you to win your argument is define your terms 'What is a drug'?. As it comes across to me you think that Ganja is 'bad' because its illegal. Yet millions of people don't think it is. The law is not a good indication for what is good for us and what isn't. Heroine was legal once and frequently used by Queen Victoria. The law doesn't always get it right. Women weren't allowed to vote - things change its just a matter of time.

It would be foolish to group all these substances under the same banner 'Drugs'.

Its not all black and white.

I'd rather walk down a street full of stoned people than one full of drunk people. Drunks are unpredictable. Stoners can't be arsed to be unpredictable :hihi:

they sell legal drugs that at night time smell a lot like cannabis while walking past the shop...do they not?!

they sell legal drugs that at night time smell a lot like cannabis while walking past the shop...do they not?!

Errrr, your point is?

I am sure there is / was a similar type of shop in Broomhill if anyone is interested.

There has been one in / around the Forum for as long as I can remember...

I doubt a shop as open as that would ever dare sell anything the slightest bit illegal as they would have far to much to loose. Looking at the customers that go in there they are selling a "lifestyle" as other shops do.

I doubt if half their customers actually take any drugs but they want to buy the paraphernalia of it that makes their mates think they do :)

I doubt a shop as open as that would ever dare sell anything the slightest bit illegal as they would have far to much to loose. Looking at the customers that go in there they are selling a "lifestyle" as other shops do.

I doubt if half their customers actually take any drugs but they want to buy the paraphernalia of it that makes their mates think they do :)it would be interesting to know what percentage of the punters do just buy the gear!

An interesting use of satire and irony, not at all bad for a first attemp. I'll give you 6/10. Good effort.

One thing that particulary stood out was you assumption that the owner of the shop was 'coloured'. Is he? I have no idea who owns it and personally the colour of his skin is neither here nor there. But of course that is not the point you were trying to make. The implication was that anyone who is opposed to drugs must also be racist. Why??

Wow. You come across as remarkably pompous. My post was a parody of the sensationalist tabloid articles of the 1960s, in which young, middle-class white girls were lured away into a life of drugs and crime by men who were invariably 'coloured'.

Don't be so self-righteous :rolleyes:

Are you saying that the majority of the population of the UK are PRO drugs. I don't think so. Remember Sheffield forum is not a representative sample of the country as a whole.

not at all, I'm not trying to speak for anyone but myself, and I wouldnt be so bold as to imagine I could second guess the opinion of an entire nation, I merely voiced an opinion, I would expect you as an intelligent person, to have recognised the difference.

Blimey ... didn't know about this shop .. must visit ! ;o)

I'm sure other people must have noticed this shop. It is approximately opposite Tesco and seems to be conected with drugs.

it gives the impression of encouraging drugs.

Wondered what other people thought of it.


The mods on this site make me laugh. So far you have allowed the shop to be called dodgy, say it encuorages drug use and that at night the smell of illegal substances can be detected.

The bottom line is that if you don't like it; tough. It is perfectly legal and pays it tax like any other shop. The bit that may have some element of illegality is you open attempt at libel. There you go, not one of you are so sqeeky clean. If your so adamant that the law should be fully upheld then your first up.

Mods get a grip.

I'm sure other people must have noticed this shop. It is approximately opposite Tesco and seems to be conected with drugs.

No doubt it is totally legal and doesn't actually sell any illegal substances but it gives the impression of encouraging drugs.

Wondered what other people thought of it.

More to the point... what were you doing on West St? :confused: ;) :hihi:

I am sure there is / was a similar type of shop in Broomhill if anyone is interested.

There has been one in / around the Forum for as long as I can remember...

Lol, yea the one in Broomhill seemed to close as soon as the loophole in the Mushroom law was changed, funny that

In my experience these shops do not sell their products to minors. They also most certainly do not sell anything illegal. It would not be worth it to them - they have a good viable business (they don't make people buy anything, the market is there for it!!!) which would only be ruined if illegal activity was spotted.

They obviously do not 'canvass' people into their shop, most people on the board who are not interested by this type of shop are unaware of it, suggesting that it is those who want to find it that do.

I have no desire to patronise those who make the choice not to take illegal drugs, but I do not deserve to be condemned for my personal choices, that do not affect other people.

they sell legal drugs that at night time smell a lot like cannabis while walking past the shop...do they not?!

Probably cannabis insence...

Because i have no desire to get involved in drugs even those that are technically legal (and lets face it we are talking about legal technicalities here).

Hmm lets think alcohol, techincally legal ruins lives, kills but a good taxable product. Fags, techincally legal, kills people but a good taxable product

So you dont drink? Never had a fag?

t***er

well said! although i don't mind people being patronising to me for not taking drugs, bit mental really! but i'm happy knowing that i'm not at any higher chance of dying for the sake of nothing. i've got much better things in my life to give me natural 'highs' without needing to put some chemicals inside to do it for me! but everyone has to make their own choices, so long as they don't hurt me or my family they can do what they want!!#

You eat, breath and drink chemicals everyday and have done since day 1

Why arent you dead yet?

"heads" was the late 60s term for hippies (sort of) and so a "headshop" is a hippyshop.

"bud" is generally used these days to mean marijuana - though more speciflcaly the actually bud of the plant.

I'm sure that will help the debate along a little...

Thanks for that. As I said before it is a whole different language, and as any George Orwell reader will know controling the language is an important tool.:suspect:

I think the answer lies with cotton buds, The makers try to tell you that they're for cleaning in between baby's toes and insect jousting competitions when everyone knows they're really for having a good ole poke down your ear canal.

I think if the government was serious about it, they should stop people selling products with no other use than with illegal drugs. I doubt it would make any difference to the number of people using drugs though. I think the only plausible arguement against these shops is not what they supply (you could just use other pipes, agricultural equipment etc..) but that they in some way legitimise illiegal drugs. i.e. it shows that other people also use illegal drugs.

I'm sure other people must have noticed this shop. It is approximately opposite Tesco and seems to be conected with drugs.

No doubt it is totally legal and doesn't actually sell any illegal substances but it gives the impression of encouraging drugs.

Wondered what other people thought of it.always stinks of poppers-and they all look a bit dodgy round there! i suppose its so open and obvious the police wouldnt think to look there!
doesnt look like hes hurting anyone and to be honest id rather party in a place full of drugs then full of drunken people - everything in moderation.....
...as shes sits and waits for head biting off.........:o

Speaking of language I have just noticed that the title of this thread has been changed from 'dodgy' to 'strange'. Why?

Speaking of language I have just noticed that the title of this thread has been changed from 'dodgy' to 'strange'. Why?

Because if everything the shop sells is legal and above board, there's nothing dodgy about it, and to suggest otherwise could be seen as a slanderous insinuation. (I presume).

I doubt if half their customers actually take any drugs but they want to buy the paraphernalia of it that makes their mates think they do :)

If true then this says a lot, ie drugs are 'cool'. Yet who says so? It is always amazing that people who like to pride themselves in being such rebelious free thinkers on this really are so influenced by peer groups, who in turn are influenced by...... well who knows.

Hmm lets think alcohol, techincally legal ruins lives, kills but a good taxable product. Fags, techincally legal, kills people but a good taxable product

So you dont drink? Never had a fag?

t***er

Yes never had a fag (unless you count passive smoking).

does anyone know the owner-what gave him the idea of this type of shop?

The mods on this site make me laugh. So far you have allowed the shop to be called dodgy, say it encuorages drug use and that at night the smell of illegal substances can be detected.

The bottom line is that if you don't like it; tough. It is perfectly legal and pays it tax like any other shop. The bit that may have some element of illegality is you open attempt at libel. There you go, not one of you are so sqeeky clean. If your so adamant that the law should be fully upheld then your first up.

Mods get a grip.

I have not libled anyone. I specifically said i doubt they actually do anything illegal. As for 'dodgy' that is my personal opinion. I do consider it dodgy to stay just within the law but yet give every impression of promoting drugs.

does anyone know the owner-what gave him the idea of this type of shop?

Er Money - profit perhaps.

As for 'dodgy' here is a list of other threads which have used the word.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search.php?searchid=2366804

If interested see for yourself in what context it was used.:D

I have not libled anyone. I specifically said i doubt they actually do anything illegal. As for 'dodgy' that is my personal opinion. I do consider it dodgy to stay just within the law but yet give every impression of promoting drugs.

But still felt you needed to change the title of the thread just in case. Says it all really :hihi:

I think the answer lies with cotton buds, The makers try to tell you that they're for cleaning in between baby's toes and insect jousting competitions when everyone knows they're really for having a good ole poke down your ear canal.please can i come to your house for an insect jousting tournament?!

As you openly admit to having no idea about drugs and related paraphernalia so why start the thread? Yes, it’s a shop that sells legal drugs and accessories for assisting in the use of legal drugs. It also sells growing equipment and accessories to assist in the production of plants via hydroponics methods, most likely Tomatoes.
Why not go inside and buy some legal products from them and take them. God forbid, you might actually enjoy it.
Careful though, you might suddenly develop a more open outlook on life which could possibly lead toward you meeting someone of the opposite sex…
:rolleyes:faaaaaarn tastick

always stinks of poppers-and they all look a bit dodgy round there! i suppose its so open and obvious the police wouldnt think to look there!
doesnt look like hes hurting anyone and to be honest id rather party in a place full of drugs then full of drunken people - everything in moderation.....
...as shes sits and waits for head biting off.........:o


And this is it! Its the drunks that are always falling about and starting fights. The Police are not stupid - they know this.....

I very rarely see people who have taken far too much, but with Alcohol its most people who are out that have had too much.....

I doubt a shop as open as that would ever dare sell anything the slightest bit illegal as they would have far to much to loose. Looking at the customers that go in there they are selling a "lifestyle" as other shops do.

I doubt if half their customers actually take any drugs but they want to buy the paraphernalia of it that makes their mates think they do :)

You really think this happens? What a waste of money, £25 on a bong just so you're mates think you smoke!? Not very close mates if they never see you use it!?

These shops are nothing new, they have been around for years. In some States in America it is illegal to sell such paraphenalia. I think Cheech or Chong was given a sentance for selling drug related products.

One thing to consider - If people start buying the hydroponic kits for their own use, you irradicate any 'gangster' involvement and no money makes its way into the 'Crimeworld'. Yes, growing your own maybe a crime but if you are not selling it, you are not using it to fund any other activity.

Nevermind that shop, I saw one on Division St which apparently appears to entice and encourage patrons to engage in sordid pleasures of the flesh! My family and I won't even walk on the same side of the road past this Devil's Den for the ill-minded. :mad:

well what a cufuffle, i tell you what you lot would struggle in the sixties.
but seriously things aren't that bad.
a good friend of mine has weened off naughty ness with alternatives, i suppose he could have had some concentrated caffiene (pr* pl*s), or just just tried to give himself w*ngs.
one thing a friend of mine has noticed, its that the shop sells cigastops (tobacco cessation sticks) and tobacco free nicotine free non-addictive cigs, and snuff (probably with the new rules that come into force 1.7.07 in mind).
very thoughtful.
and yes i suppose they will pay tax, vat and rates, rent, wages.
as do somewhere in the region of 500 head shops in the UK, not to mention the 100's that ply there trade on the net world wide.
i say stop it all, booze, smoking (anything), addictive prescribed drugs (poor Robbie), and lets not eat meat or drink tea (poor people plucking the leafs, poor wages).
Eat pulses, don't wear leather.
what the huff.

You really think this happens? What a waste of money, £25 on a bong just so you're mates think you smoke!?

People spend MUCH more than that just to impress their mates (see the Range Rover thread)

There is a shop in the castle market called smokey sams.That sells bongs and grinders.Cannabis smelling incense sticks and blunts for the use of smokin tea bags .haha
charlie x x

People spend MUCH more than that just to impress their mates (see the Range Rover thread)

cheaper to use a pop bottle.when i was younger that what people use.

I know the the guy that runs the shop on West Street and I can assure you he would never compromise his integrity (or his livelihood) by selling anything dodgy. I cannot believe people on here can condemn someone who offers safer alternatives to highly addictive substances (including cigarettes).

I have met the guy who runs the shop, and he is gorgeous! He has lovely floppy blonde hair, tanned complexion and a smile to die for! He has a great personality too. Phoarr!
As for all the comments against this shop - go in and speak to him and try them for yourself. They are LEGAL!

Dont see what all the fuss is about here - surely the best way to minmise the affects of drugs is to legalise the lot? This cuts out the drug dealer from society and means that people can take drugs if they wish out of harms way, not in public.

Slimsid you know exactly what this 'strange' shop is.

You would have had to have been living in a dark box for the last few decades to not have known what anything was in the window display.

You really think this happens? What a waste of money, £25 on a bong just so you're mates think you smoke!? Not very close mates if they never see you use it!?

These shops are nothing new, they have been around for years. In some States in America it is illegal to sell such paraphenalia. I think Cheech or Chong was given a sentance for selling drug related products.

One thing to consider - If people start buying the hydroponic kits for their own use, you irradicate any 'gangster' involvement and no money makes its way into the 'Crimeworld'. Yes, growing your own maybe a crime but if you are not selling it, you are not using it to fund any other activity.

i'd like to grow for myself and a couple of friends, i'd gladly pay for extra electricty, £5 duty to customs per ounce grown, i'd also grow some fruit.
i don't want to be done for supply though so i wouldn't till they legalise it, when growing cannabis you are far more likely to get caught than when selling imo, and possessing isn't a worry so i currently fund "organised crime" through fear of the police.

Well even Tesco sell king size rizlas now and what are they for if not smoking dope?

However, I've heard the piperazine based legal high pills that are sold in head shops are actually rather strong and due to be made illegal. There's an article here -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1665787,00.html

im glad you mentioned tesco, i'd imagine pretty soon supermarkets will introduce a drug paraphenalia aisle behind the wine, spirits, beer and beer aisles.
i seldom shop at tesco but i want and know for a fact that tesco rolling trays would sell like hotcakes,
they would have a compartment to store your resin/herb a slot for rizla,baccy/fags and ditch to place your skin. there would be a large tesco logo and underneath "every little counts", come on tesco ive give you the idea, make youself the money (and sort me my every little counts rolling tray out).

I think if the government was serious about it, they should stop people selling products with no other use than with illegal drugs. I doubt it would make any difference to the number of people using drugs though. I think the only plausible arguement against these shops is not what they supply (you could just use other pipes, agricultural equipment etc..) but that they in some way legitimise illiegal drugs. i.e. it shows that other people also use illegal drugs.

£50 for you if you can name but one.

£50 for you if you can name but one.

Grinders, Vaporisers, Bongs.

Grinders, Vaporisers, Bongs.

Tobacco, tobacco, tobacco!

oh god! noone is going to agree.

people who feel the need to take drugs, do what you want, don't put them near my family and stay away from those of us that choose to live without the need for drugs!! then everyone is happy.

oh god! noone is going to agree.

people who feel the need to take drugs, do what you want, don't put them near my family and stay away from those of us that choose to live without the need for drugs!! then everyone is happy.

stay away from the hospital, pubs and shops then luv for your own saftey

Tobacco, tobacco, tobacco!

There is no reason to grind tobacco, a vaporiser wouldn't work with tobacco.

I concede bongs but please tell me how you would intend to smoke tobacco with a vaporiser.

stay away from the hospital, pubs and shops then luv for your own saftey

i can make my own choices about my safety thank you! i would happily stay away from people who abuse alcohol but as this thread is just about the type of people that use 'those' shops, that is what i'm talking about.

So a head shop exists in sheffield. Don't see a problem, hes not doing anything illegal so whats the problem?

As for the general issue of drugs. They are common place, widespread and people aren't going to stop using them.

The war on drugs is lost, won by people on drugs

Wonder if they would consider it won if they had benefits (if any) stopped, and medical care only if paid for. Might make them think twice.

Grinders, Vaporisers, Bongs.

all can be used with other substances, sorry.

There is no reason to grind tobacco, a vaporiser wouldn't work with tobacco.

I concede bongs but please tell me how you would intend to smoke tobacco with a vaporiser.

Of course, you don't 'smoke' anything in a vapouriser.

Vapourisers work almost too well with tobacco, although the temperature required is higher. It's almost as strong as a Nicorette Inhalator.

I take it your only experience of tobacco is of the commonly available 'ready rubbed' variety. Flake tobacco demands rubbing and grinders do this job very well.

I notice that the Bank of England supplies the country's cocaine addicts with half the paraphernalia required for insufflation.

Given that I can buy blunt wraps, grinders, king size papers at my local newsagent, why shouldn't Boots be allowed to stock razor blades, mirrors and hypodermics?

Wonder if they would consider it won if they had benefits (if any) stopped, and medical care only if paid for. Might make them think twice.i think you'll find a significant percentage of drug use is by people who have jobs and could probably afford health care.

Dont see what all the fuss is about here - surely the best way to minmise the affects of drugs is to legalise the lot? This cuts out the drug dealer from society and means that people can take drugs if they wish out of harms way, not in public.:thumbsup:

don't knock heroin unless you've tried it, that's what my granddaddy used to say! The little smack rat!

The blonde floppy haired tanned head shop man is SINGLE!

The blonde floppy haired tanned head shop man is SINGLE!

wonder why!:rolleyes:

He's a good guy, so who know's.

Of course, you don't 'smoke' anything in a vapouriser.

Vapourisers work almost too well with tobacco, although the temperature required is higher. It's almost as strong as a Nicorette Inhalator.

I take it your only experience of tobacco is of the commonly available 'ready rubbed' variety. Flake tobacco demands rubbing and grinders do this job very well.

I notice that the Bank of England supplies the country's cocaine addicts with half the paraphernalia required for insufflation.

Given that I can buy blunt wraps, grinders, king size papers at my local newsagent, why shouldn't Boots be allowed to stock razor blades, mirrors and hypodermics?
I was reading about tests carried out on about 60 notes in irelaand which all tested positive for cocaine, now if nearly all notes have traces of cocaine (how many users!), also where do i stand when i possess and supply cocaine unwittingly on a daily basis through cash exchange, they need a minimum amoun for possesion, otherwisse they could arrest anyone in possession of a note under susp pcd cocaine if they so wished.

It also sells growing equipment and accessories to assist in the production of plants via hydroponics methods, most likely Tomatoes.
:rolleyes:

:hihi: brilliant!

wonder why!:rolleyes:

Enlighten us, please.

Enlighten us, please.

absolutly no idea, thats why i was wondering why of course!:loopy:

I hate that place, too. Full of drugged-up druggy drug heads using drugs. I once saw a young girl leaving the place in quite a state - she was stark naked, goggle eyed, and looked like she hadn't had a decent meal in days. She shouted, 'I can fly, I can fly!', and jumped straight into the path of a moving tram; she would have come to a sticky end were it not for a rather devious looking coloured chap, obviously the owner of the drug den, who scuttled out from the shadowy doorway and dragged her back inside.

.........:D

absolutly no idea, thats why i was wondering why of course!:loopy:


Then try using a question mark instead of an exclamation mark!:rolleyes:

Then try using a question mark instead of an exclamation mark!:rolleyes:

oh, the joys of sarcasm!?

I was reading about tests carried out on about 60 notes in Ireland which all tested positive for cocaine, now if nearly all notes have traces of cocaine (how many users!), also where do i stand when i possess and supply cocaine unwittingly on a daily basis through cash exchange, they need a minimum amount for possession, otherwise they could arrest anyone in possession of a note under susp pcd cocaine if they so wished.

Your brain contains enough substances banned under tryptamine and phenethylamine analog laws to land you with 14 years inside.....

i.e. We're all guilty as hell.

you means it sells pipes bongs and grinders like they do in the forum

aaaahhhhhh a head shop :)

Your brain contains enough substances banned under tryptamine and phenethylamine analog laws to land you with 14 years inside.....

i.e. We're all guilty as hell.

hey phan. am digging the new avatar dude! that last one was getting me down :D

Because i have no desire to get involved in drugs even those that are technically legal (and lets face it we are talking about legal technicalities here).I'm sure someone else has suggested it, but if I were you I would stay away from this evil shop and just say NO :hihi:

oh, the joys of sarcasm!?

Actually from reading your last post that Badhairdo was referring to, it seems it was you that was being sarcastic!