View Full Version : What happens if you can't go back because of ill health


MARY POPPINS
19-02-2007, 15:28
I've been off sick from work, since last November. with damaged discs in my back, which are very painful, meaning I cant work, my doctor keeps signing me off for a month at a time, and at the moment I get statutory sick pay.
The doctor doesn't think the discs will mend so it doesn't look like I will be returning to work,
Does any one know what will happen re my employers, I've worked there for 16 years, thought they might just sack me, after so long, or perhaps make me redundant, then what happens to my statutory sick pay, I've never been off sick before so dont have a clue what to do,Hoping some of you wise people might be able to help.

Don_Kiddick
19-02-2007, 15:32
You should qualify for early Ill Health Retirement - you might do well to contact the EEF for advice :thumbsup:


EEF Sheffield (http://www.eef.org.uk/sheffield)

raskel
19-02-2007, 15:33
My mum got pentioned off due to logn term sick. Can you get your pention?

natasha77
19-02-2007, 15:35
Be very careful with this one, this happened to my mum, she was off work with a really bad back at first to it turned out to be something else which i cant spell, but this means she cant work the doctors signed her off, after 8mth of sick, they called my mum and told her they were making her redundent because of funding :rolleyes:
Because they cant sack someone for being of sick!!!!
To cut a long story short
Doctors told her to sign on for incapastiy benefit, socail said no and now she has to live of less then 80 a week for her and my sister who's 14
She she looking for a job now but the doc said if she goes back to work she will end up in a wheelchair

But what can she do?

MARY POPPINS
19-02-2007, 15:41
Be very careful with this one, this happened to my mum, she was off work with a really bad back at first to it turned out to be something else which i cant spell, but this means she cant work the doctors signed her off, after 8mth of sick, they called my mum and told her they were making her redundent because of funding :rolleyes:
Because they cant sack someone for being of sick!!!!
To cut a long story short
Doctors told her to sign on for incapastiy benefit, socail said no and now she has to live of less then 80 a week for her and my sister who's 14
She she looking for a job now but the doc said if she goes back to work she will end up in a wheelchair

But what can she do?
Why did the social say no to incapacity benefit, If going to work is going to make her worse, makes you wonder how all the others manage to make a claim.

Heyesey
19-02-2007, 15:47
Because they cant sack someone for being of sick!!!!


They can, and will, terminate your contract for absence, if you're sick for long enough. That's how I had my contract terminated.

Whether or not it's feasible, or advisable, to take retirement on ill-health grounds is probably best discussed with a financial advisor; there are many factors to consider. I was only 28 at the time, and hoped to get back to work in time, so I was advised not to take it. If you're 55 and have little to no hope of recovery, it may be worthwhile.

happyhippy
19-02-2007, 15:52
Be very careful with this one, this happened to my mum, she was off work with a really bad back at first to it turned out to be something else which i cant spell, but this means she cant work the doctors signed her off, after 8mth of sick, they called my mum and told her they were making her redundent because of funding :rolleyes:
Because they cant sack someone for being of sick!!!!
To cut a long story short
Doctors told her to sign on for incapastiy benefit, socail said no and now she has to live of less then 80 a week for her and my sister who's 14
She she looking for a job now but the doc said if she goes back to work she will end up in a wheelchair

But what can she do?

Had she paid enough NI Contributions in the past two years? If not, then she would have to claim Income Support on disability grounds, and that would take into account any savings, or redundancy payments, etc.

If someone makes a claim to either of these benefits, for the first 6 months after the termination of employment there is an underlying entitlement, so long as there are valid doctor's certificates.

I'm not sure as to why there would be a query to benefit here. If her condition is so severe, then try to get an appointment with a CAB with regard to a Disability Living Allowance claim. Also remember that you can work while in receipt of this benefit - it's a top up to help people with severe day-to-day difficulties.

miniminch
19-02-2007, 15:52
Why did the social say no to incapacity benefit, If going to work is going to make her worse, makes you wonder how all the others manage to make a claim.can't you just use your magic at work, mary poppins, like you did in that documentary about your life?:confused:

Tomataheeed
19-02-2007, 15:54
Check to see if your company's benefits package includes a disability insurance scheme. At our company, after 6 months full pay, the company can claim against its insurers to pay 90% of your salary until retirement. I believe there are assessments by doctors every year to keep you on the scheme. I think this sort of scheme is quite common.

natasha77
19-02-2007, 15:55
Well anyway i cant understand why she can't get it either, the doctors and hospital all wrote letters to the social and the reason why they wont pay her anything is because she has not paid enough NI
Which i think is stupid!!
I lend her money when i can, she is 60 in september so she is due to retire but Less the £80 a week for 2 people 1 of them a teenager, to pay bills, food and clothes etc she struggles really bad :(
I'm getting my self all upset now :sad:

happyhippy
19-02-2007, 15:57
I've been off sick from work, since last November. with damaged discs in my back, which are very painful, meaning I cant work, my doctor keeps signing me off for a month at a time, and at the moment I get statutory sick pay.
The doctor doesn't think the discs will mend so it doesn't look like I will be returning to work,
Does any one know what will happen re my employers, I've worked there for 16 years, thought they might just sack me, after so long, or perhaps make me redundant, then what happens to my statutory sick pay, I've never been off sick before so dont have a clue what to do,Hoping some of you wise people might be able to help.

First things first, stay in regular contact with your employer, and discuss it with them first.

MARY POPPINS
19-02-2007, 16:02
Check to see if your company's benefits package includes a disability insurance scheme. At our company, after 6 months full pay, the company can claim against its insurers to pay 90% of your salary until retirement. I believe there are assessments by doctors every year to keep you on the scheme. I think this sort of scheme is quite common.

This would be brilliant, I'll check in to it,
you would think after 16 years there would be something, and I've always paid full stamp.

happyhippy
19-02-2007, 16:02
Well anyway i cant understand why she can't get it either, the doctors and hospital all wrote letters to the social and the reason why they wont pay her anything is because she has not paid enough NI
Which i think is stupid!!
I lend her money when i can, she is 60 in september so she is due to retire but Less the £80 a week for 2 people 1 of them a teenager, to pay bills, food and clothes etc she struggles really bad :(
I'm getting my self all upset now :sad:

In which case start the process for DLA immediately; the process is lengthy. When she turns 60, she won't be able to claim for the mobility part of DLA (the name of the benefit changes to Attendance Allowance too). If she is awarded the mobility part before she is 60, she'll have that for as long as the award runs.

See a CAB.

As regards the Incapacity Benefit, the rules about contributions have been like that for years.

MARY POPPINS
19-02-2007, 16:07
In which case start the process for DLA immediately; the process is lengthy. When she turns 60, she won't be able to claim for the mobility part of DLA (the name of the benefit changes to Attendance Allowance too). If she is awarded the mobility part before she is 60, she'll have that for as long as the award runs.

See a CAB.

As regards the Incapacity Benefit, the rules about contributions have been like that for years.

You seem very knowledgeable happyhippy, very handy having some one like you, to help us that dont know how the system works, or just never needed the system before, thankyou very much.

happyhippy
19-02-2007, 16:14
You seem very knowledgeable happyhippy, very handy having some one like you, to help us that dont know how the system works, or just never needed the system before, thankyou very much.

Practically all of my working life has been in disability welfare rights, or working in the Uncivil Service. Passing on a bit of knowledge costs nowt too! Glad to help!

Bonny
19-02-2007, 17:14
oooh Happyhippy, could've done with a bit of advice on the letter I got from Social Security. Managed to confirm today that it's genuine now anyway.

It's really nice that you can help because so many of these things are very confusing and when people are in most need is usually when they are least able to manage things themselves.

Hope you get everything sorted MaryPoppins.

Jabberwocky
19-02-2007, 17:17
Happened to me in 2004. The sight went downhill drastically and the bast....they retired me early.

I had a couple of visits to the government doc things and last year when I went they told me I was so bad that I didnt have to go back and I should register myself as blind.

The EEF thing helped me.

happyhippy
19-02-2007, 17:27
oooh Happyhippy, could've done with a bit of advice on the letter I got from Social Security. Managed to confirm today that it's genuine now anyway.

It's really nice that you can help because so many of these things are very confusing and when people are in most need is usually when they are least able to manage things themselves.

Hope you get everything sorted MaryPoppins.

Well to be honest, I've just read through that and I'm baffled as to why someone would want to see your marriage certificate, but yes, it's true that old stationery can be used.

Jabberwocky
19-02-2007, 21:00
They hate to help the ill or disabled, yet they love to give cold hard cash to alcoholics for their booze top up!



*JabberWock runs screaming from Happyhippy* :D

happyhippy
20-02-2007, 00:21
They hate to help the ill or disabled, yet they love to give cold hard cash to alcoholics for their booze top up!



*JabberWock runs screaming from Happyhippy* :D

Whatsh ya shryin t shay ........ hic ........... :hihi: