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katrina
10-10-2004, 21:03
did any one go to the helen wilson. i went there in 1963-1967 the murdocks, the hunts. and the green family were there, also bert fowler and mick haigh and the mannings were there at that time. does anyone remember them.

pitsmoorlad
12-10-2004, 11:00
I went there round about the same time. I remember some of the names.

katrina
12-10-2004, 19:28
Originally posted by pitsmoorlad
I went there round about the same time. I remember some of the names.
did you live nearby and if so what is your name if you don't mind me asking.

pitsmoorlad
13-10-2004, 07:18
no I didn't live near to the H W settlement but I played for their football team with Tony Hunt and others.

hazel
13-10-2004, 13:38
Sounds very interesting. What was the Helen Watsom settlement?

katrina
13-10-2004, 22:23
Originally posted by hazel
Sounds very interesting. What was the Helen Watsom settlement?
the helen wilson was at the corner of harvest lane and rutland road, before you went under the bridge, where the forest pub is.
i've been told it used to be the rutland hotel, true or not i don't know. i also understand that rutland road used to be called wilson street, so i should imagine that's where the name comes from. it was a great youth club though.

katrina
13-10-2004, 22:27
Originally posted by pitsmoorlad
no I didn't live near to the H W settlement but I played for their football team with Tony Hunt and others.
i knew tony hunt very well, did you know bert fowler and jeff green as well.

lazyec
28-10-2004, 11:05
I went there when I was v. young (around 11).

I lived on Manners St., which was across the road from the HWS and opposite Stones brewery and next to Hallamshire Steel Works.

I went to Woodside Junior School on Rutland Rd..

Bloke called Graham Groves used to look after the kids.

Howard Wilkinson, who lived near to HWS, probably went there.

pitsmoorlad
28-10-2004, 12:05
I vaguely remember someone called Fowler, but knew Jeff Green. Small ish slim guy. Is that the same one?

lazyec
28-10-2004, 16:04
The Forest Pub was higher up Rutland Rd. on the RHS quite near to Woodside School.

Some surnames of people I knew on Manners St. who may have gone to HWS):-

Plant (Ian, Peter, Janet); Marriott (Trevor); Redfearn(Female); Smith (Billy, Barry,Brian, Carol); Creaser (Eric).

There was also another "Youth Club" on Manners St. which backed on to the Co-op - I can only remember that we called it "The Guild".

Talking of Parkwood Springs - we used to go and play on "the Wood" at the top of Rutland Rd.. This wasn't a wood but open hilly grassland above the quarry on Rutland Rd..

This stretched right over to Parkwood Springs.

We had lots of childish skirmisshes with the "Parkies" (we were called the "Woodies").

There were piggeries on the Parkwood Springs side then (not owned by Gypsies) and also Allotments.

pitsmoorlad
29-10-2004, 09:41
When I lived in that area we used to go onto Parkwood Springs and yes we used to call it the wood, although I can't recall a single tree. But the little road down from Rutland Rd was and is called "Wood Fold" so there must have been some there at one point. We used to go up to the "air raid shelters at the top. It was always windy up there but you could see for miles.

retep
29-10-2004, 17:38
We had lots of childish skirmisshes with the "Parkies" (we were called the "Woodies").

That brings back memories, hope you've given up throwing stones
remember the Plants was it Peter with the false eye,
ex- Parkwooder

PaulTansley
29-10-2004, 21:56
Originally posted by katrina
did any one go to the helen wilson. i went there in 1963-1967 the murdocks, the hunts. and the green family were there, also bert fowler and mick haigh and the mannings were there at that time. does anyone remember them. Bert Fowler married a woman I know a few years ago called Josie Fowler, unusuall to have the same name before marriage but she was married previously to a Roger Fowler.
Bert died a couple of years ago.

lazyec
30-10-2004, 08:13
The Plants lived on the end of Manners St.

Joan and Harold were the parents - Ian, Janet, Peter, and Jean the kids who I knew.

Ian was the oldest and the one with the glass eye - he used to frighten us by removing it!

Peter was the one I "knocked about with" and we went allover the place unaccompanied by adults (happy days).

Apart from playing on the Wood (where the battles with the Parkies were throwing stones at each other from the tops of opposite hills!) and in the air raid shelters there we would go to Rivelin, Beeley Woods, Hillsborough Park (to play football), and sometimes as far as Castleton.

Peter joined the Army at 17 and made a career of it.

retep
31-10-2004, 09:22
Lazyec,
Who was it on Manners St who Denby Mitchell the pig man used to visit, can remember it was near the Plants

pitsmoorboy
19-01-2005, 16:49
Don't remember the Helen Wilson but Names I recall from that area = Jeff Murdock his brother Charlie, Ronnie Taylor, Alan Manning, his sisters Gloria & Carol, Barry Smith & Carl Otter.
Would love to hear from Ronnie Taylor. we were great mates at school.

ozlad
20-09-2006, 22:18
Lazyec,
Who was it on Manners St who Denby Mitchell the pig man used to visit, can remember it was near the Plants

Maybe us..we lived on Manners St in the early 60s..knew the Plants very well.

devlin
21-09-2006, 08:06
(Quote= lazyec)Talking of Parkwood Springs - we used to go and play on "the Wood" at the top of Rutland Rd.. This wasn't a wood but open hilly grassland above the quarry on Rutland Rd..

My other half was born and brought up here - Vale Road

ozlad
21-09-2006, 08:10
(Quote= lazyec)Talking of Parkwood Springs - we used to go and play on "the Wood" at the top of Rutland Rd.. This wasn't a wood but open hilly grassland above the quarry on Rutland Rd..

My other half was born and brought up here - Vale Road

There used to be a "rec" up on top, above the air raid shelters, as I recall.Am I right in remembering from my last visit "home" that The Wood is still there and used for grass ski-ing?

lazyec
21-09-2006, 11:45
I lived at no. 37 Manners St. which was a corner house and relatively big....

The Hallamshire Steel Works backed on to our yard....Fred Pass (of Radio Sheffield and "Weerz me dad" fame) lived in the same yard.
Fred used to have me play as Goalie with a bin lid as the goalpost away from the house wall, he would be the centre forward and give a running commentary as he approached the goal and shot. I was 6 or 7 years younger than Fred and used to dive around on the tarmac (asphalt!) trying to save his volleys.

My dad worked at the Hallamshire which was handy for him.

On the opposite corner lived the Smiths ( Barry; Billy and carol (twins) and Brian). I still see Barry for a drink in the Catholic Club nr. Hunter's Bar.

Trevor Marriott lived across Manners St. from us ...also remember Wilsons; Gibsons; Nicholsons; Websters; Crappers; Bowers; Redfearns; Greens (not Manners St.); Wilds etc. etc..

ozlad
21-09-2006, 12:47
I lived at no. 37 Manners St. which was a corner house and relatively big....

The Hallamshire Steel Works backed on to our yard....Fred Pass (of Radio Sheffield and "Weerz me dad" fame) lived in the same yard.
Fred used to have me play as Goalie with a bin lid as the goalpost away from the house wall, he would be the centre forward and give a running commentary as he approached the goal and shot. I was 6 or 7 years younger than Fred and used to dive around on the tarmac (asphalt!) trying to save his volleys.

My dad worked at the Hallamshire which was handy for him.

On the opposite corner lived the Smiths ( Barry; Billy and carol (twins) and Brian). I still see Barry for a drink in the Catholic Club nr. Hunter's Bar.

Trevor Marriott lived across Manners St. from us ...also remember Wilsons; Gibsons; Nicholsons; Websters; Crappers; Bowers; Redfearns; Greens (not Manners St.); Wilds etc. etc..


Billy Wild was my best mate.
I'm guessing you must be a couple of years older than me.
We were the Paceys at 26.

sixsigma
22-09-2006, 21:42
I went there when I was v. young (around 11).

I lived on Manners St., which was across the road from the HWS and opposite Stones brewery and next to Hallamshire Steel Works.

I went to Woodside Junior School on Rutland Rd..

Bloke called Graham Groves used to look after the kids.

Howard Wilkinson, who lived near to HWS, probably went there.

I was born at 12 Manners street in 1953 and went to the HWS regularly but I also went to a small kids group over the coop on Boyland stret called the Circle. Any one remember that?

sixsigma
22-09-2006, 21:44
Billy Wild was my best mate.
I'm guessing you must be a couple of years older than me.
We were the Paceys at 26.
I'm his big brother. Billy now lives up Ecclesfield, works as a joiner and is married.