View Full Version : Sex and love, can you separate the two?


mitziwillow
29-09-2004, 22:08
This is really one for the men - can you separate the two. I think we have difficulty ( women ) but men don't seem to. Women are more intense and need more 'spiritual/emotional' experiences than men. Am I right??

D2J
29-09-2004, 22:13
Seperate the two ??

Engagement Ring
Wedding Ring
and SuffeRING..

Seperate the three ? :heyhey:

mitziwillow
29-09-2004, 22:20
Clever play on words Deejay!

evildrneil
29-09-2004, 22:32
Thats a wild overgeneralisation - I've found plenty of women who can dissociate love and sex and plenty of men who can't - its more a matter of psychology than gender...

FairyNormal
29-09-2004, 22:40
Well call me a slapper of you like, but I can seperate sex from love!!

For a number of years I had what I would term a f**k buddy!! I wasn't in a relationship with anyone and didn't want to be either. To be honest, I just didn't want the complications and the chance of yet another failed relationship. My life was perfectly fine and I am not the kinda girl who 'needs' a man like some do. I am independant and like my own space.

We were both single and it suited us fine. We got on great as mates and had a real laugh together but I never had 'feelings' for him nor him me. We would meet up when we fancied a bit (sorry to be so crude) and it was good. This carried on for a couple of years until I did meet someone I cared about and then it stopped. There was no animosity, no jealousy and no complications.

I too have found men who cannot seperate the two as I have done women also. I think it depends on the individual. If you feel comfortable with it then why not? AS long as bothparties are fine about it and understand the situation, I think its great!!

Martin_s
30-09-2004, 00:14
Originally posted by evildrneil
Thats a wild overgeneralisation - I've found plenty of women who can dissociate love and sex and plenty of men who can't - its more a matter of psychology than gender...
I'd agree although I'd say it's a blend of personalities to be honest...

And hey, what about the levels of love... just to be a royal pain in the butt ;)

Snook
30-09-2004, 00:22
and what about those of us who are dead inside?

Phanerothyme
30-09-2004, 07:09
Or those of us that believe romantic love is a modern social construct

neeeeeeeeeek
30-09-2004, 07:30
Snook for king!
Pure class.
:D

Cyclone
30-09-2004, 11:43
the question isn't clear, do you mean can you have sex without love, or can you have love without sex?

threecolours
01-10-2004, 15:21
Originally posted by Cyclone
the question isn't clear, do you mean can you have sex without love, or can you have love without sex?

Cyclone...yes and yes (although take the latter answer with a MASSIVE pinch of salt as the relationship I'm thinking of shortly then finished!!)

I don't think differences in attitudes are down gender...I know lads and lasses who view love/sex in all very different ways. I'm with FetishFairy on this one but...sex with love - I think that's better! I don't tend to view it necessarily as 'romantic' love but more the way you really look forward to being with that person and as Martin may be hinting at below it could be a person who you don't 'love' but care deeply about in other ways.

miniminch
01-10-2004, 19:31
Originally posted by FetishFairy
Well call me a slapper of you like, but I can seperate sex from love!!

For a number of years I had what I would term a f**k buddy!! I wasn't in a relationship with anyone and didn't want to be either. To be honest, I just didn't want the complications and the chance of yet another failed relationship. My life was perfectly fine and I am not the kinda girl who 'needs' a man like some do. I am independant and like my own space.

We were both single and it suited us fine. We got on great as mates and had a real laugh together but I never had 'feelings' for him nor him me. We would meet up when we fancied a bit (sorry to be so crude) and it was good. This carried on for a couple of years until I did meet someone I cared about and then it stopped. There was no animosity, no jealousy and no complications.

I too have found men who cannot seperate the two as I have done women also. I think it depends on the individual. If you feel comfortable with it then why not? AS long as bothparties are fine about it and understand the situation, I think its great!!

I think that is disgusting, unacceptable and pathetic. I'm not known for my high moral stance fetish but i feel I have to speak up in this case. How dare you!!? How dare you give up your Fxxk buddy when you found a poxy relationship. I believe yoiu should reinstate someone as your new Fxxk buddy while you audition suitable candidates. If you like i will stand in while you knock this retarded 'meaningful' relationship nonsense on the head.
I believe that i can separte the two, to the point that I have never been in love. :suspect: PM me darling:love: :love: :love:

fuzzy
02-10-2004, 13:10
Sex without love works. Love without sex is very difficult to do.

miniminch
02-10-2004, 19:27
Originally posted by fuzzy
Sex without love works. Love without sex is very difficult to do. While sex without a pelvis is just plain dangerous!!:hihi:

FairyNormal
02-10-2004, 20:41
Originally posted by miniminch
I think that is disgusting, unacceptable and pathetic. I'm not known for my high moral stance fetish but i feel I have to speak up in this case. How dare you!!? How dare you give up your Fxxk buddy when you found a poxy relationship. I believe yoiu should reinstate someone as your new Fxxk buddy while you audition suitable candidates. If you like i will stand in while you knock this retarded 'meaningful' relationship nonsense on the head.
I believe that i can separte the two, to the point that I have never been in love. :suspect: PM me darling:love: :love: :love:

Lol!! I am very flattered but believe me, you ain't seen me yet!!!
Might wanna change yer mind if you did!!!

Edd
02-10-2004, 20:47
Re: Sex and love, can you separate the two?


Im not getting any of either at the moment, so they are completely indistinguishable. :cry:

threecolours
02-10-2004, 21:46
Originally posted by Edd
Re: Sex and love, can you separate the two?


Im not getting any of either at the moment, so they are completely indistinguishable. :cry:

Ha Ha (laughing in an empathetic/sympathetic kind of way)! Ok then...another question...If you could only chose one which would you choose? Assuming that the two could be separate I s'pose?

fuzzy
02-10-2004, 21:51
Originally posted by threecolours
Ha Ha (laughing in an empathetic/sympathetic kind of way)! Ok then...another question...If you could only chose one which would you choose? Assuming that the two could be separate I s'pose?

Oh very difficult one. :confused:

threecolours
02-10-2004, 21:55
Originally posted by fuzzy
Oh very difficult one. :confused:

I'm trying to figure out the answer too....reckon it'd be love but then again....?!

Edd
02-10-2004, 23:19
Originally posted by threecolours
Ha Ha (laughing in an empathetic/sympathetic kind of way)! Ok then...another question...If you could only chose one which would you choose? Assuming that the two could be separate I s'pose?

Love of course!:love:

Im such a soppy old romantic :help: :gag: I didnt even have to think about that one! :rolleyes:




edd




p.s. Of course...i wouldnt turn down sex right now either! :P

threecolours
02-10-2004, 23:28
Originally posted by Edd

p.s. Of course...i wouldnt turn down sex right now either! :P

You're not picky then...But I spose tis midnight and a saturday night....?! Whoops just realised - getting slightly off thread there....

Plain Talker
02-10-2004, 23:49
Originally posted by Edd

p.s. Of course...i wouldnt turn down sex right now either! :P

ah, edd, you're a bit too too late! (as am I, unfortunately, by about 2 hours)

Wasn't there a huge feature spread across the news, a week or two back, that the optimal time for "copping off" with someone was something like at 10.48 pm (or 10.52... I can't remember the precise time) on a Saturday night?

PT

Killian
02-10-2004, 23:52
Would that be Greenwich Mean Time or Eastern European time. If so, you might just about make it.

Plain Talker
03-10-2004, 00:01
Originally posted by Killian
Would that be Greenwich Mean Time or Eastern European time. If so, you might just about make it.

Gosh! i hadn't thought of that! ( blow! We've still missed out, as it's 1am)

It reminds me of a friend of mine, who vowed not to let a drop of alcohol pass his lips until after 11....
one day, he was "slugging one back", and it must have only been about 9am,

When I commented on his vow, not to imbibe until after 11, his response was

"Well, no problem! It's got to be after 11, somewhere in the world!"

PT

Killian
03-10-2004, 00:05
Sh*t, it's 5.33am in New Delhi!!

High time I was in bed.

WintersMist
03-10-2004, 12:35
They are both connected.

andy1702
04-10-2004, 00:49
Personally I could never do sex without love.

But it's quite easy to fall in love without sex.

If you truely love someone (and I believe very few people are in a truely loving relationship) then the sex part is actually a very secondary thing.:)

Strix
04-10-2004, 01:24
Originally posted by mitziwillow
This is really one for the men - can you separate the two. I think we have difficulty ( women ) but men don't seem to. Women are more intense and need more 'spiritual/emotional' experiences than men. Am I right??

If you don't, how do you know you're not in lust?

That wasn't supposed to sound so prudish. I have always maintained that sex only works when both people want the same thing. Find some limpet who wants a relationship when you're looking for something less complicated and you'd better hide the rabbit and the saucepans.

And why do women use love as an excuse to behave in a fashion they themselves would disapprove of if it didn't have LOVE branded across it? I have to admit FetishFairy sounds like a well rounded sort of nymph.

FairyNormal
04-10-2004, 13:18
Originally posted by Strix
I have to admit FetishFairy sounds like a well rounded sort of nymph.

Well I am sure there are many out there who would call me 'well rounded' on account of my fuller figure!!

Now to love and sex .......... I have had a relationship with someone I loved but had no sex life with. We lived together but without intimacy. Believe me, it doesn't work. If you are in a committed, loving relationship with someone, sex (IMHO) is a big part. If it's not there it puts a certain amount of pressure on the relationship. If one partner isn't interested, it certainly doesn't do a lot for the other ones ego I can tell you!!

So I conclude ...... sex without love ...... YES
Love without sex ....... NO!

Strix
04-10-2004, 13:31
See? Only works if you both want the same thing.

I love my dog, but I wouldn't have sex with him. We both love mountain walking though!

Sidla
04-10-2004, 14:38
Originally posted by threecolours
Ha Ha (laughing in an empathetic/sympathetic kind of way)! Ok then...another question...If you could only chose one which would you choose? Assuming that the two could be separate I s'pose?
I'm in the same boat as Edd. :(

I would definately choose love over sex.

Only on the condition that I get to keep my right hand though.... :o ;) :)

D2J
04-10-2004, 19:01
Originally posted by Sidla
Only on the condition that I get to keep my right hand though.... :o ;) :)

Fine example you set as a Moderator :suspect: :razz:

Yorkie
04-10-2004, 19:08
Originally posted by mitziwillow
This is really one for the men - can you separate the two. I think we have difficulty ( women ) but men don't seem to. Women are more intense and need more 'spiritual/emotional' experiences than men. Am I right??

Man is the provider.

No time for spiritual stuff.

Sidla
05-10-2004, 17:14
Originally posted by Deejay
Fine example you set as a Moderator :suspect: :razz:
What are you referring to?? If I lost my right hand I wouldn't be able to write, type, play guitar, play tennis..... my life wouldn't be worth living. ;)

miniminch
05-10-2004, 18:34
Originally posted by Strix
See? Only works if you both want the same thing.

I love my dog, but I wouldn't have sex with him. We both love mountain walking though!

How weird I also love your dog but, unlike you, I am willing to have sex with him! The little scamp! :love: PM me darling

fuzzy
05-10-2004, 20:48
Originally posted by Sidla
What are you referring to?? If I lost my right hand I wouldn't be able to write, type, play guitar, play tennis..... my life wouldn't be worth living. ;)

I knew what you meant Sidla ;)

rosie
06-10-2004, 13:39
Love because then you at least have mutual respect for each other.

You can have sex with anyone and have no respect for them.

simon69
06-10-2004, 13:46
sex is easy love is to complicated

rosie
06-10-2004, 13:57
Never done one without the other, I like the complication.

venger
07-10-2004, 11:11
Originally posted by evildrneil
Thats a wild overgeneralisation - I've found plenty of women who can dissociate love and sex and plenty of men who can't - its more a matter of psychology than gender...

you can debate this one for eternity

and as Phan proffered the concept of being a social contruct

bring me the dancing girls, I have an appetite :heyhey:

venger
07-10-2004, 11:18
I think Fairy and Fuzzy also have something to say about this one

fuzzy
07-10-2004, 21:34
Originally posted by venger
I think Fairy and Fuzzy also have something to say about this one

What makes you think i have more to say, and about?