OFFICIALS are bracing themselves for a storm of public outrage over their controversial X-ray cameras scheme.
As part of the most shocking extension of Big Brother powers ever planned here, lenses in lampposts would snap “naked” pictures of passers-by to trap terror suspects.
full story here
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007040610,00.html

It's not the 1st of April yet.

It's the Sun, I wouldn't pay to much attention to it either. Would never work in Sheffield anyway. Half the lampposts don't even work.

Cheap journalism full of inaccuracies and careless mistakes. And I can tell that just from the title!

They can't just set up X-ray machines in public: they would give everyone cancer.
The 'T-ray' detectors are something that has been being looked into for a while though, as a non-cancer-producing alternative.
If this stuff becomes common then it won't be watched by people but by computer programs analysing for particular shapes, textures, and penetrability of objects: hard to feel embarassed by a program sifting a string of digitized data.

Surely an X-ray machine would see through your skin as well? I may be a bit of a perv, but even I can't get excited about observing young ladies' skeletons........

If the camera doesn't detect a brain, then it must be a Sun reader :hihi:

fr8neck is right - this sort of surveillance kit would end up being managed by computer software 'trained' to spot anomalies in the scanned images.

Now if you're getting a pervy PC we have a major problem on our hands in the form of sentient computer programs. :)

I think they'd have to be rather selective in where they put them, though - I could imagine a large number of false positives if they just installed the kit everywhere.

It's the Sun, I wouldn't pay to much attention to it either. Would never work in Sheffield anyway. Half the lampposts don't even work.

I think the sheer volume of jewelry that chavs carry will blind the cameras. Making them ineffective :thumbsup: :hihi: :hihi:

The 'T-ray' detectors are something that has been being looked into for a while though, as a non-cancer-producing alternative.
If this stuff becomes common then it won't be watched by people but by computer programs analysing for particular shapes, textures, and penetrability of objects:

ooh eye, analysing shapes, textures and penetrability of objects. Sounds a bit naughty.

I think its only a matter of time before everyone can watch steamed x-ray cams on the internet.

(Not me of course, I have high moral standards that stop me from part taking in such indecency!)

I just think somebody in government has watched "Total Recall" too many times... :(

It's the Sun, I wouldn't pay to much attention to it either. Would never work in Sheffield anyway. Half the lampposts don't even work.

it was on the BBC news this morning! :o

it was on the BBC news this morning! :o

Ahh must be genuine then :hihi:

it was on the BBC news this morning! :o

The BBC these days are little better than The Sun....in fact this moring on Breakfast the presenter was asking John Reid to refute claims made in The Sun :rolleyes: - second-rate journalist using second-hand material.

I'll have to restart my diet then.

it's not an x-ray machine it's a millimetre wave radar, not 100% sure of this but I believe the radar wave can pass through clothing easily but is absorbed or reflected by other materials to differing degrees so your clothes effectively disappear and you plus any metal objects and to a certain extent the non metal ones you are carrying show on screen as a black and white image

they were intended for use in airports and train stations where large numbers of people need to be checked for weapons rapidly and non intrusively

I think it's highly unlikely that these things are going to be built into street furniture, I think it's far more likely that the sun is simultaneously scaremongering and printing black and white pictures of naked people to boost it's circulation

all the same maybe the people who wear bacofoil clothing aren't so daft :hihi:

Its a load of hype. first of all it would cost billions, and secondly human rights wont allow it and thirdly.., its the sun.. comon,

1984- thats what its turning into

turn off ur brains england eastenders is on tv

i cant see how it will work if its just placed in any main street,by the time the data has been analysed the suspect could be any where

it's not an x-ray machine it's a millimetre wave radar
It's not the millimetre wave scanner technology (which for the record is NOT related to RADAR). I'll try to stop being annoyed by non-techies talking techie now, lol. :hihi:

to the best of my knowledge the millimetre wave radiation used by these devices is not ambient but is emitted by the scanner and the picture is assembled from the signal bounced back using principles first developed in radar and sonar

as this is a radio frequency device it's closer to radar than sonar

the scanner part would come from the device scanning the emitted radio signal rapidly across the object in a raster pattern to allow an image to be built up from the reflection/absorption spectrum

but it's still in essence radar

and I'll try to stop being annoyed at techies who pick up trifling points and talk down to other techies :hihi:

to the best of my knowledge...
...and I'll try to stop being annoyed at techies who pick up trifling points and talk down to other techies :hihi:
I work for the company that invented it. :rolleyes:

Nothing is radiated by the device. It uses electromagnetic waves (of 'millimetre' wavelength - hence the name) that are present in the environment all the time.

It is not RADAR in any form.

It bounces nothing off anything (see points above).

Image processing is also, not RADAR.

Describing the millimetre wave scanner (that is it's proper name BTW) as a "radio frequency device" is wholly innacurate (again, see points above).

Trifling points? Maybe to a non-techie. :P

OFFICIALS are bracing themselves for a storm of public outrage over their controversial X-ray cameras scheme

There's no such thing as an X-ray camera, the x-rays pass through any lens unfocussed. Any x-ray image is purely a shadow.

I work for the company that invented it. :rolleyes:

Nothing is radiated by the device. It uses electromagnetic waves (of 'millimetre' wavelength - hence the name) that are present in the environment all the time.

It is not RADAR in any form.

It bounces nothing off anything (see points above).

Image processing is also, not RADAR.

Describing the millimetre wave scanner (that is it's proper name BTW) as a "radio frequency device" is wholly innacurate (again, see points above).

Trifling points? Maybe to a non-techie. :P

Do you mean 'trekkie', you sound like the bloke from the bookshop in 'The Simpsons' :hihi: :hihi:

I work for the company that invented it. :rolleyes:

Nothing is radiated by the device. It uses electromagnetic waves (of 'millimetre' wavelength - hence the name) that are present in the environment all the time.

It is not RADAR in any form.

It bounces nothing off anything (see points above).

Image processing is also, not RADAR.

Describing the millimetre wave scanner (that is it's proper name BTW) as a "radio frequency device" is wholly innacurate (again, see points above).

Trifling points? Maybe to a non-techie. :P

It's not the technical details that are worrying, it's that it's another step towards an Orwellian surveillance society.

Cameras in your home anyone??