Any one remember the name of the Catholic School on Burngreave Rd , it's St Caths nursing home now,i went to it in the 50s

Ummm, just a stab in the dark but how about "St Catherine's"

don't think so, too easy.

Just came to me, was called CONVENT HIGH SCHOOL.

Hi
I was Christened at St Catherines on Burngreave Road, I think the Church is still there,

Yes Nadine St Catherines Church is still there,but the Church Hall alongside was put up for sale this last week,pity that as i have attended a few wedding receptions there over the years,and i,m not catholic lol

Hi
I had to phone the church office a few years ago to get my Baptism certificate and rang at New Zealand time, which was in the middle of the night in Sheffield, I presumed an answermachine would turn on in the office, but I got the priest out of bed, it never occured to me he would answer the office phone in the middle of the night, why have they sold off the hall, will the church be going next.

my mom is now in st catherines rest home on burgreave road,that was once the school i went to, convent high school for girls, must have beem 50 years ago since i attended the school,seing it now as my moms rest home our playground is now a parking lot, but it still has the statue outside that i remember, the nuns home was next door to the school i think, our teachers would walk us there to watch the nuns make the bread for communions, that was our big treat at the awful school,i have nothing but bad memories of that convant, sister Josephine was my worse nightmare, then i moved to st Patricks at sheffield lane top, was like night and day, is St Pats still there, i'v been living in the states now for 40 years and don't get back as often as i'd like

Originally posted by poppins
is St Pats still there, i'v been living in the states now for 40 years and don't get back as often as i'd like

St Pats is still there but I don't know if any nuns still teach.

I left St Pats in '62 and then went to De La Salle. What year did you leave? Reading your posts you were probably there before me.

Two of my cousins went to the convent school, Johnsons, does it ring a bell?

ANDYMAN
I LEFT ST PATS ABOUT 1954, DONT REMEMBER THE JOHNSTONS, AFTER MY TIME, I LEFT AT 14 YEARS OLD TO START WORK, WISH I COULD REMEMBER SOME NAMES, I DO REMEMBER MY BEST PAL, MAUREEN WILD, SHE LIVED ON THE SAME STREET AS THE SCHOOL,CAME FROM A REALY BIG CATHOLIC FAMILY.

Originally posted by poppins
I DO REMEMBER MY BEST PAL, MAUREEN WILD, SHE LIVED ON THE SAME STREET AS THE SCHOOL,CAME FROM A REALY BIG CATHOLIC FAMILY.

We all did!!!!!!!

ANDYMAN
YOU MEAN YOU REMEMBER MAUREEN WILD ?

Hi Poppins & Andyman
I wonder if many people still go to the church then, if the school and the hall has gone.
The churchs in NZ have a large attendence, they are full to overflowing.
My son here in New Zealand went to a De La Salle school, it is a boys school and quite a few brothers teach there, and they have a house on the premises, but no nuns teach there,
I used to go to a doctor a Burngreave, but apart from that didnt get over there very much.

ST PATS WAS A LOVELY CHURCH, I REMEMBER ONLY ONE FAMILY DRIVING TO MASS, THEY PARKED THEIR CAR ROUND BACK ON THE GRASS, NO PARKING SPACES THEN, WE WOULD COME OUT OF THE MASS AND STARE AT THEM GETTING INTO THE CAR.

I REMEMBER I VERY SELDOM HAD MONEY FOR THE COLLECTION PLATE, I JUST USE TO PUT MY HAND IN IT AND RATTLE SOMEONE ELSES CHANGE LIKE IT WAS MY DONATION, BET I'M NOT THE ONLY KID THAT DID THAT !

DIDN'T KEEP UP MY CATHOLIC FAITH TOO LONG AFTER ARRIVING IN THE STATES, NO REASON, I SHOULD START AGAIN.

NICE TALKING TO YOU BOTH.

PS
WASN'T DE LA SALLE A SCHOOL JUST FOR BOYS, MY SISTER WENT TO NOTRA DAME, WE ALWAYS SAID THAT TURNED HER INTO A SNOB, SHE'D NEVER LET US BORROW HER UNDERWEAR AFTER GOING THEIR ? WONDER WHY?

I DID ONCE GO TO A DENTIST ON BURNGREAVE ROAD, HIM AND HIS WIFE PULLED TEETH IN THEIR HOUSE, THEY HAD TO HOLD ME DOWN THE ONE AND ONLY TIME I WENT, THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME ENOUGH GAS, I FELT THE WHOLE THING, IMAGINE A THING LIKE THAT HAPPENING NOW A DAYS.

Hi Poppins
Where was Notre Dame School?, although I am Catholic my Dad would not let me go to a Catholic school.
I was very upset, as I looked on it as my way out of Hinde House school, but my parents had seperated and my Mum was the Catholic and he held it against her.
He didnt want to pay either, and was a traditional working class Yorkshire man, he was actually quite talented with music and oil painting, but found it hard to relate to people that were higher up the scale than him, and felt school was somewhere you went, but you left as soon as you could and got a job, Hinde House was a diabolical school and luckily since leaving I have a decent job
P.S. take off your capitals, it is considered "shouting". hope you dont mind me saying, you may not know.

Notre Dame School is up Fulwood.

It is near the old hallam towers hotel building.

there was also another couple of Catholic schools, that side of sheffield; St Peters at Parson Cross, (which merged with another school- whose name I have forgotten- to become All-Saints, on Granville Road)

And on Scott Road, Pitsmoor there was the old De La Salle college. (was this the school that merged with Saint Peter's? I wonder...)

There were other catholic schools, the "private" school, "Mount Saint Mary's", just past Renishaw, and I believe there were two schools called "St John Fisher", a primary school, of that name which overlooks the hackenthorpe tram stop, and a senior school which I believe was somewhere over near Beighton/ Woodhouse. (again I can't remember the exact location).

PT

Originally posted by Plain Talker
and a senior school which I believe was somewhere over near Beighton/ Woodhouse. (again I can't remember the exact location). PT

The senior school St John Fisher, was at Handsworth on Beaver Hill Road, past Beaver Hill School as you go down the hill towards Woodhouse. Its been closed for many years, but the buildings are still there and are now home to South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Training centre.

Hi Poppins

I went to St Vincents and then Notre Dameand the name Maureen Wild seems very familiar. Was she a little older than you. My brother went to De La Salle which was run by the christian brithers.
Notre Dame was behind the Glossop Rd baths in Cavendish St by the side of Convent Walk. and was just for girls. scholarship girls iff u came off the council estate, the other part was at Fulwood and is still there now as a comprehensive school.
Hazel

Originally posted by mega_monty
The senior school St John Fisher, was at Handsworth on Beaver Hill Road, past Beaver Hill School as you go down the hill towards Woodhouse. Its been closed for many years, but the buildings are still there and are now home to South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Training centre.

Ah! (she says brightly!) Thank you!

I Knew it was somewhere around that area! :D I was not so far out, in my estimation!

I didn't realise that the Fire and Rescue were using the school as offices! wow!

It was more than a bit confusing, having two schools with the same name.

And yes of course! Notre Dame School had a site by Glossop Road baths! There was Convent Walk, running behind the Baths, pointing a very big sign post towards that one!!

Does anyone happen to know which school it was, which joined with St Peters to form "All Saints" school? I remember my friend going to St Peters, until around 1982, (and she was one of the last ones to actually leave from that school before it merged and went to the Granville road site)

PT

Originally posted by Plain Talker
Ah! (she says brightly!) Thank you!
I Knew it was somewhere around that area! :D I was not so far out, in my estimation!

I didn't realise that the Fire and Rescue were using the school as offices! wow!

PT heres a link showing you the SY fire training centre (ex St John Fisher) note on top RH corner theres a pic of what used to be St John Fishers.

www.syfire.org.uk/Internet/SYork/SYFRS.nsf/0/FEC9F4F06A1AA12780256C680042507A?OpenDocument

and a bit more on what they teach there

www.syfire.org.uk/Internet/SYork/SYFRS.nsf/0/8A816FD8DFE62D2580256C91005B7673?OpenDocument

Hazel
You didnt come from Wincobank originally did you?
I lived next door to a Hazel that went to a local catholic school

Hi Nsiebert & Hazel
Sorry about the CAPS,i know just what you mean ,just easier for me, my English (writing) never has been too good, spellling either, but thanks for the reminder.

i'v never heard of Hinde House, or All Saints, The Convant High School was just for girls, we didn't pay, i think our church somehow got us in after my father died.

don't know how my older sister got into Notra Dame either.

Maureen Wild was older than me as i remember she left school before me got married and had a baby, i was still in shcool or had just left,i know she married very young.

All i know is that the Convant was a very stricked school, it did me no good,but i suppose no harm either.

Hi Pippin
I think Maureen Wild was in the same yr as me at school poppins, cos I'm older than you.
We council estate children had to pass a scholarship to get there because in my yr quite a few of the children were "paid for" I think the Convent Hgh school was the same.

Don't think the nuns knew what hit them when all these scruffy kids descended on them. But they were unfailingly kind, puzzled but kind.
Sorry Nsiebert I came from Arbouthorne originally.
You were fortune not to go to De La Salle, my brother went there and they were downright cruel to the boys who.s parents had no money or prestige, this as in the 50's. It may have altered after that time
Not sure what Andyman meant !!!
Hazel

Hi Hazel
The nuns at the Convent were also cruel to us "Freebies"
they knew who had money and who didn't, some girls were snobs too, i remember one girl said to me, Why does your Mom give you bread and jam sandwiches every day "? is that all you have in your house ? Hazel i was so saddened by that remark,i felt so sorry for my Mom i never told her.

My Dad was a bookie back then, the head nun asked me if my Dad went to church on Sunday, i said no, he has his bets to do, well you'd have thought i was talking about the devil, she sent a note home and told Mom to come right to the school, my Mom thought it was dead funny and told every body about it, she had better things to do to worry about what the nuns thought, we didn't stay too many more years in that school, Mom took me out and thats when i went to St Pats, it was like i died and went to Heaven in there.

Hi Poppins & Hazel
Sounds like the schools were tough, but believe me so was Hinde House school, I think maybe though in different ways,
I went through nearly the whole of my Secondary education without doing any homework, the kids were tough and I know what you mean about comments, my parents had seperated and I lived with my dad and in those days that was very unusual and kids made cruel remarks to me also.

Can anyone tell me how I get out of this to go back to my email, I have the full screen on my computer and cannot get out, even after logging out

Sorry Nadine
Cannot help you, this is all a bit new to me, we'v just had the pc a few months, i only know the basic stuff, hope someone can help you get back to your e mail.

Hi Poppins
When I post a reply, I get the full screen and even though I logout I cannot get out, I have to control/alt/delete, and close programme.
How long have you been overseas? I have not been back to Sheffield since coming here, I had a Saturday job at school in the indoor market, I sold mens trousers and coats etc, is that market still there?

Hi Nadine
Cannot help with your p/c stuff, quite new at this, i'm sure someone can help.

I'v been in the states about 40 years, my first job out of school was at WH Smiths near Pond Street then, yes the indoor markets still there, much different though now, more than one floor, you can still gets some nice bits of china ware, thats all i'm interested in when i go back home.

Also the english breakfast's my sisters cook, i go back to see my 97 year old mom, i'm part retired myself so i can get back often.

Nice talking to you.

Nadine
Just realised what you ment about a full scree when you reply, yes i do too, thought that was normal ? after i get it i have to X it out, go into my favorites again click onto this forum to bring it up ? like i have to start all over again once i'v done a reply.

I searched the whole topic, but didn't find anyone I knew.
De La Salle Colledge has an old boys website. My sister who is ex Notre Dame pointed it out to me.
I did find a few names there that I remembered.
True about the treatment of less "well off" pupils. "Beat them and B-gger them" I have heard said about their teaching ethic.
I was certainly well beaten, and there were a few dodgy characters on the teaching staff.
I was glad of my upbringing on the Arbourthorne and Manor, I had an instinct for dodgy characters - and the ability to meter out my own justice to the snobs.
I read some of the comments on the La Salle site. and have too much dignity to add my own.
I am certainly not surprised by the "Child Abuse" accusations being made against the church - - - Both male and Female.
Sister Lucy in the primary St Vincents RC. - - - was a terrifying figure to a five - six year old boy, and once - School procession - I was carrying a staff with flowers on top. Too heavy for me, and when dipping it to enter the church doors, I knocked her Wimple off. I was the first to do the four minute mile - - all the way down Solly Street:help: :help:
Cheers

The school in Burngreave is/was called Pyebank Roman Cath School, it was on Andover Street?!

Wasn't it Convent High School - my friend used to go there

There was a private Convent School called Miknhurst but I'm not sure where it was.
Hazel

Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
The school in Burngreave is/was called Pyebank Roman Cath School, it was on Andover Street?!

There were two schools on Andover Street as I recall.

I believe one was Pye Bank Trinity Cof E school, which dealt with the juniors, which is (was?) on the section between Spital Hill and Rock Street ,and there was Pye Bank School, at the very top of Andover Street, which, when my lad was young, housed the infants school.

PT

Originally posted by canadagal
Wasn't it Convent High School - my friend used to go there

Yes it was Just called Convent Hight School for Girls, it was right on Burngreave road itself, now it's a nursing home called St Cathrines Rest Home, owned by a Jim Kelly, i was there not long ago, the play grounds now a parking lot, and other changes made of course, but they kept the Grotto in the same place outside, it was a strange feeling to go back again, my sister and i went there, was awful, later i went to St Patricks school.

there was St.Catherines school on Andover Street.( I was a pupil there) It was an infants and junior school. It was pulled down to make way for the maisonettes that are there now, and relocated up Burngreave Road and is still there as far as I know.

The school on Burngreave Road was the Convent School, run by the Sisters of Mercy, the same order that had/has (?) the Mylnhurst Convent School at Millhouses.

I went to the other Catholic School in Pitsmoor: St. Catherine's, which used to be on Andover Street and is now (since the 70s) on Firshill Crescent. There also used to be SoM nuns there, the last being Sr. Thomas, who was headmistress until 1982 (or thereabouts). St Caths was the sworn enemy of Roe Wood and Firshill primary schools, who thought we were posh because we wore uniforms. But the kids at St Caths were just as working class as anyone else, their mums just had Irish or Polish accents, instead of Pakistani ones *lol*. The biggest enemy was St Pat's though - those footy matches were for us 8 year olds worse than England vs. Germany.

The church is still there, and the church hall has now been sold to the guy who bought the old borstal next door. Will be redeveloped for apartments (that's flats to you and me).
It was sold because it was too expensive to run and the church could make a buck from property prices. A new church hall /function room will be built behind the large priest's house on Melrose Road.

A few of you had written something about the RC High Schools.

Notre Dame was for girls and had two sites, the lower school on Cavendish Street and the Upper School at Fulwood. Only the Fulwood Site is still open.

All Saints is the other school. It was a merger of De La Salle boys (Scott Road) with St Paul's Secondary Modern on Granville Road. After a while of having Upper and Lower schools, the school has been at Granville Road since the early 80s.

St John Fisher and St Peters (in Ecclesfield) were the other RC secondary schools. Both closed down in the 70s and 80s, with the pupils being given the choice of All Saints or Notre Dame. I was in the second year at All Saints and remember the St Peter's lot arriving.

let's clear a few things up here....

The school that is now St Catherines Nursing Home was called Burngreave Convent School, it closed in approx 1981 and was run by the Sisters of Mercy.

De La Salle College closed well before then.

Notre Dame used to be a girls school but while still as a split school site on Cavendish Street and at Oakbrook took both girls and boys.

St Peters as a school closed in approx 1983/4 some pupils went to All Saints and some went to Notre Dame

Mylnhurst Convent school used to be run by convent sisters but isn't anymore.

St Peter's closed down in 1985. In 1984 announced it was closing so the following year 85 they didn't admit anymore pupils and all the kids stating their 4th year were moved so it only left 2nd & 3rd years and a 5th year, of which I was one. I have checked friends reunited and for some reason several people have put down their year of leaving as 86/87/88/89/90 which I find strange as it was shut.

Quite a few of our teachers went to All Saints or Notre Dame when the school finally closed.

The senior school St John Fisher, was at Handsworth on Beaver Hill Road, past Beaver Hill School as you go down the hill towards Woodhouse. Its been closed for many years, but the buildings are still there and are now home to South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Training centre.

i went to st john fisher comp left in 76

It was the De La Salle order that taught at De la Salle, and not the Christian brothers- the sisters of Notre Dame (Our lady) founded and taught at the school of the same name. That makes a certain kind of sense.
My ex was a former pupil of St Peter's, I'm not aware that it merged- just closed down- but I could be wrong.
It certainly didn't merge with de la Salle, which was an all boys school and a fee paying grammer school, which also just closed down.

It was the De La Salle order that taught at De la Salle, and not the Christian brothers- the sisters of Notre Dame (Our lady) founded and taught at the school of the same name. That makes a certain kind of sense.
My ex was a former pupil of St Peter's, I'm not aware that it merged- just closed down- but I could be wrong.
It certainly didn't merge with de la Salle, which was an all boys school and a fee paying grammer school, which also just closed down.
The De La Salle brothers were an order of Christian brothers founded by Saint John Baptist De La Salle. I attended the school from 1965 to 1971 and did not pay a fee. There were very few fee-paying pupils at that time.

^John, my dad was probably in your year. I guess you were born in 1954 as your name says, so my dad would have gone to De La Salle the same years as you. He's not here right now for me to ask him exactly when he went there, but I presume it'll have been from 1965 to 1971 like you. He's called Andy (well, he'd have probably been called Andrew at school) Cotton...do you remember him at all?

^John, my dad was probably in your year. I guess you were born in 1954 as your name says, so my dad would have gone to De La Salle the same years as you. He's not here right now for me to ask him exactly when he went there, but I presume it'll have been from 1965 to 1971 like you. He's called Andy (well, he'd have probably been called Andrew at school) Cotton...do you remember him at all?
I can't place him yet but I'm still racking my brain!

All Saints on Granville Road was called St Paul's. it changed its name to All Saints around 1977, not sure if that was the year but it was called St Paul's before I started in 1978. and when I started it had already changed its name to All Saints.

It was called The Convent High School for Girls.I went there.It was miserable, dark, cold, and we had to pray a lot. !!:(

i was at the old st caths school was a great school and nice teachers and not so bad nuns lol.

My old Alma Mater being Burngreave Secondary Modern, I remember the Catholic School in Burngreave Road quite well. We used to see the Nuns hurrying around the church at the end of Melrose Road, big leather belts, pale faces, but rosy cheeked, dangerous looking I used to think. But my point is, did you have to be Catholic to go to the school?
I knew a couple of girls, in my younger days, who went there and they weren't Catholic.

it was same for catholic grammer school they had what was known as paying pupils if you remember delle salle school on scot road they had jewish lads there

So what you're saying is that if the family could afford it, they could send their kids there.
I never knew that. I'm surprised really, because the people I knew didn't seem all that well off.

let's clear a few things up here....

The school that is now St Catherines Nursing Home was called Burngreave Convent School, it closed in approx 1981 and was run by the Sisters of Mercy.

De La Salle College closed well before then.

Notre Dame used to be a girls school but while still as a split school site on Cavendish Street and at Oakbrook took both girls and boys.

St Peters as a school closed in approx 1983/4 some pupils went to All Saints and some went to Notre Dame

Mylnhurst Convent school used to be run by convent sisters but isn't anymore.

And the school Grotto is still on the grounds, I went to that school, it was horrid, my Mom died in the nursing home there a couple of years ago.

How do you rate the education you recieved there popps?

How do you rate the education you recieved there popps?

Awful, the nuns were just interested in drilling religion into your head, telling you would never get into heaven if you forgot to say your prayers before going to sleep at night, it was "The school from hell" , as far a being taught any sort of regular education, I can't remember any :confused:

I can understand the bit about the religious side of things, but I always thought of Catholic schools being superior in the pursuit of high standards for their pupils. I'm thinking of Jesuit colleges etc;etc.

I can't place him yet but I'm still racking my brain!
I was at De La Salle from sept 66 to Jul 73, so guess I started a year later than you.
The way I got in was passing 11+: I was the only one from my junior school , so I made new friends from other schools. I really enjoyed my time there, but preferred playing to working hard! There were some strict teachers, but also discipline lapsed when Brother Vincent left and Br. Wilfred took over, I think in '67. There was also Br.Gabriel who ran the X country team that I was in..all I'll say is that he made sure we all had showers after running!

The senior school St John Fisher, was at Handsworth on Beaver Hill Road, past Beaver Hill School as you go down the hill towards Woodhouse. Its been closed for many years, but the buildings are still there and are now home to South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Training centre.

i used to go to that school and st caths before that but then st caths was on andover street. mucky old thing lol

All Saints on Granville Road was called St Paul's. it changed its name to All Saints around 1977, not sure if that was the year but it was called St Paul's before I started in 1978. and when I started it had already changed its name to All Saints.

thats cos it merged with st peters and so became all saints

Hi I went to St Catherines RC Junior atPye Bank and then on Roe Lane, until 1974. Then I went to St John Fishers on Beaverhill Road, Woodhouse, Sheffield. [left 1980]. I was one of the first and most probably the last to be in the sixth form when it was first introduced at St John Fishers. I am now in full time employment at a Citizens Advice Bureau in Sheffield.

My best friend at school was Cynthia!

thats cos it merged with st peters and so became all saints


Not quite,

All Saints was formed from the mergers of St Paul's and De le Salle.

There is a large glass plate in the school reception with the crests of the merged schools and the new 'All Saints' crest.

Although slightly off subject, but whilst I've got your attention:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=475425

Thanks

i was at the old st caths school was a great school and nice teachers and not so bad nuns lol.

When to st Cath's myself,left in 1968.