I have jsut been watching a programme on BBC 2 about psychics. What are your experiences, good or bad.

I went to a theatre venue last year and it was all very broad. They could have been talking to anyone. What are your experiences?

I have a really hard time believing any of this stuff. However, I am always eager to listen.

My wife and I have just watched the programme. The blind woman and the rather camp guy with the dyed blonde hair and moustache [very 80s] were quite obviously charlatans. The Scots guy is either genuine, or one of the cleverest con artists ever. He alone made me think seriously about the subject.

Try watching Colin Fry On Living TV he is amazing,me & my wife believe,but even I was suspicious years ago until I saw Colin.

Years ago I met a woman from South Africa whom I had never met before. We were sitting around a table with a mutual friend and within ten minutes she proceeded to give me information about my dead sister. The things she said were undeniable and indisputable. Our mutual friend knew nothing of my sister or much about my life as we were relatively new friends.
More recently I have watched a guy called John Edward on tv. He too gives factual information to loved ones which is so accurate it is mind blowing.

I went to one in the mid eighties. She described events that as it turned out, where to happen to me ten years later. She was spot on!
It was only after these things happened that I remembered what she had said - Hairs stood up on the back of my neck....

ive read john edwards books it really does make u think i couldnt put the book down
it was called one last time worth getting if ur into this kinda thing
id lov to go and meet these famous mediums
im going to see a local medium 2nite so ill keep u all posted

There is a guy called Simon Peters who is supposed to be the best new medium around.He will be at The Arches in Barnsley on the 27th Oct 2004.his site is www.simonpeters.co.uk

Originally posted by Ange
ive read john edwards books it really does make u think i couldnt put the book down
it was called one last time worth getting if ur into this kinda thing
id lov to go and meet these famous mediums
im going to see a local medium 2nite so ill keep u all posted
My husband and I went to see John Edward last year. His ability on stage was just as impressive as on TV. We didn't get a reading but we also didn't feel let down because the people who got the messages were in far more need than we were.

I haven't met anyone yet who could amaze me with their psychic ability...still waiting. You would have thought with my line of work I would have met thousands....but I haven't.

Moon

Thanks for that MoonMaiden...I feel somewhat reassured. I don't believe that psychics exist...If I can't explain it...I have real trouble believing it - I don't have any faith to speak of at all!

I don't watch these kinds of programmes and don't go near people who claim to be psychics but if you've tried to find one and couldn't - I say stop trying cos I don't think they exist. But I don't believe in god, afterlife, spirits, 'ghosts, etc either.

Doesn't mean, of course, that other aren't people are free to believe! And maybe others have stories to share which may convince me otherwise?

I think we all have some very limited psychic ability, but nothing like those medium idiots you see on the poor sky channels.

I went to see Simon Peters a few months ago in Rotherham. I'm neither a believer nor a non believer.

I wasn't unduly impressed I have to say. At one point it became embarassing as he was determined to match his 'message' to someone in the audience. For about 20 minutes there were no takers then someone decided it might be for them although several of the things he'd said didn't apply. Also he was rather annoying as he paced up and down the floor constantly.

I have seen Colin Fry and John Edward on TV and they are a bit more believable. I recently 'won' a reading on EBay (I don't know what possessed me to bid for it!) and I am currently awaiting it to be emailed to me. I'd like to think there is something in it but until I get some more positive proof I'll remain firmly on the fence. Maybe I'll be convinced when I receive the email.:suspect:

Originally posted by Susana
I went to see Simon Peters a few months ago in Rotherham. I'm neither a believer nor a non believer.

I wasn't unduly impressed I have to say. At one point it became embarassing as he was determined to match his 'message' to someone in the audience. For about 20 minutes there were no takers then someone decided it might be for them although several of the things he'd said didn't apply. Also he was rather annoying as he paced up and down the floor constantly.

I have seen Colin Fry and John Edward on TV and they are a bit more believable. I recently 'won' a reading on EBay (I don't know what possessed me to bid for it!) and I am currently awaiting it to be emailed to me. I'd like to think there is something in it but until I get some more positive proof I'll remain firmly on the fence. Maybe I'll be convinced when I receive the email.:suspect: Thanks for the insight,my wife wanted me to book a private session with this guy & I showed her what you said & she changed her mind.We have seen Colin Fry on the Living Channel & he seem's to be the best out there.

i watch that programme too. obviously when they get i a little wrong you think ha con artist, but when they get it bang on right you trhink oh my god thats unbeleivable.

i would love to be able to get intouch with my aunti and hear what she has to say about the palce inf the clouds and see what she has to say about what she thinks how everything is going. but i guess the only way to believe is to go and see a medium in person and have a chat with them.

the guy at the end of the programme (the one who didnt charge and had been invited to that church where all the other famous mediums had lived/practiced) i thought was the best out of the lot and the stuff he knew and could tell people.

the only other way he could have known what had happend to their son was if he either knew the people or he could read minds and be telapathic.

i think its cool anyhow.

Originally posted by threecolours
Thanks for that MoonMaiden...I feel somewhat reassured. I don't believe that psychics exist...If I can't explain it...I have real trouble believing it - I don't have any faith to speak of at all!

I don't watch these kinds of programmes and don't go near people who claim to be psychics but if you've tried to find one and couldn't - I say stop trying cos I don't think they exist. But I don't believe in god, afterlife, spirits, 'ghosts, etc either.

Doesn't mean, of course, that other aren't people are free to believe! And maybe others have stories to share which may convince me otherwise?

So what happened to me must have been a figment of my imagination then ?
I don't think so ! I wasn't a silly little teenager looking for something like that to happen to me. I was a full grown rational adult who had a spontaneous experience and was blown away by a complete strangers accuracy when talking about my dead sister. She even got her name correct first time.

Anyone know of any psychics/mediums in sheffield? I would like to try it.

My own view is that it's a load of tosh!!!
Sorry to all you believers out there,but i think that they are very good at what they do on t.v.,and that is to minipulate people who are very open to this...Just my view!!!!

cheers
john t

I've never believed in any of this either. Many years ago, however, a crowd of us paid to have a psychic visit the house (really for a laugh, in my case). Most of what she told me was pretty ordinary and unforgettable, but the psychic told my friend she was going to have an affair and actually mentioned the name of the person (and I mean first name and surname). My friend was stunned as this person was indeed a family friend whom she secretly fancied. She then spent many months avoiding any close confrontations with the person mentioned by the psychic as she was married and actually moved away from the area sometime later and forgot the whole incident. Surprise, suprise, several years later she met up with the man mentioned by the psychic and, indeed had an affair with him. You could say she played into the psychic's hands, but I have never forgotten this incident mainly because it was the first time I had actually heard of a psychic revealing a person's full name (including surname). They are usually pretty vague on this issue.

I'm yet to be 100% convinced about 'professional' psychics but I do believe that many people have abilities - even if it's quite a small ability - that is as yet unexplained by science.

For example, dowsing is outside conventional scientific knowledge but has been exploited by everyone from geologists to the US Marine Corps in Viet Nam for mine and booby trap detecting. I've tried it myself and had some success. Other aspects of psychic ability seem to be supported with anecdotal evidence - remote viewing, for example.

As for communicating with the souls of those departed - some of the anecdotal evidence seems quite strong but I've not experienced anything personally. I wouldn't go and visit a psychic because I'm not that bothered about speaking to any of my friends or relatives who've died. Just don't want to hassle them....:)

And if my mum or anyone wants to contact me, I'm sure they'll manage without going through middle men!

Joe

First up I have to say that I am a believer. I believe in the lot, ghosts, UFOs, Psychics etc.

But (and it's a big but) I also know around 99% of supernatural or paranormal events have a rational explanation. Sometimes people genuinely believe they have experienced something. But other times it is only too easy to be taken in by talented con artists.

With psychics there is a technique known as 'cold reading' which can have astonishing results when performed infront of a large audience. This is where the psychic makes a statement which seems very specific, but the law of averages says it will fit with at least one of the people in the audience. Suddenly that person becomes a shocked believer, which leaves them more open to suggestion from the psychics follow on comments. The 'cold reading' technique is difficult to master. But once learned, can be used with spectacular results.

One famous con trick is the dark seyance, where a number of items with flourescent paint on them are placed in the middle of a table in a totally dark room. The medium and clients sit around the table in total darkness and suddenly the objects are seen to move.

The ouija board is another famous con. These boards actually originated as a childs toy in victorian times to teach spelling etc. Only later did they become known as a tool for contacting the spirit world. I have used one of these boards many times and scared a large number of people with the moving pointer and seemingly accurate answers to questions.

Drop me a line if you would like to know how these and other tricks are done. If enough of you are interested I would be willing to organise a training evening where anyone can learn these skills, which actually originated on the old-time side-shows which toured with travelling fairs.

Finally, one of my more unusual tricks in the psychic coin. Just using the power of the mind I can influence the toss of a coin. I can also start broken clocks in a Uri Gellar style and move seemingly inanimate objects before your very eyes!

Andy.

I saw a psychic show in doncaster years ago. The guy started off with 'andrew/andy wants to contact somebody' then mentioned a car he shouldn't have been in, and his age. I didn't raise my hand because although this described my best friend who died in scotland, I had read in the paper about '19 year old andrew' in rossington, too. By the time he had finished embellishing and flannelling we had a 21 year old called John who had belonged to the family at the front. The wierd thing is two weeks before andrew's death, he had his palm read. Only by a friend who was just starting to learn, but she told him he had a really short life line.

Last year we were driving down the A1 when I had a really panicky feeling that something had happened to somebody close. As soon as tried to 'feel' more information, whilst scrolling thru my phone book for hints, I drew a blank, but the feeling of helplessness swamped me. My sister should have arrived at our destination around the same time, but we got a phone call from her to say she was stuck backwards up an embankment with her car beached on a tree. It had taken her over an hour to gather her wits before she made the call.

There's a lot of cranks out there, but there's a lot of things we dont understand as well as our pre-christian ancestors did. You only need to look at the discoveries we're making in medecine now, by examining some of the quack remedies of the past, to know that 'witchcraft' had substance.

And horoscopes? the 'A' level physics answer: gravity + electricity = force. The moon's gravitational pull exerts a force on earth as proved by the tides. Your brain works on electric pulses. There is a resultant force - so what does it do?

Originally posted by Banksia
So what happened to me must have been a figment of my imagination then ?
I don't think so ! I wasn't a silly little teenager looking for something like that to happen to me. I was a full grown rational adult who had a spontaneous experience and was blown away by a complete strangers accuracy when talking about my dead sister. She even got her name correct first time.

I don't think anyone is saying you were having delusions of Grandeur, the point is that many people have not had the experience you have had.

For example I have experienced things that you would not believe despite me giving what I see as conclusive proof of their validity. That is all that has happened here - just because you have had proof of the existence of an ability does not mean that upon production of it to a non-believer they must instantly believe and not count you as a fruit loop ;)

Also if I were to meet someone tomorrow who could offer me certain information about myself without me actually knowing that person (or vice versa) I would still be skeptical. I take some convincing though will never rule out completely the possibility.

There are hundreds of theories about the validity of techniques, tools and abilities, not to mention the existence in the super natural and paranormal communities.

Moon

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
I don't think anyone is saying you were having delusions of Grandeur, the point is that many people have not had the experience you have had.

For example I have experienced things that you would not believe despite me giving what I see as conclusive proof of their validity. That is all that has happened here - just because you have had proof of the existence of an ability does not mean that upon production of it to a non-believer they must instantly believe and not count you as a fruit loop ;)

Also if I were to meet someone tomorrow who could offer me certain information about myself without me actually knowing that person (or vice versa) I would still be skeptical. I take some convincing though will never rule out completely the possibility.

There are hundreds of theories about the validity of techniques, tools and abilities, not to mention the existence in the super natural and paranormal communities.

Moon
I don't expect everyone to accept and believe what I say. But - I don't expect, as often happens when discussing anything spiritual, to have my account of a valid experience dismissed out of hand. Whatever the subject matter I think it best not to label certain members fruit loops. I find that offensive !

Hi Banksia

I understand completely what you are saying but I cannot see any reason for the outburst that was posted in the thread - perhaps I read it wrong. :confused:
I cannot see where anyone was specifically attacking your point of view on this just voicing their own opinion which is really what this thread was set up for...to hear others opinions.

People can label me a fruit loop all they like, I am assured of what I have experienced if others don't accept that I cannot say I am going to loose sleep over it :)

Thanks MoonMaiden for responding to the concerns raised by Banksia. I'd hoped that my original posting on this thread would simply have read as my opinion. I.e. I admit to having a very 'closed' view of psychics in that I feel unable to believe in them (and anything else 'spiritual' for that matter). As you've said it doesn't mean at all that I am right and others are wrong!

Which was why in my original response I made sure I noted that others can rightly have other opinions and may have experiences to share which may effect my judgements about this area.

Banksia - Its a shame my postings provoked such a response as I did not intend to seem dismissive to your experience/opinions. Hope that's cleared that up.

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
Hi Banksia

I understand completely what you are saying but I cannot see any reason for the outburst that was posted in the thread - perhaps I read it wrong. :confused:
I cannot see where anyone was specifically attacking your point of view on this just voicing their own opinion which is really what this thread was set up for...to hear others opinions.

People can label me a fruit loop all they like, I am assured of what I have experienced if others don't accept that I cannot say I am going to loose sleep over it :)

I would hardly call what I said "an outburst" and I certainly don't lay awake at night worrying about what people think of me. Some people have to voice strong opinions on most every subject posted. I'm not not one of them.

Well as you can see the person who you quoted in your original comment has pointed out to you that they did not dismiss your experience just gave their POV.

I am really glad you don't loose sleep about it that would see you getting all mis-understood in forum where it is difficult enough to be read correctly when people are unable to see vocal colour and facial expression.

I do hope threecolours comments have put you at ease now.

Any chance of being back on topic yet?

Moon

I just read a good part of this thread, misreading the title...

I thought it said Physics - do you believe?

Ha Ha! Silly old me!

I've had too many experiences to list and they can't all be guessing. I think there are some fraudsters out there but all but one who I've seen have been excellent! Colin Fry, the best famous one by far but if you need a private reading I've seen a lady in Barnsley and she was very accurate.

SYLVIA BROWN (http://www.sylvia.org) is one VERY AUTHENTIC PSYCHIC!!!!!!

She is on every wed on Montel Williams and MAN is she good!!

Ya gotta be carefull though with these people,some are only out to SCAM PEOPLE! (The ones that charge $$$ are usually scammers and not real)

There has never been a psychic anywhere ever who has produced results any better than chance when tested. So what is there to believe in? They are likely to be a mixture of deluded well meaning folks and con artists.

Check out Jon Ronson's article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2198928,00.html)from Saturday about Sylvia Browne whose horrendous predictions have caused untold misery to many. Fancy being told your child is alive when they are dead? Or what about the other way round?

Do the psychic believers also believe that David Copperfield, and the likes, do real magic? You don't know how they do it either but it doesn't make it real does it?

Clever tricks. Enjoy the show but don't actually get fooled into thinking it is real.

There has never been a psychic anywhere ever who has produced results any better than chance when tested. So what is there to believe in? They are likely to be a mixture of deluded well meaning folks and con artists.

Check out Jon Ronson's article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2198928,00.html)from Saturday about Sylvia Browne whose horrendous predictions have caused untold misery to many. Fancy being told your child is alive when they are dead? Or what about the other way round?

Nice piece by Ronson. Still think she's a 'VERY AUTHENTIC PSYCHIC!!!'
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