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vidster
12-10-2004, 21:08
What are your favourite sci-fi programs?.
I would list my favourites but that would mean listing every one of them!

WallBuilder
12-10-2004, 22:36
So you'd list every single one would you? Would your list include Blake Seven or how about the original Flash Gordon, then of course there was that terrible cartoon version of Star Trek which is best forgotten.
I'd claim to be a science fiction fan but I'll be the first one to say that some of it was and is rubbish, favorite programs would be any Star Trek with real people, Stargate, I've not decided about Atlantis yetawhile. Favorite films are two oldies, Silent Running and the classic The Day the Earth Stood Still, I also sit and cackle at Red Dwarf and The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, though you may of guessed the last from my signature.

vidster
12-10-2004, 22:43
Blake's' seven... whooo, that takes me back to being a 'whippersnapper'. Dr Who was on just before it on BBC2 if i remember rightly.
Flash Gordon, what a film!. Brian Blessed at his best.
I'm sure there was another Sci-fi program at the same time but i can not remember it?. It was on a par with Blakes seven?

WallBuilder
12-10-2004, 23:08
Try watching the old black and white Flash Gordon, it was bad, America spawned a lot of bad sci-fi, the Time Tunnel, Lost in Space,Land of the Giants, we had some pretty interesting programs as well the Tomorrow People or how about Sapphire and Steel. Doctor Who went rapidly downhill after Jon Pertwee, and no it wasn't just because I was getting older, remember Bonnie Langforth? Her claim to fame she could scream [badly] even the introduction of the lass in the leather bikini didn't help, oooh and that irritating K9 that even had his own series, and then we wonder why some people laugh at sci-fi

vidster
12-10-2004, 23:12
I remember the first Battlestar Galactica and i'm looking forward to watching the new one on thursday.
I thought Tom Baker was the best Dr Who and Lost in Space was brilliant on a Sunday morning.

WallBuilder
12-10-2004, 23:25
I don't think there was a 'best' Doctor Who, it just depends on which one you grew up with, therefore I'd say Jon Pertwee but I also like watching the one before him Patrick Troughton, After Tom Baker though the series degenerated rapidly, degenerated to such an extent I can scarcely remember the other doctors and no story lines at all.
Lost in space was fun to watch as a child but even then I think I noticed all the aliens looked a little too human, the later film was much more enjoyable and at least you didn't feel like smacking the little kid as I wanted to in the series.
Have you ever noticed how Robbie the Robot has appeared in loads of other programs, I'm sure the robot in Lost in Space was a retarded cousin of his.

vidster
12-10-2004, 23:43
Yeah, it's funny how characters get recycled in sci-fi programs.
I've noticed how one of the characters in the new Galactica advert looks like a certain Dr Julian Bashir off Deep Space 9. I'm not sure yet though!

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 00:01
Don't forget Jerri Ryan and Marina Sirtis have appeared in Stargate, one of the things that still bugs me about the new series Enterprise is that the captain is the easily recognisable Scott Bakkula [I'm sure I've spelt that wrong]
I'd almost forgot to mention possibly one of the best and most original sci-fi series.......FARSCAPE, please don't ask me to choose between that and Star Trek. If you've never seen it try to get to see the episode where they all sqwtch bodies, some of the one liners are brill.

vidster
13-10-2004, 00:22
I loved Farscape!. I also liked the way the ending, was an ending, then again, with Farscape you never know?. I think Scorpius is now working with me :hihi: . Imagine Star Trek with someone that Farted as much as Rygel!.

Talking about easily recognisable captains. What the hell is Hercules doing on the Andromeda...?.
I want a Rommie or a Trance!

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 00:33
The Andromeda, why are so many spaceships streamlined after all theirs no friction in space. You can keep Trance she was cute when she was purple but now looks to hard. Rommie on the other hand looks and intelligence, shame she's an android.
The ending in Farscape isn't the end, I've been hearing a persistant rumour that a four part mini series has been filmed to stop all of the complaints, I still think the people who decided to axe it should be axed themselves. I tried to get some further info off the Farscape web site but it isn't clear when it's going to be appearing on our screens [the mini series] and they never replied to my e-mail.
Why does the captain in that new series Crusade look so familiar?

vidster
13-10-2004, 00:39
CONFESSION!!!. I have never seen Crusade i'm afraid.
Did you watch any programs like Earth Above And Beyond, or First Wave?
Ohh, and you can't forget the old baby 'V'. Hmm, I feel hungry, where's the nearest rat?

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 01:11
This is the second time they've tried to run Crusade, unfortunately it's totally forgetable, Space above and beyond and First Wave never grabbed my attention, they were both a bit to gung-ho for my liking. V was a good idea but yet again it was another America saves the world, though in V I don't think the world came into it much at all. I remember the guinea pig being slowly swallowed but as they looked so reptilian how come they had skin tight masks on and then looked completely human?
Apart from the odd eating bit the special effects in that series were really bad. I watched quite a lot of Earth Final Conflict one of the few american series that actually did go out of America for some episodes.
If there's one thing I hate it's those pesky americans taking a good book and ruining it, one film I still haven't forgiven them for was called Enemy Mine, the book was great, the film had an ending that almost had me throwing something at the screen.
There have been a few sci-fi series that weren't given a chance, two that I can recall is one about some people finding the domed city of Atlantis under the sea and then there was one about a family group ending up lost in the Bermuda Triangle, no doubt the sci-fi channel will air them again one day.

Kry10
13-10-2004, 10:14
I am a MASSIVE Red Dwarf fan, as if the name wasn't enough of a clue, lol.

I am also very much into every aspect of sci-fi imaginable.

Has anyone noticed that in Enterprise, one of the episodes featured the other member of Quantum Leap, Hal, as a prison officer type character, funny that, heh, might have been as a kind of nod to Quantum Leap.

xafier
13-10-2004, 10:43
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
why are so many spaceships streamlined after all theirs no friction in space.

streamlined = sexy... you wouldnt think the enterprise was as nice if it was a big cube like the borg ships now would you? :P

If you notice its generally star-ships that are nicely shaped, freighters (sp?) are generally big ugly rectangle things...

I mean think of the millenium falcon... wouldnt be as sweet if it was some randomly ugly shape would it? :P

and theres no friction in space? you know this for a fact huh? personally I've never been in space, but I would imagine there are affects on speed due to collisions with space dust, small fragments in space and all sorts of other things...

also, something like the enterprise would be harder to hit due to its shape than a huge cube ala the borg... one big flat surface seems an easier target to me than something really curvy!

anyways, I watch a lot of Star Trek TNG, DS9 and voyager and enterprise... also like Stargate, Fargate a bit... and LOVE Red Dwarf!

dont get to watch much though cus I dont got sky :(

JoeP
13-10-2004, 10:51
I'm a big Trek fan - mainly DS9 but the rest score heavily with me. last series of Enterprise was pretty neat!

Farscape was amazing - anyone else here catch 'Firefly'?

Also was a big fan of Dark Skies (sort of X Files Lite) and, of course, The X Files.

Joe

Lickable
13-10-2004, 11:45
I love

ST Voyager
ST Deep space nine
ST TNG
ST Enterprise

:D

I also like that may or may not be sci fi, but are good all the same...

American Gothic
Carnivale
Millennium
Kingdom Hospital
Futurama

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 16:33
Originally posted by Kry10
I.

Has anyone noticed that in Enterprise, one of the episodes featured the other member of Quantum Leap, Hal, as a prison officer type character, funny that, heh, might have been as a kind of nod to Quantum Leap.
I wouldn't say that I'm a true Trekkie or Trekker or whatever they call themselves, but yes I did notice the guy from Quantum Leap name of Al, I sincerly hope though that it wasn't even a brief nod to Quantum Leap as it was an apalling series and hardly worth the numerous repeats it seems to get.

vidster
13-10-2004, 16:42
Can you remember the episode of DS9 where all the characters were human and working in the comic book indusry?.
I'm sat there for about 5 mins thinking "Who the hell does he remind me of"? :loopy:

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 16:45
I wouldn't say that the Enterprise was very stream lined but then it wouldn't really matter as their sheilds enclose the entire ship in an elongated sphere. I suppose they look more pleasing on the eye or 'sexy' but if you're not going to be entering atmosphere it does seem to be unneccesary.
The Millenium Falcon looked to me as though it had been stepped on, sorry but I detest those particular films.
Joe please don't mention 'Firefly 'again about as interesting as watching paint dry.

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 16:48
Originally posted by vidster
Can you remember the episode of DS9 where all the characters were human and working in the comic book indusry?.
I'm sat there for about 5 mins thinking "Who the hell does he remind me of"? :loopy:
How could you do this to me?
Either my memory is getting rreally bad or I've missed an episode , [SCREAM<SCREAM] Please tell me you were joking

JoeP
13-10-2004, 16:59
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
How could you do this to me?
Either my memory is getting rreally bad or I've missed an episode , [SCREAM<SCREAM] Please tell me you were joking

Ahem....

Firefly

;)

You've missed TWO episodes - Sisko had a couple of 'Orb' experiences in which he was a 1950s science fiction writer called Benny. The other crew characters were either friends or colleagues at the science fiction magazine. O'Brien played a great Asimov character. Sisko ends up getting hospitalised at the end of the first one, and in the second story he's in an insane asylum, writing the adventures of DS9 on the wall. All he has to do to get out is to stop writing the stories.

Very good stuff.

Joe

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 17:39
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the memory jogger, I can remember the one of Sisko in the cell writing on the wallsbut not the other, how infuriating. There must be some one in the fan club that I can contact who's got the video's I'm obviously going to have to investigate this further otherwise I suspect sleepless nights might be in the offing.

JoeP
13-10-2004, 18:38
Hi Wallbuilder,

If it helps, the episodes are 'Far Beyond the Stars', which is the original story, in series 6, and 'Shadows and Symbols' is the one where Sisko's in the asylum. That's in Series 7; it's quite early on in the Series, I seem to remember, because we're still getting used to Ezri Dax.

They're a couple of my favourite episodes.

Joe

sccsux
13-10-2004, 18:46
I quite enjoyed "Earth - Final Conflict", as well as 1stWave, the original ST and the recently finished (Monday) Invisible Man.


Filmwise, has to be Blade Runner.

JoeP
13-10-2004, 19:01
Originally posted by sccsux
I quite enjoyed "Earth - Final Conflict", as well as 1stWave, the original ST and the recently finished (Monday) Invisible Man.


Filmwise, has to be Blade Runner.

Oh wow! Forgot about First Wave. That was great! Earth Final Conflict I enjoyed but sort of lost track of somewhere along the way.

First Wave was brilliant. The first episode was stunning.

Someone else mentioned Carnivale - I started watching this but then lost two episodes due to travel and other commitments, and felt that it's the sort of thing that needs concentration.

So, I'll probably be waiting to catch it next time around!

Blade Runner was an awesome film. The opening sequence is still utterly amazing and the cinematography is great. For once the Director's Cut was a great idea!

Joe

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 20:39
Bladerunner, dark moody and very atmospheric and the critics loved it. If you throw loads and loads of money into the making of a film and then use the clever blue or green background technology of course it's going to be an eye catching experience.
Try taking another look at 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' consider when it was made and then try to tell me that it's not one of the most clever films for it's time with it's eye catching cinematography,
p.s. Thanks Joe for the DS9 info

JoeP
13-10-2004, 20:44
The Day The Earth Stood Still is quite effective - they did the usual Hollywood thing of messing around with the story it was based on, but it was a good film.

I have a great liking for 'Forbidden Planet' - the 1950s original, not the musical dooberry! The idea of the 'monster from the id' scared the bejabers out of me when I was a kid. I remember seeing a load of 50s and 60s science fiction films in my childhood or early adolescence, on TV on a weekday evening. Forbidden Planet, Them, The Day The Earth Stood Still...all sorts of stuff.

Joe

vidster
13-10-2004, 20:54
First wave was good at first and then it turned brilliant when crazy Eddie came into it more and more.

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 21:06
We can't really imagine how scary films like Forbidden Planet or Them were when they were first released. probably in thirty years or so people will be saying 'what's so scary about Alien or Species.
A lot of the sci-fi nowadays seems to rely on scare tactics which I personally think is a shame, you sit watching the film thinking to yourself 'I wouldn't be that silly, let the cat get killed' or similar.
Anybody seen 'The Butterfly Effect' yet it sounds interesting.

cognacbernha
13-10-2004, 21:58
Terry Prattchet has to be the funniest sci fi writer of the last decade or more. As for other good sci fi books,I would love to find another copy of "Canticle for Leibowitz".Can`t remember the authors name but it was a brilliant read. T.v. programmes at the moment have to have Lexx at number one,(if only for xev`s luscious curves and lips,lol),as it has some really good story lines. Red Dwarf in at No2 cos I recognis something of a peculiar similarity between the scouser and myself,pmsl. Postman Pat has had to be demoted some few places as they`ve changed their theme song to something that is supposedly more politically correct and I can`t sing along with it now.
However,the real sci fi question here is,"Why won`t my smilies appear on my postings.
Cheers bros,
Ant.

WallBuilder
13-10-2004, 22:46
Try the author Walter Miller, I may be wrong on the first name but have got this book in my 2000 plus titles but am feeling too feeble to stagger upstairs. Story set in the futuree I seem to remember and some sort of religious guy,
Terry Pratchett and the discworld series was more what I would call science fantasy rather than science fiction or maybe you're thinking of his books about the alien little folk a bit like the Borrowers, three books that I recall Truckers, Diggers and Wings

vidster
13-10-2004, 22:48
Originally posted by cognacbernha

However,the real sci fi question here is,"Why won`t my smilies appear on my postings.
Cheers bros,
Ant.

Hmmm, maybe they are being beamed to an alternate universe?. This could be a case for Moulder and Scully!. Please tell us what process you use to display the said alien 'smilies'.

JoeP
14-10-2004, 06:39
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
Try the author Walter Miller, I may be wrong on the first name but have got this book in my 2000 plus titles but am feeling too feeble to stagger upstairs. Story set in the futuree I seem to remember and some sort of religious guy,


'A Canticle for Leibowitz' - definitely Walter M Miller.

Excellent book - one of the first science fiction novels I remember reading that made me think! It follows the development of science and technology after a nuclear war by a monastery, and how eventually the world they build up goes back in to war again.

Very complex story, well worth a read! My copy seems to have gone walkies as well - last time I read it was a copy borrowed from the library!

Joe

sccsux
14-10-2004, 17:02
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
Bladerunner......

If you throw loads and loads of money into the making of a film and then use the clever blue or green background technology of course it's going to be an eye catching experience.

It's not the cinematic effects within BR that gets me.

It's the actual story of trying to find ones-self with no background history to work from, then comming to terms with your own mortality (or maybe I'm looking too deeply into things here)?


Earth - FC almost lost the plot when Kinkade bowed out (how to get Lt Com Boone in to the story line was a bit comical)! but it evened out after a few more episodes..


Terry Pratchett is OK (in a deranged kinda way - too long working with radio-active materials?) but can get (in some of the novel) get a little "samey"?


Don't think we're gonna get any more FW though :-(

WallBuilder
14-10-2004, 17:31
[i]It's the actual story of trying to find ones-self with no background history to work from, then comming to terms with your own mortality (or maybe I'm looking too deeply into things here)?[/B]

And there was me thinking that people watch films for a bit of escapist fun, boy do you remind me of A level english and having to be able to read Shakespeare or Billy Wobblestick and recognise all the different levels. I often used to think did he really write it with all the so called levels or are we reading to much into it?

vidster
14-10-2004, 21:57
Just watched the new Battlestar Galactica eposode.
The jury is definately still out on this one. I'll have to watch the second episode tomorrow and see if it gets any better!

WallBuilder
14-10-2004, 22:56
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA

I found this first episode far more engrossing than the original series and slightly more adult. Weird watching Julian as a womaniser he had such bad luck on DS9.
I'll be watching tomorrow if only to find out was he or wasn't he killed, sorry can't say to much in case someone is reading this and has taped the episode.

vidster
14-10-2004, 22:58
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA

I found this first episode far more engrossing than the original series and slightly more adult. Weird watching Julian as a womaniser he had such bad luck on DS9.
I'll be watching tomorrow if only to find out was he or wasn't he killed, sorry can't say to much in case someone is reading this and has taped the episode.

I'm not 100% sure it is Julian?.

WallBuilder
14-10-2004, 23:28
Well they say everyone in the world has a double, [I feel sorry for mine] Just for my own satisfaction I can see I'm going to have to start looking at cast lists to get a definite answer. but disregarding the hair the voice is the same.

vidster
14-10-2004, 23:31
It's just that his face seems to be 'filled out' a lot more than Julian's?.
Where have i seen the guy who's playing Apollo?

WallBuilder
14-10-2004, 23:40
Yes youngster it happens to most people as they get older, Apollo doesn't ring any bells with me but I'm quite sure out there on the net they'll be loads of info on the guy, trouble sometimes is finding the relevant info.
If you're into Star Trek did you know that the actress who played Nurse Christine Chapel is not only the computers voice in TNG but also Roxanne Troi, Deanna's mother. Sorry about the spelling of names but they vary on diffeerent web sites as well.

Kry10
15-10-2004, 10:58
Originally posted by cognacbernha
Terry Prattchet has to be the funniest sci fi writer of the last decade or more.

I agree, Terry Pratchett is in my opinion a brilliant author, he won the Carnegie Award for childrens books or something like that, heh.

I am reading Going Postal at the moment, good book, very funny, well worth getting.

Moon Maiden
16-10-2004, 08:51
I love Stargate, and most of the Deluise brothers work...even Seaquest DSV to a point :| Can't help thinking of jaws though.

Nos got me watching Crusade have to say i enjoyed it better than Babylon 5 which Nos loves :confused: .
I do like Star Trek but only really enjoyed Voyager, they don't seem as cardboard in their acting as the other spin offs.

Favourite Sci Fi film has got to be Dune...the proper version with Sting and Kyle Maclaclan in it. Far more atmospheric than the pathetic series they have done. Would laos rate Frank Herberts books as m y favourite sci-fi read too, I have the prequels by his son....my son bears the scars of my love for the book as he now bears a name from the first book.
I would have liked to see David Lynch do the rest of Franks books but I hear he costs far too much money so they won't let him. Damned shame I hate with a passion that series sci-fi has made :rant:

Also a fan of Anime, I wish sci-fi would run their anime nights again *sniff*

WallBuilder
16-10-2004, 17:02
Watched the second episode of Battlestar Galactica and still can't make up my mind whether I like it or not, I think my feelings on it may be being infuenced by the terrible original series. I'll probably have to watch it next week and then possibly the one after, then I may try missing an episode, if I don't cry upon missing it then obviously I can't really like it.
Anime.......? PLease!!!
There again I've often said the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same things.

vidster
16-10-2004, 18:19
I still can't make my mind up about Battlestar Galactica as well!.
No doubt i'll end up watching the entire series though.
I'm still suprised no one has brought Mutant X up?

coopster1974
16-10-2004, 19:26
The Battlestar Galactica that your talking about - is it the same as was on Scifi channel earlier this year or is it the series leading on from that?

Hope i've not missed anything I havent seen yet!!

WallBuilder
17-10-2004, 01:25
I'm so sad I've just been sat watching the repeat of Battlestar Galactica on Sky one, they are heralding it as a brand new series so can't say whether it's been aired on sci-fi channel. I would think though that if it had been aired before I would of seen at least part of it but then I am getting older and my memory isn't like it used to be so don't hold me to that.
One thing that I am enjoying is the background music quiet and haunting with a female vocalist at times which for me evokes strong feelings. In case you've not spotted it the most noticeable time you hear it is when the commander is walking through the morgue in the hanger bay.
Roll on Monday......... oh no I'm wishing my life away.

coopster1974
17-10-2004, 01:58
It was a two parter and from what I remember there was a female Cylon who had duped Baltar.

There was a also a bit where they found an old ammo dump and Adama got trapped with some guy who had been hiding there.

I hope this is what was aired on Sky - it means I havent missed any of the new series!!

vidster
17-10-2004, 02:03
That's what we have just been watching coopster1974!. The guy that was trapped with Adama turned out to be a Cylon.
The end of this episode is where it will carry on Monday!.:thumbsup:

coopster1974
17-10-2004, 02:06
Never fear - just checked Digitalspy.co.uk and what's just been shown was the mini-series from earlier this year - woohoo all is not lost!! :lol:

I'm so sad - I downloaded the original soundtrack to BG last week and had it blaring out of the car on the way to work tonight!!

Strange - the only time I ever listen to music involving clasical instruments is from Scifi films, starwars, superman, star trek etc.

vidster
17-10-2004, 02:09
Originally posted by coopster1974


Strange - the only time I ever listen to music involving clasical instruments is from Scifi films, starwars, superman, star trek etc.

That's because it only sounds any good in Sci-fi! :)

StarSparkle
18-10-2004, 12:15
Big fan here of the Star Trek universe, from TOS to Enterprise, but I especially like Deep Space Nine and Voyager. DSN for its strong characters and their development, and overall good writing; Voyager for its great storylines, derring-do(?) and of course Tom Paris is very easy on the eye! :D

Also love:

Firefly
Farscape
Starcops
Blake's 7
and, nearly forgot, Dr Who!

StarSparkle

WallBuilder
18-10-2004, 16:49
I was just thinking about 'Tom Paris being easy on the eye' okay you may of got a point with him but then you'd also have to agree there have been some pretty unattractive male actors on Star Trek as well. That's not really my point, I then started thinking about the female actors from Star Trek, can you remember any unappealing ones? From Uhura onwards. I'm really struggling, even the female admiral that didn't get on with Piccard wasn't a dog, [Sorry to all female readers] but you know what I mean

JoeP
18-10-2004, 17:29
Hmmm.....

The Duras sisters in TNG were a bit scary; having said that, if you did call them dogs you'd probably find your innards decorating the inside of their boudoirs, if Klingon women have such things.

:)

StarSparkle
18-10-2004, 17:40
I can't say I've spent a lot of time wondering about whether female Star Trek characters are visually appealing or not, but you've got me thinking now ......

This is really struggling, but all I can come up with is on Deep Space Nine when Quark is transformed into a female Ferengi (for some reason I can't currently remember). Even there though, he may have passed as attractive for a Ferengi female - who knows?????

I'm starting to scare myself now, so I'll leave it there ......

StarSparkle

WallBuilder
18-10-2004, 18:19
I'd forgotten about Quarks mother, intelligent, not afraid to air her views , but attractive? Maybe it was her inner kindness or maybe I've just known some really ugly girls.
The Duras sisters left a lot to be desired and that heavy Klingon garb didn't do much for them but the older sister was quite curvy in a nice way.
I would of thought that most girls would of gone for Riker or was the beard too off-putting?I always though Tasha Yarr scrubbed up quite nicely, sorry not trying to be sexist just a red blooded male, oink, oink.

StarSparkle
18-10-2004, 19:29
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
I would of thought that most girls would of gone for Riker or was the beard too off-putting?

Go for Riker? - er, no. The beard certainly didn't help!

Still, there are a goodly number of attractive males in the Star Trek universe, to provide eye candy for the female viewers. Tom Paris as mentioned, Chakotay, Dr Bashir and, especially, Trip Tucker from Enterprise. Keeping the best till last, despite the silly name!

StarSparkle :D

WallBuilder
18-10-2004, 23:37
I'm amazed, no Kirk and no Spock, I remember watching the episode of DS9 when they went back to the episode of 'the trouble with tribbles', I found it quite fascinating how they managed to merge the two things. There is a bit were Dax admits to liking the look of Spock, I had a bruise on my arm for ages as the girl I was sat watcjing it with punched me on the arm and declared 'SEE' I know it used to annoy her that Kirk was always loosing his shirt and never the calm cool vulcan.

I've watched the next episode of Battlestar Galactica and my only comment is 'Hummphh'

vidster
18-10-2004, 23:41
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER


I've watched the next episode of Battlestar Galactica and my only comment is 'Hummphh'

Ditto!. I do'nt know what to think. One minuite i like it the next minuite i'm thinking it's S**t. What's with all the human looking Cylons?.

waggy
19-10-2004, 01:10
theres a new battle star galactica series? :wow:

My fav sci fi is Babylon 5. Though quite a lot of people dont like it as they cant follow it as well as series like star trek.

With babylon 5, to get interested in it and understand whats going on you need to watch quite a lot of them in order (at least from 2nd series), as it has some very complicated plot lines where things that happen in one series are explained properly a few series later (there were 5 in total). You also get to see the characters develop which you dont really see in sci fi series like star trek.

JoeP
19-10-2004, 08:15
Originally posted by waggy
theres a new battle star galactica series? :wow:

My fav sci fi is Babylon 5. Though quite a lot of people dont like it as they cant follow it as well as series like star trek.

With babylon 5, to get interested in it and understand whats going on you need to watch quite a lot of them in order (at least from 2nd series), as it has some very complicated plot lines where things that happen in one series are explained properly a few series later (there were 5 in total). You also get to see the characters develop which you dont really see in sci fi series like star trek.

To some degree I'd agree - the exception I'd say would be Deep Space 9 in the Star Trek franchise. The Dominion War arc and Sisko's acceptance of his role as the Emissary did follow through for most of the show after series 2. This was one reason I liked DS9 more than TNG or most of Voyager - whilst the latter had their issues with the Borg I never felt they carried it off as well. Enterprise did OK with the 'Xindi' series, and I still have hopes for the Temporal Cold War arc, but we'll see.

But B5 - yup - I've tried getting in to it a couple of times but failed miserably. Perhaps I need an empty weekend and a box of DVDs....:)

I watched Battlestar Gallactica last night and was reasonably impressed. I though the motif of the character played by the actor who played Julian Bashir in DS9 being psychologically 'accompanied' by the blonde baddie (give me time to get names and stuff sorted....I never even watched the first series years ago) was quite neat, though reminiscent of the relationship between John Crichton and Scorpius on Farscape. Also, the blonde in the red dress reminds me of the character in 'The Matrix' who turns in to an Agent in the simulator program.

But, it worked for me - I'll probably try and watch it next week...

Joe

vidster
19-10-2004, 16:03
Originally posted by JoePritchard
though reminiscent of the relationship between John Crichton and Scorpius on Farscape.

Joe

I doubt they'll be able to pull it off as good as Crichton and Scorpy though.

JoeP
19-10-2004, 20:19
Would have to agree - the Scorpious / Crichton relationship was so good at so many different level.

When I was watching BG last night I was reminded of another series I quite enjoyed - 'Space : Above and Beyond'. The general 'feel' of the ships reminded me of that series.

Joe

StarSparkle
19-10-2004, 20:24
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
I'm amazed, no Kirk and no Spock, I remember watching the episode of DS9 when they went back to the episode of 'the trouble with tribbles', I found it quite fascinating how they managed to merge the two things. There is a bit were Dax admits to liking the look of Spock, I had a bruise on my arm for ages as the girl I was sat watcjing it with punched me on the arm and declared 'SEE' I know it used to annoy her that Kirk was always loosing his shirt and never the calm cool vulcan.


No, neither Kirk nor Spock ever did anything for me, I'm afraid.

Although I used to know a girl who was very keen on Spock, and my sister has always been a big fan of Kirk. She also rather admires DS9's Gul Dukat, but we'll pass quickly over that! (Although I have to say he did have a lot of style and panache in the early series, before he went completely doolally in the later episodes).

StarSparkle :)

PS Totally agree with you that "The Trouble with Tribbles" episode was fascinating. One of these days I plan to watch the original TOS tribble episode on a screen alongside the DS9 tribble episode, to try to spot the joins!

vidster
20-10-2004, 00:04
I've just watched this week's SG1 and Atlantis.
SG1: I solved the problem straight away. Get one of those box's used by the Ghostbusters and suck Anubus in to it. Job done:; . The SG1 team once again 'bounced' off each other brilliantly and Jack O Neill made me laugh once again without saying a word. A good episode!

Atlantis: Thought it was very good. Major Shackleton (not sure of the names yet!) is reminding me of a certain John Chrichton character already!. Brilliant to kill off Robert Patrick in only the second episode. I was'nt expecting that!. I'm wondering if the love intrest will be with the Jennifer Lopes/ Beyonce lookalike and major Shackleton?. My favourite character has to be the Scottish guy, he makes me laugh. Now that major Shackleton has been told to pick his team, i think his number2 will be the black guy that accompanied him all the way through tonights episode.
Looking forward to next week!

waggy
20-10-2004, 16:55
Originally posted by JoePritchard


But B5 - yup - I've tried getting in to it a couple of times but failed miserably. Perhaps I need an empty weekend and a box of DVDs....:)

Joe

Hehe yeah you need to give b5 time to get into it, its well worth it once your into it though, ive watched them over and over and still noticing new things and links. Watching the movie Babylon5: In the begining gives you a jump start to understanding the story.

If you cant get into it then give b5: crusade a go, its not as good as b5 but its easier to get into as it takes part on one ship so thers fewer characters to keep track of.

Originally posted by JoePritchard
When I was watching BG last night I was reminded of another series I quite enjoyed - 'Space : Above and Beyond'. The general 'feel' of the ships reminded me of that series.

Joe

I also loved space above and beyond, aparently it got decent ratings over here but not in the states so they pulled it and left it on a cliff hanger :(

Ill give the new BG a look!

WallBuilder
21-10-2004, 00:48
Getting us away from Babylon 5 as fast as possible, here's another blast from the not so distant past 'Alien Nation'
The series was great, highly entertaining if you watched enough of them to follow all the in jokes and the odd alien culture the ones from the spaceship were equally odd. I seem to remember a film, then another film that started off the tv series and I thought there was another film length episode with the same actors from the series.
Poor old George trying to deal with his wife and family as they became more enamoured with earth customs and watching him drink that semi congealed extremely off milk still has me gagging slightly, not to mention the raw beaver complete with fur.
On a completely unrelated topic, who remembers the cartoon giant robot Gigantor,? For ages I thought it was my fertile imagination playing tricks on me, imagine my relief when I found I hadn't been imagining the thing.

vidster
21-10-2004, 16:37
I remember watching Starfleet on a Sunday morning when i was younger.

belarion
21-10-2004, 18:46
Hi

I was brought up by a range of sci-fi programmes such as Doctor Who,with Tom Baker,Peter Davidson and so forth as well as Blakes 7,Space 1999,Buck Rogers etc
I am really looking forward to the new series of Doctor Who,i wondered if it will be in the same league as the original series when it comes on Tv
take care
Belarion

WallBuilder
21-10-2004, 21:42
The new series of Doctor Who must be better than some of the final attempts that were aired, just let's hope Bonnie Langford? you know the screamy one, doesn't make a come back.
Space 1999, I don't know whether anyone ever read the books but they were a LOT racier, in one of them the doctor Helena Russell is topless, however not in the story when it was filmed.
I can just remember the explosive decompressions that happened on a regular basis weren't up to much, special effects wise.
Those handd held communicators with the little TV screen picture, oh how we laughed at such science fiction, did they know something we didn't?

WallBuilder
23-10-2004, 21:25
Just been watching Stargate and Atlantis as last Tuesday I went to a poetry recital [no joking] and my video switched itself off [new-fangled technology]
Anyway Stargate was fun, Jack seems to be settling in behind his desk and yet again an arch enemy has been given a chance to re-appear in another episode.
However Atlantis had me yawning, I'd heard the special effects of the city coming out of the sea were amazing.... No they weren't. Also the story line hardly grabbed my attention it was far too easy to see the outcome and all this new technology but they still carry guns that make a lot of noise and seem able to shoot indefinitely, how come they're not all carrying Zats, which would seem to be a better weapon for close range work.

WallBuilder
09-11-2004, 00:14
Just thought I'd let the forum know I'm really enjoying the series Battlestar Galactica, it's come to the point that I am switching my answer machine on and my telephone off on Mondays between 8 and 9.
Still struggling with Atlantis but being a sad sci-fi fan will probably stick it out if only to see what happens.

vidster
09-11-2004, 00:23
I am the other way round. I am struggling to wath Battlestar Galactica but enjoying Atlantis. V strange?

WallBuilder
09-11-2004, 00:53
Not strange in the least in fact it's brilliant, how many times have I had to endure the taunt that all sci-fi fans are alike, like a bunch of sad sheep. Although if some-one does have a dig at me I do sometimes threaten to 'EXTERMINATE' them

JoeP
09-11-2004, 08:06
To my surprise I've found myself quite settling in to Battle Star Galactica, though I wish I'd watched the blessed mini-series so I had a handle on who was who.....:)

NatalieSheff
09-11-2004, 09:59
i love star trek - hate star wars (never seen it actually) love terry pratchett although hes more fantasy/fiction

Yodameister
09-11-2004, 10:07
I hate Science Fiction in books that has a lower standard of writing than normal fiction but they think they can get away with it cos mostly geeks read it.

As an example of that I'd quote "The Garden of Rama" by Arthur C Clarke, it is quite possibly the worst novel I have ever read. Which is very sad considering "Rendezvous with Rama" is one of the best.

NatalieSheff
09-11-2004, 10:10
rememmber the x files? i had two of their books when i was a kid

nick2
09-11-2004, 10:34
Originally posted by Yodameister
I hate Science Fiction in books that has a lower standard of writing than normal fiction but they think they can get away with it cos mostly geeks read it.

As an example of that I'd quote "The Garden of Rama" by Arthur C Clarke, it is quite possibly the worst novel I have ever read. Which is very sad considering "Rendezvous with Rama" is one of the best.

I thought all the Rama books were pretty crappy.

I want Space 1999 repeated, when I was a kid it all seemed quite believable, now I'm not to sure.

hexdrummer
09-11-2004, 11:09
Is anyone here a member of the University Star Society? (used to be the Star Trek Society)

StarSparkle
09-11-2004, 13:02
I'm finding "Battlestar Galactica" is fast becoming unmissable - have high hopes for it.

Of course, it possibly helps that I didn't watch the original series, although I did catch enough of it to have problems trying to remember Starbuck is now a girlie!

StarSparkle

JoeP
09-11-2004, 13:11
Originally posted by nick2
I thought all the Rama books were pretty crappy.

I want Space 1999 repeated, when I was a kid it all seemed quite believable, now I'm not to sure.

I liked Rendezvous with Rama, and I like Clarke's short stories immensley. Another good one of his novels is 'A Fall of Moondust'.

The best part of Space 1999 was the spaceships. I thought they looked well cool.

Joe

vidster
09-11-2004, 17:29
If they bring a little fluffy dog/bear/robot thingy in to Battlestar, i may just change my mind and become hooked!:thumbsup:

WallBuilder
09-11-2004, 19:50
Originally posted by vidster
If they bring a little fluffy dog/bear/robot thingy in to Battlestar, i may just change my mind and become hooked!:thumbsup:

If that happens I'm unhooking, sorry can't say more as Stargate is duew to start and I need a coffee.

WallBuilder
17-11-2004, 00:24
Does anyone know how long this new series of Battlestar galactica is on for. in other words is it just going to finish with no resolution. Also is this a one off series or is it the start of a long running thing that will still be around in a couple of years and three seasons later.
Monday and tuesday nights are busy nights for me as there are so many things to watch including the Dead Zone on sci-fi. Still sticking it out with Atlantis but find the acting very wooden and what a surprise all the aliens from this far away galaxy talk english. Felt rather sorry for Jack in tonights episode Sam's hooked up with some-one again.

vidster
17-11-2004, 00:39
Well we all know Sam's bloke is going to die! and it's about time Hammond came back so Jack can get back in the old routine.

WallBuilder
17-11-2004, 08:53
Originally posted by vidster
Well we all know Sam's bloke is going to die! and it's about time Hammond came back so Jack can get back in the old routine.

Not everyone knew that Sam was going to lose yet another bloke, another one dying? This is obviously not the safest person to get romantically involved with.
I think Jack is doing a great job filling Hammond's shoes, it's so funny as he so doesn't like his new found responsibility.
After watching Atlantis the thought occurred to me that a new spin-off series that could of been entertaining was if they still had that alternate reality mirror/doorway, at least then I wouldn't of been tutting so much at everybody speaking english, at least in Star Trek they got round this with the universal translator.

NatalieSheff
17-11-2004, 12:16
quantum leap! and love star trek, never seen star wars, but it sounds pants

vidster
17-11-2004, 17:14
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
Not everyone knew that Sam was going to lose yet another bloke, another one dying? This is obviously not the safest person to get romantically involved with.

I was only guessing about him dying, but being as though everyone close to her either dies or get's taken back to their own world, it only makes sense that there may be trouble in store.

WallBuilder
18-11-2004, 17:34
Sam does have amazingly bad luck with her partners but maybe this one will be different, though I am beginning to wonder about this top secret stargate project as an awful lot of people seem to know about it. How long do you reckon it'll be before Pete? Sam's new love gets to go through it?

vidster
23-11-2004, 00:59
I have to admit that i am well impressed with 'The 4400'.
They have obviously come back with different abilities and i can't wait to see how it all pans out!.


Another sci-fi program i remembered. Odyssey 5!!. I thought it was pretty decent. The cast were portrayed as human for a change and not robots.

I am also having difficulty remembering the name of the program that the 'son' in Odyssey 5 went on to make?. He was a nobody that inadvertently got injected with some sort of Nanobots and became super human.

Was it Jake 2.0?

WallBuilder
23-11-2004, 02:00
The sci-fi programs Odyssey five and Jake 0.2?, both are titles I seem to recognise but can't recollect the storylines at all. Not so long ago there was a rather bad series about a shuttle crew who witness the earth being destroyed and are then sent back a few years into their younger bodies to try and avert the disaster. Yes this one was so unexciting I can't even think of the name. It wasn't Odyssey five was it?
Now getting on to 4400, I sat and watched it with an open mind, and am mildly but only mildly curious to know how it turns out. I know it's only fiction but would any government allow the people to just re-enter society with no questions answered? This spoilt it for me as although I like escapist fiction I don't want to be sat there thinking 'that's daft'.
Battlestar Galactica is still managing to keep me interested and will continue to watch it, along with Stargate and as there isn't anything better on, Stargate Atlantis.

JoeP
23-11-2004, 10:33
Wallbuilder,

I think that the series about the space shuttle was Odyssey Five.

The Jake one was something about some bod being infected with nanotechnology which made him 'special' (not Ralph Wiggum special, superboy special!!)

Would agree with BSG - keeping me interested, though I STILL wish I'd been arsed to watch the mini-series. :) It requires watching, rather than you have it on in the background to provide eye candy.


Joe

msmouse
02-01-2005, 15:55
I am a massive sci-fi fan - my favourite author is John Wyndham who wrote the Kraken Wakes (in which the UK Government have to relocate to Sheffield becuse of rising sea levels!). He also wrote a book called 'Web' - his 'last, great, apocalyptic novel' - which, despite my having gone to immense trouble to lay my hands a on copy of it, I've never managed to actually read. Perhaps I'll make a New Years's resolution to read it, seeing as the stopping smoking is out of the window (for the time being anyway...).

JW also wrote some fab short stories - check out 'Pawley's Peepholes' about time travellers in his book 'The Seeds of Time' as being particularly good.

jonhanson
04-01-2005, 17:17
SG1 and Atlantis are the best, Battlestar galactica is ok.

Cant wait to see the crossover in Atlantis and SG1,just watched upto ep.15 in Atlantis, just getting the next one so it should start getting more interesting... should be a good ending in them both i hope!!!

miggy
06-01-2005, 18:55
Spent xmas catching up on trash tv, unaired UK episodes so I'll try not to give spoilers.

Stargate - always been a bit trashy but quite enjoyable. New series continuing well.

Atlantis - To be honest the writing is terribly sloppy, with as many holes as the roads in Crookes, reminds me of stargate's early years. Promising but inconsistent.

Firefly - Joss Whedon's effort, canned after 1 series. Basically a space western. Slow going and average earlier scripts, but good characters as you'd expect from a JW production. Improved considerably with time but Fox fluffed it (watch the DVD interviews to see how they botched it). Film coming out in September tho so all not lost.

Smallville - Classy stuff. Current series in UK is good, new one is better. Darkening up nicely and losing a bit of that teen flavour.

Battlestar Galactica - the new series - forget the old one, this is a different kettle of fish entirely. Dark and serious. "Space, Above and Beyond" only done properly. Very impressed.

Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars - Two 90 minute episodes to round off the tv series. Good stuff. Given that Farscape is second only to Smallville, and streets ahead of that Trekky malarchy and all other space sci fi, amazing to think it got canned (same for Angel, but that's another story). It was insane, but it was INSANE :) Didn't take itself too seriously.

Dead Zone: Only seen series one and two. Got better with time, recommended. Not got series three yet.

Tru Calling: Like most fellas I'm a sucker for Eliza Dushku, but although the idea is ok, the series dragged a bit and suffers from scripts with gaping holes in them, like most time travelling. New series due 2005, needs some work to succeed. Dead Zone is far better.

OC - ok, not sci-fi, but so trashy it's great.

Nip Tuck - as above!

Yes I'm a sad git but I don't care!!!

StarSparkle
06-01-2005, 19:51
Originally posted by miggy
Spent xmas catching up on trash tv, unaired UK episodes so I'll try not to give spoilers.

Stargate - always been a bit trashy but quite enjoyable. New series continuing well.

Atlantis - To be honest the writing is terribly sloppy, with as many holes as the roads in Crookes, reminds me of stargate's early years. Promising but inconsistent.

Firefly - Joss Whedon's effort, canned after 1 series. Basically a space western. Slow going and average earlier scripts, but good characters as you'd expect from a JW production. Improved considerably with time but Fox fluffed it (watch the DVD interviews to see how they botched it). Film coming out in September tho so all not lost.

Smallville - Classy stuff. Current series in UK is good, new one is better. Darkening up nicely and losing a bit of that teen flavour.

Battlestar Galactica - the new series - forget the old one, this is a different kettle of fish entirely. Dark and serious. "Space, Above and Beyond" only done properly. Very impressed.

Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars - Two 90 minute episodes to round off the tv series. Good stuff. Given that Farscape is second only to Smallville, and streets ahead of that Trekky malarchy and all other space sci fi, amazing to think it got canned (same for Angel, but that's another story). It was insane, but it was INSANE :) Didn't take itself too seriously.

Dead Zone: Only seen series one and two. Got better with time, recommended. Not got series three yet.

Tru Calling: Like most fellas I'm a sucker for Eliza Dushku, but although the idea is ok, the series dragged a bit and suffers from scripts with gaping holes in them, like most time travelling. New series due 2005, needs some work to succeed. Dead Zone is far better.

OC - ok, not sci-fi, but so trashy it's great.

Nip Tuck - as above!

Yes I'm a sad git but I don't care!!!


I agree completely with what you say about "Battlestar Galactica" (brilliant, unrecognisable from the earlier series) and "Farscape" but I think you're very harsh on "Firefly".

I found Firefly riveting viewing and thought the scripts were very witty and clever, of the standard I'd expect from the creator of Buffy. Very much looking forward to the film.

StarSparkle

miggy
06-01-2005, 20:05
I think the more Firefly the series went on the better it got. However the first 2-3 episodes were poor IMHO. In the DVD interview he explains why they were like they were (tv companies...).

I also think they could have done with not being quite so intent on everywhere looking like an american western setting. I'm not a fan of western's so it started to gripe.

Maybe next time I should actually keep the series when I get them - looks like a few people would watch them. Crookes is sci fi central don't you know.

Should do a classic sci fi film night sometime (quest for holy grail could be classed as sci fi/fantasy? Might force people to watch Grosse pointe blank as well just because it's such as classic)

StarSparkle
06-01-2005, 21:09
Originally posted by miggy
I think the more Firefly the series went on the better it got. However the first 2-3 episodes were poor IMHO. In the DVD interview he explains why they were like they were (tv companies...).

I also think they could have done with not being quite so intent on everywhere looking like an american western setting. I'm not a fan of western's so it started to gripe.

Maybe next time I should actually keep the series when I get them - looks like a few people would watch them. Crookes is sci fi central don't you know.

Should do a classic sci fi film night sometime (quest for holy grail could be classed as sci fi/fantasy? Might force people to watch Grosse pointe blank as well just because it's such as classic)

I do know what you mean about the American western theming in "Firefly" being a bit intrusive, but it didn't really bother me. I thought it could be quite an accurate idea of how space exploration could ultimately go - people living on the edge of 'civilisation', always pushing to move the frontier forward .....

I love your idea of making people watch "Grosse Pointe Blank", by the way - it's my favourite film, and I've lost count of the number of times I've watched it!

StarSparkle :thumbsup:

bobsyouruncle
10-01-2005, 04:45
john wyndham also wrote "day of the triffids" did he not? now that was good, the american '60's film (on sci-fi channel last week was a bit pants) but the series starrin john duttine was excellent!!

also a note to wall builder, Lwaxana Troi. (Majel Barrett) is the widow of star trek creator Gene Roddenberry, and did indeed give her voice to the computers in all star trk's (not sure about DS9, wasnt one i really took to).
She also played "number one" in the first Star Trek pilot "The Cage".
Anythin anyone like 2 know about, Star Trk, just post !!

bobsyouruncle
10-01-2005, 04:53
just to say about Star Trek women, you cant get better than 7of 9. legs upto her ears. she was hott!!

WallBuilder
10-01-2005, 10:24
I'd noticed that Majel Barrett has been associated with Star Trek from the original pilot but it was still a surprise when I realised that the quietish Nurse Chapel had turned into the mother from hell. I still snigger though when I watch the relationship between her and Captain Piccard.
I'm afraid though I'm going to have to disagree with reference to Jerri Ryan she's a bit to obvious I prefer Nicole Deboer who played Ezri Dax in Deep Space Nine, she's cute.

bobsyouruncle
10-01-2005, 10:54
hmmm, i know of the character, but for some strange reason, i never really got into DS9 or Enterprise with Scott Bakula, thought that was a bit naff to be honest.
Now, Voyager that was brill, captain janeway, she was cool.
enjoyed "Year of Hell"

WallBuilder
10-01-2005, 11:19
Enterprise grew on me and I even managed to forgive them for having Scott Bakkula as the captain. I also like the lass who plays the vulcan struggling to be unemotional whilst surrounded by all these so emotional humans, the portrayal of vulcans has come on so much more from the days of Spock and Kirk.
The main claim to fame with Voyager for me at any rate has got to the EMH, a holographic doctor who loved opera and I liked the stories where he was the main character. When he got sent back to the alpha quadrant and met a younger up-dated version of an EMH , the little digs they made at one another classic!

Greenback
10-01-2005, 11:42
It's probably just me, but I've never really been able to get into sci-fi on screen. Star Trek just does nothing for me, ditto Farscape, Stargate, etc. I watched the X-Files for a while, until it started getting daft, and Quantum Leap (of course!) but it's these space opera type things that just seem a bit inert and, well, dull.

Funny really, 'cos I've recently got quite into SF novels. Two of the best modern SF books I've read recently are The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell (first contact story about a Jesuit mission to Alpha centauri) and Light by M John Harrisson (a very strange, multi-faceted novel featuring quantum computers, a "beach" in space and AI spacecraft).

Anyone got any more recommendations?

bobsyouruncle
10-01-2005, 11:46
yeah the one with the new fedaration ship prometheus was called "message in a bottle" excellent effects when they used the "multi vector assault mode" totally brilliant!!

WallBuilder
10-01-2005, 22:29
I suspect we've unearthed a member of the Star Trek fan club. I grew up with Kirk and Spock on the TV and have from an early age loved sci-fi and after all there are worse things to be hooked on.
When it comes to reading though I tend not to recommend things as there is such a huge diversity out there, this probably explains why I've got a book collection of over 2000 paperbacks. If pushed though I'd probably recommend Robert Heinlein or Arthur C Clarke.
Going back to Star Trek though would any of the experts in this area like to explain to me how Kahn recognised Checkov as he wasn't in the episode Botany Bay

coopster1974
11-01-2005, 00:03
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
Going back to Star Trek though would any of the experts in this area like to explain to me how Kahn recognised Checkov as he wasn't in the episode Botany Bay


"Little known to most people, Chekov was working as an ensign in Engineering when Khan took over the Enterprise in the episode "Space Seed." ;-) Chances are that Khan saw him when he ran down there from the conference room. "

Saw this on a Star Trek blooper site. I think most Trekkers assume that Chekov was only promoted to bridge crew for season 2. Who are we to disagree?

WallBuilder
11-01-2005, 01:26
I hadn't thought to check Checkov's star fleet record, I'm assuming this is were this info has been gleened from.
Do find it slightly bizarre that some-one has gone to the trouble of creating all these sorts of records although even odder are the blue prints for most of the ships and the technical specs for the transporters and phasers and the like..
I'm sorry by the way getting the name of the episode so completely wrong Botany Bay was the name of the ship wasn't it?

vidster
11-01-2005, 01:33
Originally posted by WALLBUILDER
Do find it slightly bizarre that some-one has gone to the trouble of creating all these sorts of records although even odder are the blue prints for most of the ships and the technical specs for the transporters and phasers and the like..

I watched a program a few years ago and apparently there is a team of scientists working with the production team. The producers have a policy of not introducing new technology unless there is a good chance that it will be made some time in the future and there is sufficient evidence to prove that it may be possible in the future.

WallBuilder
11-01-2005, 01:59
I watched that program it was fascinating, the idea of actual techy scientists being involved in the creation of believable machinery. The warp drive I remember they weren't quite sure how it would work but there are a couple of theoretical possibilities apparently. Also that little hand held thing like a pepper pot that McCoy used to scan for injuries and other biometric data. The best bit though had to be the transporter and how the scientists got round the minor problems with atoms being in constant motion with the Heisenberg compensator i think it was called.
Who's to say though what new developments are in store for us which are first shown on sci-fi programs, talking computers could never happen could they?

vidster
11-01-2005, 02:05
Is'nt someone in the process of testing the transporter theory?.
I thought i read somewhere that a molecule had succesfully been 'moved' from one space to another through transporting technology.

WallBuilder
11-01-2005, 02:20
I think I've heard the same thing thinking back to past Horizon programs.
NASA are researching a workable warp drive or at least that is what the scientific bods are laughingly calling it. Theoretically it should be possible to fold space so it shouldn't be called a warp drive as the Enterprise did not travel by folding space, the eggheads did laugh!!!
I do remember watching a program about new inventions and the research that huge companies are doing and quite a few of the very serious scientists said that they had been influenced as kids by Star Trek which had led them down the science path and so it's not surprising that now they want to actually develop the things they saw back then.

bobsyouruncle
11-01-2005, 04:52
okay, anyone remember "Tripods"? written by john christopher it was on the beeb back in the early/mid 80's?
city of the masters, beanpole and all that? anyone else have more info...?

WallBuilder
11-01-2005, 14:55
I have a vague recollection of seeing this on TV but must admit the memories are a bit hazy. John Christopher wrote it as a triology
The White Mountains
The City of Gold and Lead
The Pool of Fire
An alien race have conquered the world and it has regressed into a medieval level and they control Earths population with mind control helmets that keep everyone nice and docile. Children are fitted with the helmet or cap in their early teens and so of course some manage to escape this fate and go on to destroy the aliens who live in domed cities in poisonous air.
The aliens had three legs hence the name 'Tripods and large three legged walking machines though whenever I think of three legs i think of Jake the Peg by Rolf Harris. not the most threatening image to conjure up.

bobsyouruncle
12-01-2005, 10:03
oh yes, i remember, they reminded me of the martians that were in the booklet that came with the war of the worlds musical cd/tape/record, which i have, still frightens me when im all alone with all the lights out and playing it with quite a lot of bass!!

Nooka
25-01-2005, 21:23
I just watched the last episode in the Battlestar Galactica series!

WOW :o

I really hope they make another series ive enjoyed this very much. Lots of excitement and suprises throughout! :clap:

SpiderPete
25-01-2005, 22:10
My fav sci-fi series are :

Bablyon 5 <for me THE best sci-fi series ever made, a continuing story arc that had you gripped. <plus checkov was in it>

Dark Skies

Voyager <when seven of nine joined>

Alien Nation

Space 1999

But I am sure some of you will disagree..... and my website features a few sci-fi series, esp the old ones with pics and epsiode guides, no I am not plugging my website... I am a big fan.

JoeP
25-01-2005, 22:29
Originally posted by Nooka
I just watched the last episode in the Battlestar Galactica series!

WOW :o

I really hope they make another series ive enjoyed this very much. Lots of excitement and suprises throughout! :clap:

I will be SO peeved if they don't make a further series!

When Adama was shot at the end I actually jumped with surprise - that was a cracking ending!

And James Callis MUST have been cloned from Alexander Siddig - I was convinced for most of the time that Siddig (Bashir in DS9) was playing Baltar.

I was also pleased with 'The Peacekeeper Wars' on Sunday - the tying up of Farscape. Good stuff!

Rygel vomiting up the wedding ring was priceless!

Joe

vidster
25-01-2005, 22:42
The peacekeeper wars were brilliant. The writing of Farscape is better than almost everything i have seen in recent years.

I don't know if i have missed something but i was half expecting an appearance from Moya's baby (Sorry i can't remember his name).

I really hope they make another series (or 10). It would be a pity to loose such original thinking!.

RE: Battlestar Galactica.
I too was surprised to see Adama take a couple of shots in the chest but i think it is safe to say he will be around for the next series, and there will be a new series.
No way is SKY plugging it that much without there being plans for a new one ;) .

StarSparkle
25-01-2005, 23:05
Originally posted by JoePritchard
I will be SO peeved if they don't make a further series!

And James Callis MUST have been cloned from Alexander Siddig - I was convinced for most of the time that Siddig (Bashir in DS9) was playing Baltar.

Brilliant series - we have GOT to have another, or there's no justice!

And I'm convinced either James Callis is a pseudonym for Alexander Siddig, or they are long-lost twins separated at birth! :suspect:

StarSparkle :clap:

WallBuilder
26-01-2005, 00:36
Originally posted by StarSparkle
Brilliant series - we have GOT to have another, or there's no justice!

And I'm convinced either James Callis is a pseudonym for Alexander Siddig, or they are long-lost twins separated at birth! :suspect:

StarSparkle :clap:

There had better be another series of Battlestar Galactica, I sent enough grumpy e-mails about Farscape ending in such an apalling way and don't want to have to start all over again with B.G.
Two actors who look so alike???
How come they aren't on hoardes of chat shows together meeting the mother who had them adopted at birth?

Yodameister
26-01-2005, 10:20
I always find a lot of these long running Sci Fi series owe a lot more to the world of Soap Opera than the world of science.

Phanerothyme
26-01-2005, 11:51
Originally posted by vidster
Is'nt someone in the process of testing the transporter theory?.
I thought i read somewhere that a molecule had succesfully been 'moved' from one space to another through transporting technology.

Yes, but they posted it in an envelope. Much more energy efficient. Real matter transporters use energy. The faster the transport, the greater the energy. Instantaneous transport = infinite energy required

Star Trek is a muddle. The ship has proven itself to be extremely intelligent. Why does it have humans aboard at all? Or just Cmdr Data (who is more intelligent than the ship and human too look at). Since they appear to have interstellar instantaneous communication, surely it would be a lot better to do this exploration malarkey by remote control?

The ST franchise is a dead duck with outdated perspectives (from a SciFi POV) and should be removed from the airwaves forthwith. :)

Give me Babylon 5 every time. At least that has the advantage of being written by one bloke, not a team - and it shows.

vidster
16-06-2005, 00:36
I've found some brilliant wallpapers for anyone who's interested in StarTrek.
http://www.wincustomize.com/Skins.aspx?LibID=8&view=1&sortby=4&sortdir=DESC&p=25&advanced=0
Is the link to the download page.

http://www.wincustomize.com/Preview.aspx?Source=jaidaksghost/wallpapers/starshippreview.jpg
Is the link to a sample pic.

You will also need a program called winrar (http://www.rarlab.com/) to unzip the file :wink:

Enjoy!

vidster
30-08-2005, 21:44
Is there going to be a new StarTrek film afterall?
This page seems to think so :)

http://www.slashfilm.com/article.php/20050829112113955

Beakerzoid
31-08-2005, 00:31
Yes, there is going to be another Trek film. The last report from official sources said they were looking at a pre-Enterprise setting, likely set during the Eugenics War era, witha whole new cast, and one or two characters from a series we know to act as a link. Hotly rumoured is that Data will be involved, having travelled back in time to prevent a temporal insurgence from destroying reality. If that sound too much like an episode of Voyager to you, then that is probably because Brannon "I ruined the franchise me" Braga is behind the idea!

SpiderPete
08-02-2006, 22:13
talking about Star Trek, is anyone else watching Enterprise on C4 on Sundays ?

I must say season 4 is really good, well got into it, and the Mirror Universe episode is good.

Shame it got finished as S3 and S4 are the best.

Cannot see any signs of a new Star Trek film though

vidster
08-02-2006, 22:21
I agree about Enterprise series 4 being the best. If they had made the others as good, there would be no way it would have been taken off the screens :(

I'm currently being highly impressed with Battlestar Galactica. This series is tons better than series 1 IMO. Twists and turns in every episode and they don't just leave it to one major event each episode 8)

probedb
09-02-2006, 13:18
I've watched half of season 1 of BSG and it's fantastic....especially in hi def goodness :D They're most of the way through S2 in the States but only up to ep5 has been posted in hi-def...I have a lot of watching to do.

Also finally got Firefly for Christmas and loving that too, except I have no DVD player at the moment so can't watch it arrrghhhhh.

Rich
09-02-2006, 14:23
Yes, but they posted it in an envelope. Much more energy efficient. Real matter transporters use energy. The faster the transport, the greater the energy. Instantaneous transport = infinite energy required

Star Trek is a muddle. The ship has proven itself to be extremely intelligent. Why does it have humans aboard at all? Or just Cmdr Data (who is more intelligent than the ship and human too look at). Since they appear to have interstellar instantaneous communication, surely it would be a lot better to do this exploration malarkey by remote control?

The ST franchise is a dead duck with outdated perspectives (from a SciFi POV) and should be removed from the airwaves forthwith. :)

Give me Babylon 5 every time. At least that has the advantage of being written by one bloke, not a team - and it shows.

Without Star Trek though, Babylon 5 would never have existed... As it was almost a direct clone of DS9 IMO.

FunkyHouse
10-02-2006, 16:55
Anything Sci-fi for me. Just got the DVD Chronicles of Riddick which is good effects wise. Loved Millenium, X-Files all the usual stuff - Farscape. Fave of all time though has to be The Martian Chronicles - from years ago lol!!

Beakerzoid
12-02-2006, 13:37
Without Star Trek though, Babylon 5 would never have existed... As it was almost a direct clone of DS9 IMO.

Actually......Babylon 5 came before DS9. The pilot for Bab 5 was concieved and went into production first, but wasn't aired until 1993 (the same year that DS9 was launched).

To quote an article on Wikipedia..

"J. Michael Straczynski approached Paramount Pictures, the studio which produced DS9, with the idea of producing B5 and had given them a copy of the series "bible" in 1989, several years before production on either series began. Straczynski has been quoted that DS9 was not developed until about 1991/1992 on the JMS message archive [1], and it is documented that DS9 was not announced by Paramount until nearly two months after the announcement of B5 by Warner Bros./PTEN in November 1991. Straczynski does not think that the producers of DS9 (Berman and Piller) borrowed the B5 concepts but the borrowing was done by the Paramount executives who had been given the series "bible" who directed the development of the series.

Babylon 5's pilot film was put into production first, in August 1992, while Deep Space Nine didn't begin filming until right after the B5 pilot production wrapped in September. However, the first DS9 episode was broadcast a few weeks before the B5 pilot film in early 1993. The actual B5 series was not put into production until later that year. By the time B5's first season was produced and aired, DS9's entire first season had been televised and its second season had just started airing."

SpiderPete
12-02-2006, 13:47
There is no comparison between DS9 and B5, B5 was a 5 year story arc which was tons better than DS9, although DS9 did have its "moments" it wasnt anywhere as good. But thats my opinion.

Beakerzoid
13-02-2006, 01:03
I agree that Bab 5 was much better story wise than DS9. However DS9 was a noble attempt by Trek to do something different, and arc-based. Once it got going (from season 3) it really picked up.

Still, Bab 5 was a much more interesting universe, and you gotta love the G'Kar / Londo relationships through the 5 years. Such a shame that all the Bab 5 spin-offs so far have lacked that spark that made the original show so good. Well, at least I get the joy of Strazynski's writing every month with Amazing Spider-Man and Fantastic Four comics!

Phanerothyme
13-02-2006, 12:20
b5 was obviously better written (no big teams) & the Star Trek Universe is leakier than a colander. Suspension of disbelief is hard enough with Space Opera, but with Star Trek (since TNG) it has always been impossible.

blork
13-02-2006, 16:19
What are your favourite sci-fi programs?.
I would list my favourites but that would mean listing every one of them!

Firefly. No question, my favorite show ever.

Some others of the top of my head;
Star Trek: TNG, John Doe, Push Nevada, Quantum Leap, Sliders (the first series)...and more.

Dj_Shadowman
09-04-2006, 10:55
Went to matalan not long ago and found a dvd box set of the 1st series of quantum leap.....just had to get it.

NEKRO138
10-04-2006, 08:44
Twilight zone's my favourite. The storylines are brilliant.