Do you support this move?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3732690.stm

The only difference is that TV programme trailers would simply say "at 9pm on Friday Central European Time and 8pm Scottish time....

Sounds interesting, lighter evenings.

Alex

I think it sounds a bit stupid to me, they'll still be crashes on the road even if we do change the clocks.
You can't seriously think it makes sense to put England and Wales in a different time zone to Scotland- what's next?!?!?!

I've always liked GMT myself, though it does make the winters dark in the evenings, I guess.

I think we'd soon adapt to it - perhaps the trick would be more along the lines of having flexible starts to the day so we can start our days later in the day in winter and earlier in the summer.

As for the difference in Time Zone between England an SCotland, it would be a bit daft but I have experienced shifting between time zones when I was in Canada / Alaska some years back. You get used to it....there'd just be a little announcement on the trains. But pity the poor bod who lives in Berwick on Tweed!

Joe

thats SUCH a piece of crap idea... the reason there are timezones is to do with how country's are placed on the world, you cant just go "oh, we want to be an hour infront so we can kiss european ass more!"... thats bull****!!

wow, it MIGHT save 100 lives a year? I know this sounds wrong... but seriously, 100 lives a year really isnt all that much... why not make ciggerettes illegal and save THOUSANDS of lives a year?...

y'know I'm sure these politician guys spend all their hours thinking up the stupidist things to do with their power... y'know, they control our taxes, how much students have to pay to go to Uni, how much people get on the dole etc etc... but its more fun to try and confuse every bugger by playing with the clocks :P

WTF?! :loopy:

Daft idea by a daft European Government IMO.

Surely just getting rid of BST would be better? After all GMT is the international standard...

Originally posted by Agent Dan
Surely just getting rid of BST would be better? After all GMT is the international standard...

Yeah but that's a sensible idea, history has shown that the Government don't do sensible.... Iraq anyone?

Originally posted by xafier


wow, it MIGHT save 100 lives a year? I know this sounds wrong... but seriously, 100 lives a year really isnt all that much...

What an absolutely heartless thing to say. T'is to be hoped a member of your family doesnt become one of the 100!!

BST all year long - bring it on. I'd be over the moon knowing my kids aint walking home in the dark. Forget the cars, its the damn perverts that come out after dark that worries me!!

Too many people jumping on the "oh no not more bending over for Europe" without actually stopping to think about the benefits.

Think about it guys - it makes sense

Ok, reality check...

What happens to the mornings then... Oh, they get darker... more people crash first thing in the morning, 100 lives lost in the mornings because people are getting up earlier in the normal daily cycle...

Sometimes this government does amaze me...

Originally posted by Martin_s
Ok, reality check...

What happens to the mornings then... Oh, they get darker... more people crash first thing in the morning, 100 lives lost in the mornings because people are getting up earlier in the normal daily cycle...

Sometimes this government does amaze me...

Reality check?

How can it be a reality check when you've just made it up?

Originally posted by coopster1974
its the damn perverts that come out after dark that worries me!!


Not really relevant to this thread but I thought that children were more at risk from perverts once they had arrived home.

its a pity that the report does not say HOW those 100 lives are saved, what is causing the extra accidents and who is involved?

if it is school children (as it probably is) why not adopt a more radical solution of moving the school day back an hour during the winter months?

i will duck now to avoid the things lobbed at me by teachers n kids having to get up earlier in the morning :)

dave

Originally posted by max
Not really relevant to this thread but I thought that children were more at risk from perverts once they had arrived home.

Sorry but I believe it is relevant. This thread is about making the evenings lighter yes? And I am simply trying to explain why I believe it is a positive thing. I dont believe I said anything about abuse in the home but what you cant deny is that kids get snatched off the street. If lighter evenings can prevent just one occurence of that then surely it is a good thing? I take it you dont have kids otherwise your fatherly instinct would have stopped you from posting that ridiculous comment.

Anyway many thanks for your input. Keep up the good work!

Originally posted by coopster1974
Sorry but I believe it is relevant. This thread is about making the evenings lighter yes? And I am simply trying to explain why I believe it is a positive thing. I dont believe I said anything about abuse in the home but what you cant deny is that kids get snatched off the street. If lighter evenings can prevent just one occurence of that then surely it is a good thing? I take it you dont have kids otherwise your fatherly instinct would have stopped you from posting that ridiculous comment.

Anyway many thanks for your input. Keep up the good work!

I didn't mean your post was irrelevant, I was merely pointing out that my response may have been.

Kids are just as likely to get snatched on dark mornings as they are on dark evenings, surely? Are not most of the reported snatches done 'in broad daylight' anyway?

As to the argument against adopting CET as opposed to GMT my only objection is how smug would that make the French?

(I reserve the right to have other objections as and when they occur to me)

I forgive you Max - your grammar needs some work though!!!

Anyway who cares what the French think? They smell of garlic and eat reptiles so how can one really take them seriously?

Meh, the Frogs have all the power in Europe anyway, this just gives them even more.

Originally posted by ianmitchell
You can't seriously think it makes sense to put England and Wales in a different time zone to Scotland- what's next?!?!?! Let's be honest though - Scotland has always been in a different time zone. They still think they're a different country!

Originally posted by max
Not really relevant to this thread but I thought that children were more at risk from perverts once they had arrived home. It is very true that statistically children are safer walking the streets at night than going home

Originally posted by xafier
thats SUCH a piece of crap idea... the reason there are timezones is to do with how country's are placed on the world, you cant just go "oh, we want to be an hour infront so we can kiss european ass more!"... thats bull****!!



Indeed...and Timezone changes usually run up and down lines of longitude, rather than along some line of lattitude. I think there are some enclaves where the local time isn't the same as the time of the surrounding country, but it would be a bit weird.

Originally posted by Agent Dan
Surely just getting rid of BST would be better? After all GMT is the international standard...

Nope not since 1925.

GMT is no longer used for scientific purposes.

Instead we have three flavours of UT (universal time) none of which matches GMT exactly.

Coordinated Univeral Time (UTC) is in time with the Day/Night Cycles of the earth and kept in synch with UT by adding the odd leap second now and again as required to keep things steady. This is the international standard and has been since 1972 (it says here)

It seems a bit daft. If you want to be on CET all the time just pretend that you are - assuming you are on moderately flexible hours at work you could easily do it.

You'd probably miss rush hour as well.

I think if it does change I will just pretend its GMT and get up later! I wouldn't fancy getting up in the pitch dark once it gets to November.

maybe i'm missing something, but no matter what time we call it there's still the same amount of sunlight in the day, so why should it have an effect on cars accidents, other than to move it to a different time?

One thought, at least if you were a child on your way to school you would get killed on the way there with the dark morning as opposed to getting to school, enduring 6 hours of school, then getting killed ....

Originally posted by Cyclone
maybe i'm missing something, but no matter what time we call it there's still the same amount of sunlight in the day, so why should it have an effect on cars accidents, other than to move it to a different time?

It doesn't make a great deal of difference.

But the reason for it is

If for example you wanted to make sure it was always light when most people are driving home, its easier to change what time you call it than to change office hours etc. for certain periods of the year.